But if the state dosent drop the salt how will all the i can fend for myself people get out too bring home dinner. Heaven forbid you have a few days supply at home!! 🤣
Like Eric said, the People’s Republic of New York. We lost 2 seats in the House in the last census. Instead of thousands of new laws, they should just let us know what we can do. People and businesses are voting with their feet. NYC is in the toilet with crime and homeless, but you can get a $1,000 fine and 30 days for your muffler. Someday, the politicians are going to run out of other peoples money.
Not while corporations lobbying is still a thing. The government also gives an average roi of 700% back to these corps that lobby them in government subsidies. They are literally exchanging elections for money
They just passed a similar Law over here in France ... no restrictions on manufacturers or shops ... all down to "who owns the vehicle" AND they're enforcing it with "Noise Level Cameras" (fixed/82db max), that sends the ticket to your registration address ... just installed one in Nice last week (heard about it during our local Classic Car Show last Sunday ... poor guy just finished a 3 year restoration of his 1980 Vette with a 454 running headers/side pipes ... VERY loud and he was like a Deer in the headlights !!!) Gotta love "Big Brother" eh?
better yet...30 Days for this, but a guy can go rob somebody, or steal their car, or the like and they just walk out of jail because "bail is racist and preys on the poor"...so...yea, NY got that going for them too...
@@woodstream6137 Sounds like Commifornia. Had a friend out there get "sited" for not having his lawn "properly manicured, and of proper color". He also got a ticket for using "gas powered lawn equipment"...HORRORS.
As NY continues to focus on the really, really important issues of the modern era, the state slowly but surely empties. There have been "inadequate exhaust" regulations for my entire life. They have rarely been enforced, and I don't see this changing the game. Meanwhile, the education system fails and the politicians get richer.
The "education" system is not failing. It is doing EXACTLY what it was designed to do. Keep people real stupid while indoctrinating them to so thoroughly believe absolutely ridiculous lies about their reality to the point that no amount of telling them the truth will change their mind.
Yet they refuse to enforce violent and sexual crime creating more victims of said crime. Love our beautiful and diverse state but hate our super corrupt government
Yes, that is because people Parent of babies at home are getting tired of hearing this, also having to pay every month twice a false Alarm bill to the city, because these very loud no pipes car passed my home with super loud popping fire exhaust. Also, the loud noise is waking up our babies being startled by the crazy loud noise. The False Alarm Bills are expensive. And scaring our babies while they are napping is just wrong...
@@Penske_Logistics_Roseburg-Ore That's a good case for charging the offenders with existing laws. Sounds like a police problem not a legislature problem.
@@alansmith4734 What good would harshening do? Do you believe it would deter a person from steeling them? What are they now? What should they be moved up to? How do they compare to other property theft? Or are you just calling for a change to a law as a reaction without really understanding..... this seems familiar.
Come down here to Texas Eric! Bring the family with you. The laws are generally more conducive to small businesses actually making a little money and the vehicles can actually make it to 300k miles and still have a frame! Who knew? 😁🤣🤣
Yeah, that's all fine and good if you can stand the bigotry and racially-motivated discrimination (don't say it doesn't happen, because if you gave me a week and $100 to do some research you can bet I'd turn up a bunch of cases of exactly that). At least it ain't Florida, where now you get put in jail for not lying about yourself if you're "certain kinds of people".
@@Cheepchipsable Sort of yes, but actually no. Salt is NOT Eric O's business partner, because the books only give you so many hours to get a job done. You don't make any more money if it takes longer. And salt makes taking the vehicle apart take longer (and generally more destructive as well). In other words, it just hurts the bottom line. And sometimes you can't even do a job because the vehicle's too far gone (critical parts of the body, frame, or sub-frame rusted into Swiss cheese as thin as tinfoil instead of the strong thick metal it needs to be).
So to add ,if the state is concerned about noise pollution seems to me they should also be concerned with loud guns and should recommend mufflers to quiet 🤫 them.
Thanks for the update! I don’t operate in New York but I have family that lives up there. I am in the not so great state of Indiana where as we speak they’re try to pass a law where in order to do anything with a catalytic converter you have to be registered with the secretary of states office.. ugh!!
Actual criminals don't get locked up, but you mess with your vehicles OEM equipment you will probably get locked up with other like minded reprehensible offenders.
What I find interesting about the letter is that they eliminated the phrase "Or use" which makes me think there is a "grandfather" effect? So, we can't sell, install or otherwise but feel free to use the hell out of them if you have them already!!??!!! Welcome to the Vampire State!!! Leave your hard earned dollars, sanity and basic civil freedoms at the door, please!
California has had that same law for decades! Harley sells the exhaust but won't install it. We have 2 laws. Defective muffler, which is a fix-it and Modified Exhaust which is a fine and fix-it. Did you know? We also have a Law which is "Failure to correct after notification by a Police Officer". This is a fine and a point on your record for failing to comply.
I live in NY and have driven around without mufflers after they've fallen off of my old cars. One got torn off in a giant pothole. I got pulled over twice with two different cars. As long as I had them fixed within 72 hours, I just went to the police station with the ticket and receipt and they would throw it out.
California probably wrote the law because of me. In the 80s my GTO was big block powered high compression . Sprint car cam grind with massive headers and turbo mufflers bolted directly to the collector adapters. I let a friend drive the GTO to the parts store 4 miles away. I heard every shift. My friend did have a huge smile on his face wed when he came back
California has always had failure to appear, as well. Get a $5 jaywalking ticket, fail to appear in court, $200 fine and a bench warrant (40 years ago). I learned very quickly that California does not care if you break the law, but you damn well better do what they tell you, when they tell you, and how they tell you. They do not tolerate disobedience.
I agree with that when it comes to the cars that... pop pop POP on decel... like there's a drive-by shooting. Here in Philly, they started putting up cameras with noise detection in an attempt to curb that new exhaust fad. Idk if they've been activated yet.. but I know these systems are getting installed. I think to also curb the boom boom thump from music, which I agree with also, at least in the night hrs.
Gave me an idea - next time I pass a NY trooper I'll have a trombone in the vehicle. We'll go by playing exhaust sounds, HAHAHA! BRRRRRRRRT, BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT!! 😁
fortunately or unfortunately Tesla is bar none, the most hipster doofus car of the last decade. Making a slow 180 degree turn to embarrassing to own rather than when they were cool. I'm not saying Electric cars aren't the future or Tesla is going out of business tomorrow or anything like that, before a fanboy gets all menstrual and taps my tail light.
It's a wonderful law that won't stand up to basic good lawyering. Aside from a maximum sound level established by the state, there are no specific noise levels set or distributed by car companies at the time of sale. As such, it would be impossible to replace a muffler even with a OEM replacement and be sure that it is exactly the same sound level or lower. Further, if an exhaust system is "50 state legal", passes emissions, and does not exceed the statutory maximum sound level for a motor vehicle, it would be in compliance with federal motor standards. Setting a more stringent sound level law without first establishing methods by which it would be checked, mandating that car companies disclose exact sound levels as per that specific test, and without allowing for variation from part to part the state fails to allow for real world application of such a law. Basically, they will get laughed out of court. By the law as it stands, nobody (not even a dealer) could risk replacing an exhaust system for fear that it would be 0.0001% louder and thus in violation of the law as written. Politicians are morons.
Just another way for a cop on a bad day to have "just cause" to pull you and see what other violations they can cite, one of them will stick and you'll have to pay the fines and court cost and generate that revenue, which let's be real is what this type of silly laws are actually for.
Here in Ontario they announced that they will be cracking down on loud aftermarket exhaust. They have trained a certain percentage of the police force with the use of decibel meters to enforce this. This is a worldwide enactment of lockstep laws in the war against petroleum vehicles.
So you are upset that a man that commited a hate crime is in jail charged with a hate crime, and when I go to your youtube about page you are calling for a racist to be put back on youtube. The woman you mentioned was attacked because of increasing hostility towards Asians but you want someone to be able to spread more of it? It seems like you are complaining about this for a different reason.
Meanwhile here in CA you can walk out of a store with $1000.00 of merchandise and only get a ticket. Rite Aid has closed a bunch of stores in SF. Food Max closed in our town due to the losses. Who has time to worry about a muffler?
Trust me, I've been more annoyed and heard more deafening sound from car audio speakers and subwoofers than any muffler on the market. In fact, these sound systems often outdo open exhaust with no muffler(s).
It's pretty simple: Step 1 - Make lots of money. Step 2 - Don't do ANYTHING that puts you on the wrong side of the law. Example - keep your damn car or motorcycle STOCK. Step 3 - Keep a law firm on retainer, because they will make a law that you will be in violation of, sooner or later.
"Wacking off your muffler" sounded like...innuendo. 😁We don't inspect cars anymore or have much rust where I live. We do however, have huge tornadoes. You could always move. Scotty packed it up and moved to Tennessee and he fixes them cars right in the driveway and doesn't even own a lift. 😁😁
Yep, same in the Province of Ontario and yet there are Harley's rumbling all over the place annoying everyone. Some towns now have noise by-laws so they can ticket them locally. 🤔
Eric, I love your channel, and I appreciate your passion, and understand your frustration. The original INTENT of this law change was to try to put and end to kids with tuner cars that have exhaust pops and burbles that sounds like gunshots. In rural areas of NY like Avoca, this is probably far more uncommon compared to Queens, which is really annoying. People in the 5 boros are more likely to work all hours, so hearing while trying to sleep (during the day) is very disruptive, hence the bill was written. Since lawmakers in NY assembly are by and large not car people, they don't understand that those sounds are mainly due to tuning, rather than exhaust components themselves (I might be wrong here - full disclosure!). In reality, we know that enforcement of this law will be extremely selective and primarily target tuner cars and shops.
Tuning doesn't make a louder car, just exhaust systems. The problem with this law is that it gives police the ability to pull over anyone with a loud exhaust. Like we need police to waste tax payers money to drive around and give tickets. High flow mufflers are louder but also offer better MPG as well as performance. Why you think people put them on their cars? They are also generally stainless steel since the NY roads are so salty and cause the OEM exhaust system to rot out. These aftermarket systems are also generally cheaper than OEM. Far as I'm concerned this is a tax on the poor. A law created from a bunch of people who can afford to drive Tesla's.
@@DukenukemX But it can, when you change the exhaust cam timing. I have an Audi S4. It is stage 2 FBO fully tuned ECU and TCU. It can go pop pop pop OR wait for it.... close the exhaust valves and it shuts up. I speak for myself here. I am not an a-hole. I don't poop where I eat. In any residential neighborhood I shut the car up. Because I myself can't stand people who don't respect another's home. So it is the people who have no self control (as always) the ruin it for everyone else.
@@GOOGLM3_NY I understand but a lot of the things that make cars quiet are also ruining mpg and hp. Mufflers are one example, but intake resonators also do this as the back pressure of the air intake will make a roaring noise, so manufacturers put in resonators which act like mufflers. This is mostly so the driver doesn't hear it, not the neighborhood, but the same principal applies here too. My Corvette is quiet on purpose because I don't want to hear the car loud myself, and get pulled over from police. Car is red too, so I'm basically a cop magnet. I have aftermarket long tube headers but a stock style muffler. It did get louder but not so much to annoy the neighborhood, but if I want to maximize my performance then the mufflers have to be replaced with louder free flowing ones.
How about the 3rd brake light law? Yeah, that's really helped, too . Oh, aside from the idiots that allow all the other brake lights to burn out except the 3rd brake light.
Land of the Free? There's not even any inspection laws up north here, although there are new city bylaws about the loudness of exhausts, specifically to target the super loud motorbikes that can be heard screaming a mile away
So does this mean that you have to use the OEM factory exhaust on every exhaust replacement job? OR, are the manufacturers going to publish the noise levels of all their vehicles so that mechanics can make sure that any repair meets or exceeds the factory noise specification? Ridiculous. They need to set a db level and enforce that.
The OEM ratings are part of the EPA Noise Pollution Control Act at the Federal Level. That rating is "recognized" as the OEM rating for new vehicles sold under the ACT since the OEM can not Exceed that noise level.
They have always had a dB level. Section 386 of the Vehicle & Traffic law. Vehicles under 10,000 lbs 35 mph or less 86 dB(A) 35mph or more 90 dB(A). Motorcycles 35 miles per hour or less 82 dB(A) over 35 mph 86 dB(A).
I am divided on this subject. On one hand I absolutely hate those loud exhausts from straight piping or installing those fart can exhausts. One the other hand I am uncomfortable with the heavy hand of government sanctioned violence used to tell people what to do with their vehicles and some exhaust systems really enhance the sound while being marginally louder than stock. The law is a unforgiving and I flexible thing. I would be more comfortable if they simply defined a maximum volume at a defined distance than the more relative stock volume standard.
I agree. This seems a bit heavy handed but loud exhausts are getting out of control from mid life crisis Harleys to pimped out diesel pickups to your average modified Mustang. Your neighbor with his loud exhaust can wake hundreds of sleeping babies and adults just driving to work early in the morning. This law will also be tricky to enforce without specifying sound pressure levels and a consistent method for measuring. Not many cops are going to try to crawl under a car for a look and might not be able to tell what they’re looking at even if they do. But they can at least go after the obviously really loud vehicles which are the worst offenders. But obviously if shops are installing illegal exhausts that’s easier to enforce.
Government is for the people and by the people. These things just dont come out of government.. They originate from the folks and remedied by the government. Nobody really likes loud obtrusive popping and roaring down peaceful serene areas. If you do you would be in the minority. Good law in my view.. Lots of engineering goes into keeping motors quiet.. Why not use it.
Most states have had these laws for a long time.Also illegal to up your rim size more than 2 inches from factory.Loud exhaust and illegal aftermarket has been around in most states requiring inspection for a long time.Pretty much as long as your vehicle is not annoyingly loud you're okay....until you try to get an inspection sticker.
@@MeltingRubberZ28 Yeah every other mirror cycle, JDM 4-banger, and Pickup truck that isn’t some leased rent-a-car has a muffler delete or aftermarket exhuast equipment installed on it. Most cops don’t care unless it’s extremely loud. This law will only make getting inspections done on those vehicles tougher. Expect to see more fake inspection tags LOL.
You go to jail in New York for changing a muffler from stock but you can loot a store, commit assault,use drugs in public and they let you go. Sounds like a great state
@@Cheepchipsable Unless someone there had it out for you, has a money making interest in your business closure or property. Selective enforcement and prosecution for corrupt reasons happens when the means are put in place.
My muffler got ripped off when I was unable to avoid a huge pot hole in the road !!!! Is the state going to pay for the damage and a new one since their neglect caused it to get torn off ???????????? 🥵😵😵💫😖😩😡🤬
Great law! Some guy in a Honda car drives by my house disturbing my tranquil rural environment. Sounds like The Jolly Green Giant Farting. Drives me nuts. Semis go by here an I don't even notice them.
Since the new mufflelators cannot allow the sound of the motor to be louder than the original factory equipment, this means the state has to measure the loudness of the factory motors with a calibrated loudness meter of every past and present motor in the state, to verify that a new mufflelator is in compliance (or not) with the new law. Good luck with that NY.
There are already laws regulating sound level limits as part of both FMVSS and state laws - in the case of NY it's max 82db per Section 386 Motor Vehicle Sound LImits in the Vehicle & Traffic Law.
More likely if Johnny Law hears you getting on the loud pedal and you've modified your exhaust or "rolling coal", they now have cause to pull you over.
Here in Colorado, we’ve had a noise regulation since 1982. The max limit is 82db. I don’t know what the penalties are for breaking that, but there are penalties. It just isn’t well enforced. Some states have had similar laws all the way back to 1973 so they’re not uncommon. Sounds like NY is just stepping up the enforcement level about a hundred fold.
Unfortunately, just like tinted windows, they are putting the burden of responsibility to "police" these things on the Inspections stations. Price is still $21 for a NYSI. So, not accounting for time it takes to perform one, add that liability exposure to the aprox $8- $10 "profit" we make on them.
It's stupid and unenforceable like the magazine capacity restrictions. It's just there to make people believe the government is doing something while not really doing anything.
This is what happens when you vote in very old people. Reminds me of my mom with my radio one click from off, " turn it down, does it have to be so loud"?
When the driving lights on when it's raining law first came out I forgot to do just that and passed a state trooper going the other way. Man, he spun that cruiser around so fast my head spun. He thought he hit the lottery as I had an older pickup truck that was rusted pretty good. But, unbeknownst to him, I had a business and kept the truck maintenance and safety inspection requirements up to snuff. He was actually pissed that all he could do is write a ticket for the headlights which ended up as a $15 fine. 😁😄😅😂😋
@@annyer262 Yeah, and they walk around out of the car without the Stetson on! Or talking in the cell phone! Drives me nuts! I've been retired 13 years and I was a dinosaur when I left. By your handle I take it you're a Northern NYer? I'm up near Ogdensburg.
I live in NY. I went and found this new law and read it. The new provisions - and elimination of old ones - move the enforcement and penalties from end users to businesses and shops like SMA. Typical New York.
Nice place to visit but that would not want to live there I really don't understand how you people in New York deal with such crap we're from the Live Free or Die State of New Hampshire we don't have to deal with half the crap you people do down there
Only the people of NY Can change this mess, stop electing IDIOT TYRANTS. If they get outta Line smack em up side of their head like Will Smith did to Chris Rock.
@@bigbobno11 I think that it would ruin your visit wondering if you were doing anything to draw attention to your out of state status and become a eye score for the local cops
@@bigbobno11 I love NH but be careful what you wish for , Shaheen and her husband along with the moonbats crossing the border are working overtime to make nh mass communist lite. I am in mass on the border and just tried to have a certain vape juice that I can't get locally in nh shops sent to my brother in laws house who lives in NH and it said they can't even ship to nh anymore because a bunch of states passed a law to not allow shipping vape products and nh joined in. Very annoying. Good luck
@@walterk1221 so far I'm not seeing a update to the inspection regulations that included muffler/exhaust noise regulation. I think this is just traffic law for now. But it could change like tint did. Edit It appears it is part of the motorcycle inspection process
When you first go to get the vehicle inspected, assuming you moved to New York, You will not pass inspection until exhaust is returned to factory decibel level.
@@gpadog That's assuming they kept records for what the factory exhaust noise level is in the first place! And because the state would have to actually do something in order to record said stock noise levels, per vehicle, for LITERALLY EVERY KIND OF VEHICLE EVER MADE, INCLUDING MODIFICATIONS OFFERED BY THE AUTOMAKER, you get exactly one result from all this legalese. Absolutely nothing changed WRT what actually gets you in trouble, just that now instead of the person getting fined, they fine the shop that let it pass inspection. Great. Make more people unemployed for "stupid shit" reasons. That's just what we need.
This probably has a lot to do with NYC, were you must also have "city" horns. The city is already loud enough without adding more noise. We have, I assume, Harley riders here in Wisconsin, riding around with exhausts so loud you can't hear anything but them when they're near you on the street. And that means emergency vehicles as well as the radio.
The city horn law was repealed a long time ago. It was in effect in 1974, the same year they came out with cars that would not start if you didn't fasten your seat belt. Fortunately that was easily bypassed by disconnecting the seat sensor connector.
Honestly I truly hate when the rice burners cut off the muffler, sounds like crap! I love a rumble of a good V8 , but a 4 banger 🙄those people need to be fined and jailed
Too true. Here in the uk gas is too expensive for the local teens to be able to run a large capacity engine, so old codgers like me have to listen to their wheezy 4 pots with straight through exhausts all weekend. Highly irritating.
They did that in Australia, I am not sure if it is every State & Territory or just mine. It is sad, the rumble of a V8 is as Australian as meat pies. It should be an offence to bring in stupid laws! It should be an offence to suggest stupid laws! It should be n offence to bring in laws for the minority! It should be an offence to be a greenie!!!
I've got a neighbor across the street whose kid likes to have "Vroom, Vroom" cars. In the past he's had 4 bangers with coffee can mufflers. Two weeks ago he got a Dodge Charger with what sounds like a V-8. Wish I knew where he gets the money because he's a little off in the head and once worked collecting carts at Walmart. "A very important job..." he said.
I had a neighbor kid who did the same thing. He also had sport bikes. He would sit in a lawn chair in the driveway, next to the bike, and redline the shit out of it all day long.
This kind of law is in Australia too - The police use it to impound the 1% gangs around here. You'll see 10-15 bikes in a ride all get corralled and impounded for being too loud. The cops do it when the club ride is way out in the middle of nowhere...
You guys should understand-- if you get screwed like this and can't drive your car anymore-- Just get a friend with a trailer to drag it to a neighboring state and sell it.. Because here in Oklahoma-- we don't have inspections, so we can get away with all these "mods" without issue, typically.
Can you fine the state when your muffler falls off from the massive amount of salt they put on the roads?
Good one Wes!
Or for the "State Owned' equipment that is distributing that salt that have nothing past the header flanges for an exhaust.
Excellent point Wes!!!
That's one of things that amazes me about the south. People actually pay a shop to make their pickup truck sound like the exhaust has rusted off!
But if the state dosent drop the salt how will all the i can fend for myself people get out too bring home dinner. Heaven forbid you have a few days supply at home!! 🤣
No problem. That opens a "booming" market for high power audio systems to allow you to choose which jet engine your vehicle will sound like.
Let's be real, Clive. You know the most popular sounds would be farts. All kinds of farts.
What a real odd channel to be seen on here haha
We'll take care of that next year No aftermarket radios allowed, that may exceed what was originally installed
You tell them Big Clive. I think we should vote Big Clive into office so he can reverse that law.
Now this is an idea I like.
Always remember folks, you deserve the government you voted for. So next time when you are voting, think before you vote!
As if voting makes any difference.
@@TheBenjammin Just vote harder as you're being demographically replaced, it will totally work!
Also remember if you keep it within moderation and not harm your fellow man, there would be no need for so many laws telling you how not to be a dick.
I want Volodymyr Zelensky as my president. His balls are bigger than Hillary's.
You only get one vote. You can't vote any harder than that. You're blaming the powerless, lol.
As a fellow shop owner here in New Yorkistan, I received this today as well. The good ole' cesspool of NYC and their legislative brilliance....
BLAH BLAH BLAH...
Throw that in the garbage...and roll on same as always.
Thank you for covering this. This legislation is absolutely terrible. Yet another law that was meant for NYC and kicks the rest of the state.
Like Eric said, the People’s Republic of New York. We lost 2 seats in the House in the last census. Instead of thousands of new laws, they should just let us know what we can do. People and businesses are voting with their feet. NYC is in the toilet with crime and homeless, but you can get a $1,000 fine and 30 days for your muffler. Someday, the politicians are going to run out of other peoples money.
Not while corporations lobbying is still a thing. The government also gives an average roi of 700% back to these corps that lobby them in government subsidies. They are literally exchanging elections for money
Very happy to see this enforced. Pass this all over America
Fitting comment for that pfp and username. You sure know our priorities.
Shops in Neighboring states right now gotta be loving this. 👏👏👏
So Glad I live in a free state sounds like an out of control government too many regulations
They just passed a similar Law over here in France ... no restrictions on manufacturers or shops ... all down to "who owns the vehicle" AND they're enforcing it with "Noise Level Cameras" (fixed/82db max), that sends the ticket to your registration address ... just installed one in Nice last week (heard about it during our local Classic Car Show last Sunday ... poor guy just finished a 3 year restoration of his 1980 Vette with a 454 running headers/side pipes ... VERY loud and he was like a Deer in the headlights !!!) Gotta love "Big Brother" eh?
Eric and SMA fans, this is the reason I am moving to Maine! I have lived in six counties downstate and three upstate, including Steuben!
30 days in prison for changing a muffler? But don't prosecute property crimes. Stay classy NY.
better yet...30 Days for this, but a guy can go rob somebody, or steal their car, or the like and they just walk out of jail because "bail is racist and preys on the poor"...so...yea, NY got that going for them too...
You nailed the hypocrisy and lunacy that is NY state government. I tell ya, left and right coasts are insane. Must be the proximity to all that water!
Not NY or a coast, but a judge gave my 80yo mom 180 days suspended sentence for having a "nuisance lawn."
@@woodstream6137 not for nothing: seems maybe you could've helped her avoid it. Son and all.
@@woodstream6137 Sounds like Commifornia. Had a friend out there get "sited" for not having his lawn "properly manicured, and of proper color". He also got a ticket for using "gas powered lawn equipment"...HORRORS.
wow, unbelievable. The King has spoken! The beatings will continue until moral improves!!
We have a queen here in NY
@@metlmuncher only because King Andy stepped down, but he's going to make another run and try to reclaim his crown 😅
@@glassvial And we will get to see just how many fools will vote for him in the primary.
As NY continues to focus on the really, really important issues of the modern era, the state slowly but surely empties. There have been "inadequate exhaust" regulations for my entire life. They have rarely been enforced, and I don't see this changing the game. Meanwhile, the education system fails and the politicians get richer.
Leave NY and come to my neck of the woods if you want.
Just remember though, you're a "refugee", not a "missionary."
The "education" system is not failing. It is doing EXACTLY what it was designed to do. Keep people real stupid while indoctrinating them to so thoroughly believe absolutely ridiculous lies about their reality to the point that no amount of telling them the truth will change their mind.
Yet they refuse to enforce violent and sexual crime creating more victims of said crime. Love our beautiful and diverse state but hate our super corrupt government
Yes, that is because people Parent of babies at home are getting tired of hearing this, also having to pay every month twice a false Alarm bill to the city, because these very loud no pipes car passed my home with super loud popping fire exhaust. Also, the loud noise is waking up our babies being startled by the crazy loud noise.
The False Alarm Bills are expensive. And scaring our babies while they are napping is just wrong...
@@Penske_Logistics_Roseburg-Ore That's a good case for charging the offenders with existing laws. Sounds like a police problem not a legislature problem.
“What are you in for?” “Magnaflow, you?” “Flowmaster”
Does that include catalytic converter thieves if they get caught?
No they just get a slap on the wrist and are told to not do that again.. Then they are given back their battery operated sawzall and set free. LOL
@@richardthomas1743 any evidence for your claim?
No penalty for the thief but 30 days in jail for the victim due to the new law.
@@philldoraine3549 Yup. In Houston cat conv theft is rampant and we have yet to see a single guy prosecuted.
@@philldoraine3549 Guilty conscience?
And yet, NY didn't harshen the 'Laws' about stealing Catalytic Converters, or Gasoline (by drilling a hole in the gas tank)!
SNAFU !
That's already illegal, what law change do you want?
@@Netherlands031 'harshen'* was in my sentence!
* make or become more cruel or severe.
@@alansmith4734 What good would harshening do? Do you believe it would deter a person from steeling them? What are they now? What should they be moved up to? How do they compare to other property theft? Or are you just calling for a change to a law as a reaction without really understanding..... this seems familiar.
@@Netherlands031 Increas the penalties !
@@Netherlands031 "Harshen" Make them pay with mandatory jail time and have them chemically castrated.
So much for Criminal
Justice reform in PR of NY. Jail time for an equipment violation. I believe this would also prohibit “factory” cut out systems?
So “whistle tips” are still legal!
W00t woot!
I love that video WOOT WOOT!
@@SouthMainAuto
That video shows our age
By that same premise, guns shouldn't be very loud either. They need to be silenced!
I like the way you think
There may be a law somewhere outlawing silencers.Not sure why but I think I read that somewhere. Maybe it was on Law and Order.
Come down here to Texas Eric! Bring the family with you. The laws are generally more conducive to small businesses actually making a little money and the vehicles can actually make it to 300k miles and still have a frame! Who knew? 😁🤣🤣
Yeah, that's all fine and good if you can stand the bigotry and racially-motivated discrimination (don't say it doesn't happen, because if you gave me a week and $100 to do some research you can bet I'd turn up a bunch of cases of exactly that).
At least it ain't Florida, where now you get put in jail for not lying about yourself if you're "certain kinds of people".
That would mean fewer repairs, so probably not good for auto shops.
Salt is Eric O's business partner!
@@Cheepchipsable Sort of yes, but actually no. Salt is NOT Eric O's business partner, because the books only give you so many hours to get a job done. You don't make any more money if it takes longer. And salt makes taking the vehicle apart take longer (and generally more destructive as well).
In other words, it just hurts the bottom line. And sometimes you can't even do a job because the vehicle's too far gone (critical parts of the body, frame, or sub-frame rusted into Swiss cheese as thin as tinfoil instead of the strong thick metal it needs to be).
But Scotty Kilmer said that he had to leave???
So to add ,if the state is concerned about noise pollution seems to me they should also be concerned with loud guns and should recommend mufflers to quiet 🤫 them.
The key point was the reduction of noise weather it be from vehicles or fire arms.
Noise is noise.
Blah, Blah, Blah scratcher.
Thanks for the update! I don’t operate in New York but I have family that lives up there. I am in the not so great state of Indiana where as we speak they’re try to pass a law where in order to do anything with a catalytic converter you have to be registered with the secretary of states office.. ugh!!
Unless you steal them.
@@jasonflowers3830 I'm also from Indiana. Legally you basically can't sell them here unless you are a certified technician.
Actual criminals don't get locked up, but you mess with your vehicles OEM equipment you will probably get locked up with other like minded reprehensible offenders.
Criminals don`t have any money...gotta go after workin people.
I bet it would not apply to an illegal immigrant!
OEM equipment is important for the safe operation of the vehicle and other's enjoyment of non excessive noise.
The darker your skin the more lenient they seem to be. Very strange!
You're not gonna get locked up for a loud exhaust unless you choose to be. Refuse to pay the fine and you may be jailed.
What I find interesting about the letter is that they eliminated the phrase "Or use" which makes me think there is a "grandfather" effect? So, we can't sell, install or otherwise but feel free to use the hell out of them if you have them already!!??!!! Welcome to the Vampire State!!! Leave your hard earned dollars, sanity and basic civil freedoms at the door, please!
I really hate this State.
Tennessee ends inspections and NY sticks it to the man,,, Why would I move back?
California has had that same law for decades! Harley sells the exhaust but won't install it. We have 2 laws. Defective muffler, which is a fix-it and Modified Exhaust which is a fine and fix-it. Did you know? We also have a Law which is "Failure to correct after notification by a Police Officer". This is a fine and a point on your record for failing to comply.
I live in NY and have driven around without mufflers after they've fallen off of my old cars. One got torn off in a giant pothole. I got pulled over twice with two different cars. As long as I had them fixed within 72 hours, I just went to the police station with the ticket and receipt and they would throw it out.
I forget. Is "failing to comply." actually in the book, 1984?
California closed the “out of state loophole” I noticed, and lots have been ticketed, impounded. But that’s from the news.
California probably wrote the law because of me. In the 80s my GTO was big block powered high compression . Sprint car cam grind with massive headers and turbo mufflers bolted directly to the collector adapters. I let a friend drive the GTO to the parts store 4 miles away. I heard every shift. My friend did have a huge smile on his face wed when he came back
California has always had failure to appear, as well. Get a $5 jaywalking ticket, fail to appear in court, $200 fine and a bench warrant (40 years ago). I learned very quickly that California does not care if you break the law, but you damn well better do what they tell you, when they tell you, and how they tell you. They do not tolerate disobedience.
I agree with that when it comes to the cars that... pop pop POP on decel... like there's a drive-by shooting. Here in Philly, they started putting up cameras with noise detection in an attempt to curb that new exhaust fad. Idk if they've been activated yet.. but I know these systems are getting installed. I think to also curb the boom boom thump from music, which I agree with also, at least in the night hrs.
I wish Atlanta would do this. I’m sick of loud azz cars passing by.
Wish Illinois would adopt this law. Especially for murdercycles.
What are they going to do with a Tesla that is playing loud exhaust noises on external speakers?
Gave me an idea - next time I pass a NY trooper I'll have a trombone in the vehicle. We'll go by playing exhaust sounds, HAHAHA! BRRRRRRRRT, BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT!! 😁
yeah but that's OEM. So NP.
fortunately or unfortunately Tesla is bar none, the most hipster doofus car of the last decade. Making a slow 180 degree turn to embarrassing to own rather than when they were cool. I'm not saying Electric cars aren't the future or Tesla is going out of business tomorrow or anything like that, before a fanboy gets all menstrual and taps my tail light.
If I get pulled over I’ll just hit the trunk monkey button in my car. I know that monkey stores donuts 🍩 in the trunk with him.
It's a wonderful law that won't stand up to basic good lawyering. Aside from a maximum sound level established by the state, there are no specific noise levels set or distributed by car companies at the time of sale. As such, it would be impossible to replace a muffler even with a OEM replacement and be sure that it is exactly the same sound level or lower.
Further, if an exhaust system is "50 state legal", passes emissions, and does not exceed the statutory maximum sound level for a motor vehicle, it would be in compliance with federal motor standards. Setting a more stringent sound level law without first establishing methods by which it would be checked, mandating that car companies disclose exact sound levels as per that specific test, and without allowing for variation from part to part the state fails to allow for real world application of such a law.
Basically, they will get laughed out of court. By the law as it stands, nobody (not even a dealer) could risk replacing an exhaust system for fear that it would be 0.0001% louder and thus in violation of the law as written.
Politicians are morons.
The insane jail keppers of the NEW YORK GULAG have spoken. Do not fail to obey!
Just another way for a cop on a bad day to have "just cause" to pull you and see what other violations they can cite, one of them will stick and you'll have to pay the fines and court cost and generate that revenue, which let's be real is what this type of silly laws are actually for.
You are now aware that it's a copy paste of other states laws. Has stood up in court, so I'm just laughing at you now.
Here in Ontario they announced that they will be cracking down on loud aftermarket exhaust. They have trained a certain percentage of the police force with the use of decibel meters to enforce this.
This is a worldwide enactment of lockstep laws in the war against petroleum vehicles.
Not to mention that even OEM mufflers change in dB and tone over time.
Lol 30 days in prison 🤦♂️ wow these guys are dictators.
That's what happens a few too many take it too far!
Required to have a suppressor on your car but can't have one on your gun. WTF, NY????
Wow! They make laws to keep mufflers on vehicles, but not ones to repeat offenders in jail. Like you know, the guy who punched a lady 125 times!
Yeah, that would be racist......
So you are upset that a man that commited a hate crime is in jail charged with a hate crime, and when I go to your youtube about page you are calling for a racist to be put back on youtube. The woman you mentioned was attacked because of increasing hostility towards Asians but you want someone to be able to spread more of it? It seems like you are complaining about this for a different reason.
That is true
@@nonames101 Crowder, Racist. Lmfao. Your perceptions are pretty skewed my guy.
@@agenericaccount3935 remember it's only racist if you don't agree with the person lol
Meanwhile here in CA you can walk out of a store with $1000.00 of merchandise and only get a ticket. Rite Aid has closed a bunch of stores in SF. Food Max closed in our town due to the losses. Who has time to worry about a muffler?
Trust me, I've been more annoyed and heard more deafening sound from car audio speakers and subwoofers than any muffler on the market. In fact, these sound systems often outdo open exhaust with no muffler(s).
Now here is a intelligent statement. Thank you Chris
I truly can’t see how anyone can live in New York and California. Laws are insane
It's pretty simple:
Step 1 - Make lots of money.
Step 2 - Don't do ANYTHING that puts you on the wrong side of the law. Example - keep your damn car or motorcycle STOCK.
Step 3 - Keep a law firm on retainer, because they will make a law that you will be in violation of, sooner or later.
This is clearly aimed at people that straight pipe their systems, waking up the neighborhood.
I couldn’t live there for sure why I don’t
"Wacking off your muffler" sounded like...innuendo. 😁We don't inspect cars anymore or have much rust where I live. We do however, have huge tornadoes. You could always move. Scotty packed it up and moved to Tennessee and he fixes them cars right in the driveway and doesn't even own a lift. 😁😁
Scotty is a joke though.
fix? not any more, man is a u tub salesman now; avoid
He doesn’t fix a thing lol
@@_doomzday what does that have to do with the cars he’s fixing?
@@josepeixoto3384 Scotty is as full of shit as a Christmas turkey. Avoid avoid avoid
Glad I missed that memo, lol. Just deleted a customer's new truck last week and straight piped it out before the duals.
Un-friggin' believable. That's nuts.
How do we get this enacted in Ohio? The self centered jerks on motorcycles with the loud mufflers make me ashamed to call myself a motorcyclist.
That's probably actually the ones with no mufflers...
Yep, same in the Province of Ontario and yet there are Harley's rumbling all over the place annoying everyone. Some towns now have noise by-laws so they can ticket them locally. 🤔
April 1st u say? Hmmmm. Reminde wat happened April 1st
Haha, they can try... Be gladly moving back to the prairies once my work here is done. Authoritario isn't worth it
The only thing needing whacked is the lawmakers.
Going back to basics, When I was an inspector back in 1979 in UT that was the rule. Noise Pollution laws are Back!!!
We all know what the problem in New York is.
The entire Northeast for that matter ...
I'm not afraid to say it..............DEMOCRATS!
@@turbo8454 Its Demonrats I tell ya, Demonrats everywhere !!! I drive a GT45 turbo's smallblock daily with fender exit exhaust lol.
It's gonna get to the point where I'm gonna have to spend my money on drugs and not car parts
"Start spreading the news. I'm leavin' today." New York, New York.
If the customer wants it off and is willing to pay why should I be held accountable. Stupid laws for a horrible state. I wana move.
60 days in prison if someone cuts your cats off and you’re caught driving to the repair shop!
Eric, I love your channel, and I appreciate your passion, and understand your frustration. The original INTENT of this law change was to try to put and end to kids with tuner cars that have exhaust pops and burbles that sounds like gunshots. In rural areas of NY like Avoca, this is probably far more uncommon compared to Queens, which is really annoying. People in the 5 boros are more likely to work all hours, so hearing while trying to sleep (during the day) is very disruptive, hence the bill was written. Since lawmakers in NY assembly are by and large not car people, they don't understand that those sounds are mainly due to tuning, rather than exhaust components themselves (I might be wrong here - full disclosure!). In reality, we know that enforcement of this law will be extremely selective and primarily target tuner cars and shops.
Tuning doesn't make a louder car, just exhaust systems. The problem with this law is that it gives police the ability to pull over anyone with a loud exhaust. Like we need police to waste tax payers money to drive around and give tickets. High flow mufflers are louder but also offer better MPG as well as performance. Why you think people put them on their cars? They are also generally stainless steel since the NY roads are so salty and cause the OEM exhaust system to rot out. These aftermarket systems are also generally cheaper than OEM. Far as I'm concerned this is a tax on the poor. A law created from a bunch of people who can afford to drive Tesla's.
More like pickup knuckle draggers or their H/D riders with their leather chaps on.
@@DukenukemX But it can, when you change the exhaust cam timing. I have an Audi S4. It is stage 2 FBO fully tuned ECU and TCU. It can go pop pop pop OR wait for it.... close the exhaust valves and it shuts up. I speak for myself here. I am not an a-hole. I don't poop where I eat. In any residential neighborhood I shut the car up. Because I myself can't stand people who don't respect another's home. So it is the people who have no self control (as always) the ruin it for everyone else.
And lets be honest. Backpressure has zip to do with lambda or AFR in an MPG sense. A motor is an air pump.
@@GOOGLM3_NY I understand but a lot of the things that make cars quiet are also ruining mpg and hp. Mufflers are one example, but intake resonators also do this as the back pressure of the air intake will make a roaring noise, so manufacturers put in resonators which act like mufflers. This is mostly so the driver doesn't hear it, not the neighborhood, but the same principal applies here too.
My Corvette is quiet on purpose because I don't want to hear the car loud myself, and get pulled over from police. Car is red too, so I'm basically a cop magnet. I have aftermarket long tube headers but a stock style muffler. It did get louder but not so much to annoy the neighborhood, but if I want to maximize my performance then the mufflers have to be replaced with louder free flowing ones.
We have that too in Hawaii but the onus is on the driver, not the shop
Ultimately they want us to drive electric. No thanks! Me man, me like combustion.
I remember when the 'law' limited speedometers to 85MPH because that would stop drivers from speeding.
Thank you Joan Claybrook, SecTrans.
How about the 3rd brake light law? Yeah, that's really helped, too . Oh, aside from the idiots that allow all the other brake lights to burn out except the 3rd brake light.
Too loud. Straight to jail.
Land of the Free? There's not even any inspection laws up north here, although there are new city bylaws about the loudness of exhausts, specifically to target the super loud motorbikes that can be heard screaming a mile away
Wow, so that’s what the NY legislature has been working on. As if there’s nothing else significant that might need their attention.
So does this mean that you have to use the OEM factory exhaust on every exhaust replacement job? OR, are the manufacturers going to publish the noise levels of all their vehicles so that mechanics can make sure that any repair meets or exceeds the factory noise specification? Ridiculous. They need to set a db level and enforce that.
You can't always even GET OEM-spec parts.
Paul that's how I interpreted it.
The OEM ratings are part of the EPA Noise Pollution Control Act at the Federal Level. That rating is "recognized" as the OEM rating for new vehicles sold under the ACT since the OEM can not Exceed that noise level.
They have always had a dB level. Section 386 of the Vehicle & Traffic law. Vehicles under 10,000 lbs 35 mph or less 86 dB(A) 35mph or more 90 dB(A). Motorcycles 35 miles per hour or less 82 dB(A) over 35 mph 86 dB(A).
If you can't afford to drive a car then don't drive one oh no did I hurt some feelings
I am divided on this subject. On one hand I absolutely hate those loud exhausts from straight piping or installing those fart can exhausts. One the other hand I am uncomfortable with the heavy hand of government sanctioned violence used to tell people what to do with their vehicles and some exhaust systems really enhance the sound while being marginally louder than stock.
The law is a unforgiving and I flexible thing. I would be more comfortable if they simply defined a maximum volume at a defined distance than the more relative stock volume standard.
I agree. This seems a bit heavy handed but loud exhausts are getting out of control from mid life crisis Harleys to pimped out diesel pickups to your average modified Mustang. Your neighbor with his loud exhaust can wake hundreds of sleeping babies and adults just driving to work early in the morning. This law will also be tricky to enforce without specifying sound pressure levels and a consistent method for measuring. Not many cops are going to try to crawl under a car for a look and might not be able to tell what they’re looking at even if they do. But they can at least go after the obviously really loud vehicles which are the worst offenders. But obviously if shops are installing illegal exhausts that’s easier to enforce.
Too simple. Wont work. Makes too much sense.
Your only now concerned about the heavy handedness of government?
@@robroberts1473 Right? At least people are realizing that no matter who is in office the govt is getting out of hand……
Government is for the people and by the people. These things just dont come out of government.. They originate from the folks and remedied by the government. Nobody really likes loud obtrusive popping and roaring down peaceful serene areas. If you do you would be in the minority. Good law in my view.. Lots of engineering goes into keeping motors quiet.. Why not use it.
Who has the burden of proof?
That's right..
Keep on keepin' on.
Terrible state government in general. This is just a drop in the bucket, but it certainly adds to the annoyance that is NYS
Most states have had these laws for a long time.Also illegal to up your rim size more than 2 inches from factory.Loud exhaust and illegal aftermarket has been around in most states requiring inspection for a long time.Pretty much as long as your vehicle is not annoyingly loud you're okay....until you try to get an inspection sticker.
When was the last time someone went to jail for a loud muffler? NY has had these laws for many, many years. They've just increased the penalties.
@@MeltingRubberZ28 Yeah every other mirror cycle, JDM 4-banger, and Pickup truck that isn’t some leased rent-a-car has a muffler delete or aftermarket exhuast equipment installed on it. Most cops don’t care unless it’s extremely loud. This law will only make getting inspections done on those vehicles tougher. Expect to see more fake inspection tags LOL.
You go to jail in New York for changing a muffler from stock but you can loot a store, commit assault,use drugs in public and they let you go. Sounds like a great state
the dye on your red hat is running
@@frankoch1 at least I’m still black if I vote red. If I don’t vote blue Joe believes I’m not my race.
Dude, you would have to be a serious repeat offender, or be doing hundred of muffler deletes to begin to even look like doing jail time.
@@Cheepchipsable Unless someone there had it out for you, has a money making interest in your business closure or property. Selective enforcement and prosecution for corrupt reasons happens when the means are put in place.
@@frankoch1 Is that you DA Bragg? Don’t you have a felon to release?
My muffler got ripped off when I was unable to avoid a huge pot hole in the road !!!! Is the state going to pay for the damage and a new one since their neglect caused it to get torn off ???????????? 🥵😵😵💫😖😩😡🤬
That’s about the funniest thing I heard today …😂😂
Wow...that is some strict laws. I'm curious if old ones are grandfathered in.
I wouldn't take the chance, a loud vehicle is easy to spot a mile away, the noise is a dead give away.
I feel bad for all those 72 Chevelles with Flowmasters.
Great law! Some guy in a Honda car drives by my house disturbing my tranquil rural environment. Sounds like The Jolly Green Giant Farting. Drives me nuts. Semis go by here an I don't even notice them.
Public service announcement right here 😅
Robert Heinlein had some words of wisdom, concerning such things...
Since the new mufflelators cannot allow the sound of the motor to be louder than the original factory equipment, this means the state has to measure the loudness of the factory motors with a calibrated loudness meter of every past and present motor in the state, to verify that a new mufflelator is in compliance (or not) with the new law.
Good luck with that NY.
No, it will be another subjective decision by the constabulary. Just hope you get a cop who has hearing problems
I think there is a federal decibel limit. They will probably use that as base and anything over that will get you fined.
There are already laws regulating sound level limits as part of both FMVSS and state laws - in the case of NY it's max 82db per Section 386 Motor Vehicle Sound LImits in the Vehicle & Traffic Law.
More likely if Johnny Law hears you getting on the loud pedal and you've modified your exhaust or "rolling coal", they now have cause to pull you over.
Let's be real, you should get pulled over of you are dumb enough to "roll coal". Its literally a calling sign that says' Im a less endowed, asshole".
Here in Colorado, we’ve had a noise regulation since 1982. The max limit is 82db. I don’t know what the penalties are for breaking that, but there are penalties. It just isn’t well enforced. Some states have had similar laws all the way back to 1973 so they’re not uncommon. Sounds like NY is just stepping up the enforcement level about a hundred fold.
I can assure there is ZERO compliance with noise regulations.
Every law is for making money regards cars, bikes etc, indirect taxation.
"since 1982", "The max limit is 82db" ??
My beer farts are 86db.😂😂😂
Unfortunately, just like tinted windows, they are putting the burden of responsibility to "police" these things on the Inspections stations. Price is still $21 for a NYSI. So, not accounting for time it takes to perform one, add that liability exposure to the aprox $8- $10 "profit" we make on them.
It's stupid and unenforceable like the magazine capacity restrictions. It's just there to make people believe the government is doing something while not really doing anything.
Thank you Mr. O on the California law 🤦♂️sorry I mean New York law update.
This is what happens when you vote in very old people. Reminds me of my mom with my radio one click from off, " turn it down, does it have to be so loud"?
When the driving lights on when it's raining law first came out I forgot to do just that and passed a state trooper going the other way. Man, he spun that cruiser around so fast my head spun.
He thought he hit the lottery as I had an older pickup truck that was rusted pretty good.
But, unbeknownst to him, I had a business and kept the truck maintenance and safety inspection requirements up to snuff.
He was actually pissed that all he could do is write a ticket for the headlights which ended up as a $15 fine.
😁😄😅😂😋
I was a Trooper. We used to joke about the "headlights on when the wipers are on" law. I don't know of a single guy that ever wrote that section.
I see the troopers drive with the wipers on and no headlights all the time!
@@Bret4207 I just drive around with no wipers, trooper!
@@annyer262 Yeah, and they walk around out of the car without the Stetson on! Or talking in the cell phone! Drives me nuts! I've been retired 13 years and I was a dinosaur when I left. By your handle I take it you're a Northern NYer? I'm up near Ogdensburg.
@@jeffmellow Yeah, I got trucks like that too!!! ;)
I live in NY. I went and found this new law and read it. The new provisions - and elimination of old ones - move the enforcement and penalties from end users to businesses and shops like SMA. Typical New York.
Their income is down, businesses have the money to pay the fines, and they can only squeeze so much blood from the rock of the common people.
Nice place to visit but that would not want to live there I really don't understand how you people in New York deal with such crap we're from the Live Free or Die State of New Hampshire we don't have to deal with half the crap you people do down there
Only the people of NY Can change this mess, stop electing IDIOT TYRANTS. If they get outta
Line smack em up side of their head like Will Smith did to Chris Rock.
@@bigbobno11 I think that it would ruin your visit wondering if you were doing anything to draw attention to your out of state status and become a eye score for the local cops
@@bigbobno11 I love NH but be careful what you wish for , Shaheen and her husband along with the moonbats crossing the border are working overtime to make nh mass communist lite. I am in mass on the border and just tried to have a certain vape juice that I can't get locally in nh shops sent to my brother in laws house who lives in NH and it said they can't even ship to nh anymore because a bunch of states passed a law to not allow shipping vape products and nh joined in. Very annoying. Good luck
Politicians need mufflers !!!
Thanks government. That works for the citizens.
Love this! No more reprieve for penile challenged males! LMAO! Thank You New York State!!!
Hi Eric,
What if the muffler system was changed out of state? You and your family stay safe.
Nope, inspection station gets pinched.
@@walterk1221 so far I'm not seeing a update to the inspection regulations that included muffler/exhaust noise regulation. I think this is just traffic law for now. But it could change like tint did.
Edit
It appears it is part of the motorcycle inspection process
Thank goodness you told him and his family to stay safe
When you first go to get the vehicle inspected, assuming you moved to New York, You will not pass inspection until exhaust is returned to factory decibel level.
@@gpadog That's assuming they kept records for what the factory exhaust noise level is in the first place!
And because the state would have to actually do something in order to record said stock noise levels, per vehicle, for LITERALLY EVERY KIND OF VEHICLE EVER MADE, INCLUDING MODIFICATIONS OFFERED BY THE AUTOMAKER, you get exactly one result from all this legalese.
Absolutely nothing changed WRT what actually gets you in trouble, just that now instead of the person getting fined, they fine the shop that let it pass inspection.
Great. Make more people unemployed for "stupid shit" reasons. That's just what we need.
Thank you I wish they would do that in md
When politicians tell you they will “take care of you” they ain’t kidding.
A fine for doing something just means it's Legal with a price.
so... are they gonna put the road salters in jail? because they make y'all's mufflers louder all the time
Well now how am I going to BRING THE CHEVY THUNDER???!!
Dr.o, would you consider doing
“a shop day” video soon? Maybe when AC season kicks off?
This probably has a lot to do with NYC, were you must also have "city" horns. The city is already loud enough without adding more noise. We have, I assume, Harley riders here in Wisconsin, riding around with exhausts so loud you can't hear anything but them when they're near you on the street. And that means emergency vehicles as well as the radio.
The city horn law was repealed a long time ago. It was in effect in 1974, the same year they came out with cars that would not start if you didn't fasten your seat belt. Fortunately that was easily bypassed by disconnecting the seat sensor connector.
City horns? Again? I thought the came and went in the 70's, never got back on the books again.
But, but, those Harleys are "saving lives"!
30 days in prison for having a loud muffler? That's asinine.
But no jail time if you fire your gun at a rival gang member.
Your attitude is noticed, you know. Oh, yes, it's been noticed! (From Dr. Zhivago)
I can imagine Hank hill saying that word for word 😂
What's asinine is that someone actually believes this.
they tried that in the uk back in the 80'sIt fell on its face
These are the big problems we have in New York... tax dollars at work.
This is very interesting the way they worded it. I have a 2021 Mustang that stock is over 82 DB. So how would that work than lol.
Being NY upside down "government" they'd probably have you stick half a potato in your tail pipe to help reduce noise
Since the limit for vehicles under 10,000 lbs at 35 mph or less is 86 dB(A) and above 35mph is 90 dB(A), you are good.
Honestly I truly hate when the rice burners cut off the muffler, sounds like crap! I love a rumble of a good V8 , but a 4 banger 🙄those people need to be fined and jailed
Too true. Here in the uk gas is too expensive for the local teens to be able to run a large capacity engine, so old codgers like me have to listen to their wheezy 4 pots with straight through exhausts all weekend. Highly irritating.
@@Macmonkey1000 yeah it's very annoying 😠
They sound like garbage those 4 cylinder engines even with a hush thrush muffler on they sound terrible.
@@williegillie5712 I agree
They did that in Australia, I am not sure if it is every State & Territory or just mine. It is sad, the rumble of a V8 is as Australian as meat pies. It should be an offence to bring in stupid laws! It should be an offence to suggest stupid laws! It should be n offence to bring in laws for the minority! It should be an offence to be a greenie!!!
This started in California last year, no surprise that NY got onboard as well.
I've got a neighbor across the street whose kid likes to have "Vroom, Vroom" cars. In the past he's had 4 bangers with coffee can mufflers. Two weeks ago he got a Dodge Charger with what sounds like a V-8. Wish I knew where he gets the money because he's a little off in the head and once worked collecting carts at Walmart. "A very important job..." he said.
I had a neighbor kid who did the same thing. He also had sport bikes. He would sit in a lawn chair in the driveway, next to the bike, and redline the shit out of it all day long.
I knew a kid sort of like that. He was getting disability checks and spent it on cars.
Probably a drug dealer
What's that got to do with this? Are you in N.Y. or do you just like to complain and worry about other people's finances?
This kind of law is in Australia too - The police use it to impound the 1% gangs around here. You'll see 10-15 bikes in a ride all get corralled and impounded for being too loud. The cops do it when the club ride is way out in the middle of nowhere...
That must be another nice place to live in then, with cops that are so efficient; avoid
Will they Crack down at inspection like they now do on tint?
You guys should understand-- if you get screwed like this and can't drive your car anymore-- Just get a friend with a trailer to drag it to a neighboring state and sell it.. Because here in Oklahoma-- we don't have inspections, so we can get away with all these "mods" without issue, typically.