Our farm acquired an Allis-Chalmers 190 XT tractor, initially equipped with a six-bottom plow (later, we added another bottom), and a 22-foot Kewanee disk. To improve its performance, we increased the tractor’s power from 93 to 140 horsepower, allowing it to effectively pull both the plow and disk. At first, we encountered overheating issues, which we resolved by removing some side panels to improve airflow. A blockman from Indianapolis, Indiana, was brought in to troubleshoot the problem. After these issues were addressed, we did not experience any further problems while we owned the tractor. As always, a good video.
@@teatimekev8631 What do you mean by “operating belt driven machines?” This plow was on a 3-point hitch, 7 bottom or a 22-foot disk. No belts involved. This issue persisted until the blockman, after several attempts, removed side panels on each side of the engine to enhance air flow over the engine. I was responsible for plowing most of the 500 acres and operated the tractor 80% of the time, making the scale of the operation quite significant. I sought the assistance of the local dealer to bring in a more experienced blockman, knowing their expertise is crucial in resolving the issue.
Don't know where you got your AI script, and I don't know much about the bigger tractors on this list but I do know quite a bit about the Deere MT. The thermosiphon cooling system worked remarkably well for engines of that era and did so without the use of a water pump. For small farms the M series of Deeres and the subsequent 40, 420 and 430 were very well built tractors and many are still in use today.
My cousins have 7 allis 190’s with around 8000 hours each pulling brand new hay and tillage equipment and not missing a beat. They buy up every one they can find that isn’t ridiculously priced because they’ve never failed them other than minor repairs, they do a good job on maintaining everything they own. Also 1805 having the 3208 cat is a monster the biggest downside Massey did on fuel consumption is not listening to cat and having a turbo on it and an Eaton transmission. Slap those on the engine and let it rip. That engine was in semis for a very long time before I-6’s became king and the lexion/cat sponsored super modified pulling truck from Ohio ran one of those at 2000+ ponies. Shame when companies didn’t listen to their suppliers enough to make the risk worth it
This doesn’t know what he is talking about. We had a 560 and never had any cooling issues. The rear end had all ready been upgraded, we never had any issues with transmission
The IH 3588 was a very good tractor once you learned how to operate it. The steering was very sensitive, making driving on the road interesting. The other issue, was the flywheel was mounted on the transmission, instead of the engine, connected by a driveshaft. The system didn’t like to operate smoothly at idle.
Every manufacturer has made duds. A lot of peoples issues were created by themselves. Expecting more out of something than it's capable of is just asking for trouble. I see this on a lot of places, wondering why something doesn't work as well as you thought. You cannot expect something designed and built 70 years ago, when operated like todays design is going to work as well as you expect
Who is this guy listening to? Allis improved the rear end of the 190XT fairly early, we never had a problem with ours. A friend has a John Deere MT, and it's still going strong for him.
The Ford 6000 was a hydraulic nightmare. They used the same hydraulic pump used in the 8N, a low volume output, connected to an accumulator to store the fluid under pressure until needed. They leaked like a sieve. With the accumulator charged up, it would drip fluid wherever it was parked. The transmission was a variation of the power shift found on the John Deere tractors.
@@robertheinkel6225 Of course it was. Ford fired the engineer who designed the Select-O-Speed when he complained about rushing it to the public. He was then hired by JD and had time to fine tune the issues.
Our farm acquired an Allis-Chalmers 190 XT tractor, initially equipped with a six-bottom plow (later, we added another bottom), and a 22-foot Kewanee disk. To improve its performance, we increased the tractor’s power from 93 to 140 horsepower, allowing it to effectively pull both the plow and disk. At first, we encountered overheating issues, which we resolved by removing some side panels to improve airflow. A blockman from Indianapolis, Indiana, was brought in to troubleshoot the problem. After these issues were addressed, we did not experience any further problems while we owned the tractor. As always, a good video.
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It only had cooling issues when it was operating belt driven machines
@@teatimekev8631 What do you mean by “operating belt driven machines?” This plow was on a 3-point hitch, 7 bottom or a 22-foot disk. No belts involved. This issue persisted until the blockman, after several attempts, removed side panels on each side of the engine to enhance air flow over the engine. I was responsible for plowing most of the 500 acres and operated the tractor 80% of the time, making the scale of the operation quite significant. I sought the assistance of the local dealer to bring in a more experienced blockman, knowing their expertise is crucial in resolving the issue.
Don't know where you got your AI script, and I don't know much about the bigger tractors on this list but I do know quite a bit about the Deere MT. The thermosiphon cooling system worked remarkably well for engines of that era and did so without the use of a water pump. For small farms the M series of Deeres and the subsequent 40, 420 and 430 were very well built tractors and many are still in use today.
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By the time you got to the 430 series, they were a completely different piece of equipment. The MT's so to speak fell between the chairs.
My cousins have 7 allis 190’s with around 8000 hours each pulling brand new hay and tillage equipment and not missing a beat. They buy up every one they can find that isn’t ridiculously priced because they’ve never failed them other than minor repairs, they do a good job on maintaining everything they own. Also 1805 having the 3208 cat is a monster the biggest downside Massey did on fuel consumption is not listening to cat and having a turbo on it and an Eaton transmission. Slap those on the engine and let it rip. That engine was in semis for a very long time before I-6’s became king and the lexion/cat sponsored super modified pulling truck from Ohio ran one of those at 2000+ ponies. Shame when companies didn’t listen to their suppliers enough to make the risk worth it
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I had a 2010 J D 1963. Bad design. Caused me grief. Went back to red paint.
you are very sad
This doesn’t know what he is talking about. We had a 560 and never had any cooling issues. The rear end had all ready been upgraded, we never had any issues with transmission
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The IH 3588 was a very good tractor once you learned how to operate it. The steering was very sensitive, making driving on the road interesting. The other issue, was the flywheel was mounted on the transmission, instead of the engine, connected by a driveshaft. The system didn’t like to operate smoothly at idle.
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We had 2 formal 560,s
.once the new rear end was installed, not a bad tractor
Every manufacturer has made duds. A lot of peoples issues were created by themselves. Expecting more out of something than it's capable of is just asking for trouble. I see this on a lot of places, wondering why something doesn't work as well as you thought. You cannot expect something designed and built 70 years ago, when operated like todays design is going to work as well as you expect
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Who is this guy listening to? Allis improved the rear end of the 190XT fairly early, we never had a problem with ours. A friend has a John Deere MT, and it's still going strong for him.
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The Ford 6000 was a hydraulic nightmare. They used the same hydraulic pump used in the 8N, a low volume output, connected to an accumulator to store the fluid under pressure until needed. They leaked like a sieve. With the accumulator charged up, it would drip fluid wherever it was parked. The transmission was a variation of the power shift found on the John Deere tractors.
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@@robertheinkel6225 Of course it was. Ford fired the engineer who designed the Select-O-Speed when he complained about rushing it to the public. He was then hired by JD and had time to fine tune the issues.
See alot of inoperable Case 1070s sitting around.
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It is clear this guy doesn't know what he is talking about
Very clear
😂 well he's spot on about the Junk Deere