Our farm acquired an Allis-Chalmers 190 XT tractor, initially equipped with a six-bottom plow (later, we added another bottom), and a 22-foot Kewanee disk. To improve its performance, we increased the tractor’s power from 93 to 140 horsepower, allowing it to effectively pull both the plow and disk. At first, we encountered overheating issues, which we resolved by removing some side panels to improve airflow. A blockman from Indianapolis, Indiana, was brought in to troubleshoot the problem. After these issues were addressed, we did not experience any further problems while we owned the tractor. As always, a good video.
@@teatimekev8631 What do you mean by “operating belt driven machines?” This plow was on a 3-point hitch, 7 bottom or a 22-foot disk. No belts involved. This issue persisted until the blockman, after several attempts, removed side panels on each side of the engine to enhance air flow over the engine. I was responsible for plowing most of the 500 acres and operated the tractor 80% of the time, making the scale of the operation quite significant. I sought the assistance of the local dealer to bring in a more experienced blockman, knowing their expertise is crucial in resolving the issue.
This doesn’t know what he is talking about. We had a 560 and never had any cooling issues. The rear end had all ready been upgraded, we never had any issues with transmission
saw many of these in the 70s as used equipment. We ran 9N and Jubilee models that were older than me and a NH baler with Wisconsin engine. Flywheel start. My dad's friend hired me and I drove Massey 135 diesel. Too small for anything but groundskeeper duty today. Watching haying today is like a Dr Suess movie.
The 5-6-0 or for those of us who owned one and farmed with one.. the five sixty, we farmed about a hundred tillable acres back in the late 70s and early 80s and I loved that tractor. Never had either of the problems mentioned? Granted it was a smaller tractor but for what it had the horsepower for it was very reliable and a comfortable tractor to operate.
Don't know where you got your AI script, and I don't know much about the bigger tractors on this list but I do know quite a bit about the Deere MT. The thermosiphon cooling system worked remarkably well for engines of that era and did so without the use of a water pump. For small farms the M series of Deeres and the subsequent 40, 420 and 430 were very well built tractors and many are still in use today.
Every manufacturer has made duds. A lot of peoples issues were created by themselves. Expecting more out of something than it's capable of is just asking for trouble. I see this on a lot of places, wondering why something doesn't work as well as you thought. You cannot expect something designed and built 70 years ago, when operated like todays design is going to work as well as you expect
My cousins have 7 allis 190’s with around 8000 hours each pulling brand new hay and tillage equipment and not missing a beat. They buy up every one they can find that isn’t ridiculously priced because they’ve never failed them other than minor repairs, they do a good job on maintaining everything they own. Also 1805 having the 3208 cat is a monster the biggest downside Massey did on fuel consumption is not listening to cat and having a turbo on it and an Eaton transmission. Slap those on the engine and let it rip. That engine was in semis for a very long time before I-6’s became king and the lexion/cat sponsored super modified pulling truck from Ohio ran one of those at 2000+ ponies. Shame when companies didn’t listen to their suppliers enough to make the risk worth it
I don't know why they trashed the Case 1070. I spent a lot of time in that tractor in the early 80's and never experienced any of those problems they listed. It was a great tractor, least i thought so anyway
Actually not a bad list. 560 was revolutionary but its unreliability issues let Deere pass IH in sales with the 2 cylinders. We had a 190xt, I remember the loaner we had more than the XT because the XT was always in the shop. For as good as the 3010/4010 were Deere had a lot of issues with some of the smaller tractors from that era. The MF 4wd were not very reliable when they were introduced. Seems like most of the import tractors struggled in the US market when first introduced. Most of these tractors from the 50 - 70’s time frame. Unbelievable quick development in HP, drivetrains and features during a short time period. That there were some problems is not to surprising.
Who is this guy listening to? Allis improved the rear end of the 190XT fairly early, we never had a problem with ours. A friend has a John Deere MT, and it's still going strong for him.
I had 2010 JD - actually 3. Motor, brakes not good but great pulling power for little tractor When the last one broke down got rid of them all . Drove 4020 in 1972 - ranked on other u tube Channel as best tractor of all time. I would agree !!! Built in 1966 - power shift but no cab - great memories .
Really the only bad thing about the Oliver 1250 was the gas engine. And it was light on the front end. But pass a working day behind the wheel of an MF 135 without power steering and the same day on the oliver... it was a different story.
Just by the operator comfort, and that's MY opinion. The foot accelerator, the partial synchromesh gears (2 to 3 and 5 to 6), the swivel and chain 3 pts stabilisators and the steering mechanics count a lot for me
The Ford 6000 was a hydraulic nightmare. They used the same hydraulic pump used in the 8N, a low volume output, connected to an accumulator to store the fluid under pressure until needed. They leaked like a sieve. With the accumulator charged up, it would drip fluid wherever it was parked. The transmission was a variation of the power shift found on the John Deere tractors.
@@robertheinkel6225 Of course it was. Ford fired the engineer who designed the Select-O-Speed when he complained about rushing it to the public. He was then hired by JD and had time to fine tune the issues.
The IH 3588 was a very good tractor once you learned how to operate it. The steering was very sensitive, making driving on the road interesting. The other issue, was the flywheel was mounted on the transmission, instead of the engine, connected by a driveshaft. The system didn’t like to operate smoothly at idle.
Our farm acquired an Allis-Chalmers 190 XT tractor, initially equipped with a six-bottom plow (later, we added another bottom), and a 22-foot Kewanee disk. To improve its performance, we increased the tractor’s power from 93 to 140 horsepower, allowing it to effectively pull both the plow and disk. At first, we encountered overheating issues, which we resolved by removing some side panels to improve airflow. A blockman from Indianapolis, Indiana, was brought in to troubleshoot the problem. After these issues were addressed, we did not experience any further problems while we owned the tractor. As always, a good video.
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It only had cooling issues when it was operating belt driven machines
@@teatimekev8631 What do you mean by “operating belt driven machines?” This plow was on a 3-point hitch, 7 bottom or a 22-foot disk. No belts involved. This issue persisted until the blockman, after several attempts, removed side panels on each side of the engine to enhance air flow over the engine. I was responsible for plowing most of the 500 acres and operated the tractor 80% of the time, making the scale of the operation quite significant. I sought the assistance of the local dealer to bring in a more experienced blockman, knowing their expertise is crucial in resolving the issue.
The 560 ushered in a entire line of newer higher horse tractors. It's one of the most iconic tractors of all time.
The 560 cannot be *too* bad of a machine, what with the number of them that have been made into pullers.
This doesn’t know what he is talking about. We had a 560 and never had any cooling issues. The rear end had all ready been upgraded, we never had any issues with transmission
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My neighbor has a 560 diesel and a 1566 they both blew their head gaskets this year cause of the cooling system
I have never heard of any issues with the 560 other than the TA.
saw many of these in the 70s as used equipment. We ran 9N and Jubilee models that were older than me and a NH baler with Wisconsin engine. Flywheel start. My dad's friend hired me and I drove Massey 135 diesel. Too small for anything but groundskeeper duty today. Watching haying today is like a Dr Suess movie.
The 5-6-0 or for those of us who owned one and farmed with one.. the five sixty, we farmed about a hundred tillable acres back in the late 70s and early 80s and I loved that tractor. Never had either of the problems mentioned? Granted it was a smaller tractor but for what it had the horsepower for it was very reliable and a comfortable tractor to operate.
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I had a 2010 J D 1963. Bad design. Caused me grief. Went back to red paint.
you are very sad
Jd has some trash as all company's. But this list is horrible.
Don't know where you got your AI script, and I don't know much about the bigger tractors on this list but I do know quite a bit about the Deere MT. The thermosiphon cooling system worked remarkably well for engines of that era and did so without the use of a water pump. For small farms the M series of Deeres and the subsequent 40, 420 and 430 were very well built tractors and many are still in use today.
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By the time you got to the 430 series, they were a completely different piece of equipment. The MT's so to speak fell between the chairs.
Odd to not point out three-wheel tractors could tip over. My grandfather died tipping one over mowing.
It is clear this guy doesn't know what he is talking about
Very clear
😂 well he's spot on about the Junk Deere
I like that he liked this comment!😂
In New Zealand, we had the Ford 5000 'Jerckamatic" it was OK.
Every manufacturer has made duds. A lot of peoples issues were created by themselves. Expecting more out of something than it's capable of is just asking for trouble. I see this on a lot of places, wondering why something doesn't work as well as you thought. You cannot expect something designed and built 70 years ago, when operated like todays design is going to work as well as you expect
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My cousins have 7 allis 190’s with around 8000 hours each pulling brand new hay and tillage equipment and not missing a beat. They buy up every one they can find that isn’t ridiculously priced because they’ve never failed them other than minor repairs, they do a good job on maintaining everything they own. Also 1805 having the 3208 cat is a monster the biggest downside Massey did on fuel consumption is not listening to cat and having a turbo on it and an Eaton transmission. Slap those on the engine and let it rip. That engine was in semis for a very long time before I-6’s became king and the lexion/cat sponsored super modified pulling truck from Ohio ran one of those at 2000+ ponies. Shame when companies didn’t listen to their suppliers enough to make the risk worth it
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Including john deere bcuz it shuts off randomly
We had 2 formal 560,s
.once the new rear end was installed, not a bad tractor
I don't know why they trashed the Case 1070. I spent a lot of time in that tractor in the early 80's and never experienced any of those problems they listed. It was a great tractor, least i thought so anyway
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Actually not a bad list. 560 was revolutionary but its unreliability issues let Deere pass IH in sales with the 2 cylinders. We had a 190xt, I remember the loaner we had more than the XT because the XT was always in the shop. For as good as the 3010/4010 were Deere had a lot of issues with some of the smaller tractors from that era. The MF 4wd were not very reliable when they were introduced. Seems like most of the import tractors struggled in the US market when first introduced. Most of these tractors from the 50 - 70’s time frame. Unbelievable quick development in HP, drivetrains and features during a short time period. That there were some problems is not to surprising.
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I thought the top 7 worst tractors would all be Case. Guess I was wrong.
Who is this guy listening to? Allis improved the rear end of the 190XT fairly early, we never had a problem with ours. A friend has a John Deere MT, and it's still going strong for him.
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I had 2010 JD - actually 3.
Motor, brakes not good but great pulling power for little tractor
When the last one broke down got rid of them all .
Drove 4020 in 1972 - ranked on other u tube Channel as best tractor of all time.
I would agree !!! Built in 1966 - power shift but no cab - great memories .
Really the only bad thing about the Oliver 1250 was the gas engine. And it was light on the front end. But pass a working day behind the wheel of an MF 135 without power steering and the same day on the oliver... it was a different story.
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So, did You mean that the 135 was better or worse than the Oliver ?
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Just by the operator comfort, and that's MY opinion. The foot accelerator, the partial synchromesh gears (2 to 3 and 5 to 6), the swivel and chain 3 pts stabilisators and the steering mechanics count a lot for me
@@Corvacar the oliver 1250/ fiat 415 was a more comfortable tractor in my opinion
The Ford 6000 was a hydraulic nightmare. They used the same hydraulic pump used in the 8N, a low volume output, connected to an accumulator to store the fluid under pressure until needed. They leaked like a sieve. With the accumulator charged up, it would drip fluid wherever it was parked. The transmission was a variation of the power shift found on the John Deere tractors.
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@@robertheinkel6225 Of course it was. Ford fired the engineer who designed the Select-O-Speed when he complained about rushing it to the public. He was then hired by JD and had time to fine tune the issues.
See alot of inoperable Case 1070s sitting around.
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The IH 3588 was a very good tractor once you learned how to operate it. The steering was very sensitive, making driving on the road interesting. The other issue, was the flywheel was mounted on the transmission, instead of the engine, connected by a driveshaft. The system didn’t like to operate smoothly at idle.
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Driver of the Ford 6000... take out your damn mask ! ain't no halloween !!
Hahaha
Fairly inaccurate video ripping off other peoples videos. 👎
The top 3, have got to be 2-9-8n Ford's. They were totally the worst tractors that ever had 4,rubber tires mounted on them.
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You absolutely SUCK at saying the model numbers, its a ten seventy Case
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