Marine Dislikes Mindless Battles but Likes Dragon Ball + Favorite DBZ Scenes [ENG sub] [Hololive]
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Houshou Marine talks about the importance of pacing in anime battles and ranks her favorite DBZ scenes.
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I like how she explained things with complete details and with funny commentary
Marine's conversation skills is amazing
Don't know what it is about mangaka Vtubers but they're all motor-mouth behind the microphone, they're incredibly "on" when they're on
As expected of the wise captain. She understands Piccolo greatness! Sadly, that greatness doesn't show in the latest arc.
I would say that he is shown off quite a bit in the latest arc but he’s a huge underdog in the fight so he constantly has to work together with the other underdogs to accomplish stuff. Does he need to absorb another Namekian?
@Nobody comments are not funny you troglodyte kill Raditz, be a main villain, train Gohan, be a fun character overall.
Considering Piccolo is part Kami, he should have no problem learning to harness God ki. What a big missed chance for them to make Piccolo relevant again.
it will show in the movie
@@borischan5252 i’m more mad that frieza did that thing where he controlled destruction energy and suddenly Vegeta’s the next candidate for next destroyer under beerus, when FUCKING GOKU was gonna be groomed to be next destroyer by beerus, that was the whole purpose of his training.
vegeta being a destroyer might be in line with his character but frieza just made for a more interesting choice when the possibility was there. plus frieza would probably look baller as hell in destroyer garb
"She's talking about the Broly Movie (1993)." Ah, of course.
Boomer Pirate indeed.
@Joe Dirt still better visually than any other db movie
She probably watched the movie on cable TV ch Animax.
Dragon Ball series was rerun many times on Animax in the 2000s.
@Joe Dirt I agree that old dbz movies had good animation, but I don't see how you can say that the super anime and the new movie have the same animation, all that plasticness is gone and the animation is fluid and expressive. The style is completely different than in the super anime and most of the animators are also different.
@Joe Dirt oh so you are one of those, the movie had a different artstyle so it wasn't the same as the super series it was more fluid also the characters felt more alive for me, also cgi was only used three times when goku went ssb and fought broly and, broly transformed the region into hell, and when gogeta and broly went to another dimension and even tho i don't like cgi that much it has largely improved, in the two previous movies resurrection of frieza and battle of gods weird af so i'm grateful for that, even tho it has some flaws new broly movie > any other broly movie in the animation, the artstyle, the fight wasn't one sided until gogeta went blue
I never knew the super sayain bargin sale joke was also in the sub. That’s really interesting, I wonder how they able to translate it that well in English
Yeah, it's literally "bargain sale" in loan-english.
That joke might have been the easiest one to translate in the whole series cause it’s literally in English already.
well it's in the manga, so ofc, i'm actually surprised it's in og z's dub considering they didn't care about accuracy back then
She likes Dragon Ball? Someone get her on the FighterZ game. We’ve seen her tenacity on smash, Id love to see her get competitive in other fighting games.
I don't like FighterZ, but man I would pay to watch Marine get super competitive
@@ravenpines Tbh theres alot of untapped potential with the HL members playing any fighting game, especially with each other. Here’s to hoping one of them introduces the genre to the rest.
I bet she was reading the manga as it came out
@@kizunahenta.1759 Oof
I have some ideas for a hololive fighting game, I think that Marine will play like Gia Moran from PR:BFTG mixed with Ruby Heart from MvsC2
That Dragon Ball explanation done through sound effects was the best fucking thing I've ever heard lmao
Marine is the best. I like her more and more with every video I see of her. I especially appreciate all these just chatting translations. Based, dope and most definitely SUPPALITO
2:33
Lol Luna simps Vegeta and Marine simps Piccolo. They should do a drawing collab of the Two for each other.
She'd smack Luna
Which would be fun to watch
Is there a clip of Luna simping for Vegeta? Watching these girls talk about characters they like is interesting.
@@mollz3704 Here ya go ua-cam.com/video/XJPTcFby9r4/v-deo.html Then there’s Okayu with Broly ua-cam.com/video/L5OgdMxKXy4/v-deo.html
I wish she would do a drawing collab with the more artistically gifted Holomem in a format similar to "Slightly Artistic".
@@The_Broken_Monarch_Ch thanks!!!
Everyone has a reason to like or dislike Dragon Ball, but it's nice that some people might find enjoyment of the show one way or another.
And yes Piccolo is a really good choice, and those scenes of him are great.
But we all know Vegeta is the best.
@@bigenson18 Fuck no.
@@bigenson18 maybe in abriged
oh wait nappa exists
The funny thing is that _Dragon Ball_ is the best series, and in _Dragon Ball,_ Piccolo is literally the end boss
@@Thy_Boss Crazy to think that at the time we thought Goku was just some weird monkey human and Piccolo was a demon. I can’t watch OG Dragon Ball, look at either King Piccolo or Piccolo Jr., and say that they’re demons 😂
There’s a funny little tidbit in the anime that’s accidental foreshadowing for Goku being a saiyan, actually. When Goku was fighting a robot, the robot tried to scan him and the species specs came up as Goku being an alien. Ofc it was probably played for comedic effect as like a “haha he thinks he’s an alien, silly robot”…how wrong we were.
Senchou has extremely based action anime taste, you love to see it.
Yes, catchphrase catchphrase, catchphrase catchphrase catchphrase. Internet catchphrase
It's funny how DB discourse is pretty much the same over there as it is over here. I've heard and participated in this exact same conversation more than once before lol
marine: **copies goku's dying sound**
subaru: no that's not how you do it. it's like this: **duck sounds**
I can't call these subs Shabby if they can keep up with Marine's culture class.
When she says that watching them go SSJ resonates with boys she's exactly right. DBZ isn't that great of a story but watching it as a young boy it activates every neuron in your brain.
I kinda wanna pet Marine......
Lol do you mean you want to pet Marine? Or you want a pet Marine? Both are totally understandable.
Same, both ways...
@@redskared8093 definitely both
Marine is a woman of culture, has a contagious laugh that we enjoy listening to, provides great material with everybody she collabs and her horniness level is over 9000. I'd love to be real friends with her or a person just like her, there'd be no boredom around.
2:40 "Insert Subaru's voice" here
I just want to say, I appreciate there not being some dumb intro with an overbearing peep peep sound effect and the ending card being just as long as it needs to be to accomendate those crappy youtube-ad cards and also not having some useless sound as well, making this a prime example of a good, "go to sleep" playlistable video. Even being decent length to boot. Thanks.
Isn't it nice when a translator knows the first rule of translation is to render yourself invisible? Very professional behavior
Can see that Marine is actually a dragon ball lover, she got every detail right im actually surprised
Damn straight, because the best series in Dragon Ball is _Dragon Ball_ where Marine's favorite is literally the end boss
she said piccolo is a better dad than goku so not everything
Nice! A rare pikkoro stan! One of the coolest characters in db
Rare? Doesn't everyone agree on that Piccolo is one of the best characters in DB?
@@ImmortalXUchiha Yes
@@ImmortalXUchihadefinitely, especially four star fandub one has shown how best he is.
I mean the OG also great too both Z and super kinda with super here
2:36 Saving this for myself for future reference
her impression of the anime fights killed me lol. _myum myum myum myum_
nice szs endcard
thanks for translations, Shabby
good editing, helped to recall every scene with the images
Shabbysubz is on the fast track to becoming the best subber around.
thank you for the translation!
Reason #(i have lost count) of why we love her.
Patrician taste. Even amongst scenes of a very popular show. Truly patrician.
When I heard animax, I got a whole anime flashback, rip animax india
The eye tracking on Live2D has improved a lot recently. The way Senchou's eyes move around as she thinks felt very natural
Remember when piccolo used his arm stretching in battles
He does in the current manga when he gets fights.
I would hope everyone remembers _Dragon Ball,_ the best series in the franchise
he used it in super and super hero
An SSJ bargain sale 🤣I feel I could talk to her for a whole evening over drinks and not get bored a single second
16's final scene is my favorite in the show, but in general I just like 16 a lot so that's also a factor.
8+ minutes, hard work, good work
She's a manga patrician
The best fight in dbz was piccolo vs 17.
Maybe yeah, because it leads into the point where Android 17 pulls a Piccolo himself and does a heel-face turn, specifically because the last thing Piccolo does is tell 17 to run, then 17 watches Cell slaughter Piccolo and he's like, _Wow that looks pretty bad from an outside perspective_
@@Blank-s ok
"Haha you're finished....after I charge this special attack for 10 episodes. myom myom myom myom"
goku and piccolo getting drivers licenses is the best, that guy has top tier taste
it's why _Dragon Ball_ is better than _Dragon Ball Z_ and every other series in the franchise, because it's an entire series that's like that type of _Z_ episode
3:48 Of course we can rely on your reference note. Much appreciated.
That one guy in chat : Who's Goten
Don't forget. She may not have Goku in her rankings, but she still sides with not giving Yamcha a senzu so Goku could give it to Cell.
Sasuga Senchou.
So they had animax in japan. I thought it was just a overseas tv channel
I'm glad she explained why Dragon Ball is not just mindless battles. And yeah the anime does kind of mess up the pacing sometimes.
loool the dbz edits killed me
Man I WISH Marine knew English just to watch Dragonball abridged. She'd love it
Even Senchou recognizes that Piccolo is Gohan's parent.
Not too shabby...
I agree, Piccolo's best moments are when he's raising other people's kids for them
So cultured. Her choices are very particular too.
Of course Marine dislikes mindless fight scenes, Nen fights are on a whole other level of complex!
When the dog got shot. XD
Good lord that was almost about to be so out of context-! XD
maririn likes scenes where piccolo is being a good dad lol
Excellent, someone else who recognizes that Piccolo was Gohan's real dad.
I think in the beginning when talking about Inuyasha she might've actually said 半血 instead of 半月 maybe? Don't know anything about that franchise so may well be I'm wrong but that'd make a bit more sense to me
So, basically, Marine is a true DB fan cause she knows the best parts aren't really the fights (though some fights are pretty nice ofc, like in the new Broly movie).
Also, the dude who said the driver's license episode is the best is correct. But the baseball episode of DBS is a serious contender.
Yeah, the fight scene in the new Broly movie is amazing but to be honest I prefer the non-canon Broly character design more. The baseball episode in DBS is quite funny especially the throwback to Yamcha unsightly pose😂
The best part of Dragon Ball is _Dragon Ball,_ with nothing added to the end of the name
6:27 ah yes, when the dog gets shot, my favorite 😂
Marine is so relatable. I would do a fusion with her to become super otaku any day.
alright, time to rewatch Cell and Majin Buu arcs
2:42 this is more like a Toei bad habit xD
Nyom nyom nyom nyom...
She described most overhyped battle shounens so well.
Marine’s got good taste.
Senchou the anime battle connoisseur
I could listen to Marine talking all day long
Everyone share their DBZ favs so I will
My favs 1 :
-Krilin got kissed by Android17
-Gohan shakes the whole building by stomping her legs when he worried about his wife's safety
-The same scene where Majin Buu saves that dog
I think mr Satan is kind of a cool character.
So basically she likes anime where there’s alot of inner dialogue or the narrator explaining things as they happen
Yes the doctor-
I mean Gohan's dad-
I mean Piccolo is great
Marin is a priceless woman indeed
Tien was my favourite. Dude was a fucking 4 armed, 3 eyed freak i loved it
Another instance where _Dragon Ball_ was better than _Z_ or any other series in the entire franchise
She knows the truth, Piccolo is the real father
marine has taste
I wonder how Marine would feel about Super Hero, *the* Gohan and Piccolo movie.
Dragon ball fights have purpose and meaning behind them
You're right, _Dragon Ball_ fights do, because _Dragon Ball_ is better than every other series in the franchise including _Z,_ exactly because it's an entire series that resembles the Goku/Piccolo driving school episode
Piccolo is best dad/uncle.
Her favorite character is Piccolo? The patrician's choice. She's a cultured anime pirate.
Goku mostly uses the tractor rather than a car anyway lol
I can't believe she never mentions Mr. Popo, our one and only God
truly cultured, we need more love for best boys gohan and piccolo
Missed opportunity to put duck on the Goku part :(
Ahh, no había duda que a Marine le gusta el Pico ro
Just use your Kai-ou-whatever.
Piccolo supremacist and Vegeta understander.
Can she get any better from here?
My favotire scenes
1 Future trunks debut
2 GT ending
3 namek explodes
4 roshi vs goku when the theme song kicks in
5 picoloo sacrifice
6 cell introduction
7 goku ssj transformation
8 the goku/bulma reutining scene after the time skip
9 genkidama vs kid buu when the theme kicks in
10 ultra instinc kamehame vs kefla
Sasuga Senchou and her impeccable taste
Wowww, Senchou was not moved at all when Krillin died, resulting in Goku's Super Saiyan transformation?
She has a fair point. People get so mad at Dragon Ball because of how slow the anime was at times, but the manga really doesn’t have that problem. 🤔 And as nostalgic as I am for the Dragon Ball anime, as well as the sound effects that came with is, I gotta admit that pacing was rough at times. 5 minutes on Namek, my ass.
The manga had better artwork too. I mean I still remember how Android 16 got smashed in the manga. Compared to anime which is... meh.
So Mr. Satan was his real name. In my country his name was changed to 'Master Pogi'. (Slang for handsome) Makes sense lol, tho I hated him on sight coz my young self thought "Who gets a name like that? Arrogant prick."
My favourite character of all dragon ball is piccoro too. The development he went from trying to follow his father goals and kill goku in the original dragon ball to become one of the heroes of the earth is awesome. Too bad the saiyayins get all the spotlight
I bet she would like dbz abridged once she's more confident in her English.
Ah yes, Gohan's dad
Marine is great. She's not a normie
Lol basically any property that got touched by toei it got slower.
Marine likes JJK? I like Marine now
Sencho must be at least in her 30s now because she remember Dragon Ball was broadcasted by Animax. I'm from SEA region and still remember Dragon Ball was very popular in my middle school and highschool. I believe they have Dragon Ball when I'm in elementary school too but I wasn't interested back then. If Sencho is 20 or less years old then when Animax broadcast Dragon Ball, she would not even in elementary school yet.
goku and picollo driving school, one of the best filler episodes to date xD
Filler? It's one of those rare times that _Dragon Ball Z_ got back to what was good about _Dragon Ball_ and immediately improved as a result
Senshou pretty much just said, “The manga is better.” 😂 She’s right and I don’t know how people would recommend the DBZ anime instead of reading the manga or watching Kai which is the anime paced better.
bc manga is CANON
Anime has CANON/FILLER
they rewrite the story n different characters
Luna likes Vegeta and Marine likes Piccolo, I see that they are women of culture.
i missed watching animax since my dad doesn't pay the provider billings :(
Lads, let me tell u all this. If you find a woman who is into Dragon Ball Z, prefer the manga over the anime, you should marry her and bring her home to treasure for life. I know I would.
what about vegeta's speech during gokus and kid buus fight
No matter how much people like DBZ... Goku is rarely a preferred character. Poor him being written so simplistically.
Hes just there to move the plot and by that I mean fight, but because he gets all screen time and power ups he rarely gets interesting characteristics, honestly end of Z Goku and some of the older movies it was pretty epic when he took something seriously.
But thats why I love Vegeta, all the character development + all the hair dyes at the small price of always losing...
It's the same reason I don't care for Luffy. Neither of them feel like people. It's just "I like to fight and eat," with the both of them.
Honestly the "bad father" thing had a lot of untapped potential. As Marine said, that scene in which Piccolo points out how Goku's basically torturing his son to prove how strong he can become is great because it takes Goku's simplistic and narrow view of life and shows how badly can affect the ones around him, but it was never really further developed, either because Toriyama didn't want or know how to do it or because the publisher had a say in it (which wouldn't be really surprising, as Toriyama planned to end DB at the Frieza arc).
I mean, Gon from HxH is pretty much the same character - Big Eats Big Fights Lots Friends - , only difference being, when his narrow pov clashes with reality, he goes on a suicidal/murderous rampage, caves in the skull of his enemy, loses his best friend, his innocence, and gets pretty much written out of the story. He probably doesn't staight up die just because it would be too dark to kill your child MC in a Shonen Jump story, but the sentiment is the same.
That's just not true, Goku won 2 out of 3 official popularity polls in Japan, only losing to Gohan near the end of the Cell games
goku is also a fan favorite world wide, he is written as "simplistic" as the rest of the cast, most of his character progression happens in the original dragon ball and is not until the majin buu saga that he becomes stale as a character.