I have never even played pvp before today. I am a pve skrublord. I have only been playing eso 1 month. I watched this video, pulled an all night bender making this exact character and went into my first bg just now. Top damage, most kills, least deaths. And honestly, i was running around like a douche spamming everything with no skill. This is absolutely disgusting, thanks bro :)
I have been running this build through it's paces since you dropped this video. It is capable of speed running Vet Vateshran flawlessly and Vet Maelstrom flawlessly too!
I put this together as a purple gear build to test on my new night blade. I don't even have my skills all morphed and it was still fantastic. You do a great job of figuring out builds that really work.
Probably one of my favorite comments today, Willie. Thank you for coming back and letting me know. This is good stuff and thank you for the kind words! 🙏
Dooma you’re a freaking genius! I don’t know how you would’ve come up with this build but I will tell you this it works! It took me about 5 to 7 BGs to get kind of the feel of it but once I did, I was killing everything it was a blast. I stayed up till about 3 o’clock in the morning cause I could not stop killing people you’ve created a monster and a fan for life. Great job so much in fact I just joined your PATREON at the PRO Level! 😊❤🎉🎉 ❤😊
😂 Love this comment! I know exactly that feeling and I am so glad this build did that for you. Awesome stuff over there and THANK YOU for the Patreon tier change! 🙏🙏🙏
Oof. I'll be honest, there is no way for me to make that grind sound fun lol. It's just something you do with Netflix on a side monitor and a huge frown the whole time. 😅
Hi 7Jers3y2 and thank you! Check out my response to Jorgenboi in the comments. His profile pic is a blue background and the letter J to help find it quicker.
OK confession.......I just recently tried some other 3 Proc attack sets, 2 bar builds, 2 hander builds, bomber builds and spent a TON of gold, time and transmute crystals to COME RIGHT BACK to this build. If there is a improved version of this and I missed it please point that out......but finally respectable numbers return in BGs and I'm a total pain in the ass in Cyrodiil.....plus with little to no change I can 4 man dungeon DPS for my daily XP Grind. Ok I new it was a Fantastic build.....but now I am not sure there is anything better..... Great job you know I am a fan keep em coming Dooma
Ayyyy I love to hear it haha, that's good stuff. I'm really glad you are both enjoying the build and crushing with it. 💪 I am kind of having the same experience myself with the Arcanist version with a few small changes. It's been putting in work in these new BGs. I appreciate the comment buddy, made my day. 🙏
I find dodge rolling toward the person, getting behind them and hitting them in the back also a good method, most people don't pivot fast enough to respond.
Fair play, mate. Just threw together some blues/purples, mixed traits, no enchants and no psijic and not only did I have a great k/d, I got the most kills I ever have in one round. Time to start grinding portals
I did some small changes to it, but this build absolutely dominates BGs. Still having problems with Cyrodiil as majority are 40K health, but boy is it fun to be the dominator in BGs! Thanks for this build, made me enjoy ESO much more.
I want to point out something important about Crushing/Elemental Weapon. When using it with ranged attacks, if the attack is still in the air or just hitting your target when you activate the ability, the attack will get the ability proc.
Thank you Nick. I added it to the pinned comment right after posting as well. I realized I explained it a bit poorly in the vid, or left some out. It has to do with light weaving speed. If you parse quickly normally, you will get the bonus damage on the opening LA, so it does alter how some combo's roll out if you are moving quick. Great comment, thank you!
Okay this is nuts, insane, awesome! First BG with it, 24 kills, 8 assists, 0 deaths. Gave my first char a wood elf NB crafter new life. Went with the heavy+reinforced chest, light for monster helm based on the Jorgen thread. I also went no stealth. I'm stunned how well this worked! Sustain was good even when roll dodging like crazy. Once I was out of dodge I got back to full resources super fast and then back on the offensive! Forgot to mention I forgot poison and my dawnguard wasn't even "merciless" because I need to level it up and morph it lol
There's a crafted set called karth, I made it and using it with sheer venom and seems like it procs more often and breaks people down with dot and burst.
Love the build. I'm having a blast with it in BGs. I tried out Crushing Weapon, but couldn't wrap my brain around it. I use a scribed skill, Sundering Soul, as a substitute. It's Wield Soul with physical damage + lingering + major breach. The major breach helps a lot and I also get another DOT out of it. I might give Crushing Weapon another try in the future, but sundering soul works for me for now.
Hi there! Super late response, apologies. Catching up now. If it works for you, that's ALL that matters. Great work making the build your own thing, that's what its about right there. 💪
Dooma! Omg! I absolutely suck at PvP and BG’s. I just ran my first BG with purple traited gear… I went 18-1-2 with 720k damage.. more than 2x the damage than anyone else! Thank you so much!!!!
Hi there! Super late response, apologies. Catching up now. Heyyyyyy that's awesome, you are very welcome! GREAT work and thanks so much for coming back and letting me know! 💪
Hi Ash! Since posting, I have been play testing this set up on every class, BGs and Cyro, 1 bar, and 2. I put some thoughts in discord and plan to explain everything on the next stream (looking at a bit later today, but waiting on something this morning to confirm.)
The bow burst ganks still work on 30k hp people, you just need tarnished and anthelmir. Even on a onebar Anthelmir, Tarnished and 4 piece witch knight (witch knight for wpn dmg) will shred people. Although your point of consistentcy was very valid. You have to wait until all sets are ready to be used again. After testing out this build I found you can just spam as much as you want Also other ganks shred you with that anthelmir HA build, this build is way more durable. All in all I love this build very much! Thanks Dooma!!
Awesome and you are very welcome! Thank you for the comment and apologies for the super delayed response. 🙏 I am just returning from being out from surgery.
@@oneplusoneequalstwo1523 Heyyyyy awesome, thanks so much for coming back and letting me know. This was really nice to read today, I appreciate it very much, and I am glad you are enjoying it. 🙏
@@oneplusoneequalstwo1523 You can also add this in place of vigor for a bit of an upgrade (check out the dodge roll section): ua-cam.com/video/hT4xOfl_jxE/v-deo.htmlsi=TPa1X5nfwD5MGuGD
I'm not a die hard PvPr, but I'm enjoying this build. One change I made is since my nightblade is a wood elf I didn't think I needed to use the Serpent mundus, so I picked the Thief instead for higher crit chance. It works very well. The build has a great combination of hardiness and damage. One on one I can easily beat the sweaty DKs who usually give me a hard time on other builds.
Another change I implemented was to switch the ultimate to Toxic Barrage. I feel it better fits the theme of the build, and it helps me get more kills.
Thank you for watching!Note on Crushing Weapon: If you are proficient at parsing, you will get crushing damage on the opening light attack, which will affect combos. I explained it for the experience of the average player who struggles with the weave, that I previously had mentioned. I also now see, my explanation is extremely poor in that regard as well, it was late, apologies. 😅 Spend a bit of time with it in front of a dummy and get a feel for it. Treat it like any other spammable. ➡Twitch: www.twitch.tv/the_gameroom
Dang this build is a game changer, never been really good at pvp, tried many builds to no avail... but this build changes everything... thank you so much... im not even on gold just blue and purple improvements and it's like a hot knife thru butter 👍👍
This is the best I've had so far, worst is like 7-3. If you play with your group, stick behind them, poison inject away, CW then merci proc. REPOSITION is absolutely great with this build, roll then invis, ez claps!
Thank you Dyattz! 💪 I feel you there, trust. I was very salty for an entire 48 hour weekend no sleep marathon when the Arcanist came out re-grinding everything to get it all out of the way in one shot. 😅
Hol-E-Cow, this build is *_awesome_* fun! I've had Sheer Venom on my radar for a while now, even had the set with funky traits in my bank. This has been a great excuse to dust it off! I've gotten into some solo and small group scraps in Cyro so far PvP wise, and it handles like a *_dream!_* Then I thought "Hey, lets try this in PvE!" In _real fights,_ I found this set combo (with a few skill tweaks) to be competitive with my _Pillar Relequen_ combo, like _whaat?_ So then I thought, "Fetch it, lets try a parse!" 62k, with sub-optimal enchants, traits, and un-modified CPs. On a build that _unlike_ Rele+Pillar, can target swap on the fly with _zero_ issues! I have _no doubt_ in my mind I could probably push to break 70k parsing, if I go all-in on PvE optimization. Thank you _so incredibly much_ for this build dude, it is now my _absolute FAVORITE_ PvP/PvE damage build, now! Cheers, Dooma! 🍻
Between the other comment and this one you are making my week! 😂 I'm so glad you are enjoying it so much, AND awesome work putting together your own versions of it. That's exactly what I meant by "take it and make it yours." Well done! Check out the Community Tab above, and then the post from 2 days ago. It should start with, "🔥Since posting the NB build..." it has a bit more info for the build from my play testing it on other classes, if you are interested in that as well. Thank you again so much for taking the time to share your thoughts on the build! 🙏
I wonder if three bloodthirsty jewels would be better than three infused. Seems like bloodthirsty might help ramp up the executes from sheer venom and poison injection, but the healing would be worse.
Hi Turbo! Better may be a relative term here. If you are super proficient and on it with positioning, bt could be better, especially if you don't mind dying a bit more often. For most other circumstances, Infused is going to be more ideal most likely. Plus, no matter how good you are, no matter what build you play, every single person gets in tough trouble moments where they barely make it. In those moments, infused may be what pushes you over the line for living. It's a bow build, with 1 bar, using double damage sets, and mostly dps cp, while running health below 30k and playing in melee with optional stealth. You have to make some sacrifices in the set up to stay alive through all that. All that said, if you are running around in groups and have a solid healer, then bt may be great, however, I didnt test it out at all, so this is all hypothetical just from experience. Great question, thank you!
I think I read somewhere that when update 43 drops, Way of the Fire will no longer keep intermittently pulling you out of stealth. I've been rolling WotF on just about every bow build I've played in the last 3 or 4 years, and that stealth bug has driven me CRAZY! xD
I ended up trying it on all the classes and spent a bit of stream time sharing all the set ups. I settled with Sorcerer as my next version for the build and have been playing it as my own pvp build. It's been quite a lot of fun!
Thank you Spidey, I hope you enjoy it! Check out my response to Jorgenboi here in the comments. His profile pic is blue with a white “J” to find it a little easier.
Was just getting pumped by this build. I could drop the guy very fast if I caught him, just had to actually catch him first. Lots of dmg gunna give it a try. Thanks
@Dooma I miss just spamming light attacks and watching people reel from the bleeds. This has potential to do the same thing I can't wait to get home and slap this all together! Thanks again dooma!
@Dooma got it all put together and it so satisfying, I went heavy on chest and helmet cause I'm doing the no stealth version, but used the warrior mundas and heavy balorgh helmet for more damage. It's great!
I've been struggling with my arcanist to make a build that works in PVP. Beam just won't hit. I tried this today and wow. My first game (ever) went over 1mil damage. Went 7/2 with 25 assists. Thank you! (25 assists! I was robbed!)
@@BryanBrown69 me too. I found a really good guide with map markers so I finished it in about 3 days. Each step took me about 20 minutes. Had a friend help me get to zones I didn’t have yet. Very fun build.
“Merciless Dawnbreaker”. May have been a tongue slip, but THAT is a really cool sounding skill name. Imagine a Templar braining someone with a Merciless Dawnbreaker finishing move. Merciless > Smiting IMO! 👍🏾
Just looking for opinions here, i haven't had time to set it up. But how does oakensoul/anthlemir's construct/virulent shot/ sheer venom/two pieces of potentates. Sound? Heavy into magnum into poison inject. Thats a burst, two dots, a CC and an execute pretty fast.
Ill be honest, that is a rough one to make sense of on paper. It may be awesome, it may be terrible. My general rule is its always best to try anything once!
Any suggestion of a replacement skill for crushing. Sorta a cop out but I really don’t want to grind the psijic skill line as my one hour a day after work lol
@@Dooma yeah I just sucked it up and grinded the skill anyway. Another question tho, I can’t solo imperial city for Sheer Venom and can’t find a group. You think Syvarra would be a decent replacement till I can somehow get it?
Ah man that is a bummer. Honesty I don’t think it’s the greatest fit (it could be though!). It’s proc doesn’t say “per target” it says “every x seconds.” Vs sheer that says “every x seconds per target.” So this limits your ability to multi dot targets with the same play style. It’s also difficult to maintain an only 6 second second dot on 1 target, from ranged, in the middle of team fights. I think you’ll constantly lose pressure and be frustrated a lot. On paper anyway. I really hope you can farm Sheer soon because it really does fit in the set up like magic. Syncs up perfect.
I personally don't prefer smite because it only procs on one target, once per 15 seconds vs. sheer venom is on every target, all the time, as long as you have poison inject rolling on them. Inject lasts 20 seconds, so that's 20 seconds of double dots (plus rng poisoned status effects) on every target around you that you roll Inject on. Smite is one single target for 10 seconds. WoF is also a very strong damage source when focusing down a single target. Smite is decent when teams are grouped up and turtled up constantly, so that may be a great set to swap to mid game if you end up in one of those turtle games. Just from my own experience from what I can remember, fairly often WoF and/or Sheer is in my death logs, whereas I dont remember the last year I've seen venomous in there. Im sure it has been here and there, but I feel the other 2 sets outperform it fairly easily (outside the specific windows of getting most of the 10s duration on lots of grouped up players).
Haha awesome love to hear it. 5-6 WF is super slept on for some builds. Been trying to spread it for a while now. It’s not for everyone but if it fits your play style where you abuse rolls non-stop, and you know when to roll, it’s like magic.
Hi there! This was made just before Scribing launched. I do currently use Contingency on almost every build I play now (including this one). I put out this video explaining it a bit for everyone: ua-cam.com/video/hT4xOfl_jxE/v-deo.html&t You probably saw that one though if you made this comment haha, I just wanted to make sure. It's a game changer for sure.
Hi there! Super late response, apologies. Catching up now. For this specific set up, and while leaning heavy on dodge roll game play, I recommend heavy Way of Fire chest in reinforced, and then 6 well-fitted.
Love this build! I even soloed some pve bosses and arenas with it. If I choose siphoning instead of shadow disguise, is vampire stage still necessary? It seems that I cannot benefit from vampire passive with those skills. Thank you!
Awesome, I am glad you are enjoying the build, it's one of my favorites! Legitimately and only reason we are a vamp on this build is for the Dark Stalker and Strike from the Shadows passives, which both have to do with stealth/sneak. If you arent using stealth at all, you can totally drop vamp and you will end up with better sustain as well.
Thank you, I appreciate that! It's still g2g, just played it haha. It's also on a few other builds on the channel now as well. The Sorc version is my favorite: ua-cam.com/video/w93WiRmocSE/v-deo.html&t
Haha awesome, I may or may not as well on the Warden. 😂 Thank you for the comment and apologies for the super delayed response. 🙏 I am just returning from being out from surgery.
Hi there! Not all 1 bar builds are better (for everyone) than the 2 bar version. There are (many) players who's performance shoot up with certain kits when used as 1 bar. Not all of them work that way, but this is definitely one of those examples. Due to the almost 100% uptime and zero back bar buff cycling, you can be much more aggressive, for more periods of time, with minimal utility/defense loss (if any at all), when used in the aggressive dodge roll way I explained. We bandaid much of our defensive loss with stacking well fitted and abusing dodge rolls, but that is also not a play style that works for everyone. Some people it clicks with and they are able to find ways to dominate, some people just never quite get it down and assume it's "trash" because they sit in death logs most of the time from trying to play the build like a Magden. It's a high mobility non stop run and gun build. When played properly and in that way, you (may) find it preforms better with 1 bar, as a chunk of the back bar will be just making up what you already have from Oakensoul which you lose down time cycling bars for. Again, very few set ups work like this. This isnt a universal thing at all. Most set ups will have a 2 bar counterpart with a bit higher ceiling, some with a much higher ceiling. I am not saying that is not the case here, but I am saying this is one of those examples where the 1 bar version, when played correctly, is right there on the heels of the 2 bar version in terms of effectiveness, for the builds intended play style. That whole take away there is "when played correctly." Some people just don't jive with that play style, and thats totally cool, theres a million ways to do it in ESO. Im habitually a terrible stamplar even during patches when they are only a few buttons and op. Regarding specific changes, I would need a good bit of play time to work it all out for what is most efficient. Check out #6 here for a bit of context: www.thegameroom.tv/build-faq
Hi Jorgen! With Fire Bow and Tri Enchants alone, this build is expensive to put together (considering nothing else). Then you need to run 2x poisons and tri pots to play it, which can be very expensive. I try, within reason, to make things as accessible as possible. When I looked chests were really expensive and bows with proper traits are ridiculous. I knew this video would likely increase all those prices to some degree and I didn't want people sitting this one out, for the sake of a tiny bit more survivability. I was actually pulling it up on TTC to link it to you, and I see now, it is wildly different from when I looked a few weeks+ ago. I think what may have happened, is I am just so conditioned to using reinf. heavy chests, I must have not looked at well-fitted chests, because they are crazy cheap rn. That said, reinf. is also really cheap rn as well. I have personally picked up a few chests to have that option as well for min maxing that I am going to discuss in the next video (1 and 2 bar Stamsorc). TLDR: def swap shoulders for chest. I'd even consider running it reinforced. I have 4 now. Divine, Well Fitted, Impen., and Reinf.
@@Dooma Thanks a bunch for elaborating - your reasoning about pricing makes total sense. I just happened to drop a reinforced chest before commenting, so I figured I’d double check if there were any other reasons I was missing👌🏻 Thanks for the awesome work you put in and builds you put out, I’ll check out your stream vod later to see results of play testing other classes
Hey there Lewis, thank you and you are very welcome! You definitely can use a Wood Elf but the Shadow Mundus would depend on if you can sustain it. It’s probably going to be a little tough, especially if you are abusing dodge rolls. I would try it out for a game or two. If you find yourself always out of stamina, swap back to Serpent.
Hi Roman! Since posting, I have been play testing this set up on every class, BGs and Cyro, 1 bar, and 2. I put some thoughts in discord and plan to explain everything on the next stream (looking at a bit later today, but waiting on something this morning to confirm.)
I check in now and again to see how the state of the game is. Not played for a while as i hate the tanky meta. But Sheer Venom is one of my most favourite sets on this game. This still viable now? Did Way of the Fire get the nerf you thought? Looks tempting to return and try this. Ill have to join your discord because id love to eventually see if making this a 2 bar build would be even stronger. Great stuff man!
Hi there! This build still works the same and is now on a few other classes on the channel as well. This one here being my favorite: ua-cam.com/video/w93WiRmocSE/v-deo.html Welcome back to ESO as well if you return! 💪
Since posting, I have been play testing this set up on every class, BGs and Cyro, 1 bar, and 2. I put some thoughts in discord and plan to explain everything on the next stream (looking at a bit later today, but waiting on something this morning to confirm.)
Hi There! For this build and it's play style Sheer Venom is going to work better when used in the way described in the video. Syvarras is great on certain set ups like this one if you can push you weapon damage high enough in your build for a decent enough tool tip: ua-cam.com/video/HiaVds_pmRQ/v-deo.html
Thank you Uchiha! 🙏 Since posting, I have been play testing this set up on every class, BGs and Cyro, 1 bar, and 2. I put some thoughts in discord and plan to explain everything on the next stream (looking at a bit later today, but waiting on something this morning to confirm.)
I noticed that you have the one heavy piece on the shoulders instead of the (bigger) chest? Would you get a little better resistance with the chest? Or is there a drawback I’m not seeing? Thanks!
Def used heavy chest! There are a few convos here in the comments where we talked about it. I tried to save the cost to players, wrongly assuming the chests were super expensive, but they are actually very cheap right now (or they were a few weeks ago). So I picked up a heavy chest in all the relevant traits. I go back and forth between reinforced and well fitted personally.
Hey ya !! Do you find ithis still valid for update 43 or would you put a scribbing heal or something in there? Also, do you feel a 2 bar version using left handers would work, if you load your bb up with concealed wpn, siphoning atks, flare for the 10% dam recduct, and maybe a burst heal or race against time or refreshing path?
Hi there! I use a specific scribing ability on every one of my set ups now, PvP and PvE. For PvP it replaces vigor. Here is a short explanation over it (it's not super obvious on the tool tip what it can do. Specifically, check out the dodge roll section): ua-cam.com/video/hT4xOfl_jxE/v-deo.html&t I didn't like the 2 bar version of this set up much. With the super rolly-polly game play and constant uptime and pressure, the down time from back bar buff cycling slowed the pace way down for me. This is one of those rare builds where I feel works better, or at least right in line, with a 2 bar counterpart.
@@Dooma awesome, thanks! I was using a similar build but was WoF and Venomous smite. Looking forward to trying this one. Im always up in their faces with a bow, its like im on a bowgank, but playing like a brawler.
@@nokmuay1970 Haha that's exactly it and you are very welcome! Had I thought of that for the video I would have used that exact phrase: "It's like im on a bowgank, but playing like a brawler." That's exactly what it feels like when abusing dodge rolls, especially with contingency haha. I ended up adding the build to 2 other classes on the channel as well: Sorcerer and Arcanist. Sorcerer ended up being my favorite and I rounded that one out to a 2 bar build as well. It's a fun set up for sure.
Welcome to ESO Callum! Did you watch the whole video? I ask because I explain what you are asking in depth including showing it in slo-mo: 12:06. I suggest re-watching that whole section that goes over skills and their uses because there is a bit of info in there as well that may help.
Love this build, it's super fun to use in BG's and cyrodiil. I was wondering, though, how good would the build be if you replaced the bow for The Master's Bow?
Awesome! I'm not sure honestly. It would require you shifting other things around as its going to take up an extra slot. So youll end up dropping something else to make room. In that context, I dont really see it worth it (on this specific set up, while keeping it 1 bar), but you never know until you try!
Cool build. But why Heavy shoulders and Medium chest? Does it have any advantages comparing to Heavy chest and medium shoulders? I thought puting heavy body pieces just gives more armor... is there any other difference?
Cheeks. Dodge roll 🤌🏼. But, check out my response to Jorgenboi here in the comments about reinf. His profile pic is blue with the letter J to find it easier.
Hi, great build, I will test ist today 😎, but there's one thing I don't understand. You recommend Vampire Stage 2, but then you don't use a invisibility-skill?
Oh yea tons of sets. But I am not sure if there are others that will work exactly like it is here. To press 1 button and apply 2 damage sets plus a dot that scales to 120% with 1 button, is (very) busted for the game. I don't see it lasting indef.
Hi there! Super late response, apologies. Catching up now. I have draugrkin on a few other bow builds that did super well, so I am sure it can work well. I think better vs. worse would depend on who is playing it honestly due to the healing penalty, but it definitely should bring more team/map pressure than WoF.
Hi Blast, thank you! You are totally correct. Check out "Jorgenboi"'s comment and my response here in the comment. (His profile pic is blue with a white "J" to find it faster.)
@@Dooma Ok ty, I just wanted it make sure I wasn't missing somthing. Lol I put the build together to try out. I'll let you know how I do and if I make any changes. :)
The green tree for CP doesnt have any combat related functions other than rationer and liquid efficiency to save some gold and you are looking at the pve build. Under PVP - BOW this build matches on the website.
I’m really not sure. My best guess is the top end of Inject is coded as an execute for it's function like the back end maybe? That’s one of the reasons I said something like “I kind of feel this shouldn’t be working like this.” It may not even technically be an “issue” necessarily with wrong coding, that could be intentional and it’s just an extremely potent combo of 2 sets + inject. Either way, I cannot imagine this stays in the game indefinitely, especially as it starts to spread around (it’s already in a high % of my death logs now lol). It’s clearly an outlier for damage output for sure. Or, maybe it does and u42 is about to be wild.😂 Edit: Doesn't look like the top half numbers indicate any sort of execute scaling. TOP: = 3470 Poison Damage = 0.015495 MaxStat + 0.16270 MaxDamage Ultimate (Damage/Tick), R2 = 1, Ratio = 10.50 Poison Damage, Single Target, DOT Duration: 18 secs, Delay: 2 secs, Tick: 2 secs Base Value = 347 x 10 Ticks = 3470 Overall BOTTOM: = 120 Constant (Derived %) Base Value = 120 (unmodified)
With the Sheer Venom set it says you need to use an execute ability but i dont see one on your bar. Is this one of those situations where it still procs anyway?
Hi there! There is a few comments here where we had some back-and-forths over it if you are interested in the info there. I even dug as far into the math as I could with it and shared that as well. The tldr is, nobody really knows lol. My speculation is that the whole ability is coded as an execute due to its damage scaling, which keeps venom proccing along for it's duration.
Great build! Just curious, with the new scribing system, there are some other ways to get major breach. Have you tried any of those options rather than crushing?
Hi Dennis, thank you! I have but I didnt like what I had access to really. Ive been play testing existing and new builds on stream, adding scribing skills as well. Thats during weekdays on twitch if you are interested there. Once I have some content piled up, I am going to swing back over to UA-cam and put out a bunch of new and updated set ups for everyone. But if you want them early, I am showing the play testing live over on twitch for people.
Love to hear it! Here is the honest truth that some sweats hate to read. There are some builds like this, where having it on 1 bar is "better" for some people because you keep the same output (or very close), with less buff cycling time, especially if it fits your play style. It is a very small % of builds that can do that, but on the right build, you can end up having the same output (or very very close) due to being able to stay aggressive more, with less back bar and buff cycling, gaining all the buffs the 2 bar is cycling for, from Oakensoul. (I am NOT saying 1 bar is superior at all. 99.9% of times, that's not the case. I am saying there certain (very few) builds, when played correctly, can be as close as you can get to touching the heels of a 2 bar version, if not right there. This one is one of them to me: ua-cam.com/video/V042mCoTejY/v-deo.html and you can arguably put this one (NB) in the same category, in proficient players hands who really understands how to play the rolly-polly play style and not just arbitrarily rolling around for fun.) Also, before someone (not you haha) blows a sinus speed responding about builds, I am specifically comparing a build to IT'S specific 2 bar counterpart. Not comparing it to OTHER builds such as the Meta Arc/DKs/Wardens etc., who in equally skilled hands, you should never be able to take down with this set up without major mistakes from their end. It's a David and Goliath situation, without the miracle. They should be able to just turtle up and los you indef. until you get tired of messing with them. There are levels to the levels, even with builds. But, game knowledge and the right build, will allow you to take a lesser build on paper, and outperform a better one.
@@Dooma Yeah I know exactly what you mean, I was testing 2 bar and 1 bar yesterday and it's much easier to play with the 1 bar setup! I tried the 2 bar version buffing with rallying cry and stuff on the back bar etc. but it came out damage wise as you said, really similar! I have also tried Venomous in replacement of Way of Fire, and it's also disgusting! The Dot's can proc Venomous randomly on people and it seems to really hurt them!
Haha awesome, I'm glad you got to see that exactly in action. That's it right there. You are the second person I think who has said now they are pairing venomous with sheer. I am going to have to check that out. Thank you for the reminder!
Is this build better for BG’s? I tried this in cyrodil and I got destroyed. The dots would do damage but not enough, plus I was getting near one shotted.
It may just be a play style thing. Might not vibe with you well. I’ve always been awful at stamplar pvp even when it was op and very straight forward. Just never felt it and never worked for me.
This build is very fun id hate to be on the receiving end of it lol- the crushing weapon is tricky sometimes but other than that pretty solid.. using divines currently do you think roll dodge is that much better than the extra mundus? Switching between lovers and serpent atm
Awesome, I am glad you are enjoying it! Roll dodge is sort of the core of the defense here. There’s very little actual mitigation. Abusing the dodge roll will go a long way in keeping your health bar full. Likewise running the well fitted traits will make the dodge roll stam consumption exponentially less over time, allowing for more damage spam. See my response to Jorgenboi’s questions here in the comments for a small update on traits. His profile pic is blue with a white “J” to help find it faster.
Right? When I saw the damage ticking on the dummy for the first time I said “hoooooold on a second, what’s going on here?!” 😂 I still think there is a ton of more potential here. I am going to be messing with this for a while. If nothing comes in u42, this is going to be around for a little bit. Unless it’s breaking some sort of rule set for a hot fix. If I were to just pull a guess out of thin air, it may be either an unintended/unexpected performance with Inject carrying both sets for the full duration. Or there is a lot more we have still yet to uncover with buildcraft. Every time I think the last onion later was peeled off, there’s a whole new onion lol. And now we have scribing coming soon where we can alter our abilities with new effects. >heavy breathing meme.gif
I have never even played pvp before today. I am a pve skrublord. I have only been playing eso 1 month. I watched this video, pulled an all night bender making this exact character and went into my first bg just now. Top damage, most kills, least deaths. And honestly, i was running around like a douche spamming everything with no skill. This is absolutely disgusting, thanks bro :)
And we have a new pin. Amazing job Roman! 🏆
@@Dooma haha thanks man, I'm having so much fun with this!
Roman it’s guys like you that bring me joy. I once was a pve nerd but then I went to the dark side. Please don’t stop making pvp builds
@na8522 I've been playing BG's and Cyrodil non stop since making this yesterday. There's no going back now :)
😂 i’m still grinding this damn psijic skill line I’m 6/10 three days in
This build looks really fun. Thanks for your time in it. The music over the gameplay is fire.
Thank you Vronykah and you are very welcome! 🙏
I have been running this build through it's paces since you dropped this video. It is capable of speed running Vet Vateshran flawlessly and Vet Maelstrom flawlessly too!
Heyyyy that's awesome Andrew haha! I appreciate you coming back to let me know. Good stuff. 💪
Wow!!!
I put this together as a purple gear build to test on my new night blade. I don't even have my skills all morphed and it was still fantastic. You do a great job of figuring out builds that really work.
Probably one of my favorite comments today, Willie. Thank you for coming back and letting me know. This is good stuff and thank you for the kind words! 🙏
He really does, bro. It's a gift.
@@darkenigma3 Thank you for the kind words, Enigma. 🙏
I'd like to see more game play with this build if you ever find the time....ty for the video your good at explaining things in detail
What the state's look like?
Dooma you’re a freaking genius! I don’t know how you would’ve come up with this build but I will tell you this it works! It took me about 5 to 7 BGs to get kind of the feel of it but once I did, I was killing everything it was a blast. I stayed up till about 3 o’clock in the morning cause I could not stop killing people you’ve created a monster and a fan for life. Great job so much in fact I just joined your PATREON at the PRO Level!
😊❤🎉🎉 ❤😊
One confession, though I do not have crushing weapon, so I guess I’m about to learn how to grind that entire line 😢
😂 Love this comment! I know exactly that feeling and I am so glad this build did that for you. Awesome stuff over there and THANK YOU for the Patreon tier change! 🙏🙏🙏
Oof. I'll be honest, there is no way for me to make that grind sound fun lol. It's just something you do with Netflix on a side monitor and a huge frown the whole time. 😅
Looks like a great build. Can't wait to try. Wouldn't way of fire chest be better than shoulder? @@Dooma
Hi 7Jers3y2 and thank you! Check out my response to Jorgenboi in the comments. His profile pic is a blue background and the letter J to help find it quicker.
My man, what alot of great work.. finally someone put a build together thats got sheer venom. thanks for the work gonna try tonight.
Thank you so much J! I hope you have been enjoying it! 🙏
OK confession.......I just recently tried some other 3 Proc attack sets, 2 bar builds, 2 hander builds, bomber builds and spent a TON of gold, time and transmute crystals to COME RIGHT BACK to this build. If there is a improved version of this and I missed it please point that out......but finally respectable numbers return in BGs and I'm a total pain in the ass in Cyrodiil.....plus with little to no change I can 4 man dungeon DPS for my daily XP Grind. Ok I new it was a Fantastic build.....but now I am not sure there is anything better..... Great job you know I am a fan keep em coming Dooma
Ayyyy I love to hear it haha, that's good stuff. I'm really glad you are both enjoying the build and crushing with it. 💪 I am kind of having the same experience myself with the Arcanist version with a few small changes. It's been putting in work in these new BGs. I appreciate the comment buddy, made my day. 🙏
I find dodge rolling toward the person, getting behind them and hitting them in the back also a good method, most people don't pivot fast enough to respond.
Awesome Michelle, that's the move right there! 💪
BY Golly MR.MAGOO you've Done it AGAIN! ❤
Ive been wanting a new way to play my NightBlade. I could really go for this!
Getchya'some Cooking! 💪
Fair play, mate. Just threw together some blues/purples, mixed traits, no enchants and no psijic and not only did I have a great k/d, I got the most kills I ever have in one round. Time to start grinding portals
Heyyyyy awesome, thank you so much for coming back to let me know, love to hear it! GREAT work on your end as well. 💪
I did some small changes to it, but this build absolutely dominates BGs. Still having problems with Cyrodiil as majority are 40K health, but boy is it fun to be the dominator in BGs! Thanks for this build, made me enjoy ESO much more.
Awesome and you are very welcome!
I want to point out something important about Crushing/Elemental Weapon. When using it with ranged attacks, if the attack is still in the air or just hitting your target when you activate the ability, the attack will get the ability proc.
Thank you Nick. I added it to the pinned comment right after posting as well. I realized I explained it a bit poorly in the vid, or left some out. It has to do with light weaving speed. If you parse quickly normally, you will get the bonus damage on the opening LA, so it does alter how some combo's roll out if you are moving quick. Great comment, thank you!
Okay this is nuts, insane, awesome! First BG with it, 24 kills, 8 assists, 0 deaths. Gave my first char a wood elf NB crafter new life. Went with the heavy+reinforced chest, light for monster helm based on the Jorgen thread. I also went no stealth. I'm stunned how well this worked! Sustain was good even when roll dodging like crazy. Once I was out of dodge I got back to full resources super fast and then back on the offensive! Forgot to mention I forgot poison and my dawnguard wasn't even "merciless" because I need to level it up and morph it lol
Haha awesome, love to hear it, thank you!
There's a crafted set called karth, I made it and using it with sheer venom and seems like it procs more often and breaks people down with dot and burst.
Love the build. I'm having a blast with it in BGs.
I tried out Crushing Weapon, but couldn't wrap my brain around it. I use a scribed skill, Sundering Soul, as a substitute. It's Wield Soul with physical damage + lingering + major breach. The major breach helps a lot and I also get another DOT out of it.
I might give Crushing Weapon another try in the future, but sundering soul works for me for now.
Hi there! Super late response, apologies. Catching up now.
If it works for you, that's ALL that matters. Great work making the build your own thing, that's what its about right there. 💪
Dooma! Omg! I absolutely suck at PvP and BG’s. I just ran my first BG with purple traited gear… I went 18-1-2 with 720k damage.. more than 2x the damage than anyone else! Thank you so much!!!!
Hi there! Super late response, apologies. Catching up now.
Heyyyyyy that's awesome, you are very welcome! GREAT work and thanks so much for coming back and letting me know! 💪
@@Dooma yeah man, I run both the Bowblade and Bowcanist perfected builds and they’re wonderful! Keep those builds coming! Take care man!
@@stevebigras2217 Awesome!
Been having a blast with this build.
Awesome, I'm glad, love to hear it! 💪
Build looks great. In the vid you mentioned it could work on other classes? Arc and warden come to mind.
Hi Ash! Since posting, I have been play testing this set up on every class, BGs and Cyro, 1 bar, and 2. I put some thoughts in discord and plan to explain everything on the next stream (looking at a bit later today, but waiting on something this morning to confirm.)
The bow burst ganks still work on 30k hp people, you just need tarnished and anthelmir. Even on a onebar Anthelmir, Tarnished and 4 piece witch knight (witch knight for wpn dmg) will shred people. Although your point of consistentcy was very valid. You have to wait until all sets are ready to be used again. After testing out this build I found you can just spam as much as you want
Also other ganks shred you with that anthelmir HA build, this build is way more durable.
All in all I love this build very much! Thanks Dooma!!
Awesome and you are very welcome! Thank you for the comment and apologies for the super delayed response. 🙏 I am just returning from being out from surgery.
@@Dooma No worries haha! Sorry you had to go into surgery. I hope all is well!
@@Umbrex_The_Reaper Thank you so much!
I'm so glad I found this video. I copied the main parts of the build and man oh man. I have not had this much fun in years.
@@oneplusoneequalstwo1523 Heyyyyy awesome, thanks so much for coming back and letting me know. This was really nice to read today, I appreciate it very much, and I am glad you are enjoying it. 🙏
@@oneplusoneequalstwo1523 You can also add this in place of vigor for a bit of an upgrade (check out the dodge roll section): ua-cam.com/video/hT4xOfl_jxE/v-deo.htmlsi=TPa1X5nfwD5MGuGD
I'm not a die hard PvPr, but I'm enjoying this build. One change I made is since my nightblade is a wood elf I didn't think I needed to use the Serpent mundus, so I picked the Thief instead for higher crit chance. It works very well.
The build has a great combination of hardiness and damage. One on one I can easily beat the sweaty DKs who usually give me a hard time on other builds.
Another change I implemented was to switch the ultimate to Toxic Barrage. I feel it better fits the theme of the build, and it helps me get more kills.
Heyyyy awesome, I really enjoyed reading. Thank you for watching and taking the time to come back and comment. 🙏
Thank you for watching!Note on Crushing Weapon: If you are proficient at parsing, you will get crushing damage on the opening light attack, which will affect combos. I explained it for the experience of the average player who struggles with the weave, that I previously had mentioned. I also now see, my explanation is extremely poor in that regard as well, it was late, apologies. 😅 Spend a bit of time with it in front of a dummy and get a feel for it. Treat it like any other spammable.
➡Twitch: www.twitch.tv/the_gameroom
Dang this build is a game changer, never been really good at pvp, tried many builds to no avail... but this build changes everything... thank you so much... im not even on gold just blue and purple improvements and it's like a hot knife thru butter 👍👍
Haha you are very welcome Rob, glad to hear it and thank you for coming back and letting me know! 🙏
Thank you for your hard work!
You are very welcome Neeter! 🙏
Made this build today after watching it and can defos say it works big time! Just got a 20-0 in bgs. Dooma you beauty!!
This is the best I've had so far, worst is like 7-3. If you play with your group, stick behind them, poison inject away, CW then merci proc. REPOSITION is absolutely great with this build, roll then invis, ez claps!
AYYYYY 20-0! My man! VERY nice work! 💪 Love to see it.
@@Dooma ua-cam.com/video/M6MBl9T3y5U/v-deo.htmlsi=RdGFiBlQ6zT9fS51 😎
VERY NICE! Liked and subbed! 💪
@@Dooma haha ty my man appreciate it 😂
@Dooma this build has a ton of pressure I'm pushing back zergs having them break formation to hide LMBO every arcs and wardens i love it.
Pinworthy. 💪
@@Dooma 💪
This is top tier stuff!! 👌
Hope theres no nerf..
That Psijic grind tho 😭
Oh god yeah I was saying the same thing anybody know of the best way to grind that up? Hints suggestions or just put on the big boy pants and go
@@BryanBrown69 you have to do the Quest with the blue Skull... find and close the portals with the Skull...to level the psi up
Thank you Dyattz! 💪 I feel you there, trust. I was very salty for an entire 48 hour weekend no sleep marathon when the Arcanist came out re-grinding everything to get it all out of the way in one shot. 😅
🙏
I’m in love with this build 😍 Super fun, in both PvP and PvE 🤗 You’re amazing Dooma!!
That's exactly what I wanted to provide, I'm so glad, enjoy Greene! 🙏
Agree no change needed to PVE just dot the hell out of everything work the boss like a 1V1 pvp it’s over about as fast as it starts
Partially made the build getting the rest of the pcs. Love it! Subscribed sir!
Awesome, thank you, and I hope you enjoy it! 🙏
Wow, good find. Nice to see a psijic order ability in PvP. That skill line felt negated for years. Lol
Thank you Bill, and thank you for watching and commenting! 🙏
Hol-E-Cow, this build is *_awesome_* fun! I've had Sheer Venom on my radar for a while now, even had the set with funky traits in my bank. This has been a great excuse to dust it off!
I've gotten into some solo and small group scraps in Cyro so far PvP wise, and it handles like a *_dream!_*
Then I thought "Hey, lets try this in PvE!"
In _real fights,_ I found this set combo (with a few skill tweaks) to be competitive with my _Pillar Relequen_ combo, like _whaat?_
So then I thought, "Fetch it, lets try a parse!"
62k, with sub-optimal enchants, traits, and un-modified CPs. On a build that _unlike_ Rele+Pillar, can target swap on the fly with _zero_ issues!
I have _no doubt_ in my mind I could probably push to break 70k parsing, if I go all-in on PvE optimization.
Thank you _so incredibly much_ for this build dude, it is now my _absolute FAVORITE_ PvP/PvE damage build, now! Cheers, Dooma! 🍻
Between the other comment and this one you are making my week! 😂 I'm so glad you are enjoying it so much, AND awesome work putting together your own versions of it. That's exactly what I meant by "take it and make it yours." Well done! Check out the Community Tab above, and then the post from 2 days ago. It should start with, "🔥Since posting the NB build..." it has a bit more info for the build from my play testing it on other classes, if you are interested in that as well.
Thank you again so much for taking the time to share your thoughts on the build! 🙏
just pulled it off in BGs, this is nutty
Awesome work! 💪
I mixed the build up with venomous smite and pillars of nirn and it works wonders too in both solo pve and pvp🤩
Haha awesome, I am glad its working for you in other content as well. 💪
Thanks Dooma, I really enjoyed the old one but I need to test that one now!! 😎👏
You are very welcome Leo, I hope you enjoy it!
OMGOSH!!!! Thank you for this build I LOVE it! MUCH better than stupid tarnish nightmare! I am going to follow your builds now 😃
Haha you are very welcome, I am glad you are enjoying it! 🙏
I wonder if three bloodthirsty jewels would be better than three infused. Seems like bloodthirsty might help ramp up the executes from sheer venom and poison injection, but the healing would be worse.
Hi Turbo! Better may be a relative term here. If you are super proficient and on it with positioning, bt could be better, especially if you don't mind dying a bit more often. For most other circumstances, Infused is going to be more ideal most likely. Plus, no matter how good you are, no matter what build you play, every single person gets in tough trouble moments where they barely make it. In those moments, infused may be what pushes you over the line for living.
It's a bow build, with 1 bar, using double damage sets, and mostly dps cp, while running health below 30k and playing in melee with optional stealth. You have to make some sacrifices in the set up to stay alive through all that. All that said, if you are running around in groups and have a solid healer, then bt may be great, however, I didnt test it out at all, so this is all hypothetical just from experience.
Great question, thank you!
Pretty sure bloodthirsty doesn't boost dots also
If you run the no stealth setup or are on a group then try it on a Templar.
Swap merciless for radiant
I think I read somewhere that when update 43 drops, Way of the Fire will no longer keep intermittently pulling you out of stealth. I've been rolling WotF on just about every bow build I've played in the last 3 or 4 years, and that stealth bug has driven me CRAZY! xD
awesome build, great zerg build in Cyro.
You are very welcome! Thank you for the comment and apologies for the super delayed response. 🙏 I am just returning from being out from surgery.
I wonder how the bow necro is coming. I use to run a double bow one way back one and loved it so much!
I ended up trying it on all the classes and spent a bit of stream time sharing all the set ups. I settled with Sorcerer as my next version for the build and have been playing it as my own pvp build. It's been quite a lot of fun!
Amazing build, can't wait to try. Curious why you're using heavy shoulder instead of your 1 heavy on chest
Thank you Spidey, I hope you enjoy it! Check out my response to Jorgenboi here in the comments. His profile pic is blue with a white “J” to find it a little easier.
Was just getting pumped by this build. I could drop the guy very fast if I caught him, just had to actually catch him first. Lots of dmg gunna give it a try. Thanks
Very welcome Red, I hope you enjoy it!
Thanks man.
You are very welcome, enjoy!🙏
This reminds me of the savage Werewolf bow days. Gotta put it together 😂
Savage Werewolf Bowsorcs! Forgot about that haha. There were some nasty setups back in the day with it.
@Dooma I miss just spamming light attacks and watching people reel from the bleeds. This has potential to do the same thing I can't wait to get home and slap this all together! Thanks again dooma!
@@nomad4594 Haha awesome dude, love to hear it and I hope you enjoy it. You are very welcome!
@Dooma got it all put together and it so satisfying, I went heavy on chest and helmet cause I'm doing the no stealth version, but used the warrior mundas and heavy balorgh helmet for more damage. It's great!
@@nomad4594 Awesome dude, love to hear it and great changes! 💪
I've been struggling with my arcanist to make a build that works in PVP. Beam just won't hit. I tried this today and wow. My first game (ever) went over 1mil damage. Went 7/2 with 25 assists. Thank you! (25 assists! I was robbed!)
Haha that's really awesome, GREAT work and thanks so much for taking the time to come back and let me know! 💪
What skills did you slap on?
nice work youre builds are amazing,have you a one bar bow build for pve?
Thank you very much Dutchman! I will, but after u42.
Ive been running fire/venomous smite for almost 2 years now. I prefer venomus over sheer venom
I've been using Way of fire along with hunters venom, but sheer venom is Deffo something I'm going to grab
Awesome, Grim! 💪
Can you Recommend a substitute skill for crushing weapon? To use until I get it unlocked anyways. Thanks for another great build!
Finally got mine unlocked took me a week 😢
@@BryanBrown69 me too. I found a really good guide with map markers so I finished it in about 3 days. Each step took me about 20 minutes. Had a friend help me get to zones I didn’t have yet. Very fun build.
“Merciless Dawnbreaker”. May have been a tongue slip, but THAT is a really cool sounding skill name. Imagine a Templar braining someone with a Merciless Dawnbreaker finishing move.
Merciless > Smiting IMO!
👍🏾
Ooh that does sound good haha. Ok, just kidding, I meant to say that! 😅
Just looking for opinions here, i haven't had time to set it up. But how does oakensoul/anthlemir's construct/virulent shot/ sheer venom/two pieces of potentates. Sound?
Heavy into magnum into poison inject. Thats a burst, two dots, a CC and an execute pretty fast.
Ill be honest, that is a rough one to make sense of on paper. It may be awesome, it may be terrible. My general rule is its always best to try anything once!
Ive been running the same build, skills and all except incap ult and poisonous serpent set instead of sheer venom.
Awesome Serine! How is that combo working for you?
Any suggestion of a replacement skill for crushing. Sorta a cop out but I really don’t want to grind the psijic skill line as my one hour a day after work lol
I feel you on the grind. You can try unmorphed silver bolts or lethal arrow, but it does change the output of the build due to the loss of breach.
@@Dooma yeah I just sucked it up and grinded the skill anyway. Another question tho, I can’t solo imperial city for Sheer Venom and can’t find a group. You think Syvarra would be a decent replacement till I can somehow get it?
Ah man that is a bummer. Honesty I don’t think it’s the greatest fit (it could be though!). It’s proc doesn’t say “per target” it says “every x seconds.” Vs sheer that says “every x seconds per target.” So this limits your ability to multi dot targets with the same play style. It’s also difficult to maintain an only 6 second second dot on 1 target, from ranged, in the middle of team fights. I think you’ll constantly lose pressure and be frustrated a lot. On paper anyway. I really hope you can farm Sheer soon because it really does fit in the set up like magic. Syncs up perfect.
What do you think about using venomous smite instead of way of fire/sheer venom?
I personally don't prefer smite because it only procs on one target, once per 15 seconds vs. sheer venom is on every target, all the time, as long as you have poison inject rolling on them. Inject lasts 20 seconds, so that's 20 seconds of double dots (plus rng poisoned status effects) on every target around you that you roll Inject on. Smite is one single target for 10 seconds. WoF is also a very strong damage source when focusing down a single target. Smite is decent when teams are grouped up and turtled up constantly, so that may be a great set to swap to mid game if you end up in one of those turtle games.
Just from my own experience from what I can remember, fairly often WoF and/or Sheer is in my death logs, whereas I dont remember the last year I've seen venomous in there. Im sure it has been here and there, but I feel the other 2 sets outperform it fairly easily (outside the specific windows of getting most of the 10s duration on lots of grouped up players).
And the well fitted is clutch 👍
Haha awesome love to hear it. 5-6 WF is super slept on for some builds. Been trying to spread it for a while now. It’s not for everyone but if it fits your play style where you abuse rolls non-stop, and you know when to roll, it’s like magic.
Hey bro, why not use Ulfsild's Contingency (replacing Vigor) like in your arcanist build?
Hi there! This was made just before Scribing launched. I do currently use Contingency on almost every build I play now (including this one). I put out this video explaining it a bit for everyone: ua-cam.com/video/hT4xOfl_jxE/v-deo.html&t You probably saw that one though if you made this comment haha, I just wanted to make sure. It's a game changer for sure.
thankyou this is what i needed
You mare very welcome Steve, enjoy!
The gear snapshot in the video has differing traits compared to the written guide link. Which would you recommend?
Hi there! Super late response, apologies. Catching up now. For this specific set up, and while leaning heavy on dodge roll game play, I recommend heavy Way of Fire chest in reinforced, and then 6 well-fitted.
Ugh...great setup. Love one bar builds. But dots suuuuuuck to play against as a one bar glass canon magplar without purge XD
Haha You arent lying there, I'm feeling it too on my chars without purge big time. 😅
Love this build! I even soloed some pve bosses and arenas with it. If I choose siphoning instead of shadow disguise, is vampire stage still necessary? It seems that I cannot benefit from vampire passive with those skills. Thank you!
Awesome, I am glad you are enjoying the build, it's one of my favorites! Legitimately and only reason we are a vamp on this build is for the Dark Stalker and Strike from the Shadows passives, which both have to do with stealth/sneak. If you arent using stealth at all, you can totally drop vamp and you will end up with better sustain as well.
what can you use to replace Crushing Weapon i fyou dont have that skill line?
You can try a morph of snipe or unmorphed silver bolts, but this change is not 1:1. It greatly impacts the build (negatively).
Bro the edits on your vids are top tier 💯 great build also,by the way is this build still hood or did anything get patched
Thank you, I appreciate that! It's still g2g, just played it haha. It's also on a few other builds on the channel now as well. The Sorc version is my favorite: ua-cam.com/video/w93WiRmocSE/v-deo.html&t
I'm Dutchtommy. LOL I do roll with 64points in health etc. etc. very fun.
Haha awesome, I may or may not as well on the Warden. 😂 Thank you for the comment and apologies for the super delayed response. 🙏 I am just returning from being out from surgery.
This bulid is disgusting OP but I love it I'm on it 🎉😂❤
Haha awesome Jay, getchyasome! 💪
Think this can be made to work as a 2 bar build? If so waht would you add?
Hi there! Not all 1 bar builds are better (for everyone) than the 2 bar version. There are (many) players who's performance shoot up with certain kits when used as 1 bar. Not all of them work that way, but this is definitely one of those examples. Due to the almost 100% uptime and zero back bar buff cycling, you can be much more aggressive, for more periods of time, with minimal utility/defense loss (if any at all), when used in the aggressive dodge roll way I explained. We bandaid much of our defensive loss with stacking well fitted and abusing dodge rolls, but that is also not a play style that works for everyone. Some people it clicks with and they are able to find ways to dominate, some people just never quite get it down and assume it's "trash" because they sit in death logs most of the time from trying to play the build like a Magden. It's a high mobility non stop run and gun build. When played properly and in that way, you (may) find it preforms better with 1 bar, as a chunk of the back bar will be just making up what you already have from Oakensoul which you lose down time cycling bars for.
Again, very few set ups work like this. This isnt a universal thing at all. Most set ups will have a 2 bar counterpart with a bit higher ceiling, some with a much higher ceiling. I am not saying that is not the case here, but I am saying this is one of those examples where the 1 bar version, when played correctly, is right there on the heels of the 2 bar version in terms of effectiveness, for the builds intended play style. That whole take away there is "when played correctly." Some people just don't jive with that play style, and thats totally cool, theres a million ways to do it in ESO. Im habitually a terrible stamplar even during patches when they are only a few buttons and op.
Regarding specific changes, I would need a good bit of play time to work it all out for what is most efficient. Check out #6 here for a bit of context: www.thegameroom.tv/build-faq
Nitpicking probably, but shouldnt you put the heavy on chest rather than shoulder?
I did because it’s what I had
I put the heavy on helm so I could just buy the slime shoulders. You are right about using a major piece.
Hi Jorgen! With Fire Bow and Tri Enchants alone, this build is expensive to put together (considering nothing else). Then you need to run 2x poisons and tri pots to play it, which can be very expensive. I try, within reason, to make things as accessible as possible. When I looked chests were really expensive and bows with proper traits are ridiculous. I knew this video would likely increase all those prices to some degree and I didn't want people sitting this one out, for the sake of a tiny bit more survivability.
I was actually pulling it up on TTC to link it to you, and I see now, it is wildly different from when I looked a few weeks+ ago. I think what may have happened, is I am just so conditioned to using reinf. heavy chests, I must have not looked at well-fitted chests, because they are crazy cheap rn. That said, reinf. is also really cheap rn as well. I have personally picked up a few chests to have that option as well for min maxing that I am going to discuss in the next video (1 and 2 bar Stamsorc).
TLDR: def swap shoulders for chest. I'd even consider running it reinforced. I have 4 now. Divine, Well Fitted, Impen., and Reinf.
@@Dooma Thanks a bunch for elaborating - your reasoning about pricing makes total sense. I just happened to drop a reinforced chest before commenting, so I figured I’d double check if there were any other reasons I was missing👌🏻 Thanks for the awesome work you put in and builds you put out, I’ll check out your stream vod later to see results of play testing other classes
You are very welcome Jorgen and thank you for the kind words!
hey awesome build thank you,
I was wondering would it be ok if I was using wood elf and used the shadow mundus?
Hey there Lewis, thank you and you are very welcome! You definitely can use a Wood Elf but the Shadow Mundus would depend on if you can sustain it. It’s probably going to be a little tough, especially if you are abusing dodge rolls. I would try it out for a game or two. If you find yourself always out of stamina, swap back to Serpent.
Hey I'm running SW and TN I feel attacked 😂it is rough AF right now
Nice build there! Think this would work on dk, cause of the flame and poison damage passive?
Hi Roman! Since posting, I have been play testing this set up on every class, BGs and Cyro, 1 bar, and 2. I put some thoughts in discord and plan to explain everything on the next stream (looking at a bit later today, but waiting on something this morning to confirm.)
I check in now and again to see how the state of the game is. Not played for a while as i hate the tanky meta. But Sheer Venom is one of my most favourite sets on this game.
This still viable now? Did Way of the Fire get the nerf you thought?
Looks tempting to return and try this. Ill have to join your discord because id love to eventually see if making this a 2 bar build would be even stronger.
Great stuff man!
Hi there! This build still works the same and is now on a few other classes on the channel as well. This one here being my favorite: ua-cam.com/video/w93WiRmocSE/v-deo.html
Welcome back to ESO as well if you return! 💪
Dooma would high elf work and wood elf on this? This looks fun!
Wood Elf would work well. H’elf isn’t ideal but at least you some sustain and weapon damage so not the worst choice.
I don't mind it however you end up in the 20k HP range and get owned
Oh, and also, how would you go about modding this build for a necro? Viable at all? Or warden maybe
Since posting, I have been play testing this set up on every class, BGs and Cyro, 1 bar, and 2. I put some thoughts in discord and plan to explain everything on the next stream (looking at a bit later today, but waiting on something this morning to confirm.)
Im on ps5 still some what new do we get the same enchantments as pc if so what one did you put on your bow?
It should be the same. For this build we are using double dot poisons.
Should i be using sheer venom or Syvarra's Scales because the damage on
Syvarra's Scales looks higher
Hi There! For this build and it's play style Sheer Venom is going to work better when used in the way described in the video. Syvarras is great on certain set ups like this one if you can push you weapon damage high enough in your build for a decent enough tool tip: ua-cam.com/video/HiaVds_pmRQ/v-deo.html
Bruuuuu, another sick, out there build! What do you think of deadly w/necro dot buff dot build?
Thank you Uchiha! 🙏 Since posting, I have been play testing this set up on every class, BGs and Cyro, 1 bar, and 2. I put some thoughts in discord and plan to explain everything on the next stream (looking at a bit later today, but waiting on something this morning to confirm.)
I noticed that you have the one heavy piece on the shoulders instead of the (bigger) chest? Would you get a little better resistance with the chest? Or is there a drawback I’m not seeing? Thanks!
Def used heavy chest! There are a few convos here in the comments where we talked about it. I tried to save the cost to players, wrongly assuming the chests were super expensive, but they are actually very cheap right now (or they were a few weeks ago). So I picked up a heavy chest in all the relevant traits. I go back and forth between reinforced and well fitted personally.
I need another build like this lmbo necrobow or something
Already done! Details tomorrow. 💪
@@Dooma yoooooo can't wait 🐐
Hey ya !! Do you find ithis still valid for update 43 or would you put a scribbing heal or something in there? Also, do you feel a 2 bar version using left handers would work, if you load your bb up with concealed wpn, siphoning atks, flare for the 10% dam recduct, and maybe a burst heal or race against time or refreshing path?
Hi there! I use a specific scribing ability on every one of my set ups now, PvP and PvE. For PvP it replaces vigor. Here is a short explanation over it (it's not super obvious on the tool tip what it can do. Specifically, check out the dodge roll section): ua-cam.com/video/hT4xOfl_jxE/v-deo.html&t
I didn't like the 2 bar version of this set up much. With the super rolly-polly game play and constant uptime and pressure, the down time from back bar buff cycling slowed the pace way down for me. This is one of those rare builds where I feel works better, or at least right in line, with a 2 bar counterpart.
@@Dooma awesome, thanks! I was using a similar build but was WoF and Venomous smite. Looking forward to trying this one. Im always up in their faces with a bow, its like im on a bowgank, but playing like a brawler.
@@nokmuay1970 Haha that's exactly it and you are very welcome! Had I thought of that for the video I would have used that exact phrase: "It's like im on a bowgank, but playing like a brawler." That's exactly what it feels like when abusing dodge rolls, especially with contingency haha. I ended up adding the build to 2 other classes on the channel as well: Sorcerer and Arcanist. Sorcerer ended up being my favorite and I rounded that one out to a 2 bar build as well. It's a fun set up for sure.
Struggling a little with the burst damage combo? I’m quite new to the game. What exact is the rotation for the burst damage?
Welcome to ESO Callum! Did you watch the whole video? I ask because I explain what you are asking in depth including showing it in slo-mo: 12:06. I suggest re-watching that whole section that goes over skills and their uses because there is a bit of info in there as well that may help.
Love this build, it's super fun to use in BG's and cyrodiil. I was wondering, though, how good would the build be if you replaced the bow for The Master's Bow?
Awesome! I'm not sure honestly. It would require you shifting other things around as its going to take up an extra slot. So youll end up dropping something else to make room. In that context, I dont really see it worth it (on this specific set up, while keeping it 1 bar), but you never know until you try!
What alteration would you recommend making for a Bosmer?
Hi Louie! Since we arent really taking advantage of the Khajiit with CP here, you are totally good to go. Bosmer isnt a bad fit at all. 💪
Apologies if I missed it, is it get health to 30k then dump the rest into stamina?
It's the second sentence when build instruction starts at 2:16.
Cool build. But why Heavy shoulders and Medium chest? Does it have any advantages comparing to Heavy chest and medium shoulders? I thought puting heavy body pieces just gives more armor... is there any other difference?
Thank you! Check out my response to Jorgenboi here in the comments. His profile pic is blue with a white “J.”
Wouldn't all divines and 1 reinforced be better? Or would the defense be cheeks and it's better to roll dodge?
Cheeks. Dodge roll 🤌🏼.
But, check out my response to Jorgenboi here in the comments about reinf. His profile pic is blue with the letter J to find it easier.
@@Dooma bet thanks
Question, i can see that you use 4 pcs of way of fire, how do you trigger the 5pc effect? sry for beeing noob xD
No worries at all, happy to help. Your weapon counts as 2 towards the set bonuses.
@@Dooma thx for quick answer
Hi, great build, I will test ist today 😎, but there's one thing I don't understand. You recommend Vampire Stage 2, but then you don't use a invisibility-skill?
Hi Alexander! There are 2 options for the set up. One with and one without stealth. I would definitely consider stage 2 for the one with stealth.
Does anything else work with way of the fire besides sheer vemon? Grinding through a dungeon for hours doesn't sound fun right now lol
Oh yea tons of sets. But I am not sure if there are others that will work exactly like it is here. To press 1 button and apply 2 damage sets plus a dot that scales to 120% with 1 button, is (very) busted for the game. I don't see it lasting indef.
Would Draugarkin work better than Way of Fire?
Hi there! Super late response, apologies. Catching up now.
I have draugrkin on a few other bow builds that did super well, so I am sure it can work well. I think better vs. worse would depend on who is playing it honestly due to the healing penalty, but it definitely should bring more team/map pressure than WoF.
Great build. One question tho. Why take heavy on the shoulders and not chest? Wouldn't you get more armor?
Hi Blast, thank you! You are totally correct. Check out "Jorgenboi"'s comment and my response here in the comment. (His profile pic is blue with a white "J" to find it faster.)
@@Dooma Ok ty, I just wanted it make sure I wasn't missing somthing. Lol I put the build together to try out. I'll let you know how I do and if I make any changes. :)
Didnt see a green tree in your writing one.. your video shows bow but it shows 2 dagger
The green tree for CP doesnt have any combat related functions other than rationer and liquid efficiency to save some gold and you are looking at the pve build. Under PVP - BOW this build matches on the website.
Question. Sheer venom set is proc by an execute skill. Is that correct? So how is sheer venom working? With the build
I’m really not sure. My best guess is the top end of Inject is coded as an execute for it's function like the back end maybe? That’s one of the reasons I said something like “I kind of feel this shouldn’t be working like this.” It may not even technically be an “issue” necessarily with wrong coding, that could be intentional and it’s just an extremely potent combo of 2 sets + inject.
Either way, I cannot imagine this stays in the game indefinitely, especially as it starts to spread around (it’s already in a high % of my death logs now lol). It’s clearly an outlier for damage output for sure. Or, maybe it does and u42 is about to be wild.😂
Edit: Doesn't look like the top half numbers indicate any sort of execute scaling.
TOP:
= 3470 Poison Damage
= 0.015495 MaxStat + 0.16270 MaxDamage
Ultimate (Damage/Tick), R2 = 1, Ratio = 10.50
Poison Damage, Single Target, DOT
Duration: 18 secs, Delay: 2 secs, Tick: 2 secs
Base Value = 347 x 10 Ticks = 3470 Overall
BOTTOM:
= 120 Constant (Derived %)
Base Value = 120 (unmodified)
Wow that's a very in depth answer thank you for the effort you put in to your response.
@@dannyc3954 You are very welcome, Danny. Thank you for watching!
With the Sheer Venom set it says you need to use an execute ability but i dont see one on your bar. Is this one of those situations where it still procs anyway?
Hi there! There is a few comments here where we had some back-and-forths over it if you are interested in the info there. I even dug as far into the math as I could with it and shared that as well. The tldr is, nobody really knows lol. My speculation is that the whole ability is coded as an execute due to its damage scaling, which keeps venom proccing along for it's duration.
@@Dooma TY for the fast reply! will check out the info.
@@jasonpettit6206 You are very welcome!
Great build! Just curious, with the new scribing system, there are some other ways to get major breach. Have you tried any of those options rather than crushing?
Hi Dennis, thank you! I have but I didnt like what I had access to really. Ive been play testing existing and new builds on stream, adding scribing skills as well. Thats during weekdays on twitch if you are interested there. Once I have some content piled up, I am going to swing back over to UA-cam and put out a bunch of new and updated set ups for everyone. But if you want them early, I am showing the play testing live over on twitch for people.
@@Dooma Excellent ! I'll check it out. Again, many thanks!
You are very welcome!
I got the sets, the pressure is insane! I must admit! Have you thought of a 2 bar version of this!?
Love to hear it! Here is the honest truth that some sweats hate to read. There are some builds like this, where having it on 1 bar is "better" for some people because you keep the same output (or very close), with less buff cycling time, especially if it fits your play style. It is a very small % of builds that can do that, but on the right build, you can end up having the same output (or very very close) due to being able to stay aggressive more, with less back bar and buff cycling, gaining all the buffs the 2 bar is cycling for, from Oakensoul.
(I am NOT saying 1 bar is superior at all. 99.9% of times, that's not the case. I am saying there certain (very few) builds, when played correctly, can be as close as you can get to touching the heels of a 2 bar version, if not right there. This one is one of them to me: ua-cam.com/video/V042mCoTejY/v-deo.html and you can arguably put this one (NB) in the same category, in proficient players hands who really understands how to play the rolly-polly play style and not just arbitrarily rolling around for fun.)
Also, before someone (not you haha) blows a sinus speed responding about builds, I am specifically comparing a build to IT'S specific 2 bar counterpart. Not comparing it to OTHER builds such as the Meta Arc/DKs/Wardens etc., who in equally skilled hands, you should never be able to take down with this set up without major mistakes from their end. It's a David and Goliath situation, without the miracle. They should be able to just turtle up and los you indef. until you get tired of messing with them. There are levels to the levels, even with builds. But, game knowledge and the right build, will allow you to take a lesser build on paper, and outperform a better one.
@@Dooma Yeah I know exactly what you mean, I was testing 2 bar and 1 bar yesterday and it's much easier to play with the 1 bar setup! I tried the 2 bar version buffing with rallying cry and stuff on the back bar etc. but it came out damage wise as you said, really similar! I have also tried Venomous in replacement of Way of Fire, and it's also disgusting! The Dot's can proc Venomous randomly on people and it seems to really hurt them!
Haha awesome, I'm glad you got to see that exactly in action. That's it right there. You are the second person I think who has said now they are pairing venomous with sheer. I am going to have to check that out. Thank you for the reminder!
@@Dooma definitely do man! I felt quite horrible with the Dot's flying out from it! It's a pretty ruthless set!!
also been quite interested in trying out the Star poison set too (cant remember the exact name of the set!)
Whats a good option untill you get the psijic one?
Hi there! Super late response, apologies. Catching up now.
If you havent unlocked Crushing yet, you can just keep it simple and use Lethal Arrow.
Is this build better for BG’s? I tried this in cyrodil and I got destroyed. The dots would do damage but not enough, plus I was getting near one shotted.
It may just be a play style thing. Might not vibe with you well. I’ve always been awful at stamplar pvp even when it was op and very straight forward. Just never felt it and never worked for me.
This build is very fun id hate to be on the receiving end of it lol- the crushing weapon is tricky sometimes but other than that pretty solid.. using divines currently do you think roll dodge is that much better than the extra mundus? Switching between lovers and serpent atm
Awesome, I am glad you are enjoying it! Roll dodge is sort of the core of the defense here. There’s very little actual mitigation. Abusing the dodge roll will go a long way in keeping your health bar full. Likewise running the well fitted traits will make the dodge roll stam consumption exponentially less over time, allowing for more damage spam.
See my response to Jorgenboi’s questions here in the comments for a small update on traits. His profile pic is blue with a white “J” to help find it faster.
No eat this is intended lol. How does this survive not getting nerfed?
Right? When I saw the damage ticking on the dummy for the first time I said “hoooooold on a second, what’s going on here?!” 😂
I still think there is a ton of more potential here. I am going to be messing with this for a while. If nothing comes in u42, this is going to be around for a little bit. Unless it’s breaking some sort of rule set for a hot fix.
If I were to just pull a guess out of thin air, it may be either an unintended/unexpected performance with Inject carrying both sets for the full duration. Or there is a lot more we have still yet to uncover with buildcraft. Every time I think the last onion later was peeled off, there’s a whole new onion lol.
And now we have scribing coming soon where we can alter our abilities with new effects.
>heavy breathing meme.gif
@Dooma I can't wait for scribing honestly. I'm going to try and make a ranged bleed proc and then use these sets for another dot. Looks spicy.
so i just farmed this, is not even enchanted or with correct traits....i did 1.5mil dmg in a BG and ended 21-6...this is sick!!
Ayyyyyy Awesome, love to see it and AWESOME job yourself! 💪 Thanks for coming back and letting me know!