Cultural Marxism and the Narrative of Victimhood - Saumya Dey -

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  • @pduttagupta
    @pduttagupta 4 роки тому +24

    brillant analysis...no wonder present day west bengal is at the receiving end of cultural marxism like no other place..giving the islamists of united bengal a camouflage to operate and possibly undo the deft political manuvoures of S.P.Mukhrejee which they could not in 1946-7.

    • @DattaMusics
      @DattaMusics 3 роки тому +2

      ..Bengal survived only for one fact that is cultural rationalization of literature and spirituality it is because Vivekananda aurobindo even rabindranath do he was sceptical but still he was absolutely spiritual and he was influenced by baul music....I would even take the name of kazi nazrul Islam and I will definitely take the name of Ritwik Ghatak because one was a muslim and another was a communist but still a included the Goddess culture of Bengal into their works nazrul wrote songs about the great mother and we can see the great mother in with the Ghatak more than often....The spiritual un conscious of Bengali culture saved us from cultural Marxism reaching its madness like American democrats....... We made Jyoti Basu where dhuti and celebrate Durga puja..... Bengal cannot be destroyed Sri Ramakrishna is still alive at the back of our heads kalidas is still alive at the back of our heads bol music is still alive at the back of our heads..... The great mother is still alive within us!!!

    • @Chris_winthers
      @Chris_winthers 3 роки тому +1

      Exept for the fact that cultural marxism is a made Up term that rightoids use when someone is making a solid point against them

    • @pduttagupta
      @pduttagupta 3 роки тому

      @@Chris_winthers solid point means..genocide of hindus in bangladesh n west bengal! Keep it up Mr Maach

    • @Chris_winthers
      @Chris_winthers 3 роки тому +1

      @@pduttagupta tell me when "cultural marxists" commited genocide

    • @pduttagupta
      @pduttagupta 3 роки тому

      @@Chris_winthers they need not...when islamists did so on their behalf n made Pakistan Bangladesh 'hindu free'! How come india still has 'dispecible' hindus ??

  • @Hypnosis4Change
    @Hypnosis4Change 4 роки тому +14

    Very interesting. I am currently researching cultural marxism and the cult of victimhood. I am looking to write a paper that provides psychological explanations for how this mindset has infiltrated American society and education.

    • @Hypnosis4Change
      @Hypnosis4Change 4 роки тому +1

      @holio Yes it is--firmly grounded in the Frankfort School and the disciples of that era.

    • @arandomperson4117
      @arandomperson4117 3 роки тому +3

      Nice but sadly you won’t find anything solid. Because it’s a freaking conspiracy theory built on the victim mentality of the right.
      Every attempt to address a problem in society somehow becomes an attempt to undermine the ruling class / labelled as cultural Marxism
      Feminism - no you can’t talk how sexism affects women. That would undermine the men.
      LGBT rights - No they can’t be equal - it’s undermining Christian value. It’s somehow oppressing the Christians who didn’t have to experience the same kind of discrimination
      Multiculturalism- no you can’t talk about racism - that’s oppression against the whites
      Basically you can’t talk about those who were on the receiving end of social issues. Helping them would mean undermining the comfort of the non-oppressed, so let’s not even try to change a single thing.
      This kind of mentality doesn’t just exists in America, it exists in everywhere else in the world. You can’t address a problem without the oppressive class telling you you’re the one hurting them.

    • @arandomperson4117
      @arandomperson4117 3 роки тому +2

      @@Hypnosis4Change I’m a minority in an Islamic country. Every attempt for the minority to fight for their rights always somehow misconstrued as an attempt to undermine the Muslim faith which is ridiculous. Our demand for equality, our rejection of racial superiority, somehow is ‘racial discrimination’ against them.
      Victim complex is most often projected from the ruling class. That’s a very common phenomenon. They do this so that they can comfortably disregard problems that don’t affect them. The same goes with right wing pundits who cry about ‘cultural Marxism’ because apparently asking them to lift their comfortable asses up to fix some problems is apparently ‘oppression’ towards them.

    • @DattaMusics
      @DattaMusics 3 роки тому

      @@arandomperson4117 ... Now the successful proof of what moralistic standards infused by cultural Marxism can do is evident from what you have wrote and don't get me wrong I am not criticizing you...... The point is you can talk about Black rights if that is endangered well someone like Lil Wayne did not feel he was discriminated against because he is one of the richest rappers there is someone like Michael Jackson is at the top of the hierarchy someone like Bob Marley, is at the top of the hierarchy as far as Fame and social reverence is concerned now for me I cannot understand why I should feel more great about just another White man versus someone like Jean Michelle basquiat..... But that does not mean that I will not se klee or Jackson Pollock as great as jean Michelle, Michelle is my favourite on personal grounds but in intellectual grounds they are great artists....now I don't have any good reason to respect just another white musician like post malone, over Oscar Peterson but that does not mean that while I'm praising Oscar Peterson I will undermine Beethoven..... That is exactly what happens!!!? the n word is something that my friends use in India because they are influenced by rap, it is something that the african-american community use among themselves but if a white person like Eminem belongs from the same culture or identifies with the same culture and wants to be an insider and uses the same word which happened in the case of Quentin Tarantino, Quentin Tarantino is not a racist person by any means but he likes action films and making films about the underworld where the Street lingo deserves recognition now making these things over sensitive, leads to an absolute social anarchy, which is exactly the case with American society today sometimes I fear because my brother lives there he lives a very silent life does not engage with much people but I will never go there and mix with the people that are there because I do not carry these things in my head..... This is where the problem lies ,yes you need to fight for the people who are at the receiving end but you have to make a filter as to understand even with that ethnicity group who are not falling into the receiving end ,Lil Wayne or Trevor Noah have political and Street power with them they cannot be taken down by some random white person......but cultural Marxism creates something known as thought phobia! where you cannot even use the n word even though you have African American friends and they love you and you love them and everything is fine between all of you.......where you cannot talk about a white person who was killed by a powerful black person due to some political or personal reasons......America has done one good thing that when the african-american community came up with their own music with their own art ,they nationalized it in the public sphere now rap orjazz are some of the most famous art forms in the world but the political discourse that they have set and the kind of people the created in democratic discourse made a mess out of everything.......

    • @DattaMusics
      @DattaMusics 3 роки тому +2

      @@arandomperson4117 ... I live in a Hindu majority country but every attempt to criticize Muslim hegemony ..... Is policed..... Because in India Islam is the second majority and by no standards they have a percentage which can be called a minority by any international standards or parameters!...... In India the smallest minority are jains and parsis......but they are not considered as minorities because the concept of Islamic phobia has been rationalised to a point when even saying a thing against Islam becomes thought phobia.... When thousands of kashmiri pandits were killed in Kashmir by the majority religious group in your country who also stay in a large number in my country....not even a single word was spoken against them!! because we have a concept of Islamo phobia.... And when even on the basis of property dispute crime happens between two people of different religions and given that one belongs to a particular religion.... All the blame is put up on the Hindus as if we are the fascist..... When in recent years three temples were broke by the peaceful religious community nothing was said by the leftist and 1 masjid was destroyed in the whole history of India other than that no masjid was ever destroyed compared to that thousands of temples were destroyed during the mediaeval period and even in the modern period and nothing to say about what happens in Bangladesh or Pakistan to our religious community..... Now this is hypocritical non factual nonclinical public discourse that the left sets up....... A simple farmer of white colour say something against a woman who is a billionaire does not give the right to the feminist to complain about the farmer because by definition he can do nothing to the women given the standards of power and social influence that the woman has!! and as far as social prevalence of values is concerned yes in an office where there are men and women working ,men shouldn't be abusive to women this is something which is common sense...... And similarly if a black person who happens to be Barack Obama..... And if a simple white person criticises him on the basis of political performance don't bring in the concept of racism..... I am not proposing and eradication of feminism, lgbtq rights or anything like that I am proposing simply understand the not so obvious context of who is at the receiving end!!!!

  • @ashwaryp
    @ashwaryp 4 роки тому +20

    TY for the history of Cultural Marxism, i knew about some of the themes of the Cultural Marxism such *Intersectionality* , *_Deconstruction of Society into smaller and smaller groups_* among other things but not about the chronological order of its birth and various important aspects such as the *Three tendencies of Cultural Marxism* .

    • @isidoreaerys8745
      @isidoreaerys8745 4 роки тому +2

      Marxism is modernist.
      Theodor Adorno and the Frankfurt school were post modernists.
      Their tactics of identity politics and marginalization of groups into factions has been detrimental to the cause of Marxism.
      You are right it was Gramsci who constructed the political strategy of making a revolutionary coalition out of lower caste groups.
      However Marxian thought is constructive, not deconstructive towards culture. And insists all men must see their unity as the exploited worker class.
      Marxism is simply the observation that when 2000 billionaires exert a claim of private ownership over the planets wealth in spite of the remaining 7.5 billion men, Democracy cannot truly be said to exist.

    • @Tambaha
      @Tambaha 3 роки тому

      @@isidoreaerys8745 human nature and the universe is messy and not orderly as we desire. The only just way is to let people freely trade, accepting that some will gain more than others. But that gain does not come at the others expense. The only way to fix freedom of trade is through force of trade.

    • @moonookiee
      @moonookiee 2 роки тому

      @@Tambaha I'll say that you don't really have access to therapy that's why you say universe is unstable. Bruh are you a hydrogen bomb? Your brain can be stable if you learn the right things you know. Otherwise you'll live with Stockholm syndrome forever after being abused by your capitalistic daddies.

  • @Onelove-Oneheart-h4c
    @Onelove-Oneheart-h4c 3 місяці тому

    Brilliant work.

  • @ritajha7302
    @ritajha7302 4 роки тому +3

    Beautiful voice.

  • @AbhinavDeekonda
    @AbhinavDeekonda 4 роки тому +4

    From an academic point of view, it was a good presentation. But you have missed or did not mention the following.
    1. How Traditional Marxism transitioned into Cultural Marxism?
    2. How Cultural Marxism as an ideology affected Indian politics and society in recent decades?
    3. How to fight or counter Cultural Marxism?
    I request Saumya Dey to answers these questions.
    Thank you.

    • @yashthakur315
      @yashthakur315 4 роки тому +13

      1. Traditional Marxism in 60s lost its battle to capitalism bz western Europe was flourishing & eastern Europe was in crisis due to cold war & Soviet influence, intact Marxism(communism) had died in 90s after the collapse of Soviet Union.
      2. Nehru, an anti-hindu, an idiot, was highly influenced by Soviet as communist/socialist country. So after the Gandhi & Patel death there was no one to challenge him & he adopted socialism. Under Indra Gandhi these Soviets spy controlled & hijacked the top gvt agencies & this ws d time was Constitution was amended & secular plus socialist was added. This the time when JNU was formed with left ideology which can promote secularism(anti-hindu, anti-india) & help Gandhi to retain power.
      3. Spread Dharma, teach Hindu values, disclose the true face of left & their ideology, learn correct history of India, follow patriot & nationalist people like @swamy39, watch & read & share the true face of Lutyens media.

    • @AbhinavDeekonda
      @AbhinavDeekonda 4 роки тому +2

      @@yashthakur315 Good attempt. Thanks.

    • @Barwal7
      @Barwal7 4 роки тому +3

      To my understanding, there is an unending chain of this thought. How could one achieve this long after he/she is gone? That's right, put it in the books. I've been reading school level NCERTs lately and the subliminal plantation of Marxist Communist thought is disturbingly obvious. Social Science, Political Science in colleges are essentially Naxal manuals. That is truly the reason we see clueless people chanting "democracy khatre mein, constitution khatre mein" without feeling the need to inspect about the truth. This is a scary disposition totally in control of Left ideologues/role models. All it takes is a single tweet/facebook post.
      If we change our books now, it would still take approx. 25 years to raise a self-thinking, logical generation.

    • @AbhinavDeekonda
      @AbhinavDeekonda 4 роки тому +2

      @@Barwal7 Good points 👍

    • @yashthakur315
      @yashthakur315 4 роки тому +3

      @@Barwal7 it's must to change the books. But as a true Bharatiya we must read books by ourselves too like the one by Sita ram goel, koennard elst, Meenakshi Jain, Bb LAL, subramnian Swamy, David frawley, savakar by vikaram, partition by Ambedkar, eminent' historians by Arun & many more

  • @meenamink418
    @meenamink418 4 роки тому +7

    Wonderful cultural Marxism and pop culture narrative should also be discussed.

  • @asmrjeweler9237
    @asmrjeweler9237 2 роки тому

    Would you consider the civil rights movement in the US in the 60's to be an extension of cultural Marxism? There was advocacy for the rights of minorities, there was tension between races, there was pointing out structural racism, etc.

  • @apamlanpanda77
    @apamlanpanda77 2 роки тому

    This is a great talk

  • @peterbettell1361
    @peterbettell1361 2 роки тому

    Top man

  • @satyampandey795
    @satyampandey795 4 роки тому +1

    Brilliant!!!

  • @childhoodforever223
    @childhoodforever223 4 роки тому +2

    Great lecture sir..👍

  • @nilalondon
    @nilalondon 4 роки тому +4

    Pls add details of the academic presenting here.

  • @isidoreaerys8745
    @isidoreaerys8745 4 роки тому +8

    Marxism is modernist.
    Teodor Adorno and the Frankfurt school, while supporting Lefist values were post modernists.
    Their tactics of identity politics and marginalization of groups into factions has been detrimental to the cause of Marxism.
    You are right it was Gramsci who constructed the political strategy of making a revolutionary coalition out of lower caste groups.
    However Marxian thought is constructive, not deconstructive towards culture. And insists all men must see their unity as the exploited worker class.
    Marxism is simply the observation that on a planet where 2000 billionaires exert their will over the remaining 7.5 billion, Democracy cannot truly exist.

    • @DattaMusics
      @DattaMusics 3 роки тому

      .. and you have proved that they are successful in creating victimhood.... First of all me as an artist, I only want to make an animation company ,even if a 3 billion dollar company is given to me of steel and sand ,I won't do that because that is not what I am built for.... There is no historical determinism for van Gogh because he will paint no matter what is the circumstance because he is that there is no history determinism or capitalist exploitation of a musician like bach or siddheshwari Devi.... No matter what is the system they will still sing or play......and whenever you try to destroy your whole system and hierarchy of capability you alienated human brilliance altogether and that is absolutely anti science .....because by any scientific parameter we are divided by our competence you cannot sing like system of a down you cannot paint like Salvador Dali... You cannot write a poem like rabindranath thakur because we are divided by our competence that will happen...... The working class is not capable of creating business that's why they are the working class..... Go to a nanimation institute how many of them are willing to be a Bob Kane or Stanlee, are they investing in creating a parallel universe of comic characters? for they just want to get a job somehow.....the point is capitalistic bully should not happen the point is the opportunity for an individual to break out of the system and create his own system should be there but people who are not capable should not be given the capability.......

    • @DattaMusics
      @DattaMusics 3 роки тому

      ..because the fundamental metaphysical problem of Western understanding is that economic status is the only usp and that is how the society is constructed for the American dream so to speak. ..but filmmakers have created the concept American beauty..... No matter how bigger life is or how small the life is from economic parameters of course .... It does not matter who you are on the grounds of your financial footing but the concept of academic respect ,artistic respect, falling in love ,delighting in poetry is something that is normal for a human being due to his evolution and due to the subtlety of his experience and understanding but when that is alienated, the only question is about money then obviously there will be a rigid hierarchy because not everybody will be capable with the stock market ,not everybody will be capable with creating a business. So,this problem is fundamentally metaphysical and by metaphysical I mean, it is the collective consciousness of both the capitalist and the Marxist which think that money is the only USp, for me creativity is the only USp I have .I can spend my day with 50 rupees note not even dollars.... But I do not spend a day without working on my creative projects for or doing a painting singing a song etc.....that was the USp of my grandfather that was the uSP of my father that is the USp of my mother ,my mother is a classical singer of Indian music and that is our life .We will not exchange our cerebral capability or our passion for the arts for some million dollars.......So , is a problem of social conscience rather than capitalistic abuse......and the over romanticism with words like democracy versus words like life words like love because emotional intelligence is at alienation from the western point of view the only USp they have is intellectual understanding ...... That is the framework from where poetry gets alienated fine arts get alienated and that is the simple reason which led for Stalin to police creativity and after image by Wajda...... Became a reality for the socialist republic.....where you are told by the society that without money you do not have respect and then the fish tries to be the bird and cannot make a successful business out of them and understand that incapability of creating a business and becomes a worker and feels suppressed for their entire life.............the only problem with the capitalistic society is that the exercises technocratic control they exercise commodity fetishism at the cost of aesthetics at the cost of life in terms of love in terms of sharing in terms of getting together in terms of adventure and they set up an imaginary hierarchy and exercise that in such precision that everyone starts to believe in it ,and Marxism becomes a natural revolt and alternative for that matter.....

    • @DattaMusics
      @DattaMusics 3 роки тому

      The fundamental question that no marxist asks that if wealth is equally distributed between all men ,does the scientific truth of division based on competence of different subjects gets destroyed somehow or evaporate into thin air??..... Will we be absolutely good if the only thing we had was money and financial security is the only crisis within human beings of economics??..... These questions were taboo for the Marxist ecosystem..... A poem of Robert Frost or. a poem of jibanananda became opium rather than human genius.....Where the concept of learning mathematics for the sake of understanding the cosmos rather than earning bucks..... Will also be an opium......Because if I am the greatest mathematician on the planet and still I earn way less than a Steve Jobs....I got nothing to loose , I will not feel anyway inferior because what I wanted to explore I could, that is good enough! ...... If I became a painter like Picasso by definition ,I do not have the same money as Bill Gates but I would not exchange my position as Picasso for a Bill Gates!....... Now these were the questions which was never asked.... There are not only 2000 billionaires there are are thousands of top-level quantum physicist there are thousands of revered artists..... There are thousands of spiritual giants.....There are thousands of good poets there are thousands of good filmmakers there are thousands of powerful philosophers and they were by their nature ,by their competence by their swabhav from an indic perspective.... Are built for that..... And the capitalist cannot exercise their control over them if a system values human genius more than money but understand the usefulness of institutions......and people who had not opened their minds were not taken the necessary steps to explore will not gain anything in life no matter whether in financial grounds or in the grounds of academic and artistic genius......now these are the questions which a Marxist can never answer because they cannot think anything beyond economics and they cannot think anything beyond fixing economic abuse because for them nothing else exist!!!!!….....

    • @moonookiee
      @moonookiee 2 роки тому

      @@DattaMusics lmao Marxist theory suggests that a perfect world would be moneyless, stateless, and borderless. We know money is the cause of all evil. You won't exchange your position with a billionaire as an artist, but those billionaires can hire you to make you their slave. You will have to make what they want you to make. Your individual endeavours can pose a threat to your job if the company doesn't like it. Also I'll not say that bill gates, Elon and jobs are smart per say. They hired the right people who make their vision come to life, which makes them lucky. Gates didn't build an iPhone, his engineers did. With this attitude you will spend your life doing meaningless slavery of some 'never was' boss.

  • @Useruytrw
    @Useruytrw 4 роки тому +1

    Stellar 👌👍👌👍

  • @isidoreaerys8745
    @isidoreaerys8745 4 роки тому +11

    Omg. I’ve found Indian Ben Shapiro.
    Facts don’t care about your feelings!

    • @arnavbhagwat4232
      @arnavbhagwat4232 4 роки тому +7

      Ben Shapiro is an idiot who debates college kids who have no training I feels smug about beating them in debates

    • @DattaMusics
      @DattaMusics 3 роки тому +1

      @@arnavbhagwat4232 ... And you are the bigger idiot who does not understand that the left ecosystem is processed and forwarded by students... Go and read Che Guevara..... That is exactly their Motto.... I like Charlie Kirk way more than Ben shapiro but when a system is run by fools who think they are smart.... You have a need to engage with fools and run them down because if you choose to ignore them and debate only the most elite then nothing will happen because these bunch of idiots are the ones who changed the political scenario and who caused the energy in the first place sensible people won't be anarchist that is sure to you need to debate falls it's me not do anything still their ecosystem will run because of the cultural rationalisation they have.....

    • @nicotinedealer7653
      @nicotinedealer7653 3 роки тому

      @@DattaMusics these kids will barely earn minimum wage, rest assured they won't take over. it will and always has been the rich. Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk are just puppets. They are trying to earn a livelihood by selling opinions.

    • @DattaMusics
      @DattaMusics 3 роки тому +1

      @@nicotinedealer7653 you are the typical victimhood romantic the democratic mechanism cannot be run by the rich it is always run by the middle class I know that more than anyone else the naxalite protest in Calcutta was not done by the rich class it was done by the middle class and they shot everyone they thought were enemies of the common people that included simple school teachers that included simple doctors who don't earn lakhs and crores of rupees so don't give me all that nonsense I know it better!!....the middle class cannot take over the enterprise and The structures of capitalist engine in any country but by definition they can cause a civil war , can cause a naxalite terrorist attack that can kill normal people without any reason they can take the streets in chaos and havok ..... destroy the very social frame of decency just by doing all sorts of anarchy....and about the rich let me tell you if somebody gives me a steel industry which is worth billion rupees I won't take it why because I am an artist that is the only thing that I am meant to do and that is the only thing I will do I am not interested in manufacturing steel but someone else needs to manufacture steel so that I can get my eezels and utensils .....it is always that the labour should not be abused they should not be treated in a bad manner there should be a decent code but I tell you one example I had a friend whose father sold fish in the market now here is a company under which many people work so, day before yesterday he was a poor person and he demanded your concern and today he is the enemy of the common people I do not buy that logic if you have talent the system should be fluid so that people can come out and do their own business their own scientific research or artistic endeavours no problem if you have talent you get the bigger piece of the cake if you don't have talent you don't get the bigger piece of the cake I am against capitalist rationalization and brand mongering not against the infrastructure of economy in the first place!!!....

    • @moonookiee
      @moonookiee 2 роки тому

      He is talking like someone has a gun to his head.

  • @aleemqureshi8560
    @aleemqureshi8560 2 роки тому

    incisive, in a manner it is delivered briefly. Would have been better, had it be a little longer and more explanatory.

  • @zainbouali6288
    @zainbouali6288 2 роки тому +2

    I just hope people saw through this bullshit

  • @Okbutiwouldprefernotto
    @Okbutiwouldprefernotto 4 роки тому +9

    Can anyone care to explain why the comment section is full of delusional sobs ?

    • @Barwal7
      @Barwal7 4 роки тому +4

      Not delusional, rational with evidence based logic.

    • @pratikkantode937
      @pratikkantode937 4 роки тому +2

      Will you elaborate the meaning of delusional?

    • @rihansa199
      @rihansa199 4 роки тому +3

      Beautiful your communist ass can't digest the truth

    • @pratikkantode937
      @pratikkantode937 4 роки тому +2

      @@rihansa199 he's anarchist without father....

    • @DattaMusics
      @DattaMusics 3 роки тому +1

      If you love someone so stupid like mohua Mitra who sits there digesting millions of rupees earned through extortion and scams and gives you the lollipop of secularism and you dive into it by definition you are the epitome of delusion....you should change your name from rudra pande which is a name of Lord Shiva to apasmara pandey because that is the demon of ignorance....