Abu Zubaydah: The Fake Terrorist America Tortured

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  • Опубліковано 3 лют 2022
  • This is the story of how the U.S. government made an innocent man out to be a leader of al-Qaeda - how it subjected him to "enhanced interrogation," lied about him, and kept him locked up to this very day. Ismael Loutfi explains.
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  • @brogansmith1342
    @brogansmith1342 2 роки тому +1932

    It's absolutely staggering, the cruelty we can inflict on our fellow human beings.
    That Guantanamo Bay is even open at all is a testament to that.

    • @Trunkssj10
      @Trunkssj10 2 роки тому +24

      Just the USA using the CIA, they make experiments to know wich method of t0rtvr3 works better

    • @johnkesich8696
      @johnkesich8696 2 роки тому +9

      Are we supposed to believe that the CIA didn't know they were peddling a lie when they revealed the home video allegedly found in Afghanistan of the obviously fake bin Laden talking about 9/11?
      Is it more likely that the CIA actually believed Zubaydah was a terrorist mastermind or that they picked him as a convenient scapegoat like the FBI did with Ivens for the anthrax attacks after their attempt to do so to Hatfill failed?
      Why no mention of the fact that bin Laden denied any involvement or knowledge of the attacks in the Pakistani press?
      And how did bin Laden's band of booze swilling, lap dancer fancying, 'Islamic extremist' CIA assets manage to achieve the impossible:
      "Stage 2 (1.75 to 4.0 seconds): gravitational acceleration (free fall)"
      -- NIST's WTC 7 FAQ
      Anyone?

    • @rickb3650
      @rickb3650 2 роки тому +18

      But never forget that we're the good guys and our military is beyond question. God is on our side.

    • @inisr9204
      @inisr9204 2 роки тому +23

      @@rickb3650 This better be sarcasm.

    • @rickb3650
      @rickb3650 2 роки тому +30

      @@inisr9204 Yes, it is. But tragically, it is also the belief of a significant minority, which I suppose, is why we have to ask one another just to be sure.

  • @fuglong
    @fuglong 2 роки тому +1758

    This is so disgusting and disturbing. How anyone could support a government that did and continues to do this is beyond me. Every single highschooler in America should learn about this and every other horrible thing the US government has done.

    • @big_sea
      @big_sea 2 роки тому +31

      preach!

    • @rednova6609
      @rednova6609 2 роки тому +38

      It's disgusting to me how our governments treat people affected by their war of terror like they are just a statistic and strip them of their humanity.
      Most people in Afghanistan don't know what 9/11 is.

    • @nobutternotes
      @nobutternotes 2 роки тому +21

      Critical Race Theory!

    • @quangle-zi2oz
      @quangle-zi2oz 2 роки тому +20

      The people know all about this. They just don't care!

    • @Victor-tl4dk
      @Victor-tl4dk 2 роки тому +15

      Especially a high schooler!
      Middle Schoolers should learn about this.
      Most high schoolers in the US are behind where they should be.

  • @jordylont1879
    @jordylont1879 2 роки тому +577

    They tortured a man that became mentally ill due to violence and had worked on a camp that they themselves set up. That is an incredible level of disgusting

    • @JeremySmith-wc4lh
      @JeremySmith-wc4lh 2 роки тому +11

      THE AUDACITY!

    • @Human_01
      @Human_01 2 роки тому +2

      Agreed! And these COLONIZERS still call and pretend to be white, clean and pure!
      Also, please research 'narcissitic personality disorder' (NPD) / 'cluster-B'; and know that they are the 'root of all evil' (especially 'ESFJ/ESTJ-narcissits'; Myers-Briggs reference, look it up)!
      European 'ESFJ' are the worst personality type, and they are responsible for inventing 'racism' and colonization! It is in their neuro-psychology!!
      The are extremely 'manipulative' and often use 'looking pretty' to distract others from the witch's mind-games / mind-rape, e.g. gaslighting, playing the victim or damsel in distress, creating 'flying-monkeys', and paying others to attack (or at times kill) someone for her. When caught, she will use her minions as scapegoats. European ESFJ are notorious for this especially in a racist context, e.g. Elliott Till.
      Spread the word.
      ___________
      #Save_Soil

    • @francheskavega7251
      @francheskavega7251 2 роки тому

      I just saw his documentary and it pissed me off

    • @GhostSal
      @GhostSal 2 роки тому +4

      And we are the “good guys” of the world

    • @Channel-23s
      @Channel-23s 2 роки тому +2

      We got the wrong information and tried making something outta nothing

  • @austinsetser6081
    @austinsetser6081 2 роки тому +617

    Dismantle and declassify the CIA. These people need to face justice.

    • @Blaqjaqshellaq
      @Blaqjaqshellaq 2 роки тому +55

      One of President Truman's many mistakes was to give the CIA a mandate for "covert operations," which is incompatible with the rule of law.

    • @Happy_Shopper
      @Happy_Shopper 2 роки тому +16

      don't imagine that happening any time soon.

    • @justdev8965
      @justdev8965 2 роки тому +4

      How?! It's like an ant trying to take on a lion!

    • @austinsetser6081
      @austinsetser6081 2 роки тому +24

      @@justdev8965 ants together strong

    • @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
      @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan 2 роки тому +14

      JFK was planning to do just that...

  • @ComradeCatpurrnicus
    @ComradeCatpurrnicus 2 роки тому +1803

    Absolutely sickening, everyone involved in this should be tried for crimes against humanity.

    • @dr.zoidberg8666
      @dr.zoidberg8666 2 роки тому +103

      @No SMOrcing No empire rules forever.

    • @user-wr9hc6gf2n
      @user-wr9hc6gf2n 2 роки тому +42

      True, but the US is starting to paint amnesty international and the humans right watchs as a terrorist organisation now instead.

    • @dr.zoidberg8666
      @dr.zoidberg8666 2 роки тому +46

      @No SMOrcing It's not gonna be centuries. I'd bet my history degree on it.
      Nothing ever happens exactly the same way, but patterns do present themselves in history... and in modern/postmodern history, once a nation or an empire reaches this point, there are 4 basic paths it can take: reactionary coup, socialist revolution, social democratic reform, or disintegration (collapse, civil war, secession, foreign invasion, vassalization, etc.)
      None of these things take centuries once a nation has reached the material conditions that the US is presenting.
      Edit: Even if the worst happened & a fascist regime is established, the majority of fascist regimes don't last longer than 5 years -- & _no_ fascist regime that I'm aware of has ever survived the death of its original dictator.

    • @juliusbeutler7090
      @juliusbeutler7090 2 роки тому +46

      Let's start with Bush. "You're not gonna let me lose face on this, are you?" Absolutely disgusting

    • @manifesttruth7645
      @manifesttruth7645 2 роки тому +24

      @@juliusbeutler7090 took the words right out of my mouth. That man is disgusting. His father was no better considering he claimed to know about the Kennedy assassination a day before the assassination happened when he was director of the CIA in the 60's

  • @condakilla
    @condakilla 2 роки тому +256

    They actually just grabbed some random guy, said he was the biggest bad guy, and tortured him for 20 years to justify expanding their conflicts and starting new ones. Actually truly evil. Natzee-level evil.

    • @quangle-zi2oz
      @quangle-zi2oz 2 роки тому +32

      And he isn't the only one. I'm sure about that !

    • @finlanderxx
      @finlanderxx 2 роки тому +8

      Didn't they just drone some families yesterday and Biden was boasting about it on news conference how they got biggest bad guy as of yet

    • @tesso.6193
      @tesso.6193 2 роки тому +14

      @@finlanderxx 13 dead, 6 children, 4 women. Touted as a "success".

    • @theunbeatable6598
      @theunbeatable6598 2 роки тому +10

      And he's still imprisoned

    • @GhostSal
      @GhostSal 2 роки тому +7

      And we are the “good guys” that the world only hàtés because of our “freedom”. 🤷‍♂️

  • @pavarottiaardvark3431
    @pavarottiaardvark3431 2 роки тому +230

    I don't care what part of the world you are in, if you go "hey I'm offering 10 million dollars for this mysterious guy", they are going to hand you SOMEONE. It's a terrible was to incentivise.

    • @antonioscendrategattico2302
      @antonioscendrategattico2302 2 роки тому +14

      It's these guys' supposed entire job to know this sort of shit and yet... they really just didn't care.

    • @Blaqjaqshellaq
      @Blaqjaqshellaq 2 роки тому +18

      They put up that bounty because they wanted to imprison and torture SOMEONE!

    • @antonioscendrategattico2302
      @antonioscendrategattico2302 2 роки тому +11

      @@Blaqjaqshellaq It's honestly most likely that some fucking apparatchik just thought it'd look good on their resume if he caught someone. People had horrific things done to them just to advance some fuckhead's careers.

    • @SatanasExMachina
      @SatanasExMachina 2 роки тому +3

      I honestly believe that with there being a desperate need for a Scapegoat to appease the masses that the CIA went about it in this manner for the precise reason that they were guaranteed to be handed someone. Anyone. They could have very well known all of this information about the man before they took custody of him, and still would have done the exact same thing only been more careful to ensure no one else ever came by the evidence of his innocence. The CIAs lifeblood is acquisition of information and dissemination of false Intel. "Two things only the people actually desire-bread and games."-Juvenal

    • @GhostSal
      @GhostSal 2 роки тому +6

      And no matter who you are once you are subjected to their “hospitality” you will definitely break and say anything they want you to. So having the “right” guy won’t matter, because once they get you to confess (which everyone will once broken) they always have the “right” guy.

  • @kazmark_gl8652
    @kazmark_gl8652 2 роки тому +620

    I distinctly remember my teacher in Middle School once attempted to justify the torture of these guys as "revenge for all the people killed on 9/11" and because they had killed so many of "our people" we were allowed to torture them. I remember I raised my hand and asked "but aren't we supposed to be better then the bad guys?"

    • @alex0_graham
      @alex0_graham 2 роки тому +75

      Exactly. Solidarity comrade.

    • @beangobernador
      @beangobernador 2 роки тому +56

      school system sucks

    • @MarkAvo
      @MarkAvo 2 роки тому +36

      We’re told the US is the shining city on the hill but when it takes hard work and hard principles to support that belief it’s astonishing how quickly many abandon the concept.

    • @azn3000
      @azn3000 2 роки тому +16

      "Are we the baddies?"

    • @somkeshav4143
      @somkeshav4143 2 роки тому +24

      It’s even made worse once you realize that the culprits who did 9/11 were once funded by the US many decades prior. Oh the irony.

  • @Fedrowreview
    @Fedrowreview 2 роки тому +493

    Abu Zubaydah was just one of many innocents caught up in the war on terror. We threw Muslims into Guantánamo Bay for 20 years to suffer the same treatment as Zubaydah simply because they were wearing a certain type of watch (common in the middle east) that Al Queada would use to time bombs. Prisoners in Abu Ghraib prison were turned into lightbulbs, forced to masturbate in front of US soldiers, threatened with poisonous snakes and trained military dogs, beaten and short shackled daily, etc. Most punishment anyone faced was a seven year jail sentence. Since the end of WWII the American military has been nothing but a force of evil and destruction abroad. Thank you for covering this Gravel Institute, and May everyone hurt by the terroristic arms of Uncle Sam live and Rest In Peace.

    • @quangle-zi2oz
      @quangle-zi2oz 2 роки тому +28

      They still refuse to let the man go. It's so evil. !

    • @yeetyeetonthestreet-colinm1186
      @yeetyeetonthestreet-colinm1186 2 роки тому +4

      lightbulb ? 😯

    • @Channel-23s
      @Channel-23s 2 роки тому +1

      Not that bad tbh compared to isis and the taliban torture is a lot less worst than death by beheading and bombings

    • @Fafnd
      @Fafnd 2 роки тому

      @@Channel-23s take your whataboutism back to hell with you.

    • @voxomnes9537
      @voxomnes9537 2 роки тому +12

      @@Channel-23s What is wrong with you?

  • @hayestaylor97
    @hayestaylor97 2 роки тому +279

    Everyone involved in that torture should be in jail and he should be provided anything he needs to get better. The CIA is disgusting.

    • @strawberrychaos73
      @strawberrychaos73 2 роки тому +26

      Agreed... to the highest levels of government, including Bush and Cheney. It boils my blood that those assholes are allowed to live out the rest of their days in peace.

    • @ImRetarded.
      @ImRetarded. 2 роки тому +14

      There is absolutely no "getting better" from something like this, zero chance.

    • @hussain6469
      @hussain6469 2 роки тому +8

      Jail is too nice for them, they should be tortured over this...

    • @smith2354
      @smith2354 2 роки тому +8

      Just look up Abu Ghraib prison, there's no justice for the atrocities America commits throughout the globe.

    • @waspoppin4784
      @waspoppin4784 2 роки тому +10

      @@hussain6469 no, torturing them wouldn’t make this situation better.
      Don’t be like the CIA, don’t torture people.
      But they do need to go to prison at least.

  • @willt.9654
    @willt.9654 2 роки тому +279

    This is one of you guys’ best pieces yet. The contrast between Bush’s “Don’t let me lose face on this” comment and his cute little dance on Ellen is so vile.

    • @harrywoodman2988
      @harrywoodman2988 2 роки тому +6

      I actually don't put the whole blame on Bush, he shares the blame with the war monger Neo-cons. Don't forget all the chicken hawks he was surrounded with like Cheney and Rumsfeld... old men more than eager to send young men to death on their own side, guess they viewed the other side as something like animals.

  • @renatocorvaro6924
    @renatocorvaro6924 2 роки тому +318

    The US has always been big on war crimes. This is very unsurprising. Keep up the good work Gravel.

  • @strawberrychaos73
    @strawberrychaos73 2 роки тому +983

    "Are we the baddies?" Yes, yes we are. This is horrendous and heartbreaking. Thank you for getting this information out there. It's way past time this Empire fell.

    • @Praisethesunson
      @Praisethesunson 2 роки тому +12

      Can't rule a global empire by being good.

    • @Fafnd
      @Fafnd 2 роки тому +62

      @@Praisethesunson Huh funny I thought the USA was for "democracy" maybe you never should have had an "empire" to begin with.

    • @PistonAvatarGuy
      @PistonAvatarGuy 2 роки тому +2

      If the US falls, China will rise and will be far, FAR worse than the US ever was. The US doesn't need to fall, it needs to improve itself.

    • @redElim
      @redElim 2 роки тому +34

      @@PistonAvatarGuy I don't see a single reason why that would be. The US is and always was more totalitarian and fascistic than the PRC. Also China doesn't intend to become a world police and "leader of the free world". If you knew anything about chinese history, it wouldn't come as a surprise to you that the chinese can leave the world be while still being technologically and economically more advanced.

    • @PistonAvatarGuy
      @PistonAvatarGuy 2 роки тому +9

      @@redElim You're completely delusional and have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

  • @roedagardet
    @roedagardet 2 роки тому +197

    What an awful story, really goes to show how little the CIA actually cares about human life

    • @Praisethesunson
      @Praisethesunson 2 роки тому +30

      Has the CIA ever even pretended to care about human life?

    • @nitrologly
      @nitrologly 2 роки тому +21

      @@Praisethesunson When it serves them, like with the Uyghurs for example.

    • @allthelittleworms
      @allthelittleworms 2 роки тому +2

      @@nitrologly yep, big facts. if they were any more blatantly anti-human people would be blowing up their buildings.

    • @GhostSal
      @GhostSal 2 роки тому +1

      This doesn’t even scratch the surface, if you haven’t looked it to it you might not want to, it will forever change your perception of the “good guys”.

    • @jad2290
      @jad2290 Рік тому

      @@GhostSal
      Are you an American?

  • @uprightape100
    @uprightape100 2 роки тому +168

    "Oopsie" describes nearly all CIA ops if you look closely enough.

  • @nelsonth
    @nelsonth 2 роки тому +176

    the definition of terror should include such acts of state violence as well

    • @solgato5186
      @solgato5186 2 роки тому +17

      USA opposes this, go figure

    • @caijones156
      @caijones156 2 роки тому +2

      ill hear people justify the us saying that terrorists don't fall under the protection of the Geneva convention. by that logic carpet bombing the states would be ok, their the biggest terrorist organisation on earth. or at least on par with china.

  • @ARandomSpace
    @ARandomSpace 2 роки тому +124

    Even if Zubaydah was somehow not innocent, it does not justify the years of tortue he was subjected to. Nobody deserves that. Torture is wrong.

    • @kittycatwithinternetaccess2356
      @kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 2 роки тому

      If he was a jihadist that was part of 911, he'd deserve it and more

    • @TheDarkLord648
      @TheDarkLord648 2 роки тому +4

      No one, no matter what they did, deserves to be tortured

    • @saifuddinmakati843
      @saifuddinmakati843 2 роки тому +12

      @@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 i love how liberals are when they talk about prison and justice reform, they'll always uphold principles of psychological therapy, and ideals of reforming and integrating people into society without violence. But when it comes to foreign criminals they suddenly turn into the fking gestapo.
      Torturing criminals wouldn't bring you peace. Nor would invading their countries. Recognize your condition in theirs. The imperialist system that exploits you at home is the same one that invades their homelands.

    • @Gotti69420
      @Gotti69420 2 роки тому +6

      @@TheDarkLord648 Bush does

    • @thinker6293
      @thinker6293 2 роки тому +3

      @@Gotti69420 a million times over

  • @jdawg443
    @jdawg443 2 роки тому +112

    Obama got into office and was like "hey uh let's uhhh close gitmo" and congress was like "no," and Obama was like "okay" and then it was never a political issue ever again.

    • @GhostSal
      @GhostSal 2 роки тому +3

      When asked about looking into all this (wàr-crímeś), he also said we as a country needed to move forward and not look back. I guaranteed someone made sure he understood his place in government wasn’t what he thought it was and let him know who was really in charge.

    • @kenosabi
      @kenosabi Рік тому

      Obomber was just as bad as Bush. He took 2 conflicts and made them 6-7. He created a modern day slave market in Libya through destabilization. He dropped so many bombs we ran out of bombs. Can you imagine that for a second?
      Fu*k that guy. Dude was like a total lullaby to the left. He just...put em to sleep. That's where I started to break with party lines. Realizing both were just the same monster.

  • @GameVeteran86
    @GameVeteran86 2 роки тому +80

    I’m not a religious person, but I hope that if there is a hell, that there is a special place there for the entire Bush administration.

    • @focumQuarium
      @focumQuarium Рік тому

      Don't worry about Bushes. Worry about whole American people who keep financing these atrocities, who are complacent with their silence. God damn such a country, and He will no doubt, sooner or later!

    • @abidakhamisa8008
      @abidakhamisa8008 Рік тому

      O don't worry there is a hell just for them and what Abu went through will be picnic to what they will go through inshallah

  • @randommodnar7141
    @randommodnar7141 2 роки тому +66

    I had no clue just how innocent this man was

  • @eyyy2271
    @eyyy2271 2 роки тому +201

    Hey, Gravel Institute, could you talk about how Car Centric Urban Planning destroys the very fabric of society in this country, and how it destroys momentum for political movements?

    • @ianreilly9727
      @ianreilly9727 2 роки тому +12

      This climate town video is pretty great ua-cam.com/video/oOttvpjJvAo/v-deo.html

    • @nedludd7622
      @nedludd7622 2 роки тому +2

      It's been done.

    • @eyyy2271
      @eyyy2271 2 роки тому +7

      @@nedludd7622 link?

    • @nedludd7622
      @nedludd7622 2 роки тому +1

      @@eyyy2271 Three clicks on a search engine. I do not spoon feed lazy people.

    • @solgato5186
      @solgato5186 2 роки тому +10

      @@nedludd7622 prove you aren't making it up

  • @breadandroses7
    @breadandroses7 2 роки тому +536

    Gravel always knows how to make me cry. This is why I’m a patreon member. Keep up the amazing work! Amazed you guys haven’t been kicked off UA-cam yet

    • @swissbreeze
      @swissbreeze 2 роки тому

      Abu is the reason millions have died. He’s a coward.

    • @owenc7115
      @owenc7115 2 роки тому +22

      @@swissbreeze
      How many licks does it take to get to the center of a bootsie pop?

    • @paranoikoc
      @paranoikoc 2 роки тому +14

      @@swissbreeze??? The CIA proved his innocence before he was tortured and knew 100% what he was saying was fabricated, yet the almighty capitalists in the US were still blood thirsty, or rather, wanted an excuse to invade the Middle East for oil. Wtf are you talking about?

    • @huntermead859
      @huntermead859 2 роки тому

      @@swissbreeze Yeah, man, the fact that he lied after being tortured by foreign agents for months was his fault, not the fault of the US Government

    • @jad2290
      @jad2290 Рік тому

      Rulling off emotion .. I see

  • @ChrisSudlik
    @ChrisSudlik 2 роки тому +111

    Monsters are dangerous, on your side or others. Gina Haspell's rightful place is prison, has always been. I was disgusted at her rise to head of the CIA, she undoubtedly has no qualms about operating on US soil, violating US and international law, for her personal goals and aims regardless of moral concerns.

    • @flash_flood_area
      @flash_flood_area 2 роки тому +8

      But, but... I heard that everything would be so much better if we simply put more women into positions of power

    • @jonnysac77
      @jonnysac77 2 роки тому +11

      To be fair, the CIA is an awful terror group so it's fitting for someone truly horrible to lead them

    • @oldishandwoke-ish1181
      @oldishandwoke-ish1181 2 роки тому +2

      @@flash_flood_area Ha!

  • @richarddeese1991
    @richarddeese1991 2 роки тому +57

    Gee, I can't possibly imagine why people in other countries might resent America. We're so nice. [?!?!?!?] tavi.

    • @tortellinifettuccine
      @tortellinifettuccine 2 роки тому +8

      If it makes it any better, I'm French and here as well as most of Europe, everyone likes Americans, we just absolutely despise your corrupt government and many large monopolies. I've no doubt if Americans fought back against their government that other nations would support them.

    • @richarddeese1991
      @richarddeese1991 2 роки тому +2

      @@tortellinifettuccine We may have to soon, but it won't be pretty. tavi.

    • @Human_01
      @Human_01 2 роки тому +1

      Agreed!
      Also, please research 'narcissitic personality disorder' (NPD) / 'cluster-B'; and know that they are the 'root of all evil' (especially 'ESFJ/ESTJ-narcissits'; Myers-Briggs reference, look it up)!
      European 'ESFJ' are the worst personality type, and they are responsible for inventing 'racism' and colonization! It is in their neuro-psychology!!
      The are extremely 'manipulative' and often use 'looking pretty' to distract others from the witch's mind-games / mind-rape, e.g. gaslighting, playing the victim or damsel in distress, creating 'flying-monkeys', and paying others to attack (or at times kill) someone for her. When caught, she will use her minions as scapegoats. European ESFJ are notorious for this especially in a racist context, e.g. Elliott Till.
      ISFP (and ESFP) are the most complicit, narcissitic-enablers. ISFP also tend to be 'oblivious-codependants' (look up the definition). This is why they end up in narcissitic relationship and breed with narcissits - risking producing more. All of these personality types are emotionally-disturbed; combined with relatively low intelligence (limited to reciting government academics, and manipulation in the case of ESFJ) this is the source of their problem causing behaviour, psychology, impact on society, as well as misguided mobs/flash mobs, controlled by ESFJ/narcissits. 'ISFP' and ESFP are typical morons who are recruited into cults. ISFP are also secretly hedonistic and literally have the inner mind of a child, hence their secrecy behaviour. They are more evil than they realise. Lastly, Judas-Iscariot is a classic ISFP. His 'oblivious-codependant' psychology/madness, is what lead him to betray Jesus. He just ignored the reality of what he was doing, and continued to fixate on the "reward" / carrot being dangled in front of him. ISFP factually have little humanity (ESFJ; the evil leader and worst, and ESFP are the secondary grunt). All these evil, unsustainable personality types are among the most common. So you should know why humanity is in the case it is in, and why history reflects these cancerous personality types legacy! I bet Hitler's hate for Jews was triggered by a ESFJ-Jew. ESFJ are notorious for trying to make others jealous and creating drama via cheating, and starting smear campaign. They are true sadist. ISFP/ESFP gunts empower and support them.
      Evil personality: ESFJ, ESTJ
      [Secretly] Evil and narcissit-friendly gunts: ISFP, ESFP.
      Spread the word! Thank you.
      ___________
      #Save_Soil

  • @rexx9496
    @rexx9496 2 роки тому +10

    And we have the audacity to stand on our high horse and preach to other countries about human rights. Disgusting.

  • @FoxMacLeod2501
    @FoxMacLeod2501 2 роки тому +299

    Just as it has always been, convincing a citizenry of the reality that, it turns out, _they/we_ are, in fact, The Bad Guys, is critical... yet nigh impossible.
    No matter how far away the battlefields are, or how unethical and inhumane the fighting itself becomes, _every_ soldier (with only rare and insignificant exception), on both sides of every war, genuinely believes themselves a righteous warrior; that _they're_ the ones defending against unjust attack! The average soldier, even those serving the vast majority of truly despicable regimes, believe they are standing in the path of a clear & present danger to their homes and loved ones. People don't generally do evil things unless they believe it's the right thing to do.
    Convincing soldiers they're on the right side is the only way to get them to go to the ends of the Earth to fight wars, to willingly _give their lives,_ for the imperialism and profiteering of the people at the top. Ironically, when pumped full of these lies, and convinced of the importance of their duty -- *_defending_* the just, honorable, and righteous from the designs of the truly wicked -- that's why they feel justified, at least in the moment, to visit acts of unthinkable malice and evil upon the innocent people who have been demonized and dehumanized at every turn.
    That's what they repeated to all our brave boys and girls in Afghanistan and Iraq, not to mention Vietnam: "you have been shipped halfway around the world _in the self-defense of America!"_
    _We_ are, and have long been, The Bad Guys. Not just vilified competition to Russia and China, but truly evil oppressors to peoples around the world who dare to have a successful socialist government. It has been painful to come to terms with, but following the evidence and the truth would have led me nowhere else. When I learned about the things done in furtherance of American interests, I concluded that, for example, to deny American sovereignty over any resource demanded (by the officials who always end up having long been in the jacket pockets of people showcasing the worst behaviors capitalism inherently fosters, by the way), even if it does not belong to or is not owed to the United States, is to be destroyed and forever portrayed as having been in the wrong.
    We are the bad guys.

    • @user-Erimej
      @user-Erimej 2 роки тому +7

      As a Russian, I agree with You. I always think that Russia is in a right path,no matter how many times some Westerners tried to convince Me

    • @user-Erimej
      @user-Erimej 2 роки тому +6

      @@mogensgallardo3288 I know,but Russians don't want to live another Yoke but this time under American Imperialism

    • @jaggillar6680
      @jaggillar6680 2 роки тому +5

      We are one world. This true story is so sad and shameful.

    • @xymaryai8283
      @xymaryai8283 2 роки тому +3

      "Are we the baddies?"

    • @user-Erimej
      @user-Erimej 2 роки тому +5

      @@xymaryai8283 in a Non-Western perspective yes. The Muslims & most of East Asians had been endured Western Imperialism ever since 19th century when even The United States of America involved with Western European Great Powers to turn Asia & other areas into Their Colonial holdings when They mining ALL of It's wealth from unfortunate Muslim & Asian peoples. That's how The West had so much wealth

  • @freedomstar3930
    @freedomstar3930 2 роки тому +71

    May God help this poor man and may he one day be reunited with his loving mother.

    • @user-Erimej
      @user-Erimej 2 роки тому +3

      I agree. Even if His a Muslim,He deserves forgiveness from His God too

    • @quangle-zi2oz
      @quangle-zi2oz 2 роки тому +3

      I don't know,man. The way I see . They won't let him get out of there alive !

    • @justdev8965
      @justdev8965 2 роки тому +2

      Oh yeah! God! He really looked after him! Why don't we just ban the stupid ass word! The most idiotic concept that humans ever came up with is this "God" idea. What a waste!!!

    • @user-Erimej
      @user-Erimej 2 роки тому

      @@justdev8965 are you crazy? Than did You worshipping Satan??

    • @justdev8965
      @justdev8965 2 роки тому +1

      @@user-Erimej 🤣🤣🤣 is there anything inside that skull of yours?

  • @Jakster840
    @Jakster840 2 роки тому +57

    What can be done to stop this and what can we do to hold the people who perpetrate these crimes against humanity accountable? Voting is not enough.

    • @ericsemrow231
      @ericsemrow231 2 роки тому +11

      That's what always gets me about these stories. They're good at pointing out what's wrong but leave you feeling like there's no solution.

    • @Joee1530
      @Joee1530 2 роки тому +10

      Strikes

    • @Urheimat9
      @Urheimat9 2 роки тому +28

      @@ericsemrow231 Countering nationalist propaganda, which is what they are doing here, is part of the solution.

    • @Praisethesunson
      @Praisethesunson 2 роки тому +11

      Obviously collective action by the population to have that unaccountable branch of the U.S imperial government brought to heel.
      Failing that. You could always as an individual head to Langley with some basic artillery and [redacted].

    • @ericsemrow231
      @ericsemrow231 2 роки тому +3

      @@Praisethesunson But, like, what does that mean? Collective action. I'm not a collective. What can _I_ do? I totally support a bunch of the things they talk about here but, to me, it just underscores how powerless one (non-billionaire) person is. It's depressing.

  • @ochaco31
    @ochaco31 2 роки тому +64

    This story sent chills down my spine...

  • @anthony7960
    @anthony7960 2 роки тому +82

    What are we doing? How can we be so evil? How can we exist in a country and in a world so sick and twisted to its core? This really shook me.

    • @fistpump64
      @fistpump64 2 роки тому +14

      you have to look through its history to keep wealthy capitalist happy out country would be the most evil thing to ever exist.

    • @Human_01
      @Human_01 2 роки тому +1

      Agreed!
      Also, please research 'narcissitic personality disorder' (NPD) / 'cluster-B'; and know that they are the 'root of all evil' (especially 'ESFJ/ESTJ-narcissits'; Myers-Briggs reference, look it up)!
      European 'ESFJ' are the worst personality type, and they are responsible for inventing 'racism' and colonization! It is in their neuro-psychology!!
      The are extremely 'manipulative' and often use 'looking pretty' to distract others from the witch's mind-games / mind-rape, e.g. gaslighting, playing the victim or damsel in distress, creating 'flying-monkeys', and paying others to attack (or at times kill) someone for her. When caught, she will use her minions as scapegoats. European ESFJ are notorious for this especially in a racist context, e.g. Elliott Till.
      Spread the word.
      ___________
      #Save_Soil

    • @realtime4698
      @realtime4698 2 роки тому

      Apac is doing all these war . Israeli Zionist are involved in all us war and influence

  • @b1646717
    @b1646717 2 роки тому +31

    I still don't understand why we are not loved unanimously around the world.

  • @tvison1616
    @tvison1616 2 роки тому +35

    once the gov learned they were wrong they should have released him but I supposed they were afraid of him telling his story to the rest of us so they've kept him locked up.

    • @Fafnd
      @Fafnd 2 роки тому +7

      Not only that Bush didn't want to be embarrassed by being called a liar in public. The waste of meat.

  • @andrzejcelinski1
    @andrzejcelinski1 2 роки тому +33

    Damn all those involved in Abu's torture and imprisonment. I am beyond words. Obviously Abu should be freed immediately. Thank you to the Gravel Institute for sharing this story. These stories cannot be swept under the rug; 'evil triumphs when good people stand by and do nothing'

  • @seandawson5899
    @seandawson5899 2 роки тому +74

    The Gravel Institute give me so much insight to the world around me and before me.

  • @bananaz572171
    @bananaz572171 2 роки тому +35

    When they're *so sure* that you're the person they're looking for, how do you prove your innocence?? You can say you don't know anything, but your captors will only believe you're lying to in order to hide things.
    This is absolute madness. This man has done *nothing* wrong and get he's still imprisoned in that horrible place. Tortured and imprisoned all so that fucking idiot "wouldn't lose face."

  • @grants5399
    @grants5399 2 роки тому +26

    torture does not get useful information. we knew this in the 60s (most likely earlier). the tortured will say anything they think the torturers want to hear.
    also bullshit that they completely broke this man, and still thought he was "holding back" like some kind of superhuman commando.

  • @Quixote3
    @Quixote3 2 роки тому +7

    I wake up some mornings and think, my god, no amount of money or power is worth becoming an accessory to the crimes of the world we live in.

  • @covfefe_drumpfh
    @covfefe_drumpfh 2 роки тому +16

    A somewhat parallel case to this was the recent death of (retired) Major Ian Fishback, the military officer who was the whistle-blower of these sort of things.
    His last days were horrible (nearly homeless in the adult foster care system) as well... and all because *HE* alerted us of what the US government was doing to the likes of this poor gentleman.

  • @lukejohnson6415
    @lukejohnson6415 2 роки тому +33

    This is heart breaking I never expected to cry watching one of these videos

  • @DheerajReddyPailla
    @DheerajReddyPailla 2 роки тому +50

    This is incredibly powerful. Absolutely love Ismael's narration, but what a gut wrenching story.

  • @user-wv5gv3dw5u
    @user-wv5gv3dw5u 2 роки тому +21

    The sad part is that I know I could show this to my parents and they'd still say it was justified

    • @justdev8965
      @justdev8965 2 роки тому +4

      I feel your pain. Baby boomers are ignorant to a dumbfounding degree. They believe everything the TV has told them. And I do mean EVERYTHING!

    • @rexx9496
      @rexx9496 2 роки тому +3

      Try asking your parents what if tomorrow when they woke up they found that they had traded places with him. How would they feel then?

    • @thebigdawgj
      @thebigdawgj 2 роки тому

      It was. He was a mudslide.

    • @_GrandZeno
      @_GrandZeno Рік тому +1

      disowen them and then say its justified

  • @heatherclark9405
    @heatherclark9405 2 роки тому +11

    We say power corrupts. We are the most powerful nation in the world. And yet most Americans would never believe that our power has violently corrupted us.

  • @frequentlycynical642
    @frequentlycynical642 2 роки тому +9

    Growing up in the 1950's and 1960's I was fully indoctrinated on our superior nation. I went to Israel and Egypt on business about 1983. When I returned to Kennedy, I would have kissed the ground if I could have.
    Today, I'd love to leave America. But I'm old with no reason for an other nation to take me. I have tadpoles and grand-tadpoles here.
    I see today that the Republican party pronounced the January 6th insurrection "political discourse." Sheer insanity.
    American democracy is on its last days, I fear.

    • @flakkkk
      @flakkkk 2 роки тому

      do you have any advice for the youngsters

    • @luckarm5481
      @luckarm5481 2 роки тому

      I’m Egyptian and i honestly think America has always been like this and way worse, from the horrible acts of slavery and oppression throughout its entire history to spreading terrorism throughout the middle east. America and American democracy has always been like this.

    • @frequentlycynical642
      @frequentlycynical642 2 роки тому

      @@luckarm5481 With all respect, no America has NOT always "been like this." Problems, issues, sure. Many resolved over time. Sometimes with blood. I'm 75, I used to teach history. Trust me, this is a phase for which there is no precedent.

  • @LexYeen
    @LexYeen 2 роки тому +17

    The things that we can do to others when we dehumanize them are, in a word, horrifying.
    Thanks, Gravel Institute.

  • @thirdpedalnirvana
    @thirdpedalnirvana 2 роки тому +19

    How long is it going to take Humanity to realize that torture does not get prisoners to spill sensitive information. All it does is get them to say whatever they think their interrogator wants to hear

    • @justdev8965
      @justdev8965 2 роки тому +3

      I believe firmly that someone who is capable of torture is not capable of thinking. At all!

    • @waltmansan520
      @waltmansan520 Рік тому

      and that is the real reason for its use

  • @flash_flood_area
    @flash_flood_area 2 роки тому +13

    Thank you for shedding light on this horrific crime. It's so wretched to know that our country is run by evil people who do things like this in our name

  • @Tom-it6gi
    @Tom-it6gi 2 роки тому +8

    "I said he was important... You're not going to let me lose face on this, are you?" Given what he was talking about, that's one of the worst Bush quotes I've heard, and I didn't know of it until just now.

  • @brixton9655
    @brixton9655 2 роки тому +17

    Quote from his co-counselor;
    "Partly as a result of injuries he suffered while he was fighting the communists in Afghanistan, partly as a result of how those injuries were exacerbated by the CIA and partly as a result of his extended isolation, Zubaydah's mental grasp is slipping away. Today, he suffers blinding headaches and has permanent brain damage. He has an excruciating sensitivity to sounds, hearing what others do not. The slightest noise drives him nearly insane. In the last two years alone, he has experienced about 200 seizures. Already, he cannot picture his mother's face or recall his father's name. Gradually, his past, like his future, eludes him."

    • @nixiontm
      @nixiontm Рік тому +1

      He will have a special place in Heaven

  • @quangle-zi2oz
    @quangle-zi2oz 2 роки тому +9

    How Abu Zubaydah managed to survive several shots to the head is beyond my imagination and yet his ordeal hadn't yet to begin. Poor man !

  • @wraithwrecker_
    @wraithwrecker_ 2 роки тому +38

    One of the best videos from Gravel in a while. Keep up the good work.

  • @christopherantonio3612
    @christopherantonio3612 2 роки тому +7

    The fact that those villains are still working for the CIA and free is ridiculous. The US has no moral standing in this world.

  • @WhiteGuyTellNoLies
    @WhiteGuyTellNoLies 2 роки тому +41

    Wow just wow! This is sickening! Who holds Gina accountable? I wonder if these individuals believe in God?

    • @solgato5186
      @solgato5186 2 роки тому +1

      have you seen the god they believe in?

    • @Joee1530
      @Joee1530 2 роки тому +3

      I donet believe in god but I hope he’ll exists so these people can suffer

    • @TheOrangeMamba
      @TheOrangeMamba 2 роки тому +4

      Not only do they believe in God, but they try to use it to justify these sick acts.

    • @quangle-zi2oz
      @quangle-zi2oz 2 роки тому

      They still sleeps well every night. It's safe to say they don't believe in anything !

  • @Dan-ud8hz
    @Dan-ud8hz 2 роки тому +10

    That line from his diary about offending his mother lands close to home.

  • @jenm1
    @jenm1 2 роки тому +6

    I feel sick. I can’t imagine how this young man must feel. It’s sickening

  • @urbroz
    @urbroz 2 роки тому +36

    This is so horrific, thank you for making this video

  • @Caero_
    @Caero_ 2 роки тому +30

    Downloading this incase it gets taken down or privated 👍

    • @kevintewey1157
      @kevintewey1157 2 роки тому

      Have you confirm this happening?

    • @kevintewey1157
      @kevintewey1157 2 роки тому +1

      I've even had videos taken down
      I thought it was something that a viewer could do
      but I don't think they have that power
      And it came right after a big debate in the comment section

    • @Yingjie100
      @Yingjie100 2 роки тому +1

      wait, why do you think it would get taken down? i'm confused.

    • @Caero_
      @Caero_ 2 роки тому +2

      @@kevintewey1157 Their video about China becoming rich & Russia becoming poor became private

    • @Caero_
      @Caero_ 2 роки тому

      @@Yingjie100 Their video about China getting rich & Russia getting poor got privated.

  • @LisaLightning
    @LisaLightning 2 роки тому +17

    Oh my God this makes me want to cry. Someone needs to get this video viral or to the few people in government who give a shit. And we go on about our moral superiority! What a joke!

    • @aureliangepu636
      @aureliangepu636 2 роки тому +4

      Check Delawary case an innocent Afghan taxi driver who was arrested by CIA and tortured to death the necropsy of his soulless body was showing if he survived his legs needed to be amputated because was looking like he was rolled over by a car

  • @I_havea_Doubt
    @I_havea_Doubt 2 роки тому +5

    This is Called " CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY " .

  • @celestialdancer6293
    @celestialdancer6293 2 роки тому +7

    It's so freaking wild to me that torture seems to always only be used against people that don't actually deserve it, while the most horrible people on earth get off scot-free, they're even praised for it.

  • @Theo-oh3jk
    @Theo-oh3jk 2 роки тому +15

    The fact that certain people are still alive utterly astounds me. If there were any justice in the world, certain people would have been brought to justice, along with their families. But, there is no justice in the world, and these are idle hypothetical musings.

  • @aaronbecker5617
    @aaronbecker5617 2 роки тому +7

    And we have the nerve to wonder why so many hate us

  • @batskink533
    @batskink533 2 роки тому +19

    Adam Curtis does a fantastic job presenting the gut wrenching details of his suffering during a haze of confusion where he struggled to put togetehr just how he had arrived in cia custody in the first place.

  • @SulaimanamialuS
    @SulaimanamialuS 2 роки тому +11

    It's funny/sad how brutal barbarism can be covered with a nice suit. "Civilized society"

  • @realtijuana5998
    @realtijuana5998 2 роки тому +12

    « Toute nation a le gouvernement qu'elle mérite. »
    - Joseph de Maistre, 1857

  • @oldskyggen2423
    @oldskyggen2423 2 роки тому +7

    "The critical work of helping protect our country, our people, and our way of life." --Gina Haspel
    Said without a tinge of irony.

  • @maxtornogood
    @maxtornogood 2 роки тому +7

    If that kind of torture doesn't break a man I don't know what will, absolutely brutal!

  • @kingtrilly266
    @kingtrilly266 2 роки тому +7

    May Allah make it easy for him ameen

    • @aureliangepu636
      @aureliangepu636 2 роки тому +1

      Ameen mi brother innocent people like him will go straight to jannah

  • @divyanshd3969
    @divyanshd3969 2 роки тому +7

    Wow, that shook me a little. Let this man be free and provide him whatever he needs to rehabilitate.

  • @burnt-reynolds
    @burnt-reynolds 2 роки тому +6

    How does one not feel unadulterated rage about this?

  • @FalcFalcFalcFalc
    @FalcFalcFalcFalc 2 роки тому +8

    This is just straight up sad.

  • @wrenbd4015
    @wrenbd4015 2 роки тому +9

    god how am I supposed to continue on knowing this tragic story and that he's still kept in detention? get this man some extreme help and his mother

  • @burnindownthehouse
    @burnindownthehouse 2 роки тому +8

    Sad. Very sad, indeed. They probably knew right away that he knew of no useful information whatsoever, but they decided to keep him there and torture him for their own sadistic purposes. The sick people who tortured him got a high out of doing it day after day. They just wanted to watch a human being suffer so they could get their kicks from it. It was a very sick form of fun for them. Now he is still imprisoned because the CIA is afraid that he might tell people what happened to him if he were freed. In other words, they're keeping the guy locked up for life just to avoid a public relations mess. Humanity at its worst.

  • @Eltrio2
    @Eltrio2 2 роки тому +4

    Just when I thought I was too jaded to be affected by CIA torture, they somehow found a way to make me sick. What the actual fuck?

  • @murraymadness4674
    @murraymadness4674 2 роки тому +14

    We need to do some enhanced interrogation of Gina Haspel to see what she knows and has hidden. When there is no responsibility, people can do anything, look at examples all over history.

  • @christopherdavidson8028
    @christopherdavidson8028 2 роки тому +5

    Bone-chilling. Thank you for telling his story.

  • @user-mh4wl1zc9i
    @user-mh4wl1zc9i 2 роки тому +10

    Fantastic work.
    Do a piece on Steven Donziger next.

  • @JP-sm4cs
    @JP-sm4cs 2 роки тому +4

    I would love it if you guys made a channel for the UK and/or Europe!

  • @eakherenow
    @eakherenow 2 роки тому +4

    This is who we are, this is what we allow, what we don't bother to know.Thank you for putting this truth out but anyone watching is already with you and we'll never get 60% of the population to
    look for the truth.

  • @lamarreerickson3502
    @lamarreerickson3502 2 роки тому +2

    Keep it up Gravel. Love this Chanel !!!

  • @endTHEhegemony_Today
    @endTHEhegemony_Today 2 роки тому +2

    That is so cruel.
    It is terrible that not wanting to be perceived as wrong can drive a government to torture a possobly innocent man that long.
    🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤
    Thank you for making this piece. I was too young to know what went on while it was girst happening. I appreciate the information. That
    Poor man, and the countless others being treated this way... it makes me so sad.
    Much love for making this information available!!!

  • @rjones197
    @rjones197 2 роки тому +6

    When we march, I'll have already been here. Public civil disobedience, not participating in the capital economy,, and hard lining help to those who need it. I know Im done fore, but my daughter has a chance. Lets change this.

  • @moosesandmeese969
    @moosesandmeese969 2 роки тому +3

    I seriously cried over this video. I never thought a youtube video would break me
    For nearly 20 years, this man has been tortured by the US government over a political campaign, despite having no involvement in terrorist activity. This is the government I live under

  • @nusratjesi1562
    @nusratjesi1562 Рік тому +2

    This is so disturbing that people can destroy somebody's life and easily get away with it. "The country of justice" actually failed the justice just to prove a wrong sentence right. I'm nauseated of disgust .

  • @kristinmeyer489
    @kristinmeyer489 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm ashamed of the actions of many in my country.

  • @user-em6ie2be7x
    @user-em6ie2be7x 2 роки тому +14

    This is Disgusting...America doesn't get the right to whine about Human Rights Violation ANYWHERE in the world. 💢

    • @spacemanx9595
      @spacemanx9595 2 роки тому +1

      Oh did your Chinese masters say that? Just because USA bad doesn't mean China or Russia or Saudi Arabia get a pass.

    • @user-em6ie2be7x
      @user-em6ie2be7x 2 роки тому +8

      @@spacemanx9595 Spare me your Fake Patriotism/Gaslighting BS all those countries have done the same things one time or another too, So don't hold up America as some sort of beacon of Morality. You just come off sounding Brainless.

    • @aphilosophicalnaturalist6245
      @aphilosophicalnaturalist6245 2 роки тому +1

      If by "America" you mean US government officials, then maybe yes, but this does not apply to all people living in the US.

  • @AgentMidnight
    @AgentMidnight 2 роки тому +8

    Horrifying.

  • @ataraxia7439
    @ataraxia7439 2 роки тому +2

    There are no words. We have to find a way to ensure this can't continue.

    • @hiddencryptid
      @hiddencryptid 2 роки тому +1

      The stupidly rich will always find a way to keep the money flowing in the form of "defense spending". See: Ukraine, our new proxy war of the time. But remember, they will also divide, torture, jail, and kill us, to keep that wealth. but you probably knew that...

  • @Giorgio825
    @Giorgio825 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for your work.

  • @dc2guy2
    @dc2guy2 2 роки тому +7

    Sorry I can't get over the part where he already survived having shrapnel from an earlier incident lodged in his brain, then being shot in the head not once but several times during the raid and again surviving?!?! How many lives does this guy have???

  • @esquizo1565
    @esquizo1565 2 роки тому +6

    i love how right-wingers never even comment on this type of video. there isnt a justification.

    • @thebigdawgj
      @thebigdawgj 2 роки тому

      There is justification. Guy was a mudslide.

    • @thebigdawgj
      @thebigdawgj Рік тому

      @@AC-my3rg
      No u.

  • @yaqubahmed2395
    @yaqubahmed2395 Рік тому +1

    My heart was bleeding while listening to the disturbing description of horrendous amount torture that wat put to this innocent guy. I can't help thanking Gravel Institute for covering these clandestine story and give them a voice.

  • @andrewmcknight1194
    @andrewmcknight1194 Рік тому

    You guys are excellent. To hell with Prager. I hope you manage to keep up the good work and keep putting these videos out. I am going to watch them all. Good luck winning the information war. I am sure it is quite a struggle.

  • @DerekSpeareDSD
    @DerekSpeareDSD 2 роки тому +10

    If knowing this one fact doesn't make you ashamed of being an "american" (whatever that is), then there is no hope for you or this nation.

    • @hiddencryptid
      @hiddencryptid 2 роки тому +3

      We aren't americans, we are serfs.

  • @loganhurley5590
    @loganhurley5590 2 роки тому +5

    I don't know how I could stand living and knowing any of this if I didn't believe God judged evil and empire.

  • @Zift_Ylrhavic_Resfear
    @Zift_Ylrhavic_Resfear 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the video

  • @anikhanj
    @anikhanj 2 роки тому +4

    Words cannot describe how ashamed I am.

  • @paranoikoc
    @paranoikoc 2 роки тому +4

    Love the vids! It's always good to learn about the REAL enemy

  • @surgeland9084
    @surgeland9084 2 роки тому +3

    The case of Omar Khadr also comes to mind.

  • @davitdavid7165
    @davitdavid7165 2 роки тому +1

    This is why it is important to increace transparancy and have actually free journalism.

  • @TunaFreeDolphinMeat
    @TunaFreeDolphinMeat 2 роки тому +6

    This type of behavior and treatment begets and inspires the very thing it is supposedly trying to eliminate.