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I'm laughing my ass off to the idea of a bunch of engineers figuring out how to put wheels on a ship and trying the steer one in the open land with violent winds. Must've been unwieldy as hell if they actually did that.
A modernish version -- Porlock UK --On 12 January 1899, RNLI lifeboat volunteers undertook one of our most arduous feats to date - dragging a lifeboat overnight in terrible weather to launch in aid of a ship in distress. This was a 13-mile journey which included a quarter gradient climb of 434m over Countisbury Hill and a trek across Exmoor. The overland journey was re-enacted in daylight on 12 January 1999 to commemorate its centenary.
Ever notice how Australia is full of white people descendant from (mainly) England and Scotland? Lol. The Aborigines are not in charge in case you hadn't noticed
@@balticempire7244well Australia is absolutely a "European" country. Just not a country in Europe. Same for Great Britian. They just happen to be Islands. Just as I am a European man, but not a man who lives in Europe.
@@balticempire7244 Our ancestors children in Ukraine should surely appreciate if you change your spelling of their beloved city of Kyiv from the Russian Kiev. Slava Ukraine from Sweden 🖖🇸🇪🇪🇺✊🇺🇦
Its fun to think about how my home town used to be mostly under water during viking times and that the highest point would have been a small rock near the shore where vikings would land to raid finland
Odin was said to own a ship he could fold in his pocket. I've always wondered if it meant he had large canoes covered with hides. When the river became impracticable, he would just remove the hides, take them over the portage, cut new trees to make the canoe's skeleton, fit the hide on them and continue their travel.
Ohthere of Hålogaland in his travels to the far north during the late 9th century also mentions the Kvens, a Finnic group, using small and portable vessels to raid the Norse. This was described to Alfred the Great of Wessex and then written down as follows: "[Ohthere] said that the Norwegians' land was very long and very narrow and to the east are wild mountains, parallel to the cultivated land. Finnas inhabit these mountains. Then along this land southwards, on the other side of the mountain, is Sweden and along that land northwards, Kvenland. The Kvens sometimes make depredations on the Northmen over the mountain, and sometimes the Northmen on them; there are very large meres amongst the mountains, and the Kvens carry their ships over land into the meres, and thence make depredations on the Northmen; they have very little ships, and very light."
The Viking moved rather big boats over portages. The 15 km portage from Haithabu to the Treene river was used for seagoing boats. It was a corduroy road. The use of this portage avoided the travel around Jutland, when you wanted to go west. You followed first the Rheider Au, than the Treene, Eider and end up in the North Sea.
In my work as an chief engineer on ships and shipyards in Norway i have a theory about the "extra" keel the Vikings use to have on their ships. They just used the keel and dragged the ship, just like they still are doing in lofoten and nordland in Norway. Just like a motorcycle its easy to balance the ship with people who are both pushing and balancing the ship. Most places had no roads and they used the growth grass and moss to make it easier to pull and dragging them. Thanks for your reporting about all our ancestors. Slava Ukraine from Sweden
A cool story about the use of viking ships inland; In the year 1100 CE, King Sigurd Jorsalfar of Norway (Sigurd the crusader) won his maybe most famous battle, mostly due to the unorthodox and efficient tactic he used. The local foes, north africans would be a more correct to call them by todays names, went up the mountains and hid in an old cave, that archeologists have found people have used to live in for thousands of years. The cave was as made for protecting against assaults of all kinds, but Sigurd did not give up. He and his crusaders pulled two boats up the backside of the mountain, filled them up with archers and lowered them down the mountainside in front of the cave and massacered the defenders. This was also the during his crusade to Jerusalem, as the first king to do so. (Sigurd was of the house of Hardrada and the last great king before the 110 year long civil war devastated Norway and the black death put all the rest of the nails in the coffin of a promising nation. Took a long time to bounce back from that.)
Søren Ryge from the Danish National Television (DR) once made a program about how the Norse or Vikings dragged their longboats across land. It was quite simple with the use of planks of wood.
In Scotland (and I believe Ireland), there are many places (often villages) called Tarbert (13 in Scotland). This is derived from the old Gaelic TAR "across" and BER "to carry". These are all isthmuses between bodies of water. The most obvious one is Tarbert on the Isle of Harris
I live in Sweden and at the end of the video you mentioned the name draget and that instantaneously rang a bell for me as it was the name of a bus stop I pass ..looking at a Google map now I see the way too uppsala would be open by boat. When I have time I will look along it ...but there is another way more open I would of thought near a place called staket where access nowadays to uppsala is easier ...but if the water levels were higher mmm
Right. This is mostly speculative B.S. It would be easier to just make another boat, which is what they did. Journeys were done in discreet segments. One boat did not make the whole journey. Simply impractical. You can portage a birch bark canoe, but you're not going to portage an oak clinker-built longboat. Like alot of other "Viking" fantasies, this is mostly wishful thinking.
You forgot Schløyen the third passage from and to the Limfjord mentioned in the Icelandic Sagas. A North west passage to Jammerbugten north Sea over land in a canal it was in use untill 1500 an is still there this day but not longer connected to North Sea a ship Dutch kogge was found 2 km in land at Kollerup from around 1400-1500
In Norway we got many places named EID or DRAGEID. This was places the vikings pulled their ships over land just to save time or awoiding rough waters. Just a practical way of traveling.😊 greatings from the western viking part of Norway😊
I tend to despise illustrated cartoon history on youtube. That said the barebones tapestry style you have used here isn't too distracting, quite tasteful actually. Well done
Here's an interesting modern comparison to portages and their social dynamics. ••• In some modern day sub-Saharan African countries, the roads are in a very bad state of disrepair. At certain particularly difficult and muddy sections of those roads, the locals sit on the sides, waiting for the next transport truck to get mired into the deep thick mud. Said locals then offer to said truck's operators to pull them out of the mud for a fee. Whatever fee they choose is usually considered fair, since no other option is available.
Jag håller för närvarande på med videor där jag går igenom primära källor på originalspråk, såsom exempelvis tänkbara avsnitt om eriksgatan, ledungen, gutasagan mfl. Skulle du vara intresserad av att kanske gör ett samarbete där du står för det historiska sammanhanget och jag presenterar och översätter källorna?
9:46 if by Semiramis (Greek translation) you mean the historical Empress of Assyria Sammu-Rammat, Wife of Shamsi Adad V, mother of the King Adad-Nirari III, then no she was not at all mythical.
I had a big ass canoe and we had to carry it five miles I have never cursed and kicked shit so much in my life seemed like we would get five feet and it would snag on something and we'd fall or someone would trip
Unrelated but I thought you should know that Mary Read and I have been seeing each other since the live stream. She thinks it’s funny when I send a senator to fight a lion. But good video as usual.
@@montanelas6716 He's got at least another channel with 70k views which I get is not much either, but these ads just show total disregard to you the viewer.What if this chump buys a useless service? I gotta pay the bills, so fuck em. There are many good sponsors out there, which may not pay as much and not pay as generously as these but again, it's about respecting your audience and respecting their time.
No using women and children slaves to be pulling the boat 😅😅😅 You don't think??? It might have been against the slave union rules 😊😅 Anyway, great channel 🖖 I hope the Georgian people succeed in their search for democracy and freedom ✊
@@balticempire7244 Wrong. Written history was oral history before it was written. Many "ancient" traditions are still being practiced. People who build boats and people who move boats know more about it than housebound bookworms with no experience in either. Most of written history is actually propaganda with intentional political distortions, and Archeaology comes down to a subjective interpretation, biased by the observer's lack of real world skills, lack of personal experiences and spineless conformity to an established dogma/political narrative. Where's the "real history" amidst that noise?
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Online for profit therapy? Sounds dodgy af
I'm laughing my ass off to the idea of a bunch of engineers figuring out how to put wheels on a ship and trying the steer one in the open land with violent winds. Must've been unwieldy as hell if they actually did that.
I’m always impressed by how these ancient folks figure stuff out, but I’m really glad I exist well beyond this era of trial and error lol.
A modernish version -- Porlock UK --On 12 January 1899, RNLI lifeboat volunteers undertook one of our most arduous feats to date - dragging a lifeboat overnight in terrible weather to launch in aid of a ship in distress. This was a 13-mile journey which included a quarter gradient climb of 434m over Countisbury Hill and a trek across Exmoor. The overland journey was re-enacted in daylight on 12 January 1999 to commemorate its centenary.
0:28 "In many European countries..." is illustrated using a video clip from the opera house in Sidney, Australia...
I knew someone was going to comment this!
Ever notice how Australia is full of white people descendant from (mainly) England and Scotland? Lol. The Aborigines are not in charge in case you hadn't noticed
@@balticempire7244well Australia is absolutely a "European" country. Just not a country in Europe. Same for Great Britian. They just happen to be Islands. Just as I am a European man, but not a man who lives in Europe.
@@balticempire7244 Our ancestors children in Ukraine should surely appreciate if you change your spelling of their beloved city of Kyiv from the Russian Kiev.
Slava Ukraine from Sweden 🖖🇸🇪🇪🇺✊🇺🇦
Its fun to think about how my home town used to be mostly under water during viking times and that the highest point would have been a small rock near the shore where vikings would land to raid finland
Odin was said to own a ship he could fold in his pocket. I've always wondered if it meant he had large canoes covered with hides. When the river became impracticable, he would just remove the hides, take them over the portage, cut new trees to make the canoe's skeleton, fit the hide on them and continue their travel.
Ohthere of Hålogaland in his travels to the far north during the late 9th century also mentions the Kvens, a Finnic group, using small and portable vessels to raid the Norse. This was described to Alfred the Great of Wessex and then written down as follows:
"[Ohthere] said that the Norwegians' land was very long and very narrow and to the east are wild mountains, parallel to the cultivated land. Finnas inhabit these mountains. Then along this land southwards, on the other side of the mountain, is Sweden and along that land northwards, Kvenland. The Kvens sometimes make depredations on the Northmen over the mountain, and sometimes the Northmen on them; there are very large meres amongst the mountains, and the Kvens carry their ships over land into the meres, and thence make depredations on the Northmen; they have very little ships, and very light."
Man I'm glad you're getting sponsors but you should filter out scammers and charlatans like Better Help and Established Titles, etc.
True that
The Viking moved rather big boats over portages. The 15 km portage from Haithabu to the Treene river was used for seagoing boats. It was a corduroy road. The use of this portage avoided the travel around Jutland, when you wanted to go west. You followed first the Rheider Au, than the Treene, Eider and end up in the North Sea.
In my work as an chief engineer on ships and shipyards in Norway i have a theory about the "extra" keel the Vikings use to have on their ships.
They just used the keel and dragged the ship, just like they still are doing in lofoten and nordland in Norway.
Just like a motorcycle its easy to balance the ship with people who are both pushing and balancing the ship.
Most places had no roads and they used the growth grass and moss to make it easier to pull and dragging them.
Thanks for your reporting about all our ancestors.
Slava Ukraine from Sweden
Moreover I have studied the places in Borlange where they did just that, and the name of the city means....
And my aphasia kicked in 😢
Baltic Empire published a new video, everyone gather!
Thank you for yet another wonderful historical documentary! The earlier history of the Baltic and nearby eastern Europe is a really interesting topic!
A cool story about the use of viking ships inland; In the year 1100 CE, King Sigurd Jorsalfar of Norway (Sigurd the crusader) won his maybe most famous battle, mostly due to the unorthodox and efficient tactic he used. The local foes, north africans would be a more correct to call them by todays names, went up the mountains and hid in an old cave, that archeologists have found people have used to live in for thousands of years. The cave was as made for protecting against assaults of all kinds, but Sigurd did not give up. He and his crusaders pulled two boats up the backside of the mountain, filled them up with archers and lowered them down the mountainside in front of the cave and massacered the defenders. This was also the during his crusade to Jerusalem, as the first king to do so. (Sigurd was of the house of Hardrada and the last great king before the 110 year long civil war devastated Norway and the black death put all the rest of the nails in the coffin of a promising nation. Took a long time to bounce back from that.)
That is both amazing and terrifying.
Ngl that ad break was a banger.
I want to see you portage an Iowa class battleship !
Søren Ryge from the Danish National Television (DR) once made a program about how the Norse or Vikings dragged their longboats across land. It was quite simple with the use of planks of wood.
In Scotland (and I believe Ireland), there are many places (often villages) called Tarbert (13 in Scotland). This is derived from the old Gaelic TAR "across" and BER "to carry". These are all isthmuses between bodies of water. The most obvious one is Tarbert on the Isle of Harris
I had plans initially to talk about portages in Scotland but it didn't make it sadly.
There's still a portage on the Trent Severn canal. About a 60 foot lift with rail cars to carry the boats.
I live in Sweden and at the end of the video you mentioned the name draget and that instantaneously rang a bell for me as it was the name of a bus stop I pass ..looking at a Google map now I see the way too uppsala would be open by boat. When I have time I will look along it ...but there is another way more open I would of thought near a place called staket where access nowadays to uppsala is easier ...but if the water levels were higher mmm
Dragging a ship sounds like a lot of work, I would simply just die
There were at least 58 more people who dragged that ship with you, so it's not that horrible as it sounds.
And people were in better physical shape
Right. This is mostly speculative B.S. It would be easier to just make another boat, which is what they did. Journeys were done in discreet segments. One boat did not make the whole journey. Simply impractical. You can portage a birch bark canoe, but you're not going to portage an oak clinker-built longboat. Like alot of other "Viking" fantasies, this is mostly wishful thinking.
Fitzcarraldo greatest portage on film.
Now a days your boat is made of plastic, and you have to drag it across course concrete.
You forgot Schløyen the third passage from and to the Limfjord mentioned in the Icelandic Sagas. A North west passage to Jammerbugten north Sea over land in a canal it was in use untill 1500 an is still there this day but not longer connected to North Sea a ship Dutch kogge was found 2 km in land at Kollerup from around 1400-1500
In Norway we got many places named EID or DRAGEID. This was places the vikings pulled their ships over land just to save time or awoiding rough waters. Just a practical way of traveling.😊 greatings from the western viking part of Norway😊
AArgh...you beat me to it ;.-)
Great publishment, love your work, found this one particular interesting , thanks! =)
Quality content, well documented (as always) Nice job !
Lunne (modern spelling if Hlunnar) is still used in Norwegian as both a verb (to store logs), and a noun (a pile of stored logs)
I have carried a 40 foot replica viking ship aboout 100 ft with a group of reenactors. It wasn't too bad, but I wouldn't want to do it for miles.
I tend to despise illustrated cartoon history on youtube. That said the barebones tapestry style you have used here isn't too distracting, quite tasteful actually. Well done
Here's an interesting modern comparison to portages and their social dynamics.
•••
In some modern day sub-Saharan African countries, the roads are in a very bad state of disrepair. At certain particularly difficult and muddy sections of those roads, the locals sit on the sides, waiting for the next transport truck to get mired into the deep thick mud.
Said locals then offer to said truck's operators to pull them out of the mud for a fee.
Whatever fee they choose is usually considered fair, since no other option is available.
That would be good if it didn't incentivize the locals to purposefully damage the roads
The Morrowind music made it impossible for me to pay attention now I just wanna play Morrowind
Jag håller för närvarande på med videor där jag går igenom primära källor på originalspråk, såsom exempelvis tänkbara avsnitt om eriksgatan, ledungen, gutasagan mfl. Skulle du vara intresserad av att kanske gör ett samarbete där du står för det historiska sammanhanget och jag presenterar och översätter källorna?
Of course, you couldn't travel the Scandinavian rivers with a Viking ship anymore because, there is road construction in the way.
9:46 if by Semiramis (Greek translation) you mean the historical Empress of Assyria Sammu-Rammat, Wife of Shamsi Adad V, mother of the King Adad-Nirari III, then no she was not at all mythical.
Wait, this is the same guy that does Gold and Gunpowder right? I love ur videos!
Always has been...
How did they have the energy to do this, and hunt, and find food, water, etc etc??
I had a big ass canoe and we had to carry it five miles I have never cursed and kicked shit so much in my life seemed like we would get five feet and it would snag on something and we'd fall or someone would trip
dudes will put wheels on ships and try and sail it, and make tracks for ships to roll on land, before figuring out how to make a train
Excellent Information and presented so well. One point it was Princess Olha of Kyiv. Hopefully wiki will catch up once the war ends in Ukraine.
Olga of Kiev*
i recognize this voice.. its pirate daddy aint it
Sips gang represent.
Unrelated but I thought you should know that Mary Read and I have been seeing each other since the live stream. She thinks it’s funny when I send a senator to fight a lion.
But good video as usual.
your meds, sir 💊💊💊
Man, you sound a lot like the pirate guy?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Yes I know he has another channel I'm being stupid
i promise if you take 10% of the goofyness from the add it to your videosyoull gain a whole new demographic
So we're just not gonna give a shit that our sponsor is a straight up scam? Cool.
He has to pay the bills i guess. im guessing a channel whit 26k subs doesnt get many offers,
@@montanelas6716 He's got at least another channel with 70k views which I get is not much either, but these ads just show total disregard to you the viewer.What if this chump buys a useless service? I gotta pay the bills, so fuck em.
There are many good sponsors out there, which may not pay as much and not pay as generously as these but again, it's about respecting your audience and respecting their time.
Yeah, these guys are almost as bad as "established titles". I wouldn't wanna be affiliated or associated with them in any way.
drög my guy
I see BetterHelp is back on their scamming spree once more sponsoring UA-camrs. Guess 4 years worth is about how much they skimmed last time.
No using women and children slaves to be pulling the boat 😅😅😅
You don't think???
It might have been against the slave union rules 😊😅
Anyway, great channel 🖖
I hope the Georgian people succeed in their search for democracy and freedom ✊
This is mostly clutching at straws. Maybe this....maybe that......maybe something else.
This is what most of history is like: filling in the gaps between what little available archaeological and written evidence there is.
@@balticempire7244 Wrong. Written history was oral history before it was written. Many "ancient" traditions are still being practiced. People who build boats and people who move boats know more about it than housebound bookworms with no experience in either. Most of written history is actually propaganda with intentional political distortions, and Archeaology comes down to a subjective interpretation, biased by the observer's lack of real world skills, lack of personal experiences and spineless conformity to an established dogma/political narrative. Where's the "real history" amidst that noise?
Ah yes, the dogma and political narrative of how boats were transported overland. Time to zip up that pillow.
Your accent is waay too strong...
Make a little effort..
Rus people were not vikings
Fake