Post-script comments: - Some people in the comments pointed out that I mistakingly referred to the tribe of Krivics as Finnic whilst they were Slavic. Please note that I am unable to edit these videos after they've been uploaded, the best thing I can do is make these post-script comments. - I get a few comments on this video and others pushing a narrative that because the modern word "Slave" stems from "Slav", this means that Eastern Europeans were enslaved by vikings. It is true that eastern europeans were taken as thralls to Scandinavia(along with Celts, Southern Europeans), and sold as slaves to the Caliphate. This is not where the modern word "Slave" comes from. It comes from Venetians buying Slavic prisoners from the Balkans and Bohemia and selling them as slaves to the Muslims. In this period and even later, it was common to refer to slaves by their ethnic identity. "I bought a group of Slavs", "I bought a group of negroes", etc. Because Slavs made up the majority of Venetian-sold slaves, the word became synonymous with "indentured servant" in the western world. It has nothing to do with the vikings and their trade with the muslims, who didn't really distinguish between any fair-skinned slaves, referring to anyone from Francia to Rus' as "Saqaliba". The word Slav itself seems to be Slavic in origin and seems to mean "glory" among other things.
I wonder if "Saqaliba" implies some kind of connection between the Slavs and the Scythians, and for that matter maybe even the Saxons. Lots of dudes related to proto-Indo-Europeans started having words with "S" and "K" meaning bladed weapons in their names all at the same time and I have to wonder if.
Does the term "Salawiya" used by muslim travelers refer then to the Slavs, as opposed to the "Rus", who were most likely Scandinavians? I read a description of a raid on Constantinople, where the raiding was made of the Rus AND the Slavs as 2 distinct components. BTW, while "slava" does mean glory, "slovo" means "word", and in most Slavic languages the self-name for "Slav" is spelled with an -o-: e.g. Slovenia; Slovakia; "Sloveni" (serbian and croatian for "Slavs"), slowianie (Polish). slovjany (ukrainian). It makes more sense that the Slavs would describe themselves as "people of the word/speech", bc they spoke an "intelligible language", unlike the surrounding (Germanic or other), who spoke "unintelligible languages" and were called "Nemci" ("mute / dumb ones"). The stem "-slav-" is proper only to the Russian and the Bulgarian languages. The "glory" version, based PERHAPS on the Russian-Muscovian pronunciation, may be a later ideological rationalization - especially to push back against the Western/Latin equation between "Slav" (sclavus) and "Slave" (sclavus).
I will never understand why people are always surprised by the interactions between Turks, Slavs and Norse. They are literal neighbors living side by side since forever! Stop acting like Turks came from outer space all of a sudden.
It's because most people put an imaginary border between them. Turks are closer to Mongols, China, Ottomans, Abbasids, etc. than they are to Scandinavians, Balkaners, Eastern and Southern Europeans, all of this is just in most people's heads and not reality. People put this imaginary ocean between them. In reality all of these people mixed. Its poor schooling.
The Berindeis were semi-nomadic and have been documented as holding various military positions, such as that of "frontier guards" on the payroll of Rus' lords. The Berindeis are mentioned in the chronicles of the Kievan Rus' in the 11th and 12th centuries as "Chornye Klobuki" and, together with the Pechenegs and Uzs, became settled along the borders of the Russian steppes. Some rebel Berindei tribes took refuge in territories which are part of today’s Romania. Most of the Berindeis remained on the territories of the Kiev and Pereyaslavl principalities, where they functioned as cavalry troops in the region of the lower Dnieper river.
@@matheusdesouzasilva9320 Turks a wide spanning ethnolingustic group with many sub categories, the Turks that interacted with the Early Rus' were not the same group of Turks that invaded Anatolia.
Very interesting! Your videos are so well researched and the information is put together in a very understandable and easy to listen way, it's alway well worth the wait and a great joy to notice that new one has came up! Thank You!
If you're interested, keep on digging. In Estonia we've discovered several Viking sites and it's becoming ever more clear that we were also Vikings although it's not widely known. Maybe you've heard of the Varangian Guard, the Viking elite guard of the Byzantine emperors. The Middle Latin term for the Vikings was "varangus". We have places that go at least a thousand years back, named "Varangu". Coincidence? Not likely.
@@benwinter2420 It's "Vaara" in Finnish. I happen to speak Finnish. But yes, both Finns and Estonians are part of the Finno-ugric people. And we both did some "vikinging" back then.
Rus is also described as short term for "men that rows", used by the Finns to describe Sweden "Routsi", Sweden also stems for the word "Svear" which means returners. Roslagen (a place in Sweden) is therefore the probable place for were theses returners (Svear) came ashore.
@@bennyklabarpan7002 Any evidence? Or are you retelling fairy tales? Is it worth recalling that the chronicler directly separates the Rus from the Swedes, Goths, Norwegians and Angles (i.e., Danes)?
@@yourreflection2536 I don't think there exists any hard evidence, assuming you mean genetics, everything else would just be hearsay/history. The idea generally falls back on the idea that Rus & Varangians were nordic, which there are quite a lot of testaments for including runic inscriptions in Istanbul. Not sure what you mean by "Angles (i.e., Danes)" - the Danes were distinct from the Angles, more similar to Swedes when it came to culture.
I listened to lectures by a Russian historian who adheres to the Nordic version of the emergence of Rus'. To describe it briefly, it indicates that somewhere near Novgorod, there was a trading city where Slavs, Finns and Nords lived, they had no division into Slavs, etc., they lived together and the main way of earning money was trade. Mainly with the Persians and Greeks, since they had silver. They mainly sold furs and slaves, even some of their own. Naturally, they knew how to fight and could be mercenaries. So, the professor believes that the name Rus came from this particular piece of land. The surviving names of Finns and Swedes for rowers indirectly confirm this, as far as I understand. Sorry if my english is bad im Russian. He told many more interesting things, but I can't rewrite the whole lecture. For example about how the Slavs and Finns were similar in life and faith and that they could live with each other without fighting, so they mixed in the northern part of Russia and, according to DNA, this is still the case. That there was a ritual of twinning, where people drank from a horse-shaped vessel where they mixed blood with honey. Both the Slavs and Finns had the horse as a totem. I think the Nords also had such a ritual. This also easily explains why Rurik was summoned, although he is not *ours*. Because the people who lived there did not divide into Swedes and Slavs, Rurik was their own, familiar to them. And the tradition of conscription itself is purely Slavic. In short, this is its essence. In times of peace, the oldest and wisest became the leader. And in times of war, the warrior with the largest squad became the main one. More precisely, he was hired for a while, he was paid for it. But why should he give power back? Or maybe the war simply never ended. It is worth understanding that in the old days the Slavs, although they spoke the same language, lived first in families, then in tribes, then in principalities. and they did not have a single state and everyone could fight against each other.
This is nonsense. Slavic and Finns are absolutely different cultures. Nothing in common. Different religion, different way of life, different language. Slavs lived on very rich territories and had huge population. Land could feed them. Finns lived on poor lands in small groups and fiercely fight each other for resources. Cannibalism was common practice for those territories. Greek philosopher Herodotus called them cannibals. Slavic people called them lyudoghery - eaters of people. Even in All Russian Empire every 7 years was famine on territories of 'Majour Rossia'. Without Ukrainian food All Russian Empire couldn't exist. Thousand years territories of modern Ukraine were bread busket of Europe.
@@leotka finno-ugric population in finland 5,5mil. finno-ugric population of russia ~4mil. U just think that Finland is only one population of finno-ugric people. But all north of Russia have strong Finno-ugric DNA.
@@imperskiikulak446 Окраина у финов - райна, край, граница. В украинском языке ака руськом, нет такого слова. У нас окраина это Кресы или Кордон. Только московиты используют чужие языки, потому что своего нет. Финские и тюркские племена выучили старо-болгарский язык, но не до конца, потому что значение многих слов не поняли. Во всех славянских языках, например, урода значит красота, а у вас прямо противоположное, вместо око - глаз, и т.д.
@@leotka А у Поляков от куда взялось такое слово?Причем несущее такой же смысл.Вы там у себя на Оркаине совсем умом тронулись.Причем слово Кордон у нас в России тоже используется до сих пор,и это слово ни просто взято от куда то,а употреблялось к примеру моим дедом лет тридцать назад в деревне.
Actually it is very interesting topic. I studied the turkic runes a bit, espescially Orkhon-Yenisey script, and as far as I know, there is no actual connection between it and the germanic runes. There are actually more differences between them, then simularities. Their similar angular shape is simply explained by the fact that they were both carved in stone. And if we're talking about the word "ilmen", I know turkish language, but I have found only one questionable source in turkish language with your information. Other "ilmen" words that I found were of arabic origin and had completely different meaning. Anyway, none of the popular etymologies of the İlmen lake connects the origin of the word with the Turkic languages.
@@VladislavKobzarev Look at that coincidence, I know both Turkish and Arabic. Arabic is a language that absorbs the words of foreign languages. Just because this word is used in Arabic does not mean that it is Arabic. Also, there is no original Arabic vowel "i" What you wrote didn't make sense to me and I started researching. For example, the Uighurs living in Xinjiang, China, are of Turkish origin and use Arabic letters even today. The use of Arabic letters may also cause you to think it is Arabic. This is the case in Ottoman Turkish; Turkish words are actually written in Arabic. This may be why you think that what you find in the texts is Arabic. ایلمن is the Arabic writing form of this word. And it only appeared in an Ottoman source. (I couldn't read what it meant in the Ottoman source). The word (ﻋﻠﻤﺎً) is completely Arabic and means knowledge and science. The pronunciations seem to be the same, but they are not. The reason why it is read like this is Turkish sources. Turks can read and write the letter 'ع' like the letters "a,ı,i". For example, the name 'ali' is originally an Arabic word. It does not start with 'ا', which corresponds to the letter 'a'. As it seems, it starts with the letter 'ع' in Arabic, and in fact, even its pronunciations are completely different.
Im Swedish. We still have places here named after the Rus. Example Roslagen witch is a place here. It means The Rus law. So they are from here close to stockholm
In my years of part time study, I found a short account of how Vikings/Norse from Bornholm, Oland, Gotland and plus more from the Swedish coast and north German coast, gathered together to move into Slavic land to govern them. I have strong roots from Bornholm and Skane so the story seemed to made sense why I had have remnants of DNA in the Ukraine, especially Kiev and western Ukraine.
@@Manuka-px2peSome of the Rus returned to Sweden knows as Svear(returners) Svear founded Svealand and allied/conquered västra(west) & öster(east) -götaland. Hence the 3 crowns the hockeyteam and a castle wields. Sweden is in Swedish "Sverige" which is short for "Svea Rike" (=Kingdom of Svea)
@@alexzero3736depends on how you divide the word: Ro-slagen (slog sig till ro = settled to calmness) ro = row /stillness/peace/calm. Ros-lagen = Law of the rose.
I am glad to meet such a high-quality video on UA-cam. This is the best and most balanced essay about rus and ancient Russia. Our (Russian) historical scientists, I do not know for what reasons, very strongly and, in my opinion, with little justification, prove that the Russians are Normans. I will keep silent about Western researchers. They have not yet figured out how Austria differs from Australia, and the Czech Republic from Chechnya :). Today, genetics and paleogenetics provide a lot. A huge contribution to the substantiation of the polyethnicity of rus. I recommend paying attention to such a phenomenon as Cossacks. I think it's a very close analogy. From mistakes. Fix the krivichs ones. This is a Slavic tribe, although perhaps with a significant contribution from the Balts. The Finno-Ugric contribution according to craniology is likely in the Ilmen Slovenes. Like and subscribe.
@@robertohlen4980you didn't even try to explore the topic, yet you already made your conclusions based on your political bias. You should be ashamed if yourself.
Medieval East Europe is just fascinating from a culturological standpoint. Slavs, Balts, Norsemen, Turkic and Ugro-Finnic people living in an extremely dynamic continuum, forging a life for themselves in some of the most unhospitable landscapes in the world, receiving brave wanderers from Byzantium, Arabia, China... it's almost mythological, a real life Thule. It's a shame that it's often forgotten in mainstream amateur history, alongside other fascinating regions of the world. The West is, of course, historically fascinating in its own right, but exposure has robbed it of its mystique. Mystique is often the bane of good historiography, but it's also the spark of passion that leads many to research history, and East Europe has no shortage of it.
@@xnjbthqgpzn4oc.xnp1aojspwb53 The etymological investigations of O. N. Trubachev showed that the Old Russian form of the ulichi/uluchi naturally reflects the Turkic transmission of the Old Russian Uglich (Trubachev O. N., 1961, pp. 186, 187). Thus, the form of the Оуличи, known to the chronicle, is a modification received from the Turkic neighbors. But archaeology does not find original material traces of the presence the Ulich tribe.
In the books of L.N.Gumilyev, an expert on nomadic tribes, the author sternly distinguishes between khan and khagan, the first being the ruler by blood (just as Turkic Ashina family), the second, a ruler elected by his men (as in Kara Khitai khaganate). So, the first Rus´ khagans could also be elected.
No actually the term khagan are derivrd from Turkic meaning king ruler. Its disturbing to see norse germanic descent savages role playing as Turkic khagans.
7:29 have heard this name indicates they were river rowers, as in a norweigan seafarer enterprise that went continental. There are stories of this type
The word "rus", comes from Swedish "sur", which means "sour", but also "sad" and "cranky". That strongly indicates their addiction to sauerkraut and their personality traits. The direction of letters has changed because the Arabic script goes from right to left.
I'm wrong, I know I'm wrong but I've always liked the idea that Rus stemmed from 'Rutsje' - the modern word we use for 'slide' in Denmark and likely our Northern neighbours have a variation of it. 'De er Rutsjere' /'they're sliders'. Asked how they brought their ships between the rivers or over land passed the rapids (portage) to get to the Black Sea, the answer would be akin to 'vi rutsjer'. The 't' is silent. "Rus" could just have meant, from the Byzantine perspective, those who jumped between rivers from the North to get to the Black Sea trade. The remnants of the Western Empire couldn't make the journey North on those rivers but these crazy bastids were making the trip South and manhandling them back North. Gotta appreciate the whole 'I'm not even mad' approach they took to these hairy-arsed Northerners in Constantinople though (just to cover another variations..).
These were the Normans from Kiev who collected tribute from the Slavs, but at that time they had to pay tribute to their larger neighbors, the Khazars. That's why when these two visited the Frankish state, they said that their ruler was a kagan. Easy
Many historians call the Russian khaganate a "historiographical phantom". Neither Russians nor Bulgars or Alans have ever called themselves Kagans. Kagan (Khaan) is a Turkic-Mongolian word that appeared after the invasion of the Mongol Oghuzes in the Slavic lands. Russians called their rulers Tsar, Knyaz or Voivode. The Mongol Oghuzes had no analogues to these words, except for the word kagan, so the word kagan sometimes appears in the Golden Horde chronicles in relation to the rulers of Russians, Finno-Ugrians or Scandinavians. In general, in the early Byzantine annals, the Tauroscythians were often called Russes, even before the arrival of the Vikings in these territories.
You're wrong. That's exactly what they called it. At least twice, under Yaroslav the Wise. If one inscription calling him Kagan was scratched in the St. Sophia Cathedral in Kyiv, then another, the official speech of the Russian Metropolitan, seemed to call Vladimir himself that way.
@@nodruj8681 The Russian Kaganate is mentioned in the Bertine Chronicles in the mid-9th century. There, some Sveons pretended to be residents of this country and asked for passage. This is where the myth that Russians are Swedes actually originated. Nobody imagined that the Slavs would be able to defeat the Swedes. Although, apparently, this happened on Ladoga.
Finland has old names for countries carried over from middle ages like modern russia is called Venäjä Based on old slavic venedi tribes, germany is called saksa Based on saxons
@@h0mo3rectus69саксы это потомки саков, а саки сейчас сохранились как #саха . Так же у саха есть руны. Например руна #алгыс соответствующая скандинавской руне альгиз это обряд который совершается главным образом в день летнего солнцестояния и сама руна это человек который возносит молитву благодарности Аар Айыы Таҥара.
6:47 aRTHa артха The consonant cluster "RTH" is NOT a common consonant cluster in Slavic languages. It is more typical in languages like English (oRTHography, fuRTHer, NoRTHmen, woRTH).
Parthia From Latin Parthia, from Ancient Greek Παρθία (Parthía), from Old Persian 𐎱𐎼𐎰𐎺 (Parθava) (or another Old Iranian language). Dutch: Parthen Finnish: Parthia French: Parthie German: Parthien Icelandic: Parþía Scots: Parthie Urdu: parthiya
English language was hacked. Double speak with double meanings. Con-founding, con-fusing and con-troling the narrative. Be discerning and learn truths. 🪄
A few things I picked up on here perhaps will help Brilliant video by the way 'Thanks❤ You say Majus = Magi ' Myjars ( hunic = Hungarian 'Huns ) same place as Illurium = Illman 'a large set of Roman emporers came from there at the latter part of empire Russell perhaps from Runic = Runstones' Sweden 'origionaly from Alti mountains It would appear to me we are dealing with a mixture of the much earlier Ox culture between the Caspian sea and the Himalayas Kurgans ( round burial tombs ) Kagans Cimri = Simarians were connected to the Sythians There were Royal Sythians who ruled over but were separate from the normal Sythians '= Scotia = Ireland later Scotland Magi = Majesty I hope this helps
Rhus comes from the name of a tribe called Roxolani banished from Dacia,(from battle of 101-102 of Tapae-see Tropaeum Trajanii monument), who emigrated later through boat to Crimeea and rest of North East Europe! The word means Red One!( haired/beard)
11:16 "Krivics" (actually Krivichs or Kriviches) were not a Finnic tribe. They were east Slavic tribe of disputed origin which migrated from south-east direction. Their setlements stretched from south-west Belarus up to Ilmen lake in the lands inhabited by Finnic tribes.. The archaeological culture of Kriviches shows both Slavic and Baltic features which leads to speculations that they were Balts assimilated by newcomers of Slavic origin.
When the Norse figured out how to get to the Black Sea and then to Constantinople I'm sure they met traders from the Med Sea region. The Venetians would be a strong candidate for contact with Italian and Adriatic Sea sea traders.
Russians were Major Ross from 1721 till 1930th. Before 1721 they were Moscovits, before Moscovites they were called Ordyntsy (People of Hord). Even those days Udmurt people call them Djuch - people of Djuchi Ulus. And before Ordyntsy they were called as merya, ves, golyad, cheremis, etc. All those Finnish tribes, also part of them were Bulgars, Ugric, Tartars. So I have a question who from this tribes are your brothers, mate? Turks or Finns? As I know Serbs and Croats are Slavic nations. What connects Serbs and Russians is Old Bulgarian language. Language of Orthodox Christianity. Serbia was a part of Bulgarian Empire so old Bulgarian language is common for both Serbs and Russians. Modern Russian language on 55% common to Old Bulgarian. This is more then Modern Bulgarian. So we can say that Russian language this is dialect of Old Bulgarian language.
Thanks for the information, it's always good to have different opinions in the conversation. I will follow up on your comment with logical facts that are easily verifiable. The Slavic peoples are easily identified in the Serbian language - Russians (I have already explained RUS) and I will take as an example the Poles (a people who live in a field - from the word POLJE). Although the Hungarians and Bulgarians are basically Slavic peoples, they took on the identity of the Asian peoples who settled in those areas during the course of history. An excellent indicator is again the Serbian language because we use names for them that they brought with them from Asia, which means that they did not always live in the Balkans and Eastern Europe among us. Therefore, it will be more likely that today's Bulgarians use the Serbian/Slavic language because it is clear that Serbs do not use Asian (Old Bulgarian) languages. Today's DNA analyzes show well who is who in Europe. So Russians and Finns have nothing in common because Finns have haplogroups characteristic of Scandinavia and North Asia, while Russians have Eastern European and old Danubian-Balkan haplogroups.
@@AMEurope333 Hungarian and Bulgarian are Turks, but both came on territories populated by Slavic people. Difference is that Bulgars have been assimilated between various Slavic tribes, accepted their culture and language, but Hungarian assimilated Slavic and implemented on them their culture and language. In all countries around Ukraine there is Ukrainian population, but not in Hungary. In XIX century Hungarian government forced Ukrainians use Hungarian language, culture and religion. Now they are all Hungarians.
@@leotka Russians never called themlselves "Moscovits", it's an exonym. And no one ever called Russians "Ordyntsy", because that's what Russians called the Mongols, specifically the Golden Horde.
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It’s believed “Rurik” came from Roslagen but the sad part is, is we don’t actually know who rurik was, some think he’s Finnish, some think he’s a Wend, we sadly will never know.
@@TheSwedefromSvealandOfficial well never know, I do think he was a “Swedish Viking” but the reality is Vikings was a job Slavic peoples were too Vikings, for example wends, pomeranians, poles (too a small extent) and of course Russians, Belarusians and Ukrainians.
@@joepaddy7239 Yes that is true, but it would have been cool if the semi region of Roslagen had such interesting history, lile founding the worlds largest country Russia
The DNA analysis tells the best story. The Swedes and the Slavic population are distinguishable peoples. However, even though they would like to be Swedes, the Poles, Croatians and other groups of Slavic descent that accept and defend Catholic fate better than Vatican Pope himself, have the same DNA as the other Slavic peoples including most of the Russians. So...science is always the best tool for analysis and I strongly agree that everything else is based on hear/say narratives colored and shaped by wars, religion an suffering.
AUTHOR, are you aware that the word "urus" is still referred to Russian people. It just has a bad connotation. Howeverthe name Rus ppl of 9th century isnt related to urus
No he isn't, because this word is only used by Banderastani people only. The reason for it was an attempt at usurpation of the legacy of Kievan Rus by far-right Ukrainian nationalists. Their idea of history of KR differs from original one because they present KR as the state what began in Kiev while Novgorod or other terretories doesn't exist for them. Also they try to prove "non-existence" of Slavs in Novgorod by the fact what "the earliest Slavic writing is dated XI century". The fact what Slavs haven't a writing system before Christianity and what Christianity came to the KR in 988 AD doesn't bother them.
Scandinavians are definitely Turkic people. They are descendent of White Huns from Siberia. They are Odin's Turkish folk. Gray Wolf greetings from Khazakistan.
Сїи славныи ѿ славныихъ рожьсѧ благороденъ ѿ бл҃городныих каганъ нашь Влодимеръ и възрастъ и ѹкрѣпѣвъ ѿ дѣтескыи младости паче же възмѫжавъ крѣпостїю и силою съвершаꙗсѧ мѫжьствомъ же и съмыслом̑ прѣдъспѣа и единодержець бывъ земли своеи покоривъ подъ сѧ ѡкрѫгънѧа страны ѡвы миромъ а непокоривыа мечемь
A remarkable job in laying out the uncertainties and complexities of the matter. And very fun to watch. More questions than answers is always fun. I am sharing this with every Finn, Scandinavian, Turk and Ukrainian I know. (I don't don't talk to Russians until next order.) By the way, what you call "Byzantines" called themselves Romans, as I am sure you know.
Thank you for this fascinating video, looking at the history of Kyivan Rus from this eastern (rather than northern) angle was very insightful! I was very surprised when you used the word "khagan" for Rus' rulers - it turned out to be even more successful clickbait than "eastern vikings", haha :) And even more surprised after googling and checking that it did, indeed, replace the title of "knyaz" in this period, or at least in foreign affairs. The more you know.
I know where the word Kneaz comes from, but it is a long story. Everything is wrong in this video. I am flabbergasted by the insane take over of the Turks being everything East of Black Sea, by the Western scholars and historians. The word and title of Kagan, or the real words being Ka Khan are not Turkish. They are Romanian words. KA meant "head". KA KHAN meant "head of heads". In Romanian KA is KAP KA KHAN is KAPUL KAPILOR. The Mongols were not Turks. They were related to they Huns, and the Huns were Romanian ancestors. There still is the city of HUNEDOARA which means "city of Huns". It is insane how these scholars claim that there were Turks everywhere while there are Romanians all over those places now. Where did all the Romanians came from suddenly, and replaced the Turks???.......when did they do that??? Huns, Sarmati, Avars, Tatar Golden Horde, Goths, were all Romanian ancestors, and Mongols of Genghis Khan were close cousins. Procopius, Priscus and Ana Comnena reveal al these information. The Secret History of the Mongols does it as well. Am I the only one who studied all these books???
Great video! I was thinking of the comparison to America before you said it. It seems to me that every people is either the result of an offshoot from another group or from a joining together of different groups.
Kiev was much better location to control the rus khaganate than Aldeigjuborg or Holmgard. Kiev was by Dnepr but Holmgard and Aldeigjuborg were by Volkhov and ships had to be pulled on land twice to get to Dnepr and Black sea. However the great rapids south of Kiev were stopping all Byzantine ships from entering Kiev.
The author is right in one thing, Russia is a conglomeration of tribes from Slavic tribes, Finno-Ugric, which were later joined by Turkic peoples, Which is why Russia has existed for more than 1000 years.This is a union with equal rights, but of course with the dominance of the Orthodox faith after the baptism of Russia and up to the First World War, the Civil War and the seizure of power by communism. After the collapse of the Golden Horde, the Turkic nobility was added to the Slavic nobility, including from the descendants of Genghis Khan, who began to serve the Grand Duke of Moscow, then he became Сzar (Caesar).Under Peter the Great, the Ostsee German barons joined the Russian Aristocracy, and many migrant aristocrats from Europe from Ireland, Scotland, Norway, Denmark, and France. For example, the famous Russian poet Mikhail Lermontov was a descendant of a Scottish mercenary. George Lermont, who entered the Russian service at the beginning of the 17th century, was probably in turn a descendant of Thomas Lermont, a famous Scotsman of the 13th century. Later, under Catherine 2, many German nobility moved to Russia and became Russian nobility.
Even before Catherine came to power many germans already lived in Russia. The relationship between the Rus and their Germanic and other Indo European brothers are much deeper and older than with tatars. Turks and Mongols came as intruders much later.
The swedish rus copied Turkic rulership and titles, after the desteoyed the khazar khaganate. They even call modern day Mantı, as pelmeni, they aldo call bashlir horde, akhal tekee horses as russian horses. 😂 delusional migrants, need to get butt 🦵 out of euroasia.
There's no proof that this state has ever existed, to begin with, the Rurikids never made mention of it in any of the Rus-Roman treaties and the PC, and neither are there remains of it. Furthermore, "warlike aristocracy of violent, river-bound merchants"? The Rus/Rurikids were hereditary tribal nobility that subsided from taxation, governing, and warfare, not craftsmen plying trades, the traders and the swords-for-hire were the Varangians, not the Rus.
200 rus ships attacking on Constantinople sounds exaggerated. It also may have been some actual ships and many dugout canoes which could have passed the great chain protecting the golden horn. No ship with mast was able to cross the chain.
the "ships" were most likely small and light boats with detachable masts, the sort used in sweden and russia since before the viking age and after, some even slavic canoes as you mentioned(called monoxyla in a byzantine source), all of them designed to be easily portaged over land areas(answering your other statement about kiev as the capital). Kiev appears to have become the capital after the Rus and Byzantines signed a treaty in 911, making the southern trade route more important, whereas in the 9th century the trade route to the Caspian sea through the Khazars was the important one
Sweden had a great influence on Russia about 1000-1200 years ago. It was common that in the elite of Kyiv-Rus or Novgorod -Rus that they had one, two or more swedish ancestors/relatives. As late as 14th c icelandic scribes called Rus area for "The great/big Sweden". Common cultural features still exists. F.ex. in eastern Sweden when older people see a black cat they still spit three times over left shoulder to stop misfortunes to happen, exactly what they do in Russia...Other similarites is a sacrifice to Tomte/Nisse or farmspirit, in Russia it´s called Domevoi. Both people used to put steel in cradle or threshold to stop Trolls or Lezji(treepeople) to steal the children...
@@hakanliljeberg790 oh yes, but i wouldnt tie those customs to any particular people. i think that is something that is done across Europe and imho predates both Russians and Swedes. In some cultures such customs are kept more than in others.
My name is Hakan, Turkish name, meaning is king, ruler, emperor. Khagan, Hakan, Kaan, Kağan same. It is common name in Türkiye, Hakan is transformed of Khagan. I herd sweden name Hakon or Hakan. It is a king's name, I saw a movie about it and I met some swedish tourists, their names were Hakan. Hakan and Khagan used in all Turkish states even Ottoman Empire for example HÂKĀNÎ MEHMED BEY (1600 ???)
@Survival87 and you are nobody to talk about Turks at all , '' later ones were an divergent culture '' who are you to tell this ? a nobody - Hun Burials - early Seljuk Burials - Scythian Burials all proves that modern Turks were just like their ancestors , its your western thing to claim Turks to be looking asiatic to begin with , mind your own buisness about things you have no information about find another subject to write about , this subjects are strongly supported by an ideology that not even your entire nation can handle
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For making such kind of video you must read the ”Djagfar Tarihi” -the old Bulgarian chronicle, otherwise your suppositions about Kazar khaganate intermingling with old Russian mythologies. The old Russians was in alliance of steppe people, Scythians, Yam Naya culture and so on. The arab historical sources are to lates for describes the antique histories.
America is actually named after the Feathered Serpent god. "Amarucu" = Land of feathered serpents according to the Indians of central America I'd like to see a video on that one.
For Turks who are watching 21:17 Urmak (old turkic) = Vurmak Uruş = Vuruş (as in Virash that he mentions) Vuruş = hit/impact Vuruşmak = To hit each other/one another/to fight each other To be honest this Uruş theory doesn’t convince me. Turks are/were grammatically pretty accurate in naming places/people, and naming “people” as “Uruş” is grammatically incorrect. Uruşgan / Uruşkan / Uruşan / Uruşhan would all make sense and be correct. Which leads me to.. Uruşgan = UruşKan = Uruş Kaghan/Khan/Han/Kaan which makes total sense. “Uruşgan” would truly translate into “those hitting/fighting with each other”, often used to describe boys who end up in fights. The Kan in Uruşkan and Khan (=Khagan/Han/Kaan) are of course different. But over time this may have been misinterpreted and turned into such. Btw Vuruşkan is still used as a last name. Edit: sadly enough Vuruşkan today also has the meaning “those who f.ck each other”. To hit on..
both Kağan Kaghan and Hakan Hakon are turkish names given to their princes,chiefs and leader...so the early rus,as well as other kaghanates,or hakans,were turks...but even the names ala refer to ancient turkic cities,or a mixture of turks with slavs
Rus were never turks. Please don't spread missinformations. The originaly Rus society were a mix of germanic, slavic and fino ugrisch people and not tatars. Tatars and Mongols were our Nemesis. 😅
@@bertrecht913 u wont like it,but they mixed with turks😖 ... almost every rus has 2% turkic ancestry,just check out daniel tabins poster on xioung nu scythian sarmatian turkic ancestry
about spreading misinformation...i came to a conclusion because of certain titles and names,geography and titles tell a lot as well as archeology and dna
@@nukhetyavuz Russian DNA is mostly R1B or R1A and some have I1A like scandinavians. Turks and Rus have totally different origin and DNA. Of course over the time people mingled with each others but the culturaly and ethnic differences is too big as if you could way they are brothers or the Rus were turks. That is absolutely not true it's like to say the germans and turks were brother nations. Real brother nations are firstly the other slavic, especially the east slavic people like Ukrainian and Belarus and after that, the other european nations - not turks! ;)
Old Kazan is said to have been founded by the Volga Bulgars in 1000 AD, but was destroyed by the invasion of the Golden Horde in the 13th century and lost its independence. The new Kazan Khanate, according to official history, was said to have emerged in 1393 and existed as a political entity from Moscow or another russian state, even until the mid-16th century then it was conquered by the half tatar Ivan the terrible... yes some rus, even some nobles mingled with tatars but that doesn't mean that the rus were a turkic people and ethnic origin is never insignificant for understanding its true origin and meaning. Some information is distorted here and safe and trustworthy sources are not mentioned. I think that some of these Arabic scholars equated tatars with russians and that much of the history of the pre christianization of the europeans was destroyed or manipulated by the churches, yet Slavs, Germanic peoples and other Indo-European peoples are not Turks or Mongols and never became the domains of the christian orthodox Rus referred as Khaganates. For the very nearby Turkic people of the Kipchaks, for example, things looking completely different.
Absolutely incredible slapdown of VP’s history without ever once mentioning his name, just days after the infamous interview which will likely be forgotten long after the ideas summarized by this video become part of the shared subconscious.
So if Khagan is a bit like Emperor and Rus or Turk something like Roman. Could it be that other kings and nations tried to claim legitimacy by using title Khagan and nation like Rus or Turk, even though they might be a conqueror. We see it with the Roman Empire being claimed by Russian Zar and German King and even Ottoman Empire. Just thinking that we might have lost the old identity of some eastern tribes or nations in this way.
These guys come from China . R1a heplogroup aka sloves built the China wall to keep the hohn Chinese from migrating north after the cultivation of rice . After the cultivation of rice there was a population explosion by heplogroup O by what is now hong Kong . These guys got overwhelmed and migrated west through the Eurasian steppe .
Stop writing nonsense, haplogroup R1a, originally from the Hindustan peninsula, like all Indo-European peoples, There is still a large group with this haplogroup of blood in India and it is mainly the Brahmin caste.then a lot of people migrated from Hindustan to Iran (Persia), where this haplogroup is also present in large numbers, and Iran is the Arias
@@wahcks1142 That's how it's taught. The teaching says: The Vandals moved to Africa and the Wends came. Now the Old Saxon “wendlas” refers to the Vandals. There was also correspondence between those who remained at home and the Vandals in Carthage regarding the farms of those who had left. As with the Goths, some moved to the Roman Empire and some came under Hun rule.
"treacherous" That part does not make sense. A culture that unreliable simply cannot generate such a trade network as DID happen. Not to mention, it could barely function at all. And the "viking" culture most certainly DID function. Arguably quite well even. And we know from the old laws of Scandinavia that theft or criminality overall was dealt with severely. But we also have decently strong indications that there was not actually much need for the rulings of law(or at least, not much compared to what you would expect from the populations involved). The "ting" meetings, which were yearly at most, appears to have rarely taken up more than a few days to resolve a whole year worth of legal/criminal issues that needed official treatment. And this is completely contradictory to the idea of the viking culture being that totally internally unreliable. I think it is much more likely that those kinds of precautions were taken because they were in foreign lands, not against themselves. While i DO think there was "infighting" to some degree, i think it is more likely to have been something closer to that of the N.American indians semi-ritualised raiding and combat. More showing off than "i want to steal and murder everything and everyone in my sight".
Like to hear more about the jews interactions back then - tired of ppl trying to stop anyone from talking about religion, ethnicity history etc the influence of Persian Jews on Khazaria and the west spread of jewish traders
Post-script comments:
- Some people in the comments pointed out that I mistakingly referred to the tribe of Krivics as Finnic whilst they were Slavic. Please note that I am unable to edit these videos after they've been uploaded, the best thing I can do is make these post-script comments.
- I get a few comments on this video and others pushing a narrative that because the modern word "Slave" stems from "Slav", this means that Eastern Europeans were enslaved by vikings. It is true that eastern europeans were taken as thralls to Scandinavia(along with Celts, Southern Europeans), and sold as slaves to the Caliphate. This is not where the modern word "Slave" comes from. It comes from Venetians buying Slavic prisoners from the Balkans and Bohemia and selling them as slaves to the Muslims. In this period and even later, it was common to refer to slaves by their ethnic identity. "I bought a group of Slavs", "I bought a group of negroes", etc. Because Slavs made up the majority of Venetian-sold slaves, the word became synonymous with "indentured servant" in the western world. It has nothing to do with the vikings and their trade with the muslims, who didn't really distinguish between any fair-skinned slaves, referring to anyone from Francia to Rus' as "Saqaliba". The word Slav itself seems to be Slavic in origin and seems to mean "glory" among other things.
Slava means Glory. Not a Slave. This is a reason for greeting Slava to Ukraine and answer Slava to the Heroes.
Saqaliba is derived from Slav though...
I wonder if "Saqaliba" implies some kind of connection between the Slavs and the Scythians, and for that matter maybe even the Saxons. Lots of dudes related to proto-Indo-Europeans started having words with "S" and "K" meaning bladed weapons in their names all at the same time and I have to wonder if.
@1 Saqaliba sounds like derived from the Latin "Sclavus". This is where the -q- sound comes from.
Does the term "Salawiya" used by muslim travelers refer then to the Slavs, as opposed to the "Rus", who were most likely Scandinavians? I read a description of a raid on Constantinople, where the raiding was made of the Rus AND the Slavs as 2 distinct components.
BTW, while "slava" does mean glory, "slovo" means "word", and in most Slavic languages the self-name for "Slav" is spelled with an -o-: e.g. Slovenia; Slovakia; "Sloveni" (serbian and croatian for "Slavs"), slowianie (Polish). slovjany (ukrainian). It makes more sense that the Slavs would describe themselves as "people of the word/speech", bc they spoke an "intelligible language", unlike the surrounding (Germanic or other), who spoke "unintelligible languages" and were called "Nemci" ("mute / dumb ones"). The stem "-slav-" is proper only to the Russian and the Bulgarian languages. The "glory" version, based PERHAPS on the Russian-Muscovian pronunciation, may be a later ideological rationalization - especially to push back against the Western/Latin equation between "Slav" (sclavus) and "Slave" (sclavus).
I will never understand why people are always surprised by the interactions between Turks, Slavs and Norse. They are literal neighbors living side by side since forever! Stop acting like Turks came from outer space all of a sudden.
It's because most people put an imaginary border between them. Turks are closer to Mongols, China, Ottomans, Abbasids, etc. than they are to Scandinavians, Balkaners, Eastern and Southern Europeans, all of this is just in most people's heads and not reality. People put this imaginary ocean between them. In reality all of these people mixed. Its poor schooling.
they invaded anatolia coming from central asia
The Berindeis were semi-nomadic and have been documented as holding various military positions, such as that of "frontier guards" on the payroll of Rus' lords. The Berindeis are mentioned in the chronicles of the Kievan Rus' in the 11th and 12th centuries as "Chornye Klobuki" and, together with the Pechenegs and Uzs, became settled along the borders of the Russian steppes. Some rebel Berindei tribes took refuge in territories which are part of today’s Romania. Most of the Berindeis remained on the territories of the Kiev and Pereyaslavl principalities, where they functioned as cavalry troops in the region of the lower Dnieper river.
@@matheusdesouzasilva9320 Anatolia is not where they interact with Norse and Slavs.
@@matheusdesouzasilva9320 Turks a wide spanning ethnolingustic group with many sub categories, the Turks that interacted with the Early Rus' were not the same group of Turks that invaded Anatolia.
Very interesting! Your videos are so well researched and the information is put together in a very understandable and easy to listen way, it's alway well worth the wait and a great joy to notice that new one has came up! Thank You!
Thanks for the video, keep making content
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Very interesting video! This(Rus origins)has been my new favorite ancient history topic of the moment, so i really enjoyed watching
If you're interested, keep on digging. In Estonia we've discovered several Viking sites and it's becoming ever more clear that we were also Vikings although it's not widely known. Maybe you've heard of the Varangian Guard, the Viking elite guard of the Byzantine emperors. The Middle Latin term for the Vikings was "varangus". We have places that go at least a thousand years back, named "Varangu". Coincidence? Not likely.
@@TTFerdinand Vara is Finnish word for danger/peril . . Varangians etc Constantinople , Estonians are a Finnic tribe
@@benwinter2420 It's "Vaara" in Finnish. I happen to speak Finnish. But yes, both Finns and Estonians are part of the Finno-ugric people. And we both did some "vikinging" back then.
Rus is also described as short term for "men that rows", used by the Finns to describe Sweden "Routsi", Sweden also stems for the word "Svear" which means returners.
Roslagen (a place in Sweden) is therefore the probable place for were theses returners (Svear) came ashore.
Still, it's very strange, let's call ourselves rowers, or even more so the Finns call us rowers, let's redo this word into Rus
but unfortunately, this is an invention of historians. There is no historical evidence that this was so.
The name for Swedes predates the Rus expansion eastwards by at least a thousand years. The rus were just a subset of swedes
@@bennyklabarpan7002 Any evidence? Or are you retelling fairy tales? Is it worth recalling that the chronicler directly separates the Rus from the Swedes, Goths, Norwegians and Angles (i.e., Danes)?
@@yourreflection2536 I don't think there exists any hard evidence, assuming you mean genetics, everything else would just be hearsay/history. The idea generally falls back on the idea that Rus & Varangians were nordic, which there are quite a lot of testaments for including runic inscriptions in Istanbul.
Not sure what you mean by "Angles (i.e., Danes)" - the Danes were distinct from the Angles, more similar to Swedes when it came to culture.
I listened to lectures by a Russian historian who adheres to the Nordic version of the emergence of Rus'. To describe it briefly, it indicates that somewhere near Novgorod, there was a trading city where Slavs, Finns and Nords lived, they had no division into Slavs, etc., they lived together and the main way of earning money was trade. Mainly with the Persians and Greeks, since they had silver. They mainly sold furs and slaves, even some of their own. Naturally, they knew how to fight and could be mercenaries. So, the professor believes that the name Rus came from this particular piece of land. The surviving names of Finns and Swedes for rowers indirectly confirm this, as far as I understand. Sorry if my english is bad im Russian.
He told many more interesting things, but I can't rewrite the whole lecture.
For example about how the Slavs and Finns were similar in life and faith and that they could live with each other without fighting, so they mixed in the northern part of Russia and, according to DNA, this is still the case. That there was a ritual of twinning, where people drank from a horse-shaped vessel where they mixed blood with honey.
Both the Slavs and Finns had the horse as a totem.
I think the Nords also had such a ritual.
This also easily explains why Rurik was summoned, although he is not *ours*. Because the people who lived there did not divide into Swedes and Slavs, Rurik was their own, familiar to them. And the tradition of conscription itself is purely Slavic. In short, this is its essence.
In times of peace, the oldest and wisest became the leader. And in times of war, the warrior with the largest squad became the main one. More precisely, he was hired for a while, he was paid for it. But why should he give power back? Or maybe the war simply never ended. It is worth understanding that in the old days the Slavs, although they spoke the same language, lived first in families, then in tribes, then in principalities. and they did not have a single state and everyone could fight against each other.
Thanks i always enjoy learning from people that have not been forcefed the western indoctranation of history
The Scandinavians flooded the entire Gnezdovo. 17.5 hectares.
This is nonsense. Slavic and Finns are absolutely different cultures. Nothing in common. Different religion, different way of life, different language. Slavs lived on very rich territories and had huge population. Land could feed them. Finns lived on poor lands in small groups and fiercely fight each other for resources. Cannibalism was common practice for those territories. Greek philosopher Herodotus called them cannibals. Slavic people called them lyudoghery - eaters of people. Even in All Russian Empire every 7 years was famine on territories of 'Majour Rossia'. Without Ukrainian food All Russian Empire couldn't exist. Thousand years territories of modern Ukraine were bread busket of Europe.
@@leotka finno-ugric population in finland 5,5mil. finno-ugric population of russia ~4mil. U just think that Finland is only one population of finno-ugric people. But all north of Russia have strong Finno-ugric DNA.
@@leotka Черные клобуки снова лезут в славяне. Мест мало, и клобуки ищут, кого бы выписать из. Ведь дали им земли по Ръси, но им до сих пор мало.
When did the Krivichi become a Finnish tribe?The Krivichi have always been a Slavic tribe.
Oh yeah? Were you there?
Russian anthropologists recognized Krivich people as slavinised Finns. There was enough info on Internet about this, same as Vyatich tribe.
@@leotka Ну тебе то с Окраины это лучше знать.
@@imperskiikulak446 Окраина у финов - райна, край, граница. В украинском языке ака руськом, нет такого слова. У нас окраина это Кресы или Кордон. Только московиты используют чужие языки, потому что своего нет. Финские и тюркские племена выучили старо-болгарский язык, но не до конца, потому что значение многих слов не поняли. Во всех славянских языках, например, урода значит красота, а у вас прямо противоположное, вместо око - глаз, и т.д.
@@leotka А у Поляков от куда взялось такое слово?Причем несущее такой же смысл.Вы там у себя на Оркаине совсем умом тронулись.Причем слово Кордон у нас в России тоже используется до сих пор,и это слово ни просто взято от куда то,а употреблялось к примеру моим дедом лет тридцать назад в деревне.
Turkic and Nordic runes are also similar. Also İlmen (the lake) is a Turkish word. İlmen literally means shiny (and flat like a glass).
Actually it is very interesting topic. I studied the turkic runes a bit, espescially Orkhon-Yenisey script, and as far as I know, there is no actual connection between it and the germanic runes. There are actually more differences between them, then simularities. Their similar angular shape is simply explained by the fact that they were both carved in stone.
And if we're talking about the word "ilmen", I know turkish language, but I have found only one questionable source in turkish language with your information. Other "ilmen" words that I found were of arabic origin and had completely different meaning. Anyway, none of the popular etymologies of the İlmen lake connects the origin of the word with the Turkic languages.
@@VladislavKobzarev Look at that coincidence, I know both Turkish and Arabic. Arabic is a language that absorbs the words of foreign languages. Just because this word is used in Arabic does not mean that it is Arabic. Also, there is no original Arabic vowel "i" What you wrote didn't make sense to me and I started researching. For example, the Uighurs living in Xinjiang, China, are of Turkish origin and use Arabic letters even today. The use of Arabic letters may also cause you to think it is Arabic. This is the case in Ottoman Turkish; Turkish words are actually written in Arabic. This may be why you think that what you find in the texts is Arabic. ایلمن is the Arabic writing form of this word. And it only appeared in an Ottoman source. (I couldn't read what it meant in the Ottoman source). The word (ﻋﻠﻤﺎً) is completely Arabic and means knowledge and science. The pronunciations seem to be the same, but they are not. The reason why it is read like this is Turkish sources. Turks can read and write the letter 'ع' like the letters "a,ı,i". For example, the name 'ali' is originally an Arabic word. It does not start with 'ا', which corresponds to the letter 'a'. As it seems, it starts with the letter 'ع' in Arabic, and in fact, even its pronunciations are completely different.
Runes are greek
@@veronicalogotheti1162 many nations used runes, mongols/turks, germanics, latins but yes greeks have the oldest runes.
@@bestestindaworld No, the greeks got their letters from the phonecians
Great video, thank you for sharing.
Im Swedish. We still have places here named after the Rus. Example Roslagen witch is a place here. It means The Rus law. So they are from here close to stockholm
In my years of part time study, I found a short account of how Vikings/Norse from Bornholm, Oland, Gotland and plus more from the Swedish coast and north German coast, gathered together to move into Slavic land to govern them. I have strong roots from Bornholm and Skane so the story seemed to made sense why I had have remnants of DNA in the Ukraine, especially Kiev and western Ukraine.
İf the ancient Rus were swedish tribes, which tribe are the current swedes from, which germanic tribes?
@@Manuka-px2peSome of the Rus returned to Sweden knows as Svear(returners) Svear founded Svealand and allied/conquered västra(west) & öster(east) -götaland. Hence the 3 crowns the hockeyteam and a castle wields.
Sweden is in Swedish "Sverige" which is short for "Svea Rike" (=Kingdom of Svea)
The word Ros just means Red, not Rus. In opposite the word Rus derived from Ros. Rusy/Russkiy are basically Red people. ( color of skin).
@@alexzero3736depends on how you divide the word: Ro-slagen
(slog sig till ro = settled to calmness)
ro = row /stillness/peace/calm.
Ros-lagen = Law of the rose.
Great timing, I just checked if you'd uploaded anything👍
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My new favorite history youtuber.
Great video. My grandfather on my mother's side was Haitian -Creole, never knew exactly what the term entails but now I do.
"With a sprinkle of bullcrap," how scholarly...
excellent content
It’s curious to me that I don’t know about the eastern Vikings until a couple years ago.
yes very underrated his
Movie The Northman kind of describes the connection between Rus' and Vikings. Also great movie (IMHO)
Nothing in school?
@@uranusismightybig5111 everything you her lately are inventions. They really do not have any documentation on all they talk about.
In the 1970s, New Zealand state schools NEVER taught History. Back then, I could only learn via public libraries (since 1974, aged of 10).
Wow great video, had no idea about this
Tack!
Tack Arne!
I am glad to meet such a high-quality video on UA-cam. This is the best and most balanced essay about rus and ancient Russia.
Our (Russian) historical scientists, I do not know for what reasons, very strongly and, in my opinion, with little justification, prove that the Russians are Normans. I will keep silent about Western researchers. They have not yet figured out how Austria differs from Australia, and the Czech Republic from Chechnya :).
Today, genetics and paleogenetics provide a lot. A huge contribution to the substantiation of the polyethnicity of rus.
I recommend paying attention to such a phenomenon as Cossacks. I think it's a very close analogy.
From mistakes. Fix the krivichs ones. This is a Slavic tribe, although perhaps with a significant contribution from the Balts. The Finno-Ugric contribution according to craniology is likely in the Ilmen Slovenes.
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Excellent point about Cossacks- it’s an adopted cultural identity where ethnicity is not a particularly important qualification
You are moscovite. Accept it
Russian historians really say they where Normans? From Normandy? Did they employ time travel? Makes Putin sound like a genius historian.
@@robertohlen4980 Normans is meant has Scandinavians in Russia not exclusively french Normans
@@robertohlen4980you didn't even try to explore the topic, yet you already made your conclusions based on your political bias. You should be ashamed if yourself.
Medieval East Europe is just fascinating from a culturological standpoint. Slavs, Balts, Norsemen, Turkic and Ugro-Finnic people living in an extremely dynamic continuum, forging a life for themselves in some of the most unhospitable landscapes in the world, receiving brave wanderers from Byzantium, Arabia, China... it's almost mythological, a real life Thule. It's a shame that it's often forgotten in mainstream amateur history, alongside other fascinating regions of the world. The West is, of course, historically fascinating in its own right, but exposure has robbed it of its mystique. Mystique is often the bane of good historiography, but it's also the spark of passion that leads many to research history, and East Europe has no shortage of it.
Great idea to make another dedicated video
The Krivichi tribe was not Finnic, but Slavic. To this day the Russians are called Krievs in Latvian language.
i still think they're all the same from iberia to the black sea : P
Krivichi most likely were baltic tribe in the early medieval but later became balto-slavic mix
The ethnonyms of the Slavs have a formant -ane.
The ethnonyms of the same Slavs have a formant -ichi in the area of Baltic hydronymics.
@@yozhleszyulichi are not from Baltic hydronymics area
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The etymological investigations of O. N. Trubachev showed that the Old Russian form of the ulichi/uluchi naturally reflects the Turkic transmission of the Old Russian Uglich (Trubachev O. N., 1961, pp. 186, 187). Thus, the form of the Оуличи, known to the chronicle, is a modification received from the Turkic neighbors. But archaeology does not find original material traces of the presence the Ulich tribe.
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Sources with questions. Add some Morrowind OST and we got a great vid
thank you very much
In the books of L.N.Gumilyev, an expert on nomadic tribes, the author sternly distinguishes between khan and khagan, the first being the ruler by blood (just as Turkic Ashina family), the second, a ruler elected by his men (as in Kara Khitai khaganate). So, the first Rus´ khagans could also be elected.
No actually the term khagan are derivrd from Turkic meaning king ruler. Its disturbing to see norse germanic descent savages role playing as Turkic khagans.
Love the incorporation of TES soundtrack!
Very based ❤😊 love the research and analysis!
7:29 have heard this name indicates they were river rowers, as in a norweigan seafarer enterprise that went continental.
There are stories of this type
Amazing and informative video.
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There was a route from Dnipro to Azov via tributaries
There are pretty tough white waters on the lower Dnipro
You are wrong! Kagan means Kaan which is 5th Gen Turkish Fighter Jet!
The word "rus", comes from Swedish "sur", which means "sour", but also "sad" and "cranky". That strongly indicates their addiction to sauerkraut and their personality traits. The direction of letters has changed because the Arabic script goes from right to left.
No it comes from the Finnish word for 'men who row' - Routsi. Swedish wasn't a language back then and the Rus spoke proto-norse.
@@hugh4035 No way! Wow 🤭
I'm wrong, I know I'm wrong but I've always liked the idea that Rus stemmed from 'Rutsje' - the modern word we use for 'slide' in Denmark and likely our Northern neighbours have a variation of it. 'De er Rutsjere' /'they're sliders'. Asked how they brought their ships between the rivers or over land passed the rapids (portage) to get to the Black Sea, the answer would be akin to 'vi rutsjer'. The 't' is silent. "Rus" could just have meant, from the Byzantine perspective, those who jumped between rivers from the North to get to the Black Sea trade. The remnants of the Western Empire couldn't make the journey North on those rivers but these crazy bastids were making the trip South and manhandling them back North. Gotta appreciate the whole 'I'm not even mad' approach they took to these hairy-arsed Northerners in Constantinople though (just to cover another variations..).
you never know
@@balticempire7244 rutschkana?
The big debate is if The original Central Asians Turks included I guess were either White, Olive Mediterannean, Or Eastern Asiatic yeah.
They were mixed. Also some very white and some more asiatic. Though the orignals more were White or white adjacent in the past.
Brilliant!!!
Very good. Thank you .
These were the Normans from Kiev who collected tribute from the Slavs, but at that time they had to pay tribute to their larger neighbors, the Khazars. That's why when these two visited the Frankish state, they said that their ruler was a kagan. Easy
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Many historians call the Russian khaganate a "historiographical phantom". Neither Russians nor Bulgars or Alans have ever called themselves Kagans. Kagan (Khaan) is a Turkic-Mongolian word that appeared after the invasion of the Mongol Oghuzes in the Slavic lands. Russians called their rulers Tsar, Knyaz or Voivode. The Mongol Oghuzes had no analogues to these words, except for the word kagan, so the word kagan sometimes appears in the Golden Horde chronicles in relation to the rulers of Russians, Finno-Ugrians or Scandinavians.
In general, in the early Byzantine annals, the Tauroscythians were often called Russes, even before the arrival of the Vikings in these territories.
Yes, also "vladyka" or ruler
Oghuzes are Turkic, not Mongolian, though
You're wrong. That's exactly what they called it. At least twice, under Yaroslav the Wise.
If one inscription calling him Kagan was scratched in the St. Sophia Cathedral in Kyiv, then another, the official speech of the Russian Metropolitan, seemed to call Vladimir himself that way.
@@yourreflection2536 This was most likely a war honorific after crushing the Khazars and most likely was not a term before this.
@@nodruj8681 The Russian Kaganate is mentioned in the Bertine Chronicles in the mid-9th century. There, some Sveons pretended to be residents of this country and asked for passage. This is where the myth that Russians are Swedes actually originated.
Nobody imagined that the Slavs would be able to defeat the Swedes. Although, apparently, this happened on Ladoga.
"Suioni" in Gens Suioni sounds eerily similar to how Finland is pronounced in Finnish, "Suomi"
Coincidence!? Probably
no coincidence. Rurik dynasty carried a Fino-Ugric male haplotype Y DNA.
We was kings...
Another interesting theory I’ve read is that the origin of the word Rus could be related to the Finnish word for Sweden; Ruotsi.
Finland has old names for countries carried over from middle ages like modern russia is called Venäjä Based on old slavic venedi tribes, germany is called saksa Based on saxons
@@h0mo3rectus69саксы это потомки саков, а саки сейчас сохранились как #саха . Так же у саха есть руны. Например руна #алгыс соответствующая скандинавской руне альгиз это обряд который совершается главным образом в день летнего солнцестояния и сама руна это человек который возносит молитву благодарности Аар Айыы Таҥара.
6:53 I would imagine that the "Kuyabah" are the Kievans, "Salawiyah" means "Slav," and "Arthaniya" means "Ruthenian."
Salawiyah - Novgorod
Arthaniya - Rostov
6:47 aRTHa артха
The consonant cluster "RTH" is NOT a common consonant cluster in Slavic languages. It is more typical in languages like English (oRTHography, fuRTHer, NoRTHmen, woRTH).
Parthia From Latin Parthia, from Ancient Greek Παρθία (Parthía), from Old Persian 𐎱𐎼𐎰𐎺 (Parθava) (or another Old Iranian language).
Dutch: Parthen Finnish: Parthia French: Parthie German: Parthien Icelandic: Parþía Scots: Parthie
Urdu: parthiya
English language was hacked. Double speak with double meanings. Con-founding, con-fusing and con-troling the narrative.
Be discerning and learn truths.
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English language was hacked by double speak with double meanings to con-trol,con- found and khan-cocked.
Your point is?
A few things I picked up on here perhaps will help
Brilliant video by the way 'Thanks❤
You say Majus = Magi ' Myjars ( hunic = Hungarian 'Huns ) same place as Illurium = Illman 'a large set of Roman emporers came from there at the latter part of empire
Russell perhaps from Runic = Runstones' Sweden 'origionaly from Alti mountains
It would appear to me we are dealing with a mixture of the much earlier Ox culture between the Caspian sea and the Himalayas
Kurgans ( round burial tombs ) Kagans
Cimri = Simarians were connected to the Sythians
There were Royal Sythians who ruled over but were separate from the normal Sythians '= Scotia = Ireland later Scotland
Magi = Majesty
I hope this helps
sources say that the Russian Kaganate is the predecessor of the Avar Kaganate, and besides, Avar genes were found among the Rurikovichs
Rhus comes from the name of a tribe called Roxolani banished from Dacia,(from battle of 101-102 of Tapae-see Tropaeum Trajanii monument), who emigrated later through boat to Crimeea and rest of North East Europe! The word means Red One!( haired/beard)
As I understand it Roxolani meant illuminous ones, or shining alans because of their shiny armor they work.
11:16 "Krivics" (actually Krivichs or Kriviches) were not a Finnic tribe. They were east Slavic tribe of disputed origin which migrated from south-east direction. Their setlements stretched from south-west Belarus up to Ilmen lake in the lands inhabited by Finnic tribes.. The archaeological culture of Kriviches shows both Slavic and Baltic features which leads to speculations that they were Balts assimilated by newcomers of Slavic origin.
I think Lithuanians or Latvians call Russia - Krievija
can you do an episode of their relations with italian merchant republics?
When the Norse figured out how to get to the Black Sea and then to Constantinople I'm sure they met traders from the Med Sea region. The Venetians would be a strong candidate for contact with Italian and Adriatic Sea sea traders.
you make gold and gunpowder too, right?
In the Serbian language, RUS means - those who have blond/red hair. Greetings to our Russian brothers and sisters.
Russians were Major Ross from 1721 till 1930th. Before 1721 they were Moscovits, before Moscovites they were called Ordyntsy (People of Hord). Even those days Udmurt people call them Djuch - people of Djuchi Ulus. And before Ordyntsy they were called as merya, ves, golyad, cheremis, etc. All those Finnish tribes, also part of them were Bulgars, Ugric, Tartars. So I have a question who from this tribes are your brothers, mate? Turks or Finns? As I know Serbs and Croats are Slavic nations. What connects Serbs and Russians is Old Bulgarian language. Language of Orthodox Christianity. Serbia was a part of Bulgarian Empire so old Bulgarian language is common for both Serbs and Russians. Modern Russian language on 55% common to Old Bulgarian. This is more then Modern Bulgarian. So we can say that Russian language this is dialect of Old Bulgarian language.
Thanks for the information, it's always good to have different opinions in the conversation. I will follow up on your comment with logical facts that are easily verifiable. The Slavic peoples are easily identified in the Serbian language - Russians (I have already explained RUS) and I will take as an example the Poles (a people who live in a field - from the word POLJE). Although the Hungarians and Bulgarians are basically Slavic peoples, they took on the identity of the Asian peoples who settled in those areas during the course of history. An excellent indicator is again the Serbian language because we use names for them that they brought with them from Asia, which means that they did not always live in the Balkans and Eastern Europe among us. Therefore, it will be more likely that today's Bulgarians use the Serbian/Slavic language because it is clear that Serbs do not use Asian (Old Bulgarian) languages. Today's DNA analyzes show well who is who in Europe. So Russians and Finns have nothing in common because Finns have haplogroups characteristic of Scandinavia and North Asia, while Russians have Eastern European and old Danubian-Balkan haplogroups.
@@AMEurope333 Hungarian and Bulgarian are Turks, but both came on territories populated by Slavic people. Difference is that Bulgars have been assimilated between various Slavic tribes, accepted their culture and language, but Hungarian assimilated Slavic and implemented on them their culture and language. In all countries around Ukraine there is Ukrainian population, but not in Hungary. In XIX century Hungarian government forced Ukrainians use Hungarian language, culture and religion. Now they are all Hungarians.
@@leotka Russians never called themlselves "Moscovits", it's an exonym. And no one ever called Russians "Ordyntsy", because that's what Russians called the Mongols, specifically the Golden Horde.
@@wetrix2119 Есть документы, где вы сами себя зовете Московским государством и москалями. Побегать по интернету и найдёте. Залесская орда тоже пробегало. Читайте больше, просвящайтесь.
I didnt understand if Roslagen had something to do with anything, did Roslagen have to do with anything?
It’s believed “Rurik” came from Roslagen but the sad part is, is we don’t actually know who rurik was, some think he’s Finnish, some think he’s a Wend, we sadly will never know.
@@joepaddy7239 Lets hope he whas from Roslagen
@@TheSwedefromSvealandOfficial well never know, I do think he was a “Swedish Viking” but the reality is Vikings was a job Slavic peoples were too Vikings, for example wends, pomeranians, poles (too a small extent) and of course Russians, Belarusians and Ukrainians.
@@joepaddy7239 Yes that is true, but it would have been cool if the semi region of Roslagen had such interesting history, lile founding the worlds largest country Russia
@@TheSwedefromSvealandOfficial It most certainly still can hold the title as being the ancestral name of the Russian state.
10:20 Novgorod... "Nygård"? 🤔
In the sagas they write about attila
Is just they went there before
You can see the chinese in scandinavia
The DNA analysis tells the best story. The Swedes and the Slavic population are distinguishable peoples. However, even though they would like to be Swedes, the Poles, Croatians and other groups of Slavic descent that accept and defend Catholic fate better than Vatican Pope himself, have the same DNA as the other Slavic peoples including most of the Russians.
So...science is always the best tool for analysis and I strongly agree that everything else is based on hear/say narratives colored and shaped by wars, religion an suffering.
Rus means - Red/blond. In latvian we have word - rūsa which means- rust in english.
AUTHOR, are you aware that the word "urus" is still referred to Russian people. It just has a bad connotation. Howeverthe name Rus ppl of 9th century isnt related to urus
No he isn't, because this word is only used by Banderastani people only. The reason for it was an attempt at usurpation of the legacy of Kievan Rus by far-right Ukrainian nationalists.
Their idea of history of KR differs from original one because they present KR as the state what began in Kiev while Novgorod or other terretories doesn't exist for them.
Also they try to prove "non-existence" of Slavs in Novgorod by the fact what "the earliest Slavic writing is dated XI century". The fact what Slavs haven't a writing system before Christianity and what Christianity came to the KR in 988 AD doesn't bother them.
Also, you are obviously Russophonic but you are trying to hide this fact. I guess you are either banderostani, zmagar or bsb person.
The Origins of the Rus is not uncertain.
The homeland of the Rus is the modern Karelian Isthmus. In Arab sources(Ahmad ibn Rustah) it was called the island of the Rus.
emperor taizong was also khagan during the tang dynasty.
Scandinavians are definitely Turkic people. They are descendent of White Huns from Siberia. They are Odin's Turkish folk. Gray Wolf greetings from Khazakistan.
Одун хаан у саха это Бог судьбы. Читайте мифологию якутов многое встанет на свои места.
@@ИмяФамилия-ч5ц I will do that.thanks.
I also live in a viking named area, Middlesbrough, ❤
Thank You! 💙💙💙💙💙🦩✨✨✨✨
The Byzantines proselytized up to today's Berlin at least. That's how Church Glagolithic/ Slavonic spread.
I love the morrowind music
Why khagan?
Сїи славныи ѿ славныихъ рожьсѧ благороденъ ѿ бл҃городныих каганъ нашь Влодимеръ и възрастъ и ѹкрѣпѣвъ ѿ дѣтескыи младости паче же възмѫжавъ крѣпостїю и силою съвершаꙗсѧ мѫжьствомъ же и съмыслом̑ прѣдъспѣа и единодержець бывъ земли своеи покоривъ подъ сѧ ѡкрѫгънѧа страны ѡвы миромъ а непокоривыа мечемь
A remarkable job in laying out the uncertainties and complexities of the matter. And very fun to watch. More questions than answers is always fun. I am sharing this with every Finn, Scandinavian, Turk and Ukrainian I know. (I don't don't talk to Russians until next order.) By the way, what you call "Byzantines" called themselves Romans, as I am sure you know.
Brokrasi greek
Empire ,lejyon,international roman
@@onurorlun3203 Incomprehensible!
It is possible to have a nation without capitol. Only fortresses and fortified villages with jarls and few soldiers.
Thank you for this fascinating video, looking at the history of Kyivan Rus from this eastern (rather than northern) angle was very insightful!
I was very surprised when you used the word "khagan" for Rus' rulers - it turned out to be even more successful clickbait than "eastern vikings", haha :)
And even more surprised after googling and checking that it did, indeed, replace the title of "knyaz" in this period, or at least in foreign affairs. The more you know.
Look into the books of Russian historian L.N.Gumilyev, you find it there.
I know where the word Kneaz comes from, but it is a long story.
Everything is wrong in this video.
I am flabbergasted by the insane take over of the Turks being everything East of Black Sea, by the Western scholars and historians.
The word and title of Kagan, or the real words being Ka Khan are not Turkish. They are Romanian words.
KA meant "head".
KA KHAN meant "head of heads".
In Romanian KA is KAP
KA KHAN is KAPUL KAPILOR.
The Mongols were not Turks. They were related to they Huns, and the Huns were Romanian ancestors. There still is the city of HUNEDOARA which means "city of Huns".
It is insane how these scholars claim that there were Turks everywhere while there are Romanians all over those places now. Where did all the Romanians came from suddenly, and replaced the Turks???.......when did they do that???
Huns, Sarmati, Avars, Tatar Golden Horde, Goths, were all Romanian ancestors, and Mongols of Genghis Khan were close cousins. Procopius, Priscus and Ana Comnena reveal al these information. The Secret History of the Mongols does it as well. Am I the only one who studied all these books???
The word Khagan is a completely Turkish word.
@@TUNC66 Explain the meaning of it!!!
@ass
Of course I can explain, the meaning of Khagan is (Leader of leaders).
Great video! I was thinking of the comparison to America before you said it. It seems to me that every people is either the result of an offshoot from another group or from a joining together of different groups.
Magius/ Magog(red devil) people waged war on Gog
Kiev was much better location to control the rus khaganate than Aldeigjuborg or Holmgard. Kiev was by Dnepr but Holmgard and Aldeigjuborg were by Volkhov and ships had to be pulled on land twice to get to Dnepr and Black sea. However the great rapids south of Kiev were stopping all Byzantine ships from entering Kiev.
“Source? I made it up.”
-Arab Historian
Kudurma kuduz dog
This is the coolest part of Russian history; Vikings who cosplay as Mongols, who become the Russian Nobility
The author is right in one thing, Russia is a conglomeration of tribes from Slavic tribes, Finno-Ugric, which were later joined by Turkic peoples, Which is why Russia has existed for more than 1000 years.This is a union with equal rights, but of course with the dominance of the Orthodox faith after the baptism of Russia and up to the First World War, the Civil War and the seizure of power by communism.
After the collapse of the Golden Horde, the Turkic nobility was added to the Slavic nobility, including from the descendants of Genghis Khan, who began to serve the Grand Duke of Moscow, then he became Сzar (Caesar).Under Peter the Great, the Ostsee German barons joined the Russian Aristocracy, and many migrant aristocrats from Europe from Ireland, Scotland, Norway, Denmark, and France.
For example, the famous Russian poet Mikhail Lermontov was a descendant of a Scottish mercenary. George Lermont, who entered the Russian service at the beginning of the 17th century, was probably in turn a descendant of Thomas Lermont, a famous Scotsman of the 13th century.
Later, under Catherine 2, many German nobility moved to Russia and became Russian nobility.
Even before Catherine came to power many germans already lived in Russia. The relationship between the Rus and their Germanic and other Indo European brothers are much deeper and older than with tatars. Turks and Mongols came as intruders much later.
😂 mongols are turks are indigenous to öoscow and russia
@@bertrecht913 number the'' many'' = . . . . . ?
@@Manuka-px2pe Nope 😅
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The swedish rus copied Turkic rulership and titles, after the desteoyed the khazar khaganate. They even call modern day Mantı, as pelmeni, they aldo call bashlir horde, akhal tekee horses as russian horses. 😂 delusional migrants, need to get butt 🦵 out of euroasia.
There's no proof that this state has ever existed, to begin with, the Rurikids never made mention of it in any of the Rus-Roman treaties and the PC, and neither are there remains of it. Furthermore, "warlike aristocracy of violent, river-bound merchants"? The Rus/Rurikids were hereditary tribal nobility that subsided from taxation, governing, and warfare, not craftsmen plying trades, the traders and the swords-for-hire were the Varangians, not the Rus.
but they were called kagans, that’s a fact.
similar voice like the guy from Let’s talk religion… it just the Swedish accent?
200 rus ships attacking on Constantinople sounds exaggerated. It also may have been some actual ships and many dugout canoes which could have passed the great chain protecting the golden horn. No ship with mast was able to cross the chain.
the "ships" were most likely small and light boats with detachable masts, the sort used in sweden and russia since before the viking age and after, some even slavic canoes as you mentioned(called monoxyla in a byzantine source), all of them designed to be easily portaged over land areas(answering your other statement about kiev as the capital). Kiev appears to have become the capital after the Rus and Byzantines signed a treaty in 911, making the southern trade route more important, whereas in the 9th century the trade route to the Caspian sea through the Khazars was the important one
I love the Morrowind music!
khagan - shogun...?
4:40 it isn't originaly turkic
Sweden had a great influence on Russia about 1000-1200 years ago. It was common that in the elite of Kyiv-Rus or Novgorod -Rus that they had one, two or more swedish ancestors/relatives. As late as 14th c icelandic scribes called Rus area for "The great/big Sweden". Common cultural features still exists. F.ex. in eastern Sweden when older people see a black cat they still spit three times over left shoulder to stop misfortunes to happen, exactly what they do in Russia...Other similarites is a sacrifice to Tomte/Nisse or farmspirit, in Russia it´s called Domevoi. Both people used to put steel in cradle or threshold to stop Trolls or Lezji(treepeople) to steal the children...
Southern Slavs do all those things as well.
@@djendeta They do? I had no idea... Maybe Sweden also was influenced by Russia...
@@hakanliljeberg790 oh yes, but i wouldnt tie those customs to any particular people. i think that is something that is done across Europe and imho predates both Russians and Swedes. In some cultures such customs are kept more than in others.
My name is Hakan, Turkish name, meaning is king, ruler, emperor. Khagan, Hakan, Kaan, Kağan same. It is common name in Türkiye, Hakan is transformed of Khagan. I herd sweden name Hakon or Hakan. It is a king's name, I saw a movie about it and I met some swedish tourists, their names were Hakan. Hakan and Khagan used in all Turkish states even Ottoman Empire for example HÂKĀNÎ MEHMED BEY (1600 ???)
Khagan/Khan/ Kağan is a Turkish title.
@Survival87 and you are nobody to talk about Turks at all , '' later ones were an divergent culture '' who are you to tell this ? a nobody - Hun Burials - early Seljuk Burials - Scythian Burials all proves that modern Turks were just like their ancestors , its your western thing to claim Turks to be looking asiatic to begin with , mind your own buisness about things you have no information about find another subject to write about , this subjects are strongly supported by an ideology that not even your entire nation can handle
Turkic-Mongolic*
They werent brothers
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Denmark-Skagen? 4:30
For making such kind of video you must read the ”Djagfar Tarihi” -the old Bulgarian chronicle, otherwise your suppositions about Kazar khaganate intermingling with old Russian mythologies. The old Russians was in alliance of steppe people, Scythians, Yam Naya culture and so on. The arab historical sources are to lates for describes the antique histories.
sources say that the state of the Russian Kaganate originates from the Avar
America was named after John Americ not Amerigo Vespucci. Famous map maker, got his way.
America is actually named after the Feathered Serpent god. "Amarucu" = Land of feathered serpents according to the Indians of central America I'd like to see a video on that one.
@Tuscarora except that's not true is it.
@@rossdiggle I guess we'll never know but I heard it was what the Indians called the land before Columbus came along, years and years ago.
Casually sprinkled in the myth of "Great" (it's old) Moravia , with that fake map.
For Turks who are watching 21:17
Urmak (old turkic) = Vurmak
Uruş = Vuruş (as in Virash that he mentions)
Vuruş = hit/impact
Vuruşmak = To hit each other/one another/to fight each other
To be honest this Uruş theory doesn’t convince me. Turks are/were grammatically pretty accurate in naming places/people, and naming “people” as “Uruş” is grammatically incorrect. Uruşgan / Uruşkan / Uruşan / Uruşhan would all make sense and be correct.
Which leads me to..
Uruşgan
= UruşKan
= Uruş Kaghan/Khan/Han/Kaan
which makes total sense.
“Uruşgan” would truly translate into “those hitting/fighting with each other”, often used to describe boys who end up in fights.
The Kan in Uruşkan and Khan (=Khagan/Han/Kaan) are of course different. But over time this may have been misinterpreted and turned into such. Btw Vuruşkan is still used as a last name.
Edit: sadly enough Vuruşkan today also has the meaning “those who f.ck each other”. To hit on..
Khagan is what the Khazar rulers were called.
both Kağan Kaghan and Hakan Hakon are turkish names given to their princes,chiefs and leader...so the early rus,as well as other kaghanates,or hakans,were turks...but even the names ala refer to ancient turkic cities,or a mixture of turks with slavs
Rus were never turks. Please don't spread missinformations. The originaly Rus society were a mix of germanic, slavic and fino ugrisch people and not tatars. Tatars and Mongols were our Nemesis. 😅
@@bertrecht913 u wont like it,but they mixed with turks😖 ... almost every rus has 2% turkic ancestry,just check out daniel tabins poster on xioung nu scythian sarmatian turkic ancestry
about spreading misinformation...i came to a conclusion because of certain titles and names,geography and titles tell a lot as well as archeology and dna
@@nukhetyavuz Russian DNA is mostly R1B or R1A and some have I1A like scandinavians. Turks and Rus have totally different origin and DNA. Of course over the time people mingled with each others but the culturaly and ethnic differences is too big as if you could way they are brothers or the Rus were turks. That is absolutely not true it's like to say the germans and turks were brother nations. Real brother nations are firstly the other slavic, especially the east slavic people like Ukrainian and Belarus and after that, the other european nations - not turks! ;)
@@nukhetyavuz If you meant Tatars from Russia, that is definitely correct, but not russians...
Old Kazan is said to have been founded by the Volga Bulgars in 1000 AD, but was destroyed by the invasion of the Golden Horde in the 13th century and lost its independence. The new Kazan Khanate, according to official history, was said to have emerged in 1393 and existed as a political entity from Moscow or another russian state, even until the mid-16th century then it was conquered by the half tatar Ivan the terrible... yes some rus, even some nobles mingled with tatars but that doesn't mean that the rus were a turkic people and ethnic origin is never insignificant for understanding its true origin and meaning. Some information is distorted here and safe and trustworthy sources are not mentioned. I think that some of these Arabic scholars equated tatars with russians and that much of the history of the pre christianization of the europeans was destroyed or manipulated by the churches, yet Slavs, Germanic peoples and other Indo-European peoples are not Turks or Mongols and never became the domains of the christian orthodox Rus referred as Khaganates. For the very nearby Turkic people of the Kipchaks, for example, things looking completely different.
Vladamir Putin brought me here 😂
Waldemar.
Vladtimur
Vlad is Veps
Tucker Carlson brought me here!
Absolutely incredible slapdown of VP’s history without ever once mentioning his name, just days after the infamous interview which will likely be forgotten long after the ideas summarized by this video become part of the shared subconscious.
So if Khagan is a bit like Emperor and Rus or Turk something like Roman. Could it be that other kings and nations tried to claim legitimacy by using title Khagan and nation like Rus or Turk, even though they might be a conqueror. We see it with the Roman Empire being claimed by Russian Zar and German King and even Ottoman Empire. Just thinking that we might have lost the old identity of some eastern tribes or nations in this way.
You are right, the rus are seedes copying and role playing as Turkic khagans, kings
yeah, yeah, everything is scandinavian, germanic, and event turkic, very fashionable
These guys come from China . R1a heplogroup aka sloves built the China wall to keep the hohn Chinese from migrating north after the cultivation of rice . After the cultivation of rice there was a population explosion by heplogroup O by what is now hong Kong . These guys got overwhelmed and migrated west through the Eurasian steppe .
Stop writing nonsense, haplogroup R1a, originally from the Hindustan peninsula, like all Indo-European peoples, There is still a large group with this haplogroup of blood in India and it is mainly the Brahmin caste.then a lot of people migrated from Hindustan to Iran (Persia), where this haplogroup is also present in large numbers, and Iran is the Arias
@@макслюлюкин I don't think so pal .
Bro creating his own fanfiction
Two coins don't indicate a strong influence.
The Vandals/Wendlas/Wends did some Vikinging too.
I thought wends were Slavs like Samo the Frank’s state. Sorry if I’m wrong though
@@wahcks1142 That's how it's taught.
The teaching says: The Vandals moved to Africa and the Wends came.
Now the Old Saxon “wendlas” refers to the Vandals.
There was also correspondence between those who remained at home and the Vandals in Carthage regarding the farms of those who had left.
As with the Goths, some moved to the Roman Empire and some came under Hun rule.
It's thought that Estonians and Finns got their ethnonym for Russians (venelased) from there
"treacherous"
That part does not make sense. A culture that unreliable simply cannot generate such a trade network as DID happen.
Not to mention, it could barely function at all. And the "viking" culture most certainly DID function. Arguably quite well even.
And we know from the old laws of Scandinavia that theft or criminality overall was dealt with severely. But we also have decently strong indications that there was not actually much need for the rulings of law(or at least, not much compared to what you would expect from the populations involved).
The "ting" meetings, which were yearly at most, appears to have rarely taken up more than a few days to resolve a whole year worth of legal/criminal issues that needed official treatment.
And this is completely contradictory to the idea of the viking culture being that totally internally unreliable.
I think it is much more likely that those kinds of precautions were taken because they were in foreign lands, not against themselves.
While i DO think there was "infighting" to some degree, i think it is more likely to have been something closer to that of the N.American indians semi-ritualised raiding and combat. More showing off than "i want to steal and murder everything and everyone in my sight".
Like to hear more about the jews interactions back then - tired of ppl trying to stop anyone from talking about religion, ethnicity history etc the influence of Persian Jews on Khazaria and the west spread of jewish traders