Have you bought anything to learn to play? Or rented one for " your 10 yr old child " who is in the orchestra in case they dont rent to adults there? Buying one thing at a time as your budget allows is better than waiting and waiting but never getting any closer to your goals
Thank you! You are bridging the classical world and this whole new world for me. I had really only heard Charlie Daniel’s electric style. We all know that is amazing but, I feel like I’ve been living under a rock.
@@ruuowo There are sweet spots where quality and affordability meet, but if someone really has no way to go higher then I think it can still be better to get something in their budget than nothing at all. You just have to figure out if you can be satisfied with the lower quality.
I love love love my NS design. But from my experience I think it's a bad first violin. It's highly customizable to fit so many ergonomic needs. Thats usually a good thing but when you're starting out and have no frame of reference, that can make it hard to dial in. Once I got an acoustic I knew how it was supposed to feel and I no longer have comfort issues with the NS.
That's probably fair. I doubt that Ned Steinberger was anticipating that someone would try to learn violin on an electric. I bet he was assuming that his customers would be coming from an acoustic instrument.
I had played on traditional acoustic for 10 years before getting my NS Wav. I nearly returned it due to severe neck pain that I never experienced on my acoustic. It took patience and fiddling with the shoulder rest height to achieve a comfortable playing position. I love it and now have played on my NS Wav exclusively for 5 years. Christmas 2021 I got a Boss Pocket GT, and really love the set up with my Wav
This week's project. Very cheap used Chinese violin (£10 off marketplace). Change the strings (£40?). Cut down the ludicrously high bridge. KNA pickup (£79 ordered today). Sand it down a bit and spray with the remains of a rattle can or two EVH style). Fill with spray foam maybe (£10 but probably free because I'll have some left over from a job before long). There ≈£150! Foot ready to pose on the monitor. 😂😆😁
Maybe someone knows if there is any business that sells violin parts to build your own such as Warmoth does for electric guitars? Im talking about buying the necks and bodies too, not just the other little parts such as tailpiece (for acoustic ones). Even if the vendor is in Europe.
Does an acoustic-electric violin have a sound post? I want to begin on the electric because I ordered a regular acoustic and it arrived with the sound post already fallen so I couldn’t play it until I got the tools to reset it, and I’m not interested in learning to play if I have to keep messing with the sound post.
@@ElectricViolinShop So you can't change it? Because the SV250 is listed under the instruments that have a changeable chin rest at around 5 minutes into the video.
Man that's crazy expensive. How come I can get an incredible electric guitar for 600€ but only an entry level electric violin? There's more material and tech in the guitar!
Great question. I think the answer lies in two different definitions of the word "scale". First, there are about 1000 guitar players for every violinist, so they've scaled up production for guitars, driving down cost. Second, a violin is a lot smaller. So precision has to go up a lot. If a dimension on a beginner guitar is off by a couple millimeters, it's no big deal. If a dimension on a violin is off by a couple millimeters, you can't even play it.
I think you are full of bullshit. Guitars need to be much more precisely built and set up. Electric violins are a complete rip-off and all sound horrid if the sound isn't correctly processed. Get a cheap used student instrument, a KNA pickup, and fill with spray foam. Voila!
don't learn on electric its 2022... we all live in craped apartments,. get with the times XD - Hoping I can find a cheap electric to learn the skills on then transfer it to a normal violin.
All electric violins sound horrid unless you preamp, EQ, match impedance (at least 1M?), use reverb, and wipe the rosin off your strings. I use a POD HD500 into a small PA. The HD500 did take a bit of setting up.
Man I was really hoping to buy an electric violin because I can’t play in my apartment. But those prices are way beyond me 😭 Thanks for the advice!
Have you tried a heavy steel or rubber mute? They work pretty well a little too well I think..
Have you bought anything to learn to play? Or rented one for " your 10 yr old child " who is in the orchestra in case they dont rent to adults there? Buying one thing at a time as your budget allows is better than waiting and waiting but never getting any closer to your goals
Thank you! You are bridging the classical world and this whole new world for me. I had really only heard Charlie Daniel’s electric style. We all know that is amazing but, I feel like I’ve been living under a rock.
Thanks so much!
"start around 600 dollars" looks like this isn't for me 😢
Same
fr i thought around 200 shiould be fine for starting but nvm
@@ruuowo
There are sweet spots where quality and affordability meet, but if someone really has no way to go higher then I think it can still be better to get something in their budget than nothing at all. You just have to figure out if you can be satisfied with the lower quality.
Get a used student fiddle and add a KNA pickup. Fill with spayfoam for the silent effect. Sorted £250 ish.
@@11000038 you're the goat
Thanks for sharing. Simple an clear
Excellent video. Lots of information, very concise.
I love love love my NS design. But from my experience I think it's a bad first violin. It's highly customizable to fit so many ergonomic needs. Thats usually a good thing but when you're starting out and have no frame of reference, that can make it hard to dial in. Once I got an acoustic I knew how it was supposed to feel and I no longer have comfort issues with the NS.
That's probably fair. I doubt that Ned Steinberger was anticipating that someone would try to learn violin on an electric. I bet he was assuming that his customers would be coming from an acoustic instrument.
I had played on traditional acoustic for 10 years before getting my NS Wav. I nearly returned it due to severe neck pain that I never experienced on my acoustic. It took patience and fiddling with the shoulder rest height to achieve a comfortable playing position. I love it and now have played on my NS Wav exclusively for 5 years. Christmas 2021 I got a Boss Pocket GT, and really love the set up with my Wav
What a great video, thanks for the info
Thank you so much for the video. So helpful and straight to the point. Keep up the great work!
5:09 Nice list, but I don't think that the Yamaha SV250 can change the chin rest. Could you confirm that pls?
i love my realist 5 string violins !
This week's project. Very cheap used Chinese violin (£10 off marketplace). Change the strings (£40?). Cut down the ludicrously high bridge. KNA pickup (£79 ordered today). Sand it down a bit and spray with the remains of a rattle can or two EVH style). Fill with spray foam maybe (£10 but probably free because I'll have some left over from a job before long). There ≈£150! Foot ready to pose on the monitor. 😂😆😁
Pretty interesting, String Teachers don't realize that instruments (both Acoustic & Electric) aren't built for Skill Levels
Maybe someone knows if there is any business that sells violin parts to build your own such as Warmoth does for electric guitars? Im talking about buying the necks and bodies too, not just the other little parts such as tailpiece (for acoustic ones). Even if the vendor is in Europe.
Does an acoustic-electric violin have a sound post? I want to begin on the electric because I ordered a regular acoustic and it arrived with the sound post already fallen so I couldn’t play it until I got the tools to reset it, and I’m not interested in learning to play if I have to keep messing with the sound post.
An acoustic-electric violin is an acoustic violin. So, yes. It has a soundpost.
Are there any updates on seven string sets? I’m still looking for a Bflat. Thanks.
Nothing yet
Hey man any recommendations on an electric viola for live performances?
Sure. We just did a TikTok on electric violas today. And holler at us at the shop and we can chat about the options for violists.
@@MattBellViolinist thank you
i was thinking an electric violin might be good for a beginner because it makes less noise when you don't unplug it so no annoyed neighbors.
How can you change the chin rest on a Yamaha SV250? It always looks like it's fixed due to the instrument jack for the control box right beneath.
It's molded into the body.
@@ElectricViolinShop So you can't change it? Because the SV250 is listed under the instruments that have a changeable chin rest at around 5 minutes into the video.
Man that's crazy expensive. How come I can get an incredible electric guitar for 600€ but only an entry level electric violin?
There's more material and tech in the guitar!
Great question. I think the answer lies in two different definitions of the word "scale". First, there are about 1000 guitar players for every violinist, so they've scaled up production for guitars, driving down cost. Second, a violin is a lot smaller. So precision has to go up a lot. If a dimension on a beginner guitar is off by a couple millimeters, it's no big deal. If a dimension on a violin is off by a couple millimeters, you can't even play it.
@@ElectricViolinShop I hadn’t considered your second point. Thanks.
I think you are full of bullshit. Guitars need to be much more precisely built and set up. Electric violins are a complete rip-off and all sound horrid if the sound isn't correctly processed. Get a cheap used student instrument, a KNA pickup, and fill with spray foam. Voila!
don't learn on electric
its 2022... we all live in craped apartments,. get with the times XD - Hoping I can find a cheap electric to learn the skills on then transfer it to a normal violin.
Sad and so true
I'm left handed. Could I play a violin still.
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The funny thing is to call any of these instruments for beginners considering their starting price.
All electric violins sound horrid unless you preamp, EQ, match impedance (at least 1M?), use reverb, and wipe the rosin off your strings. I use a POD HD500 into a small PA. The HD500 did take a bit of setting up.
Based on your other comments, it sounds like you're mostly working with extremely cheap instruments. That might be the biggest factor....
Violins are supposed to have four strings. No more , no less.
@iiiiiiiv Every single actual violinist in the world.
@iiiiiiiv So you are not a violinist. You are a something else-ist
@iiiiiiiv I am not even going to waste my time talking to you. Good evening.
@@Alex-j9p2w remind me not to invite you over for dinner.