Moog Labyrinth - Demo and Review
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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May I just say, Jeremy, that you are a wonderfully talented communicator, musician and an inspiration. And a UA-camr - at least from my probably superannuated world view - that’s far from the norm. Integrity, a sense of camaraderie, silliness and twiddle dexterity. Just a smidgeon of terms that describe you.
Sorry. Don’t want to blow smoke up your arse.
But thank you!
It is the passionate 'tism & empathy, I feel as well~
I get those compliments as well all the time, with being a safespace.
🎉 Yes, an amazing person!!
Lisa Bella Donna is amazing. I'm not into Moog gear, especially at this stage, but she's clearly got that jam down.
Absolutely agree
Thanks, I had pretty much written Moog off after the acquisition, but your honest share and objective review was insightful and mature perspective. I’m not sure Labyrinth will be a fit for me, but without this review I didn’t even give it a chance. I’m sure synth marketing groups love all the day of video releases, but they feel so trite and worthless anymore. The bigger the campaign the more skeptical I am. These are the types of videos from the creators we trust that are real and honest that carry meaningful influence.
Inmusic if you’re listening, this video convinced me to stay open minded to buying Moog again. I acknowledged what it’s worth me. What’s the worth to you? I hope you appreciate and acknowledge this video too.
Cool unspoken metaphor between gear and humans. I looked at the labyrinth already and decided it is not for me but watched this to see if I should change my mind. Fantastic and balanced review.
Coming from someone who almost always has a generative patch permanently plugged into my modular, this was a great addition to my setup. I have the Chroma Console and Microcosm chained up with it, and its a great little Moog Grandmother/Eurorack/Labyrinth combo. Looking forward to continuing to explore. Thanks for this!
I’ve had a hard time wrapping my mind around what the labyrinth is without being able to actually use one. I really loved hearing your thoughts on it, I feel like you gave it a really open minded perspective, and I finally feel like I have a good idea of what it is.Thanks as always, Jeremy.
Thanks for this awesome review Jeremy! One thing that I really like that you (and people like Mylar Melodies or Ben Jordan do) when looking at gear is really assess the musicality of it first and foremost. I feel like as synthesists it is so easy to get sucked in to the "just make noise" mentality that can be limiting on the long term of generating art. I think a lot of gear companies abuse this definitely, but I also think it is a failure of how we talk about and teach synthesis as an artform, as a vein of musical expression. Like no piano teacher or brass teacher or whatever would fail to mention musicality in performance in their first lesson with a student, but people are exposed to new synth gear every day with the foremost element being "it has this filter and this wave shaper and this sequencer". I fucking looooove nerding out over the construction of synths, and that's why I honestly love building and designing my own stuff, but at the end of the day what's behind the case doesn't matter for playability. I appreciate that you put that first in this review, and I think it's given me a better appreciation for what Moog has been doing with the Sound Studio stuff as a modular enthusiast who kind of balks at the limitations of semimodular equipment. Very good video, very cool dude, keep making noises!
You and Andrew Huang are who I go to to hear what an instrument sounds like at its best, what a truly skilled musician can do with it. Thanks for the demo and the review!
Mylar makes it slap too!
I really love your unique approach to this gear review. Thank you for sharing!
I would love to see a follow up video where you recreate most of what Labyrinth in Eurorack, only without the limitations you bumped into. I think it would be really revealing from a creativity perspective and also from a cost perspective
great idea - especially the cost - so one can do a better personal analysis of how involved an equivalent eurorack setup would be in terms of cost as well as range
The Labyrinth concept predates inMusic, so there's that, at least. Though I've already got four units of the "Mother" ecosystem, I have no real reason to get a Labyrinth. My kit is already overrun with generative tools. Any further dollars I dump into gear need to focus more on assisting deliberate composition. Still, if this had come out a few years ago, I certainly would have snagged it immediately. And, I admit, the completionist in me may yet get one some day.
Great review, BTW.
Aye, pick-up a lightly-used one in 3-5 years :)
I'm endlessly intrigued by this thing. It sounds so heavy and industrial and the only reason I haven't bought one is that I own a Syntakt, and I'm convinced that with some ingenuity and effort I can essentially turn the Syntakt into a labyrinth at least in terms of sound. It might not be as truly generative, but with clever lfo use and polymeters.... There's gotta be a way. The bones are there.
Thanks for this video. I, too thought of Moog as taxidermy now. they just came out with a new synth and although I prefer their bass sounds in the older gear. they apparently are winning hearts for this new synthesizer. Time will tell.
The plumage don't enter into it. Awesome review ! I also adored the subharmonicon but man was it hard to get it to play nice with other gear given the intonation and scales that made it sound the best.
This microcosm patch is very Annihilation and I fuckin adore it
Oh my God right? I had the exact same thought on occasion. Fun fact, that sting that everyone associated with the movie soundtrack is actually an Apparat song: the mark
@@RedMeansRecording Humbly requesting "So you want to make a sound - Annihilation Edition" :)
@@RedMeansRecording oh shoot! Imma check that out.
Also, this review was really exceptionally written and delivered, you really break down what it can do and I’m looking forward to seeing you conduct more of the Moogs!
@@RedMeansRecording would you be so kind to share the patches please 🙏
@@RedMeansRecording it’s Moderat 😊
this was such a wonderfully clean-cut review, I really really enjoyed it. the ambience was killer as well.
It'd be a shame if Moog didn't continue to support you, seeing as how this video made me want to build around one as a starting point quite a bit. I'd love to hear more from boxes like these from you!
Had the same thoughts when this came out! Glad you made this so I could get perspective
To be honest I feel the same way about Moog as you did. I play piano, love that neoclassical style and the matriarch was such a cool, different piece of gear that I love to use to this day. it is so much fun. Spectravox, mavis, and everything they released since the matriarch other than the subharmonicon didn't interest me at all. I have to say however, the labyrinth seems very interesting to me. It is the first time I've considered buying a Moog product since the matriarch.
This is the first gear from Moog Im interested in since the Subharmonicon! I love the mother, dfam and sub combo and use them a lot.I can imagine this would fit well between them. Sweet video! ^^
really fucking with the music and the ghostly vibe the background melody thing has around 4:55
The funny thing is that this is a really positive review!
It doesn't sound like it, because of all of the caveats and limitations that Jeremy has, but he's frank about how that's a him thing, and if you know anything about his approach (which is articulated pretty clearly across hundreds of videos), you know that unless you're doing what Jeremy does, you probably don't have the perspective Jeremy has. Like, yeah, it would be great for Jeremy if this device had twice as many patch points so that he could hook more of it up to his five-maybe-six figures of modular gear. And yeah, there's stuff in one of his many racks that does everything this box does. How could he not be disappointed?
At the same time, he made a ton of cool music with it, and he's done a great job of explaining what qualities of this piece of gear that music uses, and he makes it pretty easy to see what kind of gap this piece of gear would fill in the space of someone who _doesn't_ spend a hundred hours a year working with a functionally unlimited supply of modular equipment.
Sure, there's a whole sad narrative framing the last chapter of the story of Moog. But that's the whole sad narrative that's framing the last chapter of a lot of things in our lives. All of this is going away. We can be grateful for what we can get while we can still get it. If you think it's sad what shareholder capitalism is doing to your favorite manufacturer of oddball music gear, wait till you experience what it's doing to your hospitals, grocery stores, homes, and schools. Your social-media platforms and your governments. Once you start paying attention to that, what's happening to Moog is pretty small beer.
At least Jeremy isn't pretending none of that is happening.
Totally agree. It's positive, it's just not unrealistic.
Like, if some orchestral wind instrumentalist had every pitch-range of clarinet, oboe/bassoon, flute, sax, etc and had just been sent a really good student model. No matter how good it was, they'd view it as a downgrade.
I appreciate how clearly this positions your context for this review. So many reviews/reactions on YT pretend to be impersonal - lacking any individual perspective.
I kept waiting for some sci fi space mission to begin. Definitely made it sound good!
Thanks for the honest review
I love you videos. Great discussion on this unit. The experiment video came up in my feed and remembered I saw this one, so decided to watch this first. Now off to experiments.
this is one of the the more interesting Moogs I have seen. However its too much money for a random bleep bloop noise machine
THIS is the Labyrinth review I was looking for. Legit.
Great honest review!
Thx for your personal touch. Have a nice day.
Your review is great for the philosophical approach, and that's great because it explains _your_ mindset with what you have created with it. And that's a valuable perspective. Meanwhile someone like Andrew Huang has done a more technical review of what it can do that's a really different take. But I watched your video all the way through and enjoyed what I heard you make whilst I watched only a third of his video and was not inspired by his sounds.
I love this review approach. Storytelling 🤝 Info. Music alllll the time.
Excellent.
Hello, I really appreciate your time spent on Practically Every Model Every Model, semi modular gear. Although I am More Modular. I Always Had, Have Always LOVED, Love and Continue to love MOOG. I Rather Love Thier the 60hp Models. Dfam, MOTHER-32, Subharmonicon, Labyrinth and the Spektrovox. I would Very Much Like a Moogfest BFAM and Spektrovox build. I still have the Grandmother and Matriarch.
Maybe I will tattoo $100 Bill on my member just to see money grow🙄
I like this a lot. I like your video. I like the Labyrinth. I hate Moog now. I love your taxidermy analogy. Clearly they must have retained some good designers when they fired so many of their workers. With so many great synth companies out there I won't be giving Moog a dime, but maybe someday I'll snag one of these on the used market.
This synth reminds me of the E-Mu Audity 2000, in a very good way
When smoothed out, I think the Labyrinth sounds like the Vermona PERfourMER paired with a Vermona meloDICER. I hear a lot of tones in this video that resemble to my experiments with both Vermona devices.
You literally got me into the subharmonicon and it was the best instrument purchase I made in a long time. So I trust your guts on this. I don't personally like melodic randomness so it's not for me I guess. If ever it's discounted down the line, I might consider it for its sonic capabilities. Thanks again for the quality content as always.
I do have the Sound Studio semi-modular setup, albeit I got them all separate and not in the one-release format because I jumped on them soon. I have definitely enjoyed it, especially after spending thousands on a Eurorack utilities case to open them up even more. That was worth it. Just to let you know, I never got the Mavis.
So, do you not like the Labyrinth? Would it play well with the Mother-32, DFAM, and Subharmoicon (as well as my Eurorack utilities case)?
Or, overall would you not recommend the Labyrinth? Thank you in advance for any non-bias info you can provide me!
I loved this so much. just bought it but this is clearing up if I should keep it
Now i want a subharmonicon and dfam again i had forgotten about wanting them once more.
youve actually been the first review of this machine that actually puts it into a musical context instead of just showing what each part of it does, with oscilliscopes etc. sound like a genuiniely decent machine…..either that or just damn good at making it sound good 😬🤣
Personally, I'm still very excited about using my SPECTRAVOX and finding an assortment of Electronic Devices to patch into it. Using the DFAM along with a "Spacey" Reverb Pedal with the SPECTRAVOX is a favorite. So much more to explore using the Vocoder which isn't really a Vocoder as it does something to voice mixed with filters -
10 of them ranging from LP to HP with the addition of Spectral Shift... This is a wonderful surprise and a very different type of Synth from Moog ~
The LABYRINTH is not to my liking at all. I've watched, listened to enough videos about it to know that it's just not my "sound" and sound is quite powerfully personal to Musicians and Sound Artists as everyone here knows ❤~
The filter... I wish it was more, or even much more pronounced.
Why or why no separate outputs for each oscillator...
But I discovered that if you chain the seq, you can still bit shift seq 1 differently to seq 2 - magic!
What happens when you mix a double knot with a Mother 32?
What a fantastic video.
how did you change the voltage range for the CV range stuff to be 0 to 5? or is that just inherent in how far you turn the CV range knob.
Very nice, I like this thing a lot. On the eventual bucket list, but with the Digitakt 2 and gigantic PerFourMer Mk2 I kinda got all the voices and magic I need. But I feel like I'll consider this a lot next time I want to switch things up.
Good to hear your thoughts on this.
Like the spectravox, it’s not for me.
I mean, it sounds like a touring machine is running the show If you have a eurorack setup I'm honestly not sure why you'd ever jump for this. If you want a standalone version to tinker with, seems great.
I own the studio the dram and subharm are dope good for coming up with ideas I’d never the m32 though isn’t rlly anything special and beat out by things like serum
We love a UA-camr with morals.
1:09. Trying to understand this sentence here. Are the words “professional ennui”? I looked up the pronunciation and it’s more like “aan wee”. Defined as “a feeling of listlessness and dissatisfaction arising from a lack of occupation or excitement.” Just clearing up any confusion.
Worked at moog before the acquisition. It was *not* a good place to be. No idea what’s going on in that factory now
Do you think a pitch shifter or Octave pedal( 2 up 2 down) help ?
On last comment: your vid may be super honest (which is why peeps come to you) and “cynical”, but on a positive note hopefully Moog understand you’re just pushing them to push that env further (pun!?)
There was a sound from 10:10 to 10:15 that grabbed my ears like a ticked-off school teacher in the 60s.
Is that sound re-creatable? If so, can you create it in something else, or is it exclusive to it?
Willing to pay to find out.
Taxidermy metaphor goes hard af tbh
Curious to see how you would improve this in eurorack. I’m going to check out touring machines. The Labrynth reminds me of bastl kastle etc. the whole shift register. Really great for modulating waves and dynamics.
Now that I have a dfam I’m very tempted to get this and the moog sub harmonican but which to buy first ..
Let's do a review on it's own. Not everybody has other devices
My GAS is telling me that a dream combo for sound design would be the Subharmonicon and Labyrinth together, but I will not let myself make that purchase (yet, at least). I've seen some crazy combos when it comes to those two though, which really goes to show how much actual innovation can power creativity.
Tempted to sell my grandmother for one of these
N-U-E...is that Belgian Techno? 🙂
Probably one of the best reviews of this you'll find on UA-cam.
The buttons and pots are a huge nono. Hard pass. No matter how good it sounds.
Because they’re tiny?
3:11
I don’t want to buy it either 😂😩 Best release in this series for me
Dude! Don't you have a PRO 3? What's the point of this????
Ngl it sounds uninteresting and I'm not sure what it's supposed to do.
are those fake plants?
Have you checked the video description
❤
So then, is there a similar single-unit semi-modular desktop synth that does more than this and better?
Meh
If it was 300 bucks, inMusic would have so many more lookers, at least more owners of the DFAM, M32, and Subharmonicon would at least consider it. But so many owners of these units have little desire to spend 600 bucks for what this is... Just sayin... 600, I'll pass, no thought to buy, ,, 300 , now I'd probably buy it, if for no other reason than it is in the same form as those other 3 units...
moog labyrinth of boredom
“On-wee”, *not* “en-you-wee”.
“En-yu-eee” not “On-Wee”
Yes, the word is ennui
It's pronounced Moog
Sartre rhymes with fart, not Sun Ra.