First, thank you for your review/overview. Second, I'm very disappointed with this 2nd gen EL Range. No real functionality or optic improvement over the previous version. They don't even incorporate the new Swarovision or HD glass found in the recent, non-range EL binoculars. Unfortunately, I found this out the hard way after spending over $3,000 for an outdated optic. Will return mine this week and hopefully others are aware of this prior to purchase. I will look for the first gen around online to save some money. Since I don't really care for the new rubber caps or cords/straps that they "innovate" in this second generation. Range-finding function and glass are identical to the fist generation made 4 years ago.
+Thi Tran I don't know what you mean by HD glass but I have a near new 8x32 EL Swarovision and the only difference I can see is the EL Range doesn't have the flat field lenses of the SV's. They're certainly as sharp and contrast is similar. The optics aren't outdated at all as you seem to think. Many people don't like the Swarovision lenses because they see the rolling ball effect and the flat looking image isn't to everyone's taste. The new rangefinder button is nicer to use than the older one and the RF works faster as mentioned in the review. I ranged out to 1993 yards with the 2nd gen 10x42's. It's your money, but when you spread it out over many years what does it matter?
+Thi Tran The essence of these binoculars are the range-finding capabilities and not optical performance that they would compete with the normal EL Swarovision binoculars. But still all in all these binoculars are still great to look through even if they are not on the astonishing level of optical performance like the ordinary ELs.
+OpticsTradeEU Yes, the range-finding is important of course but they certainly don't take a back seat to the EL Swarovision bins optically and why should they as EL Range cost an arm and a leg? The SV's are over hyped by Swarovski North America, especially the flat field view. I and many others too, don't find the EL Swarovision's to have an astonishing level of optical performance. They're certainly among the best but I very much doubt you would be able to tell the difference between the SLC's, the EL Range or the EL Swarovision's in a blind (so to speak) test, except for the give away flat field view of the SV's.
zeissOholic You are right that the differences are small, however they are still noticeable. I also think that it is possible to see the difference between these binoculars even for those who are not experts. On the other hand when we talk about optical performance, I think that EL Swarovision, Victory SF and Ultravid Plus are all as good as it gets with small differences that sets them apart each other. All three of these pairs of binoculars are however optically better than their range finding counterparts EL range, Geovid HD-B and Victory RF. The real question is if this small difference in optical performance between range-finding binoculars and those without the range finding part plays any significant role in the field.
+OpticsTradeEU Good point about use in the field. The best binos I've used optically would be the Zeiss Victory HT 8x42. I can certainly see that the Zeiss and Leica RF binoculars aren't quite as good optically as the Zeiss HT or Leica Ultravid (close though, especially with the Geovid HD). Haven't tried the Ultravid Plus or Zeiss SF. Can't see any real difference with the new Swarovski EL Range and the two EL Swarovision's I've used. Actually slightly prefer the new Swarovski EL Range to my 2014 Swarovision 8x32 and 2013 10x42 as the SV's have a very flat non 3D image to me. I've therefore sold my 10x42 SV's. Might sell the 8x32 SV's too and get the neat little Leica Ultravid Plus 8x32's if I like them.
Hi thanks for the review. I'm trying to decide between a pair of Leica Geovid 10x42 HD-B and the Swarovski EL Range 10x42 W B. What would you recommend?
I have 10x42 Leica Geovid HD- B 3000. And 3200 now(2020)...all day. I have EL's, and glass is superb also .They might appear the same...however due to additional functions on Leica Geovid HD-B models it's a no brainer. I perhaps think my next purchase would be Leica 8x56 HD-B model due to large FOV @1000y.
This depends on what details you want to see on your observed object. With this binocular, you get the image 10 times closer than with your naked eyes, so if you want to see details on a deer that is 100-300 meters away it is definitely enough. If you want to see details on objects that are further away, you won't see them like with a bigger magnification binocular.
Optics Trade Ohh OK, thanks Do u know if there's a binocular or telescope that you can see space like we see the sky with many stars and other things, cause when I see videos or pics of astronomical binoculars or telescopes, you can only see like a planet but everything around is dark, how come since space isn't full of stars and other things I don't get it
There are very good, but unfortunately very expensive telescopes for observation of the stars, where you see much details. You will find them here: www.optics-trade.eu/en/telescopes.html
Thanks for the review. Very informational.
bback thank you.
+bback Yes, thank you OpticsTradeEU, it's a very good review, the best on the internet, that shows the worthwhile updates of the new model.
www.optics-trade.eu/en/swarovski-el-range-10x42-w-b.html
First, thank you for your review/overview.
Second, I'm very disappointed with this 2nd gen EL Range. No real functionality or optic improvement over the previous version. They don't even incorporate the new Swarovision or HD glass found in the recent, non-range EL binoculars. Unfortunately, I found this out the hard way after spending over $3,000 for an outdated optic. Will return mine this week and hopefully others are aware of this prior to purchase.
I will look for the first gen around online to save some money. Since I don't really care for the new rubber caps or cords/straps that they "innovate" in this second generation. Range-finding function and glass are identical to the fist generation made 4 years ago.
+Thi Tran I don't know what you mean by HD glass but I have a near new 8x32 EL Swarovision and the only difference I can see is the EL Range doesn't have the flat field lenses of the SV's. They're certainly as sharp and contrast is similar. The optics aren't outdated at all as you seem to think. Many people don't like the Swarovision lenses because they see the rolling ball effect and the flat looking image isn't to everyone's taste. The new rangefinder button is nicer to use than the older one and the RF works faster as mentioned in the review. I ranged out to 1993 yards with the 2nd gen 10x42's. It's your money, but when you spread it out over many years what does it matter?
+Thi Tran The essence of these binoculars are the range-finding capabilities and not optical performance that they would compete with the normal EL Swarovision binoculars. But still all in all these binoculars are still great to look through even if they are not on the astonishing level of optical performance like the ordinary ELs.
+OpticsTradeEU Yes, the range-finding is important of course but they certainly don't take a back seat to the EL Swarovision bins optically and why should they as EL Range cost an arm and a leg? The SV's are over hyped by Swarovski North America, especially the flat field view. I and many others too, don't find the EL Swarovision's to have an astonishing level of optical performance. They're certainly among the best but I very much doubt you would be able to tell the difference between the SLC's, the EL Range or the EL Swarovision's in a blind (so to speak) test, except for the give away flat field view of the SV's.
zeissOholic You are right that the differences are small, however they are still noticeable. I also think that it is possible to see the difference between these binoculars even for those who are not experts.
On the other hand when we talk about optical performance, I think that EL Swarovision, Victory SF and Ultravid Plus are all as good as it gets with small differences that sets them apart each other.
All three of these pairs of binoculars are however optically better than their range finding counterparts EL range, Geovid HD-B and Victory RF.
The real question is if this small difference in optical performance between range-finding binoculars and those without the range finding part plays any significant role in the field.
+OpticsTradeEU Good point about use in the field. The best binos I've used optically would be the Zeiss Victory HT 8x42. I can certainly see that the Zeiss and Leica RF binoculars aren't quite as good optically as the Zeiss HT or Leica Ultravid (close though, especially with the Geovid HD). Haven't tried the Ultravid Plus or Zeiss SF. Can't see any real difference with the new Swarovski EL Range and the two EL Swarovision's I've used. Actually slightly prefer the new Swarovski EL Range to my 2014 Swarovision 8x32 and 2013 10x42 as the SV's have a very flat non 3D image to me. I've therefore sold my 10x42 SV's. Might sell the 8x32 SV's too and get the neat little Leica Ultravid Plus 8x32's if I like them.
Hi thanks for the review. I'm trying to decide between a pair of Leica Geovid 10x42 HD-B and the Swarovski EL Range 10x42 W B.
What would you recommend?
James Taylor swarovski , any day!
I have 10x42 Leica Geovid HD- B 3000. And 3200 now(2020)...all day. I have EL's, and glass is superb also .They might appear the same...however due to additional functions on Leica Geovid HD-B models it's a no brainer. I perhaps think my next purchase would be Leica 8x56 HD-B model due to large FOV @1000y.
Is that Novak Djokovic talking? 😂
I need El range binocular key
What does range finding binocular means
This means, that these Binoculars have an integrated laser rangefinder, so you see the distance in the binocular to the object you are watching.
Optics Trade Thanks for answering my question :* ♡
How far can u see with this binocular how many meters
This depends on what details you want to see on your observed object. With this binocular, you get the image 10 times closer than with your naked eyes, so if you want to see details on a deer that is 100-300 meters away it is definitely enough. If you want to see details on objects that are further away, you won't see them like with a bigger magnification binocular.
Optics Trade Ohh OK, thanks
Do u know if there's a binocular or telescope that you can see space like we see the sky with many stars and other things, cause when I see videos or pics of astronomical binoculars or telescopes, you can only see like a planet but everything around is dark, how come since space isn't full of stars and other things I don't get it
There are very good, but unfortunately very expensive telescopes for observation of the stars, where you see much details.
You will find them here:
www.optics-trade.eu/en/telescopes.html
Optics Trade hey do you ship to Italy?