Should You Train to Failure?
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When I train to failure, I feel like I’ve had the correct amount of intensity 🤷♂️
Extremely underrated channel. Thanks for the info Coach!
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I think the biggest reason to train to failure is to make sure that you are not too far away from failure. The more experienced one gets, the less of an issue this becomes, but I definitely misjudged how hard I was(n't) training during my first few years.
Training to failure is fun ❤ My life is meaningless without it
Excellent channel. I've just subscribed.
My two pence worth. Isn't it all about recovery? If you don't recover you won't grow or get stronger. Muscle breaks down and then regrows bigger/stronger. If it doesn't recover it can't do that.
As you stated, there are so many variables involved. I'm 60 now and my recovery from a good chest workout is now about 4 days. It didn't take that long when I was 30 or 40. So I train heavy/lighter/to failure/short of failure etc etc depending on how I feel at the time. That's me and that's my stage of life and what I want to achieve from working out. But those same principles apply surely to everyone. If you aren't fully recovered and you train to failure again, then not only are you not training effectively but at some point soon you will start to regress. That's just the way it is.
Bottom line, do whatever you can to recover before breaking down your muscles all over again. Only the individual knows whether they are/have done that each session.
And yes I wish l was still 30 and training and exercising far too much again 😁
It’s all about stimulus and recover. If you don’t train with adequate stimulus, doesn’t matter how well you recover
If your coach is quoting Beardsley, you know you’re in the right place.
One of my favorite “research guys”
Peter Beardsley?!
@@screambluemurder101 Chris Beardsley my friend
The first time i read his article i realized that i know nothing about training
This is the first time you made me think about how perfect form itself can make recovery itself harder because of the mental effort to maintain that..Brilliant. Thanks for sharing and keep it coming if you can 😃
John Meadows once said something like - he is a pro a he doesn't exactly knows what RIR2 or 3 feels like, and even RIR1, it varies from day to day too much for him to surely tell.
So.. training to simple failure is a good way to get rid of one variable and focus on the more important ones I guess..
Dorian Yates swore that last few reps meant everything.
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It depends on the exercise... For bis, tris, shoulders and back you can take almost every exercise to failure safely, for isolation (chest fly, leg extension/curl..) also... But for other compounds, squat, bb bench.. It's not the best idea
Agreed, especially because it can be dangerous to take a BB bench or a squat to failure if you do not have a training partner
You can do anything to failure safely
@@paulmcf1115 yes, but is not practical. Doing bb bench and squat to failure means unloading the bar after each set, re racking, loaded again, and repeat.
Truly Spot on words - at 61 and still completing in bodybuilding, I completely understand. Your question and explanation of "what is a rep" is truth that I implement every exercise. Awesome video
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Main argument seems to revolve around the neural demands and contributions towards potential systemic overtraining from repeatedly TRYING to move a weight you can't move. That's supposed to be the difference -- along with how frequently and densely it is incorporated into one's training. I've personally experimented with the "take every set to failure" dogma, and ended up burning out fast.
6:20 - 7:06 - You did touch on the arguable points, one being that if everything else adapts, maybe that’s why the fear isn’t there. People adapt more easily to things if they’re introduced slowly. Anyway, I see where you’re going with it.
Thanks for the insight Joe! Always interesting to hear your thoughts.
I know as I get older my main focus is on what I can do that allows me to continue to make progress in the long term, instead of what's technically "optimal".
Still I struggle with not training to failure for two reasons and my joints are telling me to go fuck myself for it: 1) I hate finishing a workout and feeling like I wasted training time because I didn't grind out every last rep. 2) I KNOW balls-out training works because that's personally how I got to my biggest when I was younger. Of course in my mind I know pretty much any method will work given the right consistency and effort, but try telling that to my bodybuilder brain :)
I spent the last month trying to perfect form and have an internal locus of focus and control and today I loosened up form hoping that even though my tempo was faster, my body knew how to use the muscles and boy did it work and give me a hell of a pump. Always experiment and listen to your body!
I hit like before watching. Great content always.
Some channels have earned that honor, this being one of them. I do the same.
I always love your perspective and appreciate your knowledge!
I love training to technical failure big time.
I agree, it's another tool in the toolbox but should be used wisely.
Great common sense comments. Thank you Joe.
Convicted. I need to work on recovery, especially sleep
As always - good quality advice.
Depending on the exercise is if I go to failure for me heavy compounds n as strict as comfortable form . I normally keep one or two in the tank bc as I go through the workout with other movements I will hit everything . And I can’t afford injury bc I do shows if you hit it smart n eat n rest you will grow . Thanks bro very good video n some really good topics .. I’m very open minded n I love listening to your channel n you help me in my training 🙏
I really appreciate the nuance and perspective
Rest Pause. No need to grind past Failure. Straight sets are straight sets-no grinders no failure. I do straight sets with lots of time between sets trying to move more weight. And Rest Pause sets to increase intensity and volume.
Rest Pause>Past Failure. Money Rep$
Definitely a great option for accumulating effective reps. The only consideration is that someone might not be needing for volume (reps) to grow, it could be needing more force production. Which you theoretically get from “grinders”. Assuming form is standardized
@@HypertrophyCoach Grinders and Negatives beyond failure will draw from your performance on the rest of your workout. Not enough effort and force production in effective 'money reps'? Would rather keep Effort high and stay on this side of failure.Effectively knock on failures door, again and again and again.....
Same thing. Just a force vs volume discussion. I’ve found people that benefit from one or the other
Basically don’t focus on 5% of the equation if you haven’t already gotten down the first 95% haha. Normal Training (3-1 reps from failure), good form /standardized form, and recovery is that 95% 😂
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That makes sense, if you enjoy lifting and its the way of life you should really pay attention to your body. Which awhile I thought to myself what if I do perfect form and good weight I can control, with negatives that is a load. Take the 100 rep challenge like really people out here throwing there body around not worried about form and just the number. I think we need a video doing perfect form with negatives and make that a challenge. I bet everyone's mind would be surprised.
I have always trained to failure on every set. My thinking was for the body to adapt to not being strong enough, I need to hit failure. Plus, I am a harder gainer. Cats have told me to not do that. So, I try to hit failure on the last set and even drop weight to push more reps out. People say muscle shock is not a thing. Maybe not, but it keeps me more interested in training and I think it helps. I do what I feel works for me.
ive been watching your videos JOE , thank you for the information , and yes i do see and listen all and has made a significant difference on my training , also a fan of the "supercrazydestructiveshit setup term" meaning something nasty as f**k for finishing a workout
Great video. Thank you
Can you make a video on training natural vs enhanced. Or even if you have different body types.
I’m an ecotomorph, and idk if I should not training differently.
You put out great info. Please consider scripting your videos 😊 thanks
Awesome info! I’ve learned so much from your channel and it’s has been very helpful for me. Thank you! Joe… I work out 6-7 days x week, resting 8 hrs x day. The last 2-3 months I’ve been working on lower body a day(quads), next day upper, lower the next(hams/glutes) etc. and it’s been working great. I’ve been thinking on adding at least 2-3 days of twice x day training because I feel my body asking for it. My question is… How would you suggest I could set my workouts for those twice x training days? (My doubts comes from understanding how important rest time is)
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Failure is the only way I know when I'm done :)
Training till failure is like wiping your ass after it's already been cleaned. There's no point
Train past failure
Coach, do you know if there’s any benefits of a arm day contrary to Doing arms separately such as Back and Bis and or Chest and Tris?
the benefit is you can focus on it more since you're fresh at the start of the session, so if they are lagging it's a great option
@@MeleDrummer thanks, that makes sense.. but I wanted to know if there was a scientific aspect of training arms as a whole compared to just Bis one day and tris the other,
@@3koolboy You'll get a bigger pump if you do them together, but I'm not sure if that is an advantage. Can't think of any more other than that. Cheers!
@@MeleDrummer Preciate it man, Thanks
Does it make sense that unexperienced lifters find it easier to go to failurr than gaugin how many reps in reserve they have, thats why they do it?
Yes. And there’s nothing inherently wrong with that either. Plenty of people adopt training to failure earlier in their career’s and make great progress that way
Please add some caption / subtitle on your videos 🙏
Should we train to failure or not.
What about dorian yates principles?
I am 16 years old and train (biceps/triceps with dumbells) in home. I rest 2days of week. How often I should train to failure???every day of training??? Every set??
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One channel I just watched said more than 13 sets per body part per week is maximum. Do much more than that it's over training
What is 'past-failure', could you define? Thanks!
what parameters do you understand that you have recovering?
If you could put a percentage on how much a split matters what would that number be? Like a PPL would be X percent better than a bro split. Like everyone preaches it is so much better, but you say it is something we shouldnt worry about as much.
2%
how do you stop knees from caving in while doing squats? every time i start to get close to failure i get knee valgus on the way up
Knees caving in is a sign of underdeveloped/weak adductors.
Stop when form breaks. Work on get stronger within those parameters
Check/experiment with foot placement too
Not going to failure is like having sex and stopping right before climax ;).
I love how you shamelessly trash dumbbell lateral raises 😄
I train to exhaustion more than failure
This is an interesting concept because you can fail on an exercise and not being exhausted and vice versa. It really depends on the exercise.
Is it just me or does he say a lot but doesn't say much?
It’s just you