Why are you so hung up on everyone's race "ethnically diverse this and ethnically diverse that" it's space not Iceland. Racialist shithead. Should be an all white cast then? What's your point?
16 years ago the notion of a Star Wars Tv show with Grand Admiral Thrawn and Nightsisters would have made me super excited. These days I just do not care and have no desire to see what they do with it.
That's because 16 years ago you assumed that the original Star Wars stories would at the very least still be a part of the foundation of the Star Wars franchise even if the franchise itself moved past it. Now they've shat on every plotline, character, story arc, and morality tale they used to create the foundation of the Star Wars franchise. It's like ordering a great steak, and enjoying it so much you decide to order mashed potatoes and a good wine believing this can only make the dinner better. But then the waitress comes out with your side and wine and pushes the plate with your steak off the table and as it flops onto the dirty floor they say, "Here have some mashed potatoes and wine. This is what you really wanted right"?
The gulfs of silence between EVERY line of dialogue were insufferable. The re-cap at the beginning of episode 2 was a better version of episode 1 than the actual show
"Do the thing you were doing 30 seconds ago" DUN. DUN. DUNN. DUNN DUUNN. DUUNN. D̸̙̀U̴̩̇Ụ̵͒Ú̵̗N̸̬͂Ñ̶̲N̶̜͛.̷͚̈ ̵͙́D̷̤̄U̵̜̔Ư̷̡Ù̶͚N̴̦͝N̶͇͗N̶̩̿.̸̤̄ *credits* (episode 3)
Why are you so hung up on everyone's race "ethnically diverse this and ethnically diverse that" it's space not Iceland. Racialist shithead. Should be an all white cast then? What's your point?
The recent winner of best joke at the Edinburgh fringe was the bafflingly inept "I used to go out with a zookeeper, but he turned out to be a cheetah" which fails as a double-meaning vernacular play because a zookeeper can cheat on you, but cannot be a big cat. "Ahsoka is full of arse shots" on the other hand, I believe works because we see a lot of bottom and also because it was directed by Dave Filoni
I can't believe how lifeless this production feels. None of the characters have any charisma. Even the pink-haired one, who is supposed to have a sassy personality just fell so flat for me. Also you are spot on with how sterile Star Wars is. I don't need long winded romantic drama, but it really seems like most of the characters in this universe has never even considered getting laid.
Asohka overacts being the stoic Jedi, Sabine overacts being a rebellious teen (even though she’s supposed to be 30), her “house” is at the end of a freeway that probably cost a billion credits, and who’s only purpose is to take her to her “house”, a tower, and The General seems way too young to be so, plus instead of just marching in like a General and saying “give me access to all the records”, the guy has to stall just so she can girl boss in a snarky way “I’m a General, I’m so awesome and empowered”.
@@aldunlop4622 The show was ok but it WAS too slow moving. As for that 'freeway', wasn't it on the 'Rebels' TV show? It was kind of a standard feature on Lothal. They must have fought a slew of battles on that roadway.
They really can't stop wanting to stab people through the gut in Disney Star Wars. That's one of the things I used to like about Star Wars is the duels, injuries were usually either lethal or permanently crippling.
I wonder why when someone stabs another with a lightsaber they take it out the same way it went in. If you get stabbed and you fell the body will just slice thru the lightsaber, so if you stab somebody just take it out with an upward motion, slice vertically and nobody will survive that.
It’s disney, no one ever truly dies… also, there are no more decapitations for sone reason. Jango Fett got one, why couldn’t Reeva get it? And yes, stabbing all the things seems a bit strange, it is what you do with a steel sword
Heaven forbid while in a Bacta tank, Sabine (mostly naked--showing ass) has a memory or dream of her relationship with Ezra to flesh out the backstory or further the context of the series with Thrawn, since most people haven't watched Rebels. Exposition, but in an entertaining way (with ass). And this map is apparently another lost Jedi prophecy? What else could it be if it's buried and hidden away in a ruined ancient city. It might have been more interesting that Ahsoka picks up the info on Thrawn in some seedy location and is confronted by baddies. The viewer could get a glimpse into her character through dialogue and juxapose her lightsaber skills with the scene beforehand with the other Not-Jedi.
I think the most dissapointing thing about this show is the characterization. Sabine is simply not the Sabine from Rebels. She was full of attitude, headstrong and independent, but the show portrays her as too much of those traits without any of her more reserved and fun-loving traits to balance them out. Ahsoka is also portrayed as far too aloof and as an untouchable wise guru with little sympathy or warmth (traits that made her stand out throughout her time in the animated shows she appeared in and without, make her feel hollow and a sham of what once was... much like Luke in the sequels). Finally, the whole plot about Thrawn and a map leading to him (if we are to go off of the ending of Rebels) is total and absolute bologna. Ezra fired himself and Thrawn deep into what can only be assumed to be uncharted space, so an ancient map able to track him down is absurd. I am thoroughly disappointed that another group of beloved characters are going to be washed down to basic and minimalist character traits convenient for plot.
Couldn't disagree more, considering that the "thing" Ahsoka and Sabine had got resolved at the end of the 2nd episode. You say that Sabine was headstrong and independent but didn't show any sympathy or warmth, again with 6 episodes left that's just nitpicking and don't letting character development actually do their thing. Wouldn't make sense for Ahsoka to become a different person after losing everyone, specially losing Anakin twice and finally seeing him as Vader. Then knowing that Kanan is dead and losing Ezra too? Obi Wan and Yoda also went to exile after they failed their mission in Episode 3. And what you say about the plot of Thrawn not making sense is so ignorant. Like, the star wars universe has like 20,000 years so it's not absurd that there is some type of knowledge or technology that can guide you to another galaxy that may have been discovered by a totally unknown species from the past.
@josedavidcastillo9241 So I see your points, and I respect them. However, I disagree. Those two episodes were almost a feature-length film long; plenty of time to show us more depth with each character. Ahsoka, despite her loss, was still warm and inviting in Rebels. It sounds callous, but one more loss (technically two with the tension between Sabine and herself) likely wouldn't have rendered her so quiet and standoffish. Finally, you call me ignorant, but don't even seem to understand what I said. It's NOT absurd that there could be a map to unknown space. Plenty of books and other media took place from the Unknown Regions. Heck, Thrawn is a part of the Chiss who hail from the unknown regions. The issue is that the characters are so confident that this map will take them to Thrawn and Ezra, who were launched into hyperspace by animals without direction or purpose besides getting him away from all known civilization. It's very unlikely a map were made (especially one prior to their launch) that could track either down like the nightsister so confidently believes.
@@josedavidcastillo9241 so you make your points and then proceed to call the person you disagree with ignorant. With that insult alone you lost the argument. Try being a little more mature in the future and perhaps your points will garner more weight than trying to get your message across being smug and insulting.
Find it funny that general Blue pretty much looks like the Smurf version of Elon Musk. Somehow I could see them in the near future making a story about Palpatine having another grandson or something and it looks like a young Donald Trump.
I tend to see traces of Side-Character syndrome - i.e. What is Ahsoka actually doing to get paid. What's her role/job as a non-Jedi Jedi. Hanging out with Droids? What is Ahsoka employed to do. Does she work for the General... ? Is this tied into Mandalorian S3 ? Aren't the Moff's still around ? etc. i.e. Does the audience actually know who Ahsoka is, or what she's doing looking for Golden Snitches that resemble Rubix Cubes. As for the Puzzle that needs an "Artist" and not a "genius" girl boss ... IDK. The core issues IMO... 1/ People expect this to be Mandalorian Quality, because Ahsoka showed up. Unfortunately, this isn't the Ahsoka show. It's Rebels Season 5 and they Netflix'd the animation into Live-Action. Both of which is a mistake - to Live-Action Adapt an animation, and to Netflix the concept by dragging a Kids Show, into an Adult conversation/era. While it could probably manage under a competent TV writer for Saga/Episodic TV, it's unlikely to adapt properly to the tone/pacing changes which has a different kind of story structure to animation or kids movies. Especially animated fights to Live-Action combat is a whole different flow and timing, as are 'villain monologues' and cinematic angles. Live action can't replicate comic / panel shots easily. 2/ The audience don't know who Ezra/Sabine/Hera/Zeb/Chopper are, because Rebels is an entirely different audience to Mando or Disney+ audience. The audience don't know, and don't care. Nor should they. If they had opened the show up with Ezra and Thrawn going down fighting, that would raise stakes and awareness of the drama/tension and relationships. But... as you noticed, relationships can't exist in Disney, romance between real people is forbidden, while romance between droids, species and same-sex people is applauded. 3/ There's signs that they didn't know how to make the series work, because of the Act 1 setup being very flimsy. In Mando, this is solved by the episodes being individually written/directed/filmed. In Ahsoka ... this appears like they had a Rebels Movie script.. and thought they could make it into a Disney+ show instead. Which then begs the question, what's Ahsoka supposed to do after Ezra/Thrawn are found. There are signs Ahsoka might be put on the Bench once Ezra turns up, either because of distance, or a 'superweapon' that has to be destroyed or it will affect the Franchise. And we can't afford to bring in Virtual Luke Skywalker or Mando / Bo-Katan / Moff Breaking Bad, the budget won't stretch that far to hire another A list actor. As for the quirky barren spire city / City of Oz like location, The 'worlds largest highway' I seem to recall is because Lothal is a "farming planet". i.e. Space Ohio/Lousiana. It turns out to be a protected world by the Jedi, which is the downfall of the planet when the Empire strip-mines the planet for the Death Star / Khyber-Crystal mining (the plot of Rogue One). And it's isolation also means they can set up an Imperial fleet outpost. The "tower' is one of hundreds of drone relay communications towers spoked around the planet to herd and farm the now-dead cattle, and due to the strip-mining for Khyber and other minerals, the forests/mountains are basically gone, and what's left is open fields of nothing.
That's what was missing from the OT and PT... a scene of The Emperor signing and handing Darth Vader his paycheck. Followed by Vader making a trip to the bank, making small talk with the bank employees, etc.
Watching everyone absolutely ripping this piece of shit show to shreds is way more fun than actually watching it 😂 The funniest thing is that the 50 something dudes with white beards are the best part of this show. At least they are acting, as opposed to the main character who is possibly the most boring person ever 😂😂😂
I think we all assumed Assoka would be ass. Now, we can be assured in that assumption. Unless there is massive change with each passing epissode, I, alass, cannot give my assent. Hard pass.
No one ever going to speak how ridiculous the Ahsoka design is? Born with tribal markings and a horned squid on her head. 😂😂😂 How high were George and Filoni when they approved it??? 😂😂😂
Now this is called nitpicking on bullshit. George approved Ahsoka's creation, and now you a random person is going to say it's trash after the HUGE success the character had in Clone Wars??? Just stfu already please XD
We have recently seen the end of a golden age of comedy, which began in 1989 with The Simpsons and Seinfeld, and continued for the following 20 or so years with too many series, films and comics to name. Echo, you are a torch providing solace and hope in the glum, dismal aftermath.
Did anyone else pick up on the blatant Star Trek rip offs.. The bridge layout on the ship. The protocol and layout on said ship. Sabine being the rebel running from the authorities because she’s rebellious and cool like a scene from Star Trek 2009 and Ezras uniform that looks like it was from the Wrath of Khan? Were those supposed to be Easter eggs? If so they were just a terrible rip off and I’m surprised I’ve heard no mention of it
I watched most of Rebels, and thought it was decently done with characters. My issue was that this took place maybe 10 years? (timeslines are fuzzy) from the events of Rebels and yet, all of the characters not only went through the Galactic war, but seem frozen in time to who they were before it. Sabine still looks (physically, usung your ass shots as evidence) and acts like a moody teenager, but wouldn't she be in her late 20s now? Hera had a KID and also always had a more maternal vibe from which she drew her strength. Eith Ahsoka, I felt like they were going for "detached wise Jedi vibe" but something felt weird. I wanted to still see her unconventional way of using the Force come out in her fighting, but the scenes were so bland. When I saw that "other galaxy" pop up, I had flashbacks to the MCU and was like, "Please, please don't make this into a multiverse type of situation." Part of Star Wars is that the galaxy is well... practically infinite. We don't need another one with "different rules and a different reality."
Well... Would you have told me 20 years ago that there would be a SW series with Thrawn in it i would gabe been excited. Now I will get the hell outta dodge in order to avoid seeing how the Grand Admiral is turned into a clown.
@@josedavidcastillo9241 indeed it is. But I would argue that this loss dates back to the decanonizing of the EU. And I just read your other comment on not having watched clone wars. I get where you are coming from. My take on it is that I grew up on the first trilogy the books and the games. I tried clone wars but it felt to ke like a show for kids. The animation pushed me into the uncanny valley and the story telling reminded me of other kids cartoons and I gave up on it. And that is not a dig against you. It's probably that you belong to a different generation of fans. I don't like where SW ended up and the latest content entries by D just pushed it farther away from my experience of the franchise. And that sucks. If you still like it it's a big W for you :)
7:55 *•A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away:* _Small hats, big problems._ *•Right now in the galaxy we're in:* _Small hats, big problems._ Seems accurate, to be honest.
All I remembered doing during the first two episodes is screaming at the screen "Where is Thrawn! No, I don't care about any of these hoes! Just show me Thrawn, dammit!"
LOL. I really did laugh out loud. As a child sitting in a Westwood CA movie theater in 1977 I never thought I would see the shame of the “Disneyfication” of what used to be Star Wars.
This show just reaffirms the truth that great casting in front of the camera only gets one so far and can do only so much to compensate for poor selection on the other side of the camera.
honestly. It wasn't bad, it wasn't good. It was thoroughly mediocre, playing more as a bit of fan service for someone heavily akin to SW Rebels. Honestly, the actress of Ahsoka, Dawson, just felt bland. Barely resembling Ahsoka's in both personality and body language.
To me the idea that they would self-destroy doesn't make sense. They want the map, right? Okay, so why self-destroy when defeated if this risks destroying the map too. If Ahsoka isn't quick enough to escape the vapor wave the map gets fried. Dumb.
All my time watching Disney+ has been replaced with Echo, and Critical Drinker reacting to Disney+ Honestly I’m saving a lot of time and disappointment. 🤷🏻♂️
2:55 Thank you, this was my biggest problem in the show Ahsoka dosen't feel like Ahsoka, like I know she's "matured as a jedi" but that dosen't mean you have to remove all of her personality and make her as engaging and fun as cardboard
As expected, they ruined Sabine. She escapes from an important ceremony without warning and embarassing everyone, she ignores direct orders to return, endangers the pilots, she steals an artifact of national importance because, you see, she thinks better at home, she almost detonates a bomb next to herself, Ahsoka and the only a clue to Thrawn (thankfully the droid saved everyone), she runs to fight on the roof with an unknown enemy and takes only a lightsaber with her, but not Mandalorian armor, she knows how to fight with lightsabers no worse than a Padawan despite her low sensitivity to the Force (plus a bunch of her abilities of the Rebels), she survives being stabbed with a lightsaber like a teapot burn...Like Ahsoka, she became a Mary Sue. Again this idiotic start with a map from The Force Awakens... Who the fuck, how and why made a map to Thrawn's location? Thrawn is definitely not going to move anywhere in the coming years so that this map does not become useless? Who hid it in the ancient tomb of the Nightsisters? At first I thought it was Morgan, but in the second series, even she does not know where Thrawn is...
God damn go write an essay for school not here 🤣 y'all die hard star wars fans are crazy I've been a star wars fan from a kid and yes the sequel trilogy suck but this series is GOOD (so far) it's the best thing from Disney Star wars we will probably ever get can y'all just appreciate something for once?
Have you ever watched Star wars rebels? You are describing all of sabines personality she's arrogant and impulsive and clearly you didn't even watch the ahsoka show as she didn't fing put on her armor cause she gave up that life and do you know how long it would be to put on that heavy armor
May not have been a map to thrawn. Maybe a map that locates the Purrgil? Or maybe some Dathomir Nightsister had a vision and had to place the map there so future events would happen.
I hear ya, but even that's debatable. Andor is quite intriguing with far more character development -- and infinitely better dialogue/pacing. Mandalorian S1, followed closely by S2, remains the best SW show to date. They all need to follow Favreau's ideas/direction.
@@ECSOrder66 loved Andor but same problem too much filler. There was about 2 hours worth of good solid content that was stretched into a series. Same with obiwan and boba fett too
I love the "ass" rants...well done, sir, well done! The only critique I didn't care for is the bit about the lack of romance. Frankly, corporate execs try to shoehorn too much romance in where it doesn't belong - my director's cut of the film Major League would just be the film as it is, minus the tedious, flat, and unnecessary romance subplot in a work that is otherwise nonstop humor in excellent use. Star Wars benefits from a brush of romance here or there, but it's refreshing that not every age-peer pairing of a male and a female (which these days now can be any age-peer pairing of any sort) sooner or later turns to romance. The series that this is essentially a sequel to (Rebels) had a fitting and realistic romance between the Hera character and one other one (now dead, because pre-Disney SW could actually do that), and that was about right.
5:14 - This is another example of how lacking in imagination these people are. Rather than coming up with a proper helmet (so she can breathe without any discomfort caused by air blasting her nostrils)... they just took a rebel pilot helmet and slightly altered that...
Also... dunno about anyone else, but I get irked how characters from modern SW animation are making it into live action but when it comes to ANY characters from Droids show from the 80's.. dead silence. Not that I'd want Disney to wreck that, but... you, for example, have Mungo Baobab, a character created by Ben Burtt who's practically Indiana Jones of Star Wars. It's hard to imagine he wouldn't be appealing... but nope... modern animation matters only...
agree 100 percent on the representation and production of said ass. You are award worthy. ...as an old school Star Wars fan...love your takes on the new Disney ish.. No idea why I'm just finding this content. Passing it along. Have to love the algos.
If the characters can't express passion or commitment, they could at least have the good grace to lose a limb. That's when you know they're good guys prepared to go the distance. One problem is not that the show doesn't recap CW/Rebels, the characters are devoid of past, emotion or motivation. And the map is so lame. Better to have Morgan do magic, and Ahsoka commune with Ezra through the Force, and have a race to the destination point. Then you would have a sense of their distinct powers, in this timeframe, and something we can all get behind - a competitive quest. The map also breaks canon in half a dozen ways and sets up narrative confusion, especially re the Night Sisters.
my god this intro literally made me realize: this elusive feeling i had watching ahsoka was real after all -- this is a SW p0rn parody without any steamy scenes.
That may be the worst, most off-putting singing and lyrics I've ever heard. Good job!
Why are you so hung up on everyone's race "ethnically diverse this and ethnically diverse that" it's space not Iceland. Racialist shithead. Should be an all white cast then? What's your point?
Compared to what I've heard, this is a masterpiece!
16 years ago the notion of a Star Wars Tv show with Grand Admiral Thrawn and Nightsisters would have made me super excited.
These days I just do not care and have no desire to see what they do with it.
Pretty much. Imagine if it happened back 2007 or 2008 back when Star Wars was still feasible
No one care you cry baby 😭 😂
That's because 16 years ago you assumed that the original Star Wars stories would at the very least still be a part of the foundation of the Star Wars franchise even if the franchise itself moved past it. Now they've shat on every plotline, character, story arc, and morality tale they used to create the foundation of the Star Wars franchise.
It's like ordering a great steak, and enjoying it so much you decide to order mashed potatoes and a good wine believing this can only make the dinner better. But then the waitress comes out with your side and wine and pushes the plate with your steak off the table and as it flops onto the dirty floor they say, "Here have some mashed potatoes and wine. This is what you really wanted right"?
@@Shifft-This 👍👍👍
@@Shifft-This Accurate and perfect
The gulfs of silence between EVERY line of dialogue were insufferable. The re-cap at the beginning of episode 2 was a better version of episode 1 than the actual show
Gods honest truth
"Do the thing you were doing 30 seconds ago"
DUN. DUN.
DUNN. DUNN
DUUNN. DUUNN.
D̸̙̀U̴̩̇Ụ̵͒Ú̵̗N̸̬͂Ñ̶̲N̶̜͛.̷͚̈ ̵͙́D̷̤̄U̵̜̔Ư̷̡Ù̶͚N̴̦͝N̶͇͗N̶̩̿.̸̤̄
*credits*
(episode 3)
True story, everything you said.
Couldn't wait for Ahsoka to come out. Not because of the show, but because of the videos I knew it would spawn.
Basic hate nerd spotted.
Yes
Ismo Chamberlain
Auralnauts 'larry' is the only reason I need another season of Kenobi.
Why are you so hung up on everyone's race "ethnically diverse this and ethnically diverse that" it's space not Iceland. Racialist shithead. Should be an all white cast then? What's your point?
“Be careful not to choke on your Ass-pirations, Disney”
The recent winner of best joke at the Edinburgh fringe was the bafflingly inept "I used to go out with a zookeeper, but he turned out to be a cheetah" which fails as a double-meaning vernacular play because a zookeeper can cheat on you, but cannot be a big cat.
"Ahsoka is full of arse shots" on the other hand, I believe works because we see a lot of bottom and also because it was directed by Dave Filoni
Fuck Scotland.
No, wait... nuke it out of existence!!
Betting a woman wrote that "barely word association"
How to give up drinking.
Take a shot everytime a woman on the show display's emotions.
I can't believe how lifeless this production feels. None of the characters have any charisma. Even the pink-haired one, who is supposed to have a sassy personality just fell so flat for me. Also you are spot on with how sterile Star Wars is. I don't need long winded romantic drama, but it really seems like most of the characters in this universe has never even considered getting laid.
Nailed it. It’s so lifeless
Asohka overacts being the stoic Jedi, Sabine overacts being a rebellious teen (even though she’s supposed to be 30), her “house” is at the end of a freeway that probably cost a billion credits, and who’s only purpose is to take her to her “house”, a tower, and The General seems way too young to be so, plus instead of just marching in like a General and saying “give me access to all the records”, the guy has to stall just so she can girl boss in a snarky way “I’m a General, I’m so awesome and empowered”.
They got busy in Andor, this show is for little girls.
@@aldunlop4622 The show was ok but it WAS too slow moving. As for that 'freeway', wasn't it on the 'Rebels' TV show? It was kind of a standard feature on Lothal. They must have fought a slew of battles on that roadway.
it's how the rebels first met Ezra actually. They had a chase on that freeway@@nickmitsialis
My God. I almost drowned in my coffee, laughing hysterically, at your parody song. I love it! 🤣
They really can't stop wanting to stab people through the gut in Disney Star Wars. That's one of the things I used to like about Star Wars is the duels, injuries were usually either lethal or permanently crippling.
Don’t forget about the character who evokes the most empathy here- that Lothal Cat! It’s like Gizmo and a spicy calico had a baby. ❤
dave is obsessed with a character who was a afterthought in the whole saga.
Oh God, his fans are no better. 😂
I wonder why when someone stabs another with a lightsaber they take it out the same way it went in. If you get stabbed and you fell the body will just slice thru the lightsaber, so if you stab somebody just take it out with an upward motion, slice vertically and nobody will survive that.
It’s disney, no one ever truly dies… also, there are no more decapitations for sone reason. Jango Fett got one, why couldn’t Reeva get it? And yes, stabbing all the things seems a bit strange, it is what you do with a steel sword
"Discovers a golden snitch ..."! 😂 Your delivery is spot on, as always--
Reaper called that golden ball a Snitch from Harry Potter too I can't unsee it now 🤣🤣
OMG that remix of 'when you wish upon a star' had me on the floor laughing! 🤣
Well done EC! 💯
The opening song is aces, brother. 11/10 - would laugh my ass off again.
Heaven forbid while in a Bacta tank, Sabine (mostly naked--showing ass) has a memory or dream of her relationship with Ezra to flesh out the backstory or further the context of the series with Thrawn, since most people haven't watched Rebels. Exposition, but in an entertaining way (with ass).
And this map is apparently another lost Jedi prophecy? What else could it be if it's buried and hidden away in a ruined ancient city. It might have been more interesting that Ahsoka picks up the info on Thrawn in some seedy location and is confronted by baddies. The viewer could get a glimpse into her character through dialogue and juxapose her lightsaber skills with the scene beforehand with the other Not-Jedi.
I think the most dissapointing thing about this show is the characterization. Sabine is simply not the Sabine from Rebels. She was full of attitude, headstrong and independent, but the show portrays her as too much of those traits without any of her more reserved and fun-loving traits to balance them out. Ahsoka is also portrayed as far too aloof and as an untouchable wise guru with little sympathy or warmth (traits that made her stand out throughout her time in the animated shows she appeared in and without, make her feel hollow and a sham of what once was... much like Luke in the sequels). Finally, the whole plot about Thrawn and a map leading to him (if we are to go off of the ending of Rebels) is total and absolute bologna. Ezra fired himself and Thrawn deep into what can only be assumed to be uncharted space, so an ancient map able to track him down is absurd.
I am thoroughly disappointed that another group of beloved characters are going to be washed down to basic and minimalist character traits convenient for plot.
Couldn't disagree more, considering that the "thing" Ahsoka and Sabine had got resolved at the end of the 2nd episode. You say that Sabine was headstrong and independent but didn't show any sympathy or warmth, again with 6 episodes left that's just nitpicking and don't letting character development actually do their thing.
Wouldn't make sense for Ahsoka to become a different person after losing everyone, specially losing Anakin twice and finally seeing him as Vader. Then knowing that Kanan is dead and losing Ezra too? Obi Wan and Yoda also went to exile after they failed their mission in Episode 3.
And what you say about the plot of Thrawn not making sense is so ignorant. Like, the star wars universe has like 20,000 years so it's not absurd that there is some type of knowledge or technology that can guide you to another galaxy that may have been discovered by a totally unknown species from the past.
@josedavidcastillo9241 So I see your points, and I respect them. However, I disagree. Those two episodes were almost a feature-length film long; plenty of time to show us more depth with each character.
Ahsoka, despite her loss, was still warm and inviting in Rebels. It sounds callous, but one more loss (technically two with the tension between Sabine and herself) likely wouldn't have rendered her so quiet and standoffish.
Finally, you call me ignorant, but don't even seem to understand what I said. It's NOT absurd that there could be a map to unknown space. Plenty of books and other media took place from the Unknown Regions. Heck, Thrawn is a part of the Chiss who hail from the unknown regions. The issue is that the characters are so confident that this map will take them to Thrawn and Ezra, who were launched into hyperspace by animals without direction or purpose besides getting him away from all known civilization. It's very unlikely a map were made (especially one prior to their launch) that could track either down like the nightsister so confidently believes.
@@josedavidcastillo9241 so you make your points and then proceed to call the person you disagree with ignorant. With that insult alone you lost the argument. Try being a little more mature in the future and perhaps your points will garner more weight than trying to get your message across being smug and insulting.
One might go so far as to call this show Assoka.
Sooo true. It’s terrible and mediocre
Ass-soaker?
@@chasehedges6775 Those two are mutually exclusive. Either it's only mediocre, or already terrible.
I sense the porn parody will take that name
says the one that barely knows anything about star wars and never saw clone wars or rebels... like everyone in this comment section@@chasehedges6775
Find it funny that general Blue pretty much looks like the Smurf version of Elon Musk. Somehow I could see them in the near future making a story about Palpatine having another grandson or something and it looks like a young Donald Trump.
If staring at paint dry was a show, Disney nailed it.
So glad to finally have a review call out a lot of the issues instead of the ooogling every other review has for this show.
Animation does not translate to live action for a 1 to 1. I've seen cosplay costumes that look better than what's in this show.
I tend to see traces of Side-Character syndrome - i.e. What is Ahsoka actually doing to get paid. What's her role/job as a non-Jedi Jedi. Hanging out with Droids? What is Ahsoka employed to do. Does she work for the General... ? Is this tied into Mandalorian S3 ? Aren't the Moff's still around ? etc.
i.e. Does the audience actually know who Ahsoka is, or what she's doing looking for Golden Snitches that resemble Rubix Cubes. As for the Puzzle that needs an "Artist" and not a "genius" girl boss ... IDK. The core issues IMO...
1/ People expect this to be Mandalorian Quality, because Ahsoka showed up. Unfortunately, this isn't the Ahsoka show. It's Rebels Season 5 and they Netflix'd the animation into Live-Action.
Both of which is a mistake - to Live-Action Adapt an animation, and to Netflix the concept by dragging a Kids Show, into an Adult conversation/era. While it could probably manage under a competent TV writer for Saga/Episodic TV, it's unlikely to adapt properly to the tone/pacing changes which has a different kind of story structure to animation or kids movies.
Especially animated fights to Live-Action combat is a whole different flow and timing, as are 'villain monologues' and cinematic angles. Live action can't replicate comic / panel shots easily.
2/ The audience don't know who Ezra/Sabine/Hera/Zeb/Chopper are, because Rebels is an entirely different audience to Mando or Disney+ audience.
The audience don't know, and don't care. Nor should they. If they had opened the show up with Ezra and Thrawn going down fighting, that would raise stakes and awareness of the drama/tension and relationships. But... as you noticed, relationships can't exist in Disney, romance between real people is forbidden, while romance between droids, species and same-sex people is applauded.
3/ There's signs that they didn't know how to make the series work, because of the Act 1 setup being very flimsy. In Mando, this is solved by the episodes being individually written/directed/filmed. In Ahsoka ... this appears like they had a Rebels Movie script.. and thought they could make it into a Disney+ show instead. Which then begs the question, what's Ahsoka supposed to do after Ezra/Thrawn are found. There are signs Ahsoka might be put on the Bench once Ezra turns up, either because of distance, or a 'superweapon' that has to be destroyed or it will affect the Franchise.
And we can't afford to bring in Virtual Luke Skywalker or Mando / Bo-Katan / Moff Breaking Bad, the budget won't stretch that far to hire another A list actor.
As for the quirky barren spire city / City of Oz like location, The 'worlds largest highway' I seem to recall is because Lothal is a "farming planet".
i.e. Space Ohio/Lousiana.
It turns out to be a protected world by the Jedi, which is the downfall of the planet when the Empire strip-mines the planet for the Death Star / Khyber-Crystal mining (the plot of Rogue One). And it's isolation also means they can set up an Imperial fleet outpost. The "tower' is one of hundreds of drone relay communications towers spoked around the planet to herd and farm the now-dead cattle, and due to the strip-mining for Khyber and other minerals, the forests/mountains are basically gone, and what's left is open fields of nothing.
Don’t think about it…. Just consume product, and get excited for next product.
That's what was missing from the OT and PT... a scene of The Emperor signing and handing Darth Vader his paycheck. Followed by Vader making a trip to the bank, making small talk with the bank employees, etc.
Watching everyone absolutely ripping this piece of shit show to shreds is way more fun than actually watching it 😂 The funniest thing is that the 50 something dudes with white beards are the best part of this show. At least they are acting, as opposed to the main character who is possibly the most boring person ever 😂😂😂
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I have to say this is one of the best reviews I've seen. Very well done and not half arsed. Love it. More please. Uh reviews I mean....not arse.😂
Although we won't say no to more arse either 😄
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LOOOOOOL!!!
Song was hilarious and you have more emotion in your voice than the actors in this show
Incredible opening. Just what I needed this Friday morning.
3:15 that's a standard boule ball! I played with this exact 'high value jedi artifact' as a kid.
I can't stop laughing at that intro, my God I about pissed myself 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
this more entertaining than the actual show ... i mean the bar is low, but still 💀
I think we all assumed Assoka would be ass. Now, we can be assured in that assumption. Unless there is massive change with each passing epissode, I, alass, cannot give my assent. Hard pass.
Hilarious! Loved the opening parody. Sabine needs to "back that arse up." 😂
No one ever going to speak how ridiculous the Ahsoka design is? Born with tribal markings and a horned squid on her head. 😂😂😂 How high were George and Filoni when they approved it??? 😂😂😂
After the prequels, George didn't care anymore.
Now this is called nitpicking on bullshit. George approved Ahsoka's creation, and now you a random person is going to say it's trash after the HUGE success the character had in Clone Wars??? Just stfu already please XD
Ahsoka is a togruta, who existed in the prequels since episode 1, it's not a new character design
Arse, and you shall receive.
RIP Ray Stevenson. Your talented ass deserved a better a show than this one.
Yeah, RIP to him. What a legend
Ray Stevenson deserved better
That intro song was a religious experience.
The only thing I liked was the theme tune and that little cat creature.
We have recently seen the end of a golden age of comedy, which began in 1989 with The Simpsons and Seinfeld, and continued for the following 20 or so years with too many series, films and comics to name. Echo, you are a torch providing solace and hope in the glum, dismal aftermath.
Cue Nick Cage: "Not the ASSSSSSSSSSSSSS".
The script in this annihilatingly Disney roast is 100 percent hilarious! 🤣👍
Asstute summary as usual.
Beginning was pure gold, bravo
Did anyone else pick up on the blatant Star Trek rip offs..
The bridge layout on the ship.
The protocol and layout on said ship.
Sabine being the rebel running from the authorities because she’s rebellious and cool like a scene from Star Trek 2009 and Ezras uniform that looks like it was from the Wrath of Khan?
Were those supposed to be Easter eggs?
If so they were just a terrible rip off and I’m surprised I’ve heard no mention of it
Don't worry, everyone. Sabine's not like other gurls, you see. It's gonna be great.
I watched most of Rebels, and thought it was decently done with characters. My issue was that this took place maybe 10 years? (timeslines are fuzzy) from the events of Rebels and yet, all of the characters not only went through the Galactic war, but seem frozen in time to who they were before it. Sabine still looks (physically, usung your ass shots as evidence) and acts like a moody teenager, but wouldn't she be in her late 20s now? Hera had a KID and also always had a more maternal vibe from which she drew her strength. Eith Ahsoka, I felt like they were going for "detached wise Jedi vibe" but something felt weird. I wanted to still see her unconventional way of using the Force come out in her fighting, but the scenes were so bland.
When I saw that "other galaxy" pop up, I had flashbacks to the MCU and was like, "Please, please don't make this into a multiverse type of situation." Part of Star Wars is that the galaxy is well... practically infinite. We don't need another one with "different rules and a different reality."
They even managed to do Drake from ALIENS dirty!
Well... Would you have told me 20 years ago that there would be a SW series with Thrawn in it i would gabe been excited. Now I will get the hell outta dodge in order to avoid seeing how the Grand Admiral is turned into a clown.
Big L for you.
@@josedavidcastillo9241 indeed it is. But I would argue that this loss dates back to the decanonizing of the EU.
And I just read your other comment on not having watched clone wars. I get where you are coming from. My take on it is that I grew up on the first trilogy the books and the games. I tried clone wars but it felt to ke like a show for kids. The animation pushed me into the uncanny valley and the story telling reminded me of other kids cartoons and I gave up on it. And that is not a dig against you. It's probably that you belong to a different generation of fans. I don't like where SW ended up and the latest content entries by D just pushed it farther away from my experience of the franchise. And that sucks. If you still like it it's a big W for you :)
Just what are those tenticles on her head? Are they extra mammary glands?
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*•A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away:* _Small hats, big problems._
*•Right now in the galaxy we're in:* _Small hats, big problems._
Seems accurate, to be honest.
If your source of transportation is flying above ground, why is there a concrete highway?
Ep 1 seems to start just like the last ep of Rebels ended. So when was Sabine trained by Ahsoka?
You think she needs training?
All I remembered doing during the first two episodes is screaming at the screen "Where is Thrawn! No, I don't care about any of these hoes! Just show me Thrawn, dammit!"
One of the most charming, accurate and ass-iduous rearviews of a show to come out of someone's rear that has ever rear-ed its head! Well played, Sir!
LOL. I really did laugh out loud. As a child sitting in a Westwood CA movie theater in 1977 I never thought I would see the shame of the “Disneyfication” of what used to be Star Wars.
This show just reaffirms the truth that great casting in front of the camera only gets one so far and can do only so much to compensate for poor selection on the other side of the camera.
“Sabine snatches the snitch” lmfao
The writing is impressive here. I'm new to this channel and I can't wait to catch up on the library here.
Kudos for the most artful use of "ass" in any review
Love your opening 🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂
The song at the beginning is wonderful!
honestly. It wasn't bad, it wasn't good.
It was thoroughly mediocre, playing more as a bit of fan service for someone heavily akin to SW Rebels.
Honestly, the actress of Ahsoka, Dawson, just felt bland.
Barely resembling Ahsoka's in both personality and body language.
It actually felt like fan fiction with expensive CGI.
@@aldunlop4622 Exactly. It’s Fanfiction of the worst kind
Girl bosses in search for balls. No further questions.
Why didn't the androids just blow themselves up when they were under the surface with Ahsoka... ?
To me the idea that they would self-destroy doesn't make sense. They want the map, right? Okay, so why self-destroy when defeated if this risks destroying the map too. If Ahsoka isn't quick enough to escape the vapor wave the map gets fried. Dumb.
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Kind of what I was thinking. They clearly didn't care about destroying it once she got it and ran off, so what what was the point... 🤣
All my time watching Disney+ has been replaced with Echo, and Critical Drinker reacting to Disney+
Honestly I’m saving a lot of time and disappointment. 🤷🏻♂️
So much happier to have canceled my Disney+ membership and be watching the actually entertaining UA-cam videos making fun of the D+ content.
Hahahaha, EC’s introduction to this video is gold.
2:55 Thank you, this was my biggest problem in the show Ahsoka dosen't feel like Ahsoka, like I know she's "matured as a jedi" but that dosen't mean you have to remove all of her personality and make her as engaging and fun as cardboard
Spot on.
Stabbed by a light saber? Leave a 3 inch hole? No problem, just slap on a band aid and walk it off Sabine! Boss girls don't die!
As expected, they ruined Sabine. She escapes from an important ceremony without warning and embarassing everyone, she ignores direct orders to return, endangers the pilots, she steals an artifact of national importance because, you see, she thinks better at home, she almost detonates a bomb next to herself, Ahsoka and the only a clue to Thrawn (thankfully the droid saved everyone), she runs to fight on the roof with an unknown enemy and takes only a lightsaber with her, but not Mandalorian armor, she knows how to fight with lightsabers no worse than a Padawan despite her low sensitivity to the Force (plus a bunch of her abilities of the Rebels), she survives being stabbed with a lightsaber like a teapot burn...Like Ahsoka, she became a Mary Sue.
Again this idiotic start with a map from The Force Awakens... Who the fuck, how and why made a map to Thrawn's location? Thrawn is definitely not going to move anywhere in the coming years so that this map does not become useless? Who hid it in the ancient tomb of the Nightsisters? At first I thought it was Morgan, but in the second series, even she does not know where Thrawn is...
They really do love their macguffin maps, don't they?
God damn go write an essay for school not here 🤣 y'all die hard star wars fans are crazy I've been a star wars fan from a kid and yes the sequel trilogy suck but this series is GOOD (so far) it's the best thing from Disney Star wars we will probably ever get can y'all just appreciate something for once?
Have you ever watched Star wars rebels? You are describing all of sabines personality she's arrogant and impulsive and clearly you didn't even watch the ahsoka show as she didn't fing put on her armor cause she gave up that life and do you know how long it would be to put on that heavy armor
May not have been a map to thrawn. Maybe a map that locates the Purrgil? Or maybe some Dathomir Nightsister had a vision and had to place the map there so future events would happen.
And the map is not only to thrawns location dumbass it's a map of all different Galaxy's but they just pin pointed it to where Thrawn would be
They are going to totally cuck Thrawn, aren't they....
This is Modern 2020 Disney so yeah, probably
They already ruined Palpatine and Darth Vader, Luke, Leia and Han so yeah
Is the ball mcguffin the same ball that was used in The Arrival that imploded rooms?
while not perfect Ashoka is by far the best thing disney plus has produced so far. I have loved it.
I hear ya, but even that's debatable. Andor is quite intriguing with far more character development -- and infinitely better dialogue/pacing. Mandalorian S1, followed closely by S2, remains the best SW show to date. They all need to follow Favreau's ideas/direction.
Uh...
What about Andor?
@@ECSOrder66 loved Andor but same problem too much filler. There was about 2 hours worth of good solid content that was stretched into a series. Same with obiwan and boba fett too
That intro was great.
Best intro in YT history!!
They have to release the adult version where Anakin and Obi-Wan spit roast Ashoka on the daily.
Astute observations as always
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I love the "ass" rants...well done, sir, well done!
The only critique I didn't care for is the bit about the lack of romance. Frankly, corporate execs try to shoehorn too much romance in where it doesn't belong - my director's cut of the film Major League would just be the film as it is, minus the tedious, flat, and unnecessary romance subplot in a work that is otherwise nonstop humor in excellent use.
Star Wars benefits from a brush of romance here or there, but it's refreshing that not every age-peer pairing of a male and a female (which these days now can be any age-peer pairing of any sort) sooner or later turns to romance. The series that this is essentially a sequel to (Rebels) had a fitting and realistic romance between the Hera character and one other one (now dead, because pre-Disney SW could actually do that), and that was about right.
Can I ask what AI voice thingy did you use? Sounds good!
4:50 - WHY WOULD THE MURAL BE EXACTLY IN THE SHOWS ART STYLE?!
AND WHAT'S WITH THOSE AWFULLY MUNDANE LOOKING WOLVES?!
5:14 - This is another example of how lacking in imagination these people are. Rather than coming up with a proper helmet (so she can breathe without any discomfort caused by air blasting her nostrils)... they just took a rebel pilot helmet and slightly altered that...
Also... dunno about anyone else, but I get irked how characters from modern SW animation are making it into live action but when it comes to ANY characters from Droids show from the 80's.. dead silence.
Not that I'd want Disney to wreck that, but... you, for example, have Mungo Baobab, a character created by Ben Burtt who's practically Indiana Jones of Star Wars. It's hard to imagine he wouldn't be appealing... but nope... modern animation matters only...
Thanks for the great reviews Mr. Echo, you Rock. The only reason I keep the Disney Channel is to watch Moana about every other year.
8:09 Hey, at least it wasn't Watto.
Bro, they even made books for the episode 7-9.
It's a dull boring nightmare 😢
any Star Wars show should be a slam dunk, a cash cow, but these days I am not surprised at how disappointed I am by every one of them.
Apathy is probably worse than anger. I don’t think even my die hard fan dad watched this
1:27 brilliant! I liked and subscribed
At least wait until the series done so we can actually judge the show. Two episodes is nothing to show yet
agree 100 percent on the representation and production of said ass. You are award worthy. ...as an old school Star Wars fan...love your takes on the new Disney ish.. No idea why I'm just finding this content. Passing it along. Have to love the algos.
Whqat have they done to the Kurgen?
If the characters can't express passion or commitment, they could at least have the good grace to lose a limb. That's when you know they're good guys prepared to go the distance.
One problem is not that the show doesn't recap CW/Rebels, the characters are devoid of past, emotion or motivation.
And the map is so lame. Better to have Morgan do magic, and Ahsoka commune with Ezra through the Force, and have a race to the destination point. Then you would have a sense of their distinct powers, in this timeframe, and something we can all get behind - a competitive quest. The map also breaks canon in half a dozen ways and sets up narrative confusion, especially re the Night Sisters.
my god this intro literally made me realize: this elusive feeling i had watching ahsoka was real after all -- this is a SW p0rn parody without any steamy scenes.
maybe Qui Gon Jinn didnt put any point in Vitality. future jedis learned from this mistake and no one else died from a gut stab
Could there be another hero lurking in the wings who is ...... BETTER THAN EZRA?
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Is this a KingCobraJFS channel now?
TWU
I came for the Attenborough. I'm staying because of the Ahsoka. Hilarious. +1 sub here!
Hahahahaha - thank you, needed that.
that hw is the george bush turnpike
Witches and graffiti artists? Can’t wait for episode 4 where they go to find Banksy hiding out in Diagon Alley.
Good ass review, Echo!
You kind of went easy on this. Surprised