DEATH METAL THEN VS. NOW feat. TheSuffocater! Old School vs. Modern Death Metal (2022) Riff Battle
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2022
- In this very special installment of the Then Vs. Now series, I am joined by the riff battle legend himself TheSuffocater! I could think of noone better to represent the Old School Death Metal side of this battle.
When it first emerged, the extreme nature and violent or even overtly Satanic imagery of death metal was truly shocking: nothing like it had been heard before. While some of the shock value may have dulled over time, bands have continued to push the limits to try and create the heaviest music possible, with no concern for mainstream acceptance. Have they succeeded? Or was old school death metal the best? As always, you be the judge and let us know in the comments!
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Hey Thomas , thanks for having me as the Old School guy :) You are a hell of a guitarist !
The man, the legend 🤘🏼
It was an honor! One of my inspirations for the riff battle format, very exciting to have you on a video 🤘
Ur both amazing my brothers in metal!!!
This was a shower thought of mine about two weeks ago so thank you! Also... stay out of my shower please... disgusting...
You're certainly one of my favorite metal youtube guitarists out there man! Keep it up, and I like your collection of guitars too!
Love how it doesn’t matter whether the metal is old or new, the warlock is timeless.
Still the most metal guitar ever made IMO.
just had mine customized tooooo . me is most proud 😸
Old School Death Metal is the best music ever made, modern Death Metal is amazing in its own right but the old, vintage Death Metal sound is the thing i love the most. Props to both players, you guys rocks!
I agree. The technicality of modern Death Metal is incredible, but it's also less memorable IMO. I enjoy both but those old school riffs get me going every time.
Indeed
@@malteadotas4 yeah its hard sometimes to recognize what band you are listening nowadays (soo many great bands in these days), yet i always can tell appart Suffocation from Incantation, and Incantation from Immolation despite how similar the bands names are, just for how iconic Is the music of any of those bands
@@GabAssbreaker exactly! and the sound.Each band is very unique, they are so recognizable. \m/
@@malteadotas4 there's basically no such thing as tech death anymore. All death metal is pretty technical now
Seeing "old school" being applied to albums that came out when I was a teenager (I'm 33 now), like Bolt Thrower "Those Once Loyal", is such a trip. Old school will never not mean bands like Death, Morbid Angel, Suffocation, etc. \m/
Is no one gonna talk about how amazing that Archspire bit was? Such precision, and definitely at full tempo! 😂 keep up the good work, lads
That was a f**kin sick collab! Awesome tracks and awesome shreds from Thomas Hogue and TheSuffocater! Let's keep this going, guys. Please!!
Indeed! I have done some of these before but not in awhile. Any bands you are thinking of?
Great riff battle ! As impressive as Archspire is, (and I absolutely love their brand of Tech) there is no denying the infectious joy of 90s Deicide (Legion is king)
🤘👹 HELL YEAH DECIDE💥
Legion is death metal perfection, 29 minutes without a second wasted on fluff
i usually lean towards modern death metal, but deicide has to be one of the best bands, period.
For me it was remembering how much I love Obituary, Bolt Thrower and Death. But I guess we all have our favourites.
Legion is one of the best metal albums ever!
Deicide never came back to it's quality, but it's ok. Better they have one ever hammer album and a few good, than more good and no killer like Legion.
Older ftw. Honestly without the vocals, the newer stuff sounds like it could fit in across several different modern metal genres. I expecting just a tonal difference, but there's more than that going on.
I feel like that’s because modern metal has a lot of integrating of other genres due to the broad spectrum of metal now
It's all great. I do think that there is a little bit of tradeoff where the "evil" vibe diminishes in proportion to technicality. It's not a good or bad thing -- just a thing.
this is really unexpected but so amazing collab! you really should do more videos together, cause this one is the fire!
I knew Spiritual Healing before it played just by the finger placement 😁 can't beat old school Death Metal! I need to listen to more newer Death Metal, I'll take this as a recommendation!
I just can't really get into the newer stuff
newer bands i'd recommend (besides rivers of nihil and archspire) include but are not limited to: Revocation, Jinjer, Brand of sacrifice, and if you are in a particular spicey mode paledusk. Slugdge is one of my favorites but I wouldn't consider them newer death metal.
@@zannall2699 Do you know any instrumental death metal bands? My girlfriend would like it, but she hates growling.
I know Blotted Science, but it's too much Jazz. I search classical old school death metal. Or trash metal.
@@HaasiAustria without harsh vocals you might be able too get her into heavy edm.
@@zannall2699 Sorry, your message was deleted again. Do you wrote band names, that could violate any rules? 😀
I only could read your first lines in the message, you spent an hour for researching. Wow, you do that for a stranger, thanks!
I found also something, will write it in another message. If it would be deleted.
After that song from Left Hand Path, that Decapitated Riff hits insanely hard... although imho over the course of the video the br00tal sound of the new stuff wears out pretty quickly and the old stuff is a lot more diverse.
those once loyal... 🥵🥵
I've really enjoyed TheSuffocater's videos. I would have liked to see Pestilence in the "Old School" mix but nice job overall. Though I'm an old school guy, Death Metal has come quite a long way in the last 30 years, as is apparent in this video. However, Chuck Schuldiner was way ahead of his time.
mind reflections just hits so hard
Honestly, I think a number of these newer songs illustrated the conservatism in death metal writing (eg Abysmal Dawn, Aborted, Cannibal Corpse). Of course, many of those also are pretty veteran bands.
Something special whit Death Metal, old school , new ...its still Death Metal 🤘
Been listening to death metal for 25 years and I love it all. Lots of new bands with old school chops too these days. Shit, even cassettes are coming back.
MIssed the opportunity to do Barnes CC and Corpsegrinder CC.
The old school and new school warlocks were a nice touch.
Just a great collab guys keep going !! We want more of you !
Great video! You did a perfect job of showing the contrasts of modern and old school death metal by playing all these amazing riffs
Great job to both of you! Man, I love that Rivers of Nihil riff. Such a fun one!
Awesome collaboration!!! And there is no clear winner as both are just as amazing!
Yessss!! I asked a couple months ago, and now we receive!! Glad this worked out! Killer playing from you both
TheSuffocater wins again! There's no school like the old school!
Never expected to see this collab but this was awesome, really enjoy both of your channels
Thank goodness for content like this. Not a boring reaction or demo.
what an awesome vid
Didn't know I wanted/needed you two to do something together until 5 minutes ago
That was awesome guys, really enjoyed it. Y'all are badass guitarists!
Maybe it is because I am from "then" (I even saw Death on the Leprosy tour)😊but I prefer the Old School death stuff. The older stuff has more groove with the technicality (but is no less brutal) -- I also prefer the drumming in the OS death. I get bored with blast beats. That said, Rivers of Nihil have been one of my favourite new (progressive) death bands for a few years now.
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Absolutely brilliant, both of you.
Old and raw death metal is always the best
Great track selection. Kudos to both of you!
Two of some of the best metal guitarist youtube creators collabing? I love it
I hope yous get together more. That was exquisite
killer video! I love all death metal, doesn't matter the school. I absolutely love the classics, but I also am a very big fan of a a lot of new stuff too. I'm as much part of the new school as much as I am the old school. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Spiritual Healing the GOAT, fight me!!!
Nothing in the world will ever compare to old school death metal
Definitely one of my fav vids...f@*$ing sick as hell, I loved this collaboration guys!! Perfect guitar playing from both of you.
Subscribed!!!!!!!
Thank you!
Even have the old school warlock out...I salute your old school homage.. Awesome video. Good job guys.
The collab i always wanted!
what an amazing combination! Two of my favourites, this is just too strong
Can this amazing collaboration spawn an original track ? Id smother the like button for that . Love this channel!
Thomas so good to see the views reflect your amazing content, don't stop bro!
Great collab! 🤘🏼
Whoa hell of a collab! Good job guys
Great cola guys! You both are amazing guitarists! 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
No way, TheSuffocater is in!.
I listen to both. They're fucking awesome. Old is still gold.
Excellent video 🤘🤘🤘
Yes! Spiritual Healing is one of my favorite Death songs
shit like this is how i have discovered like 90% of my new fav bands in the last year
Good stuff as always my man ,, 🤘🏻🤘🏻
This selection of riffs from both of you are s teir. 11/10
Awesome video. For me that Bolt Thrower riff slayed everything 😍 fucking menacing.
Archspire is a beast 🎸
That was awesome!!!! Thank you guys!
Epic riffs! Amazing video! 🤩🤘🍻
Love the featuring with suffocater! 💀🤘🏽
Sweet collab 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Great track selection. You guys rule!
Subbed mate ! Loved Suffy doing 'suffocation'!!
I didn't even notice that 😂 Thanks for the sub!
You literally played my modern death playlist 1:1 impressive and good taste ;)
This was awesome ple as ee do more collaborative together!
DAM!!! What can I say u guys freaking shred awesome Collab great vid 💥🤘🤘👹💀⚡
Bolt thrower’s riffing is the best. So iconic, a trademark.
Well, that was awesome!
Holy shit what an awesome video 😀
What about power metal then vs now?
By the way, great channel, I love it!
Awesome video
That was great guys 🤘
So stoked to see the epic Those Once Loyal riff
They all slay !!!!!!! But i like my '80s death metal damn !!!!! It took heavy metal my favorite time period farther
Cheers !! Sounds killer
Thanks, for the enlighten knowledge from the dark.
awesome guys!!! all hail the Suffocater!!! my first time seeing you thomas, very well done brother...just subbed!!! cheers!!!
Great to hear, thanks for the sub and kind words!
Now that's some good clean fun
oh I love the nearest Decapitated album. so groove, really cool \m/
Never understood how it s possible to play with your guitar on the right leg 😂. Great playing by the way!
That was an epic battle! I am more old-school oriented, so the one thing that would’ve made me happy is after you played Cannibal Corpse newer stuff? If the sufficator would’ve whipped out some thing from back in the 80s or 90s lol.
Awesome feat
Old school for the indesputable win. Great job both of you guys, excellent playing!
Was literally thinking "what if he had a guest? Would they be g/s'ed in?" Great keying job! It definitely couldn't have been easy!
yessssssssssss this was so sick!!!!!!!1
I need a Spotify playlist of these tunes!
Man i just love every video you do! Sick collab bros, you guys are awesome!
Love to hear it! Thanks for the support!
Hell yeah I loved this, oldschool got the feelgood vibes but modern for me got the chug you want, love both!
Old school metal forever 🤘
One thing's crystal clear: All hail the oldschool!!!
I want a playlist with all these songs😮🖤
I love both, but if I had to chose one it would be old school.
You guys should do more videos together.
I admire your commitment to rapidly age to do the old school part
Anything for the fans
man you guys hit the fucking mark for new and old bands, rivers of nihil and archspire mwah. but the classics i expected were there death morbid angel and cannibal corpse.
Old school wins easily!
Damn, sick guitar tones in this video
Thank you for the video. I’ve been waiting it for a ling time. Waiting for a progressive metal))
I was really hoping to see Rivers of NIhil on here, and I was not disappointed. most excellent
The beautiful thing about metal is there’s no such thing as one is better both are legendary!
EPIC COLLAB
Amazingly enough - just today (!) - I had Vader "De Profundis" (1994?) and Sinister "Diabolical Summoning" (1993?) playing while working from home, followed up by the new Archspire. And here's the thing - if either of those early 90s album had been released this month, they'd be on "album of the year" lists on websites this year..... It's been decades, but how far have we really come?!
Love how you made it obvious that you had to speed up Archspire lol
im old school. loved this and have a heap of new bands to enjoy. First thing I notice on hearing this is that snare is really played at speed in the more modern bands. Death, Morbids and Benediction always my faves but.
peace