I love the fact that you don't use stock videos and photos, you use actual footage and real photos and you present them so they flow with the story (hope that makes sense). Always very well done.
@@nicoledenning8090 Yep! There's one channel that covers a lot of Asian crimes that does that. I stopped watching it after I noticed the narrator, an AI voice would repreat talking points over and over again to make the videos longer.
I think I know which YT channel video you are talking about, the one that's called True Crime Case Files. That channel all of their stories are fiction, they are all made up to get views, another YT who does research their channel couldn't find the actual cases involved in their videos. They are all fiction, I actually used to watch that channel myself. Their channel use stock photos and paused video footage.
Local from Oahu here and I was raised and still currently live in Waipahu actually less than 5 minutes away from the clinic. Mahalo for sharing this case to the world! P.S. your use of local media coverage, and visualisation of the streets of Waipahu really shows your attention to detail and you have my most appreciation for not using any stock footage and putting the viewers outside of Hawaii’i in a very unique perspective!
I thought for sure we were going to find out that the suspect's daughter wasn't his and a DNA test would have revealed her father to be the victim. I'm surprised there isn't some type of public outrage over this.
Well my X father in law is Dog The Bounty Hunter Brah 🤙🤙 Local from Waikiki Man, and I was in the movie 20 First Dates with Adam Sandler & Drew Berry more 🤙🤙
@@mjlives5428you get beat up if you act like a twat. Don’t act like you know everything and listen to the locals and you’ll be fine. If you go learn to surf and are just starting, you’re not going to be surfing where the boys are anyway
I'm from Hawaii and I learned more about this story than any source, you are truly a great story teller with a great voice that kept my attention, you gained a new subscriber!
I hope it's Eric's cos he was driven to insanity by John and the cheating wife, they played games on phone messages there's a deep dive into the case but I love this channel and I learned other things because that's why I watch this channel is too learn, ❤🙏💚
I love the fact that the content creator uses the actual photos of the people involved and not some AI generated bull crap. Thank you for the excellent and well thought out video!
It can get worse: some channels have IA generated STORIES, so it’s not just the photos, EVERYTHING is bogus… a tip: usually the cases resemble a cheap porn movie plot (like a married guy having an affair with his stepdaughter)
@@sunkist11 I think none of them are his "real" friends. They're just his "party friends", or that they're equally messed up as him. I believe those who are close enough to him knew about the affairs.
@@COMPUTER.SCIENCE. 🥴🥴🥴 you're probably right. My initial reaction to his "friends" saying nothing but great things about this man who was just being sleazy was like 😒 really? Just because he's dead doesn't mean you make up things and lie about his character to make it look good 😂
@@sunkist11 yup, he BROKE up at least 3 families! All are his patients! On top of that he's a big gambler! Absolutely NOT a KIND and ETHICAL human being. He's WILD in nature.
In the area where I live, 95% of the rare murders are over 2 things, drugs or adultery. In order to live a peaceful life, I live by the motto- Stay away from drugs and out of other people's beds. People get really mean about those 2 things.
I am not killing or am I willing to spend years in prison to avenge getting cheated on. It is not even worth it esp. as the other willing participant is living freely
I love that the cases you cover on your channel don't regurgitate the same cases as other channels do, It's always normally a case I've not heard of before 🙏
I wholeheartedly agree. Most other channels either all cover the same cases or seem to regurgitate old ones as well. Cases that haven't been talked about in 2-3 years and maybe they think people have forgotten about. Imo it just looks a bit lazy.
@amityislandchum who asked for your opinion?? Wasn't you told If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say it all?? Have you really got nothing better to do with your time other than pick apart peoples comments lol?? Shows how you were raised 🤣
The husband is not in prison, it was a mistrial and it’s unlikely it will be taken to trial again as the DA doesn’t have enough evidence to convict as the jury couldn’t reach a guilty verdict.
Not a huge loss then really is it. Meh. Just let Eric live the rest of his life with his adulterous wife and kid. At least the kid won't grow up in a fatherless household I suppose 🤷♀️ The courts let this one slide. Probably won't be a re-trial.
Jon really got himself in a pickle… He definitely had this coming messing around with married women, and the women are no better. Please stop cheating on your spouses, just get a divorce!!
Sad reality of life is that you can't control anyone, PERIOD. Married or not people desire who they desire. Sure a piece of paper keeps some faithful but for the most part couples aren't as happy as they like to appear. Everyone has a wandering eye, its not just men. I agree that one should get a divorce, but like this couple, what keeps them together is fear of losing kids or money or houses. It's NOT love that keeps most couple together.
NO, don’t even get a divorce if all you want to do is cheat……instead get counseling, seek to know why you would even want to cheat. Many cheat because they are empty, hoping someone ..anyone will fill their cup. Only Jesus fulfills and makes people whole.
Jon did not deserve murder, the game of sex is older than the Bible, people play it all the time! not a reason to murder, not these days when it happens all the time no matter male or female, black or white, older or younger, murder is NOT a valid reason for jealous possessive obsessive emotions😮
They say ...once a cheater always a cheater. You would be foolish to think that she will not cheat again. She has no self control and looks to her needs first instead of thinking about others. She is the definition of someone who is toxic.
They never change and never try making a ho into a wife let alone start a family with a baby. Husband messed up by trying to salvage that relationship if a partner cheats on you they already think little of you time to move on.
@@jdaniels1313no she was toxic knowingly deceiving her husband for years while they have a CHILD together and not breaking up with him trying to manipulate both men at the same time how can you get more toxic?
@@ThanLam-kg6sc I would certainly agree her choices and results during the time period of the affair were toxic. I look at her more as an impulsive child who thought she could have one man support her while she was boinking another. Her signing the agreement, that if they divorce, she gets none of the house and have him get full custody seems to show some repentance.
John was a schmooze-king, and in sure he played a smooth game with his female friends, Coworkers, clients, and male buddy's wives. This shows you can be successful and good lookin like Eric, but his wife was more than open to be hit on by a smooth operator like John
Common sense everybody . Don't let your wife get naked on any man's table . Massage, therapy, acupuncture.. etc. no reason for your wife to see male doctors if female doctors are available (why feminists never say that?) .. remember John Redcorn
Thanks for narrating clealry and slowly coupled with actual video clips and photos not using silly random media like other channels! Please keep up the good work!
It's also sad that you even need to set boundaries like, "Stop sleeping with other men." I'm glad Eric wasn't convicted but I just hate that he's staying with that horrible woman. Move on. There are plenty of good and faithful women.
@@hijackhypergamy No it's called commitment. You can't commit to someone and still be free to do whatever you want. You're automatically agreeing to boundaries when you enter a commitment.
It was only a matter of time something like this would've happened. When you play with fire, sometimes you get burned. Helping to screw up families, after they come to you for help, is a betrayal that hits deep.
@@traderhines76 Anyone who knowingly has an affair with a married person is morally bankrupt and just as culpable as the betraying spouse. I'm tired of this argument giving these homewreckers a pass!
@@CalatheaPlant What about that married person? Are they morally bankrupt as well? Home wrecker? He’s a man. Us men think below the waist. You give it. We take it😂
If you admit that both are guilty, then how can you also say "That snake woman ruined both men"??? I agree she should have accountability but you say she ruined him as if he didn't conduct 3 separate affairs and also illegal gambling....
not even poor quality....NO quality for wife material or even a decent human being!! She initiated an affair and when the man gets murdered in cold blood she does not have the decency to tell the truth!! Walking out of the courtroom holding hands with that murderer proves that fact!!! When he came home from murdering that man she had to have known something was up, and I wouldn't be surprised if she knew he left to do it. Randomly burning a tiki for a 4-year old in the backyard on some random night for 5 minutes? and delivering bricks to a site, but no bricks being visible in the truck nor does the security guard at the site see you. How those jurists who voted to free him could sleep knowing they allowed him to go free is just shameful!!
@@1greenMitsi I wouldn't call the wife a 304, I think that her husband had been the only man she has been with since high school and likely found a real attraction to a man that was completely different to her controlling husband! The man who was murdered seemed like a carefree "living life to the fullest" type of man and her husband appears to be a controlling emotionally abusive type of man who basically became complacent as a husband. He admitted he had emotionally neglected her. It was the fact that he realized she was in love with another man that made him jealous. The fact that they had been having an affair for so long confirms the fact that he really was ignorant of the reality that she had checked out.
Joyce happily signed that post-nup agreement because she likely thought Eric would be in jail. But him telling her parents and stuff just shows his lack of judgement. I think she masterminded it all.
@@Lee-wk3cbbeing married is just a effin paper. Don't cheat point blank! Just because you Ain’t married doesn’tmean that if you cheat it doesn’t count🥱
@@kt8199 I would usually agree, but he manipulated his patient because of what they went through. He prayed on her weakness. And apparently it happened often.
So, the 10 minutes of the entire town talking about what an amazing, giving, super-duper guy Jon was went down in flames with the truth that he was a TERRIBLE person having an affair with a married woman and actively trying to get her to leave her husband. Wow. Terrible, terrible man.
That's why family testimony is the most biased and useless testimony in existence. Less reliable than eyewitness testimony and polygraphs. The family is either full of shit or ignorant. Almost sounds like he was using his clinic to strictly pick up chicks. And he had a gambling problem.
Not just once though.. I thought it was some kind of love shit. But hearing he had affairs with not one but more married women..that is some weird sht lol.. the guy mastered how to get a married woman to bed.
Eric should have just separated when he found out about his cheating wife, why stay, he'll always have doubts because the trust has been broken. As for Jon, a single man, a "professional" having affairs with his clients and married women is really awful.
Men have had mistresses and concubines since the beginning of time. Religions which I would like to point out often times view women as property and in some religions you can have multiple wives. In Europe and especially France it is quite common for two people who love one another to get married, but also take lovers though it is not hidden from the other and the married couple have kids and this is normal practice. It's problematic for me when ppl so broadly say not to sleep with married women as if they are someone else's property. Humans all have desires and affection. Some marriages go stale but children are involved and a divorce would be traumatic for the child or children and women who were doted on and courted and impressed at the gate, but later once children where involved and the husband knew divorce unlikely, you see the true side come out and they give less affection, the flame dies out it happens. I have empathy for every person in the triangle and just wish ppl would acknowledge it takes two to tango and stop treating the wife like she's someone's property because of vows but nobody brings up the fact the husband was sleeping around also. Women are often treated as lesser or blamed in ways a man would never be. It's a cautionary tale also played out since the beginning of time. Ppl getting killed in jealousy over their other half cheating but I've come to realize that it is much more complex then that These women don't hate their husband's, but miss being appreciated, doted on, loved and they connect with someone who they like and it happens. Someone shouldn't have lost their life over it but this is typical of all animals in the kingdom. The male asserts his dominance and will fight to the death over the female, show off and impress the female, and mate so the progeny can continue the circle of life. When you look at it from the human aspect it's easier to understand.
@@SkyKing-e4uYou really write a lot Mr shameless, yes cheating was there before religion, also at that time it comes with consequences i believe in each time there was a system to protect each person's rights probably better than right now after religion sent by god, religion guidance are to live in a healthy society with happy people around us not people full of hate because they couldn't get there justice because of people like you, who like to support the winning side. So no system has always been there, even with your brain without trying to be smart enough and make excuses you know the bastard is shitty, not trustworthy, low measurable life, who goes after man's wives he's wrong, period!
🙏🏼 wife is still more important than the son.. super blind dignity men & uber ego Ego can make you A blind hearted! Wouldn't have understood now & since Metropolitan age was very New age of a No & No
I believe Eric's the one who committed the Murder. But I agree with Judge's decision. Evidences were weak. I could also say the Attorney was not prepared or lack of experience. While Defense Attorney did a good Job.
So she snuck out at 1am to cheat on her husband and left their 1 y.o. kid at home alone? She is the only one here who did not get what they had coming to them.
@@trex5878 what am I assuming? The husband said that she left the kid there alone. He testified to it. But even if she hadnt, taking a one year old with you to leave the marital home at 1 am to meet up with the man she was cheating on the child's father with isn't much better.
ALOHA 👋🏽 JustThoughtLounge! This happened near to where I live, and was born and raised. There was not much coverage on this so I appreciate this so much!! It appears this Jon guy was a player and supposedly had a ton of affairs.
Well done! I live in Hawaii and remember when this happened. But, I never really got that much background on what really happened. All the video footage and photos used for the locations are accurate. Thank you for the excellent video!
I have heard of it, since I live in Hawai'i. It was a juicy news on the island last year. Additionally, it was funny that Joyce said that her psychic told her to have an affair with Jon.
Whoa randomly stumbling upon this channel was my highlight of the day. Can’t wait to watch the archives, super objective and facts based news coverage is harder to find everyday.
Oh, and you have lots to catch up on... enjoy so many stories you've never seen covered before, as he covers lesser-known cases and is always impartial and does outstanding research.
This is one of the best true crime channels on UA-cam. I recommend it to everyone looking for a new channel to watch & mention it in any conversation about them.
I remember the day I found JTL!!!❤❤ Magical. This is the absolute best true crime channel. The archive is wicked. Enjoy!! Kevin and Cathy rock my crime world!!
28:40 A psychic told her it was ok to have an affair? Did this so-called “psychic” ALSO tell her that this affair would lead to murder? Or her husband going on trial, twice? Or anybody he other problems an affair would cause in her marriage? I’m gonna guess not…
Yeah... I mean if psychics were actually psychic, don't you think they would just know what numbers to play in the lotto and keep winning day after day, week after week, and retire? It's one of the biggest scams out there, and how people fall for it is beyond my wildest imagination.
Lol right? These are the real questions. I started shaking my head as soon as the psychic was brought up. I can't believe people still think psychics can do what they claim. If they could, they'd be employed by every law enforcement agency in existence and wouldn't need investigators. I mean the clues are all there people, you just need to open your eyes. How do you get addicted to going to psychics? Your pattern recognition has to kick in at some point doesn't it? These GD psychics are never right, or they're no better than a coin flip.
@@barnacleburrito3728 Definitely true. Regulated professions have boards to protect the publics interest and safety. Acupuncture is regulated in Hawaii and therefore relationships with patients would not be acceptable. A complaint would have led to investigation into his conduct.
@@zlane6532 you could have said this with a slightly different tone. You're not even trying to bully anyone this time and you still sound patronizing and condescending. Just because you're slightly educated doesn't mean you're the smartest person on the internet. One thing is for sure...you're smart but you don't have any emotional intelligence and compassion. You're full of yourself.
I take my hat off to you. You had a lot of actual footage of Waipahu, even with the rail. Great presentation, simple (for dummies like me) yet entertaining.
@@anunyakamu77 when you know a person is married you should not even entertain getting involved with them merely because you someone is bound to get hurt.
Eric should amend the agreement with his wife to add that she should pay him alimony, in addition to the other conditions. She lied to him about staying away from psychics, so he gets add another condition. The reality is she would have kept cheating if she hadn't been caught. She wasn't sorry for the affair, just sorry she got caught, and afraid of losing her comfortable life.
@@flux1968 or he could just leave/ divorce her why make stipulations if she's not following? Why try to force someone to do something they're not going for do or want to do?
If there is no better evidence surfacing, it will be a waste of time and money to trial again. Scratching my head how license plates are still blurry in this day and age of high technology.
Because this is store security, not license plate readers. They're not made to see every detail no matter what the distance, nor accounting for the vehicle being in motion. What puzzles me is how people seem to believe that "computers" should just be capable of anything. People believe there's just this huge bank that includes all the information of every crime ever committed and if law enforcement just enters some extremely vague search terms, all these results will come up that definitely include all the reports & even person notes and observations and details of evidence, even on crimes 20 or 30 years old, so why haven't they figured this stuff out? I get that today's generation has been brought up with a lot of instant gratification when it comes to answers but in reality, there's almost always a lot of hard work behind those answers. You're just not the one doing the work to get it.
The main issue isn't the quality of camera, but rather storage. High definition video takes an immense amount of storage space, and running the cameras 24-7 doesn't help. Many of these places simply lack the resources and the wherewithal to invest in storage solutions to take into account those storage needs. Not only that, but you then have to deal with organizing all of the security footage, which takes time, effort, and money many of these places either don't have at all, or aren't willing to part with.
Nothing can be blamed on a psychic....she was a damn grown independent woman who made her choice completely on her own! She may have used the excuse for her murdering husband, but I am not falling for it. There were tons of lies in the case told by the murderer, so he has zero credibility to believe that nonsense!! Even the nonsense of randomly burning a tiki stick for 5 minutes for his 4 year old daughter after arriving back from "dumping bricks" illegally at the dump....also a bunch of nonsense!!
I think the daughter is Jon’s. He HELPED them get pregnant & then continued a years long affair with the wife. If the affair ended 7 months prior why did he just randomly do it ? I think he tested the child & the prosecutors in the second trial should look into that as well.
What is it with all these comments condemning the single man like he was at fault? He was a bachelor who was sleeping with a married woman who obviously didn't value her marriage enough to remain faithful to her husband or to keep the family unit intact for her child. That's not his problem but hers, and it sure as hell doesn't warrant losing his life. Married women get hit on all the time because people aren't mind readers. If she's not committed enough to say "I'm married" and decline someone's advances, then she shouldn't be married. A person lost his life because of an adulterous woman and her unhinged husband. I hope he gets life without parole and rots in jail.
@@francocholo1247Of course it's his problem he was aware of their marriage. That's how he met her in the first place was to help with getting pregnant through some voodoo.Bullshit acupunctured woo woo Chinese medicine Auntie, obviously I had the attention and knowledge 2 be aware of what he was doing, which was messing with a married woman. It doesn't matter if she accepts his jester sorts her if he didn't gesture that nothing would have happened. So you sound like a cheater, yourself? With that mindset
@francocholo1247 because marriage is a legal contract that he knowingly engaged in its violation. In some states the other person outside the marriage can be sued. Also because of the moral and ethical implications in destroying that legal entity. And yes the married party shares the blame. And no he didn't "deserve" death.
I’m born and raised in Hawaii on that island and I applaud your narration and pronunciation. It’s not easy if you’re not from there and you were spot on about everything. This is a very sad and unfortunate story. The mistrial is understandable given the evidence, but I hope they’re able to get the second trial going soon.
Aloha from Hawaii, I work in the area (Waikele fire station) and pass this place every time we go to the storeroom to pick up supplies. I also noticed the narrator not messing up our Hawaiian names!
This wasn't an open and shut case. No exact DNA match, no fingerprints, no murder weapon, no defendant phone location evidence, alternate explanations for the limited evidence linking him to the crime. Timelines didn't add up. Motive is all they had and even that was questionable.
Great channel! Thought indeed... I love how you drive a deliberate and focused pace as you tell your stories. I also love the dignity you afford victims and their families.
This a tragedy but also a lesson. Dudes stay away from married women, either you putting your life in danger or the women. Nothing is scarier for a man who felt like he lost everything.
Interestingly acupuncturists screwing around with patients is a major reason the industry was regulated in Canada. Now if an acu is caught doing this they can lose their license.
Hmm I wonder what's up with these acupuncturists 🤔🤔 is it because clients are half-naked while being treated? Wild that they have to even regulate it like that
Another great case covered. That so was intriguing & you told it so well, you’ve got a calm way of speaking, explaining the lead up to the murder then the case, great research & factual information.watching from Sydney Australia
Horrible circumstances. Just horrible. I'm sorry for Eric and the choice he [edit: allegedly] made. Such an amazing life to throw away like that for two people who don't even respect themselves.
When a couple wants to have a baby, the husband will usually state "we want to get pregnant"; not simply "she" wants to get pregnant, as that implies that she is the only one who wants a baby in the marriage and/or partnership.
Why not just Divorce her! She may have had many more affairs he didn't know or was to too blind to see. The one in the relationship is the homewrecker!!! Can't blame nobody but the person in the relationship!!
Why didn’t she just divorce? She is at fault too. I hate cheaters! They hurt not only others but themselves too. Murder should never be an option. This is so tragic. Thanks for this story since I never heard of it. If you know there is ever a chance you will cheat then you shouldn’t ever get married.
Dude, I LIVE for your channel! I have seen every video at least twice! You have the perfect voice and attitude for these types of documentaries. Really am a big fan! Much love and respect from your friends/fans here in Cleveland, OH!
47 year old unmarried man messing with married women, I'm sure that once they are divorced he loses interest he's looking for the excitement of an illicit relationship. In my opinion he had it coming
Eric and Joyce walking out of the courthouse together is so odd. She is a lying cheater and he's a control freak. Their relationship will not have a happy ending and is silly for them to put on a front like it will. And as others have said, Eric should get a DNA test for their child in case Jon really did a lot more helping in Joyce getting pregnant.
Really enjoy your videos. I believe 100% he did it. What are the chances of narrowing done the trucks to one and that owners wife just happened to have had an affair with the victim? But without a "smoking gun" I think they will have a hard time getting an entire jury to agree on guilty.
Apparently there's no tracking or logging software in those vehicles. I thought most had it these days. Remember how crucial it was in the Murdaugh case.
Jon liked risky behavior, affairs with married women, probably addicted to the excitement, similar to his illegal gambling. He chose the life that led to these results.
They dated for 13 years.. Eric knew he had no business marrying this woman, and all her behaviors proved him right. If only he listened and not married her all this could’ve been avoided.
yup 👍🏼 the marriage is just a social binding for portraying social dignity & racial privileges But mix modern culture is what I wouldn't hv in mind 👍🏼 All is needed was a simple devorse but never came to lights 🙏🏼 He chooses dignity ego centric & shambles like an attitude mask, significantly showing his not a ' family men ' but more of a Luxury Monger's & not an adolescent caregiver 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
While I see it was highly like he killed Jon, there was definitely reasonable doubt. I don’t think they’ll prove guilty unless they switch up and get better or more solid evidence.
@@FreddieK-h1u wrong... coincidences don't happen like that. What are the chances the exact truck was owned by his ex-lover's husband? The only truck they couldn't rule out? And the timing was impeccable? Let alone dude starts a fire in the backyard that night, leaves with a toolbox, and says he dumped bricks which both isn't allowed & not in the bed of the truck? I don't see any reasonable doubt.
@@TIMTIMEdits you obviously have never watched cases with such evidence that turn out to be coincidences. happens fairly often. not saying this guy is innocent but there are cases where innocent have been convicted on these coincidences
@@cheery-hex do you even know what the odds would be for the ONLY TRUCK with 3 letters and 3 numbers in the same make and model and the only one unaccounted for in all of Hawaii would happen to be owned by the husband of his ex-lover? I mean those odds must be ASTRONOMICAL.
@@rachelmoore1991 that's doesn't sound as smart as you think it does. There are odds in DNA, in the hundreds of millions... even then, DNA is considered perfect, even with odds.
yeah kev that smile at the end, u know u outdid yourself on this one ! bravo. i just became a bonafide member. took a bit of time. had ta get muh money right, muh money right muh money right. :D
Thanks for another great video. I don't understand why you don't have more subscribers. You are as good, if not better, than the others in your genre who have over a million!
The thing is most of those other channels who have over a million subs don't even tend to get half the views from their total sub count. This channel grows quite substantially from week to week and will eventually be at a million or more anyhow.
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Anyone who cheats on their own partner, or with someone else's, isn't worth ruining your life for.
RIGHT!!!
Exactly.
True
It was more about his bruised ego
correct! or staying with, for that matter, kids or not!....... ya heard!!
I love the fact that you don't use stock videos and photos, you use actual footage and real photos and you present them so they flow with the story (hope that makes sense). Always very well done.
same here. i absolutely hate stock photos/videos
Oh I agree so much with this! There is nothing worse than over doing the stock images especially when the images are used over and over in same video!
@@nicoledenning8090 Yep! There's one channel that covers a lot of Asian crimes that does that. I stopped watching it after I noticed the narrator, an AI voice would repreat talking points over and over again to make the videos longer.
I think I know which YT channel video you are talking about, the one that's called True Crime Case Files. That channel all of their stories are fiction, they are all made up to get views, another YT who does research their channel couldn't find the actual cases involved in their videos. They are all fiction, I actually used to watch that channel myself. Their channel use stock photos and paused video footage.
Also it is great he present the story as it is without expressing his own opinions like other people out there and trying to be funny
Local from Oahu here and I was raised and still currently live in Waipahu actually less than 5 minutes away from the clinic. Mahalo for sharing this case to the world!
P.S. your use of local media coverage, and visualisation of the streets of Waipahu really shows your attention to detail and you have my most appreciation for not using any stock footage and putting the viewers outside of Hawaii’i in a very unique perspective!
I thought for sure we were going to find out that the suspect's daughter wasn't his and a DNA test would have revealed her father to be the victim. I'm surprised there isn't some type of public outrage over this.
Well my X father in law is Dog The Bounty Hunter Brah 🤙🤙 Local from Waikiki Man, and I was in the movie 20 First Dates with Adam Sandler & Drew Berry more 🤙🤙
I wanna go learn to surf there.Is it a true thing you'll get beat up if not local?Toronto Canada here.
@@mjlives5428if you know where NOT to go, and are respectful you’ll be fine.
@@mjlives5428you get beat up if you act like a twat. Don’t act like you know everything and listen to the locals and you’ll be fine. If you go learn to surf and are just starting, you’re not going to be surfing where the boys are anyway
I’m so tired of people just hoeing around instead of just divorcing the person. She is messy af!!! Smh
Women more than men nowadays. No basic morals
Would you say that about a man?
@@anitanoecker2569 I know I would! Lol
And the husband is attractive.
Jon was a Ho too
Starting a relationship with a married person is such a scummy thing to do.
Literally so gross.
Scummy all round
The married cheater is the scummy one
@@ToeKnife166 Also the one moving in on another man's territory is scummy. No excuse.
Committing a cowardly murder over it is sooooo much worse.
I'm from Hawaii and I learned more about this story than any source, you are truly a great story teller with a great voice that kept my attention, you gained a new subscriber!
same 🤣
…And Eric better DNA test that baby.
I was thinking this! Imagine if it's not Eric's baby... yikes.
Thinking the same thing
Absolutely thinking the same thing, too.
Heck yeah!!!
I hope it's Eric's cos he was driven to insanity by John and the cheating wife, they played games on phone messages there's a deep dive into the case but I love this channel and I learned other things because that's why I watch this channel is too learn, ❤🙏💚
Your channel is way underrated. Your narration, your voice and your background research is stunning.
Appreciate the kind words!
Agree 💯
Couldn't agree more. I absolutely love his voice and his content. Most underrated channel ever.
It is indeed, high quality. I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed.
@@TwistedRiffsterWHO???
I love the fact that the content creator uses the actual photos of the people involved and not some AI generated bull crap. Thank you for the excellent and well thought out video!
It can get worse: some channels have IA generated STORIES, so it’s not just the photos, EVERYTHING is bogus… a tip: usually the cases resemble a cheap porn movie plot (like a married guy having an affair with his stepdaughter)
@@GeorgeCostanzais10. true.
I like how friends and family described John as such a kind and amazing person. But he's been out there messing with married women. Like, really?
😂 Double life
@@COMPUTER.SCIENCE. I guess you can never really know about people
@@sunkist11 I think none of them are his "real" friends. They're just his "party friends", or that they're equally messed up as him. I believe those who are close enough to him knew about the affairs.
@@COMPUTER.SCIENCE. 🥴🥴🥴 you're probably right. My initial reaction to his "friends" saying nothing but great things about this man who was just being sleazy was like 😒 really? Just because he's dead doesn't mean you make up things and lie about his character to make it look good 😂
@@sunkist11 yup, he BROKE up at least 3 families! All are his patients! On top of that he's a big gambler! Absolutely NOT a KIND and ETHICAL human being. He's WILD in nature.
In the area where I live, 95% of the rare murders are over 2 things, drugs or adultery. In order to live a peaceful life, I live by the motto- Stay away from drugs and out of other people's beds. People get really mean about those 2 things.
And money.
@@TheForeverfree1 The bottom line with drugs and adultery is 💰💰💰
@@CG-gp2gc you are right!!! A lot of murders for insurance too!!!!
@@CG-gp2gcadultery rarely has anything to do with money
@@hydrated9291 Not true.
i love how you do not sensationalize this cases neither do you narrate with any biases.
I am not killing or am I willing to spend years in prison to avenge getting cheated on. It is not even worth it esp. as the other willing participant is living freely
Isn't that the Truth!
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I love that the cases you cover on your channel don't regurgitate the same cases as other channels do, It's always normally a case I've not heard of before 🙏
I wholeheartedly agree. Most other channels either all cover the same cases or seem to regurgitate old ones as well.
Cases that haven't been talked about in 2-3 years and maybe they think people have forgotten about.
Imo it just looks a bit lazy.
maybe spoiling everything right in the title is not the best idea...
Girl, please stop abusing apostrophes. That's not how they work!
@amityislandchum who asked for your opinion?? Wasn't you told If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say it all?? Have you really got nothing better to do with your time other than pick apart peoples comments lol?? Shows how you were raised 🤣
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Imagine picking prison over divorce. Also, thanks for a lesser-known case! So many of the channels I listen to repeat the same cases over and over.
The husband is not in prison, it was a mistrial and it’s unlikely it will be taken to trial again as the DA doesn’t have enough evidence to convict as the jury couldn’t reach a guilty verdict.
Maybe he took suicide and wanted to take the husband with him because he lost the affair.
Hired a gunman. Watched the schedule.
Not condoning murder but he was looking for trouble. It found him eventually. Love your channel!!! Thanks Kevin ❣️
And murder leads to even more trouble spending the rest of your life locked up, so neither should have happened.
No crush, fling, love interest, boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife or affair is worth the rest of your life behind bars.
Not condoning but condoning. At least say it with your chest.
@@sebastianbardon391 You can not condone something but still understand the reasoning behind it.
Not a huge loss then really is it. Meh. Just let Eric live the rest of his life with his adulterous wife and kid. At least the kid won't grow up in a fatherless household I suppose 🤷♀️ The courts let this one slide. Probably won't be a re-trial.
Jon really got himself in a pickle… He definitely had this coming messing around with married women, and the women are no better. Please stop cheating on your spouses, just get a divorce!!
Sad reality of life is that you can't control anyone, PERIOD. Married or not people desire who they desire. Sure a piece of paper keeps some faithful but for the most part couples aren't as happy as they like to appear. Everyone has a wandering eye, its not just men. I agree that one should get a divorce, but like this couple, what keeps them together is fear of losing kids or money or houses. It's NOT love that keeps most couple together.
NO, don’t even get a divorce if all you want to do is cheat……instead get counseling, seek to know why you would even want to cheat. Many cheat because they are empty, hoping someone ..anyone will fill their cup. Only Jesus fulfills and makes people whole.
Jon did not deserve murder, the game of sex is older than the Bible, people play it all the time! not a reason to murder, not these days when it happens all the time no matter male or female, black or white, older or younger, murder is NOT a valid reason for jealous possessive obsessive emotions😮
@@MemphisBrown-wy9es😊Sounds nice, but the scriptures doesn't say that....
@@mutahkeeno9273 I don't do scriptures I do real life, if you wanna believe go for it👍
They say ...once a cheater always a cheater. You would be foolish to think that she will not cheat again. She has no self control and looks to her needs first instead of thinking about others.
She is the definition of someone who is toxic.
Calling her "toxic" could be a little harsh... maybe impulsive, emotional, lonely, feeling neglected, etc.
They never change and never try making a ho into a wife let alone start a family with a baby. Husband messed up by trying to salvage that relationship if a partner cheats on you they already think little of you time to move on.
@@jdaniels1313no she was toxic knowingly deceiving her husband for years while they have a CHILD together and not breaking up with him trying to manipulate both men at the same time how can you get more toxic?
@@ThanLam-kg6sc I would certainly agree her choices and results during the time period of the affair were toxic. I look at her more as an impulsive child who thought she could have one man support her while she was boinking another. Her signing the agreement, that if they divorce, she gets none of the house and have him get full custody seems to show some repentance.
John was a schmooze-king, and in sure he played a smooth game with his female friends, Coworkers, clients, and male buddy's wives. This shows you can be successful and good lookin like Eric, but his wife was more than open to be hit on by a smooth operator like John
I appreciate your calm demeanor and quality content. I wish you the very best.
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That man was busy acupuncturing so many wrong places 🤣🤣🤣
Common sense everybody . Don't let your wife get naked on any man's table . Massage, therapy, acupuncture.. etc. no reason for your wife to see male doctors if female doctors are available (why feminists never say that?) .. remember John Redcorn
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Thanks for narrating clealry and slowly coupled with actual video clips and photos not using silly random media like other channels! Please keep up the good work!
Kinda sad that setting boundaries in a marriage is considered controlling.
It's also sad that you even need to set boundaries like, "Stop sleeping with other men." I'm glad Eric wasn't convicted but I just hate that he's staying with that horrible woman. Move on. There are plenty of good and faithful women.
It's a control technique using shaming and moralizing -- tell anyone that uses that on you to fo.
Bro thats white people. They love to turn words around or make norms seem evil.
@@hijackhypergamy Then you must be controlling yourself.
@@hijackhypergamy No it's called commitment. You can't commit to someone and still be free to do whatever you want. You're automatically agreeing to boundaries when you enter a commitment.
It was only a matter of time something like this would've happened. When you play with fire, sometimes you get burned. Helping to screw up families, after they come to you for help, is a betrayal that hits deep.
She destroyed her family. Not him. She betrayed her husband. That should hit deep.
@@traderhines76 Fucking around with your patients is pretty skeezy, though.
@@traderhines76 Anyone who knowingly has an affair with a married person is morally bankrupt and just as culpable as the betraying spouse. I'm tired of this argument giving these homewreckers a pass!
@@CalatheaPlant What about that married person? Are they morally bankrupt as well? Home wrecker? He’s a man. Us men think below the waist. You give it. We take it😂
@@Y0uTubeCommentPoster It is but she hot. I’m 1000 percent sure you wouldn’t turn it down. Let’s not act like we are above this.
That snake woman ruined both men. She should be held accountable to some degree...
While you're right, but that dude persuades her so..
@@adnanorochi3761 yes, both are guilty, the other one already got his consequence, that woman got away
They are all at Fault! Not just the woman.
Yes snake snake snake
If you admit that both are guilty, then how can you also say "That snake woman ruined both men"??? I agree she should have accountability but you say she ruined him as if he didn't conduct 3 separate affairs and also illegal gambling....
Joyce comes across to me as very poor quality wife material. I mean, REALLY poor.
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cant turn a 304 into a house wife
not even poor quality....NO quality for wife material or even a decent human being!! She initiated an affair and when the man gets murdered in cold blood she does not have the decency to tell the truth!! Walking out of the courtroom holding hands with that murderer proves that fact!!! When he came home from murdering that man she had to have known something was up, and I wouldn't be surprised if she knew he left to do it. Randomly burning a tiki for a 4-year old in the backyard on some random night for 5 minutes? and delivering bricks to a site, but no bricks being visible in the truck nor does the security guard at the site see you. How those jurists who voted to free him could sleep knowing they allowed him to go free is just shameful!!
I agree but men do think with their ----
@@1greenMitsi I wouldn't call the wife a 304, I think that her husband had been the only man she has been with since high school and likely found a real attraction to a man that was completely different to her controlling husband! The man who was murdered seemed like a carefree "living life to the fullest" type of man and her husband appears to be a controlling emotionally abusive type of man who basically became complacent as a husband. He admitted he had emotionally neglected her. It was the fact that he realized she was in love with another man that made him jealous. The fact that they had been having an affair for so long confirms the fact that he really was ignorant of the reality that she had checked out.
Kevin you're one of my favourite channels, your voice, delivery, research, topnotch and very listenable, thank you❤
You and coffeehouse crime are my favorite true crime channels always so informative
Are we sure she didn't have John's baby?
Bingo! "18 years, 18 years and on her 18th birthday found out it wasn't his" 🤭
I was just saying he might want to get a DNA test.
Thinking the same
Thinking the same !!
Who knows!!
It all sounds a bit suss to me!!
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Joyce happily signed that post-nup agreement because she likely thought Eric would be in jail. But him telling her parents and stuff just shows his lack of judgement. I think she masterminded it all.
The biggest lesson from this is don't play with other men's wives
I wouldn't of convicted him.. jury nullification....
I love how you seem to think he made her do it. She was a more than willing participant!
@@Lee-wk3cbbeing married is just a effin paper. Don't cheat point blank!
Just because you Ain’t married doesn’tmean that if you cheat it doesn’t count🥱
And stop cheating if you're married. Get a divorce.
@@kt8199 I would usually agree, but he manipulated his patient because of what they went through. He prayed on her weakness. And apparently it happened often.
So, the 10 minutes of the entire town talking about what an amazing, giving, super-duper guy Jon was went down in flames with the truth that he was a TERRIBLE person having an affair with a married woman and actively trying to get her to leave her husband. Wow. Terrible, terrible man.
he's the definition of FAFO.
That's why family testimony is the most biased and useless testimony in existence. Less reliable than eyewitness testimony and polygraphs. The family is either full of shit or ignorant. Almost sounds like he was using his clinic to strictly pick up chicks. And he had a gambling problem.
It’s always like that in a murder. Oh my boy never hurt a fly. My boy was such a positive help to the community.
Jon did evil. Fafo
Not just once though.. I thought it was some kind of love shit. But hearing he had affairs with not one but more married women..that is some weird sht lol.. the guy mastered how to get a married woman to bed.
Eric should have just separated when he found out about his cheating wife, why stay, he'll always have doubts because the trust has been broken. As for Jon, a single man, a "professional" having affairs with his clients and married women is really awful.
Yet everyone is here crying about Jon being the victim. That man was absolutely foul sleeping with dudes wives.
Men have had mistresses and concubines since the beginning of time. Religions which I would like to point out often times view women as property and in some religions you can have multiple wives.
In Europe and especially France it is quite common for two people who love one another to get married, but also take lovers though it is not hidden from the other and the married couple have kids and this is normal practice.
It's problematic for me when ppl so broadly say not to sleep with married women as if they are someone else's property. Humans all have desires and affection. Some marriages go stale but children are involved and a divorce would be traumatic for the child or children and women who were doted on and courted and impressed at the gate, but later once children where involved and the husband knew divorce unlikely, you see the true side come out and they give less affection, the flame dies out it happens.
I have empathy for every person in the triangle and just wish ppl would acknowledge it takes two to tango and stop treating the wife like she's someone's property because of vows but nobody brings up the fact the husband was sleeping around also.
Women are often treated as lesser or blamed in ways a man would never be.
It's a cautionary tale also played out since the beginning of time. Ppl getting killed in jealousy over their other half cheating but I've come to realize that it is much more complex then that
These women don't hate their husband's, but miss being appreciated, doted on, loved and they connect with someone who they like and it happens. Someone shouldn't have lost their life over it but this is typical of all animals in the kingdom. The male asserts his dominance and will fight to the death over the female, show off and impress the female, and mate so the progeny can continue the circle of life.
When you look at it from the human aspect it's easier to understand.
And face financial ruin by having to support a cheater the rest of his life.
@@SkyKing-e4uYou really write a lot Mr shameless, yes cheating was there before religion, also at that time it comes with consequences i believe in each time there was a system to protect each person's rights probably better than right now after religion sent by god, religion guidance are to live in a healthy society with happy people around us not people full of hate because they couldn't get there justice because of people like you, who like to support the winning side. So no system has always been there, even with your brain without trying to be smart enough and make excuses you know the bastard is shitty, not trustworthy, low measurable life, who goes after man's wives he's wrong, period!
🙏🏼 wife is still more important than the son.. super blind dignity men & uber ego
Ego can make you A blind hearted!
Wouldn't have understood now & since Metropolitan age was very New age of a No & No
I believe Eric's the one who committed the Murder.
But I agree with Judge's decision. Evidences were weak. I could also say the Attorney was not prepared or lack of experience. While Defense Attorney did a good Job.
So she snuck out at 1am to cheat on her husband and left their 1 y.o. kid at home alone? She is the only one here who did not get what they had coming to them.
Ehhhh she lost her cheat lover and husband I imagine
That's a big assumption
@@trex5878 what am I assuming? The husband said that she left the kid there alone. He testified to it.
But even if she hadnt, taking a one year old with you to leave the marital home at 1 am to meet up with the man she was cheating on the child's father with isn't much better.
@@Shacktown110 She could have left the kid with her parents or something.
@@trex5878 no. the husband literally said that she left the kid at home. Go back and watch it.
ALOHA 👋🏽 JustThoughtLounge! This happened near to where I live, and was born and raised. There was not much coverage on this so I appreciate this so much!! It appears this Jon guy was a player and supposedly had a ton of affairs.
Great video as usual. And 35min without stock footage ❤. A big thanks from Switzerland.
Great point! That's another thing that makes this so much more refreshing
Well done! I live in Hawaii and remember when this happened. But, I never really got that much background on what really happened. All the video footage and photos used for the locations are accurate. Thank you for the excellent video!
I appreciate the effort of putting real footage of Waipahu during the driving scenes 🤙
Thanks so much for your detailed and sensitive coverage, as always.
Have not heard of this case. Thanks Kevin. 🙏
I hadn't either.
Ditto!👍
Isn't it great that Kevin always has such quality content on JTL?
Been a viewer for a long time and I have no plans to stop!
Cheers! 😊
I have heard of it, since I live in Hawai'i. It was a juicy news on the island last year. Additionally, it was funny that Joyce said that her psychic told her to have an affair with Jon.
Me too and this is the first time I have ever heard of this case.
@@SV-kr9fuPsychic said it was a good idea but forgot to mention her lover would be murdered and affair revealed to everyone.
I’m having a hard time feeling bad for John here…
Whoa randomly stumbling upon this channel was my highlight of the day. Can’t wait to watch the archives, super objective and facts based news coverage is harder to find everyday.
Welcome to the channel! Glad you found us 🙂
Oh, and you have lots to catch up on... enjoy so many stories you've never seen covered before, as he covers lesser-known cases and is always impartial and does outstanding research.
This is one of the best true crime channels on UA-cam. I recommend it to everyone looking for a new channel to watch & mention it in any conversation about them.
I remember the day I found JTL!!!❤❤ Magical.
This is the absolute best true crime channel. The archive is wicked. Enjoy!! Kevin and Cathy rock my crime world!!
Oh you are in for such a treat!!! Kevin is incredible at telling these stories!
28:40 A psychic told her it was ok to have an affair? Did this so-called “psychic” ALSO tell her that this affair would lead to murder? Or her husband going on trial, twice? Or anybody he other problems an affair would cause in her marriage? I’m gonna guess not…
Yeah... I mean if psychics were actually psychic, don't you think they would just know what numbers to play in the lotto and keep winning day after day, week after week, and retire?
It's one of the biggest scams out there, and how people fall for it is beyond my wildest imagination.
Ah, no, of course not. Those pesky little details were no doubt "cloudy" to the "psychic" and just totally unexpected...🙄
ALL psychics are 100% FAKE, ALL the time!
Don't forget the devil speaks expressly through the psychic
Lol right? These are the real questions. I started shaking my head as soon as the psychic was brought up. I can't believe people still think psychics can do what they claim. If they could, they'd be employed by every law enforcement agency in existence and wouldn't need investigators. I mean the clues are all there people, you just need to open your eyes. How do you get addicted to going to psychics? Your pattern recognition has to kick in at some point doesn't it? These GD psychics are never right, or they're no better than a coin flip.
Eric should divorce his wife for cheating him. Useless lady.😮
Should have reported his affair with his licensing board, these things are actually taken more seriously then people think
that's interesting if true
@@barnacleburrito3728 Definitely true. Regulated professions have boards to protect the publics interest and safety. Acupuncture is regulated in Hawaii and therefore relationships with patients would not be acceptable. A complaint would have led to investigation into his conduct.
@@zlane6532 you could have said this with a slightly different tone. You're not even trying to bully anyone this time and you still sound patronizing and condescending. Just because you're slightly educated doesn't mean you're the smartest person on the internet. One thing is for sure...you're smart but you don't have any emotional intelligence and compassion. You're full of yourself.
He alledgedly dealt with it manually.
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Love your channel! It’s one of the best!💕
I take my hat off to you. You had a lot of actual footage of Waipahu, even with the rail. Great presentation, simple (for dummies like me) yet entertaining.
Shame on her and shame on Jon. And too bad for Jon and too bad for Eric. Does nobody honor the vows of marriage anymore?
No unfortunately no.
Not fully, no. They honor the parts they like and trash the rest.
Shame on the Justice system.
Eric the murderer is walking free.
@@g.mhamilton1505 LOLOLOL...they couldn't prove it. Are you dumb or deaf? Did you watch it or not? I'm guessing you didn't watch it.
Not in this era nope.
Very much enjoy your channel and the interesting cases you present. Most of them I've not heard of anywhere else. Wishing you continued success 🙌
Glad we can bring you something new 👍🏻👍🏻
Dude had it coming.
Love the way you narrate!
You're goin to hell.
Yes
Love the way you narrate and speak without judging anyone. You simply tell the facts!
That's a great point. I agree!
NOT JUDGING people IS WHY there IS no much cheating, so much CRIME.
Always look forward to Sundays. Getting a notification that JTL has uploaded a new video 🤗
Thank you for covering this!!
It’s hard to feel massively sorry for Jon
his wife is the one who is messing around nonstop.
@@anunyakamu77 when you know a person is married you should not even entertain getting involved with them merely because you someone is bound to get hurt.
@@amarilunayou're right...particularly when you've been warned before by her husband 😂😂
@@amariluna especially when the injured parties have access to firearms
@@venvibe9202 especially when he already broke up another marriage. He had no morals.
Eric should amend the agreement with his wife to add that she should pay him alimony, in addition to the other conditions. She lied to him about staying away from psychics, so he gets add another condition.
The reality is she would have kept cheating if she hadn't been caught. She wasn't sorry for the affair, just sorry she got caught, and afraid of losing her comfortable life.
This is the most sensible comment I've read.
Typical how women think.. it’s all about their feelings and their experiences
@@flux1968 or he could just leave/ divorce her why make stipulations if she's not following? Why try to force someone to do something they're not going for do or want to do?
He will wonder the rest of his life what she is doing behind his back. Broken trust is difficult to fix.
On other hand I wonder if she could be compelled to testify in a retrial if they divorced.
Thank you, I was wondering what happened to this case, your narration is awesome, good job 👍 😮
Thank you, Kevin! Your research and gentlemenly-ness is unmatched in the field of TC ❤❤
The married woman was the worst one in this situation. Disgusting.
If there is no better evidence surfacing, it will be a waste of time and money to trial again. Scratching my head how license plates are still blurry in this day and age of high technology.
Store owners don't buy cameras to record license plates on a street 75 feet away, they buy them to record the immediate vicinity of their store.
Because this is store security, not license plate readers. They're not made to see every detail no matter what the distance, nor accounting for the vehicle being in motion. What puzzles me is how people seem to believe that "computers" should just be capable of anything. People believe there's just this huge bank that includes all the information of every crime ever committed and if law enforcement just enters some extremely vague search terms, all these results will come up that definitely include all the reports & even person notes and observations and details of evidence, even on crimes 20 or 30 years old, so why haven't they figured this stuff out? I get that today's generation has been brought up with a lot of instant gratification when it comes to answers but in reality, there's almost always a lot of hard work behind those answers. You're just not the one doing the work to get it.
Nah, even cheap cameras are pretty good now.
The main issue isn't the quality of camera, but rather storage.
High definition video takes an immense amount of storage space, and running the cameras 24-7 doesn't help. Many of these places simply lack the resources and the wherewithal to invest in storage solutions to take into account those storage needs. Not only that, but you then have to deal with organizing all of the security footage, which takes time, effort, and money many of these places either don't have at all, or aren't willing to part with.
Blurry because there are a lot of cheap Radio Shake cameras and the magic photo enhancement tech they always use on tv and movies is fiction.
These women really could not get enough of Jon. And the psychic is just unbelievable for condoning all this.
A dumb psychic.. I won’t be surprised the psychic is also a cheat.
That is what he said. That doesn't mean it's true.
Nothing can be blamed on a psychic....she was a damn grown independent woman who made her choice completely on her own! She may have used the excuse for her murdering husband, but I am not falling for it. There were tons of lies in the case told by the murderer, so he has zero credibility to believe that nonsense!! Even the nonsense of randomly burning a tiki stick for 5 minutes for his 4 year old daughter after arriving back from "dumping bricks" illegally at the dump....also a bunch of nonsense!!
Psychics are very dangerous. Why people trust yhem is beyond me.
weak people believe psychic
Wow. I didn’t hear all of this on the news. Great job with this story.
Looking forward to the second trial. I hope you’re able to cover it. Eric certainly had motive, particularly if he viewed the cell phone evidence!
Which he of course denied doing...
🙆🏾♀️ Which he did get caught iN aH lie about too, lawyer tried to HELP but,☝🏾😌 I caught iT!!! NOTHING but ah 🤏🏾 #LierLierPantsOn 🔥🚒
I@@shanteecoleman8003 It's spelled liar ....
Facts. There's too many lies for this guy to be innocent. His movements that day were very suspicious.
I think the daughter is Jon’s. He HELPED them get pregnant & then continued a years long affair with the wife. If the affair ended 7 months prior why did he just randomly do it ? I think he tested the child & the prosecutors in the second trial should look into that as well.
This is one of those cases where it's hard to feel sympathy for the victim.
rest in pIss, 304
I think we all agree
What is it with all these comments condemning the single man like he was at fault? He was a bachelor who was sleeping with a married woman who obviously didn't value her marriage enough to remain faithful to her husband or to keep the family unit intact for her child. That's not his problem but hers, and it sure as hell doesn't warrant losing his life. Married women get hit on all the time because people aren't mind readers. If she's not committed enough to say "I'm married" and decline someone's advances, then she shouldn't be married. A person lost his life because of an adulterous woman and her unhinged husband. I hope he gets life without parole and rots in jail.
@@francocholo1247Of course it's his problem he was aware of their marriage. That's how he met her in the first place was to help with getting pregnant through some voodoo.Bullshit acupunctured woo woo Chinese medicine Auntie, obviously I had the attention and knowledge 2 be aware of what he was doing, which was messing with a married woman. It doesn't matter if she accepts his jester sorts her if he didn't gesture that nothing would have happened. So you sound like a cheater, yourself? With that mindset
@francocholo1247 because marriage is a legal contract that he knowingly engaged in its violation. In some states the other person outside the marriage can be sued. Also because of the moral and ethical implications in destroying that legal entity. And yes the married party shares the blame. And no he didn't "deserve" death.
Please cover second trial!! You explain everything so well. You get right to the point
Looking doubtful there will be a retrial. Unless new evidence shows up.
I’m born and raised in Hawaii on that island and I applaud your narration and pronunciation. It’s not easy if you’re not from there and you were spot on about everything. This is a very sad and unfortunate story. The mistrial is understandable given the evidence, but I hope they’re able to get the second trial going soon.
Aloha from Hawaii, I work in the area (Waikele fire station) and pass this place every time we go to the storeroom to pick up supplies. I also noticed the narrator not messing up our Hawaiian names!
I’d like them to bring up his wife… I mean the comments on here is 🔥 abt her being the one framing him 😮😮😮
@@AmbuBadgerThey seen to come from Japanese heritage. Is that correct?
This wasn't an open and shut case. No exact DNA match, no fingerprints, no murder weapon, no defendant phone location evidence, alternate explanations for the limited evidence linking him to the crime. Timelines didn't add up. Motive is all they had and even that was questionable.
@@johng4093 wonder if they’ll question the wife… maybe they’re in it together?? 😱
Great channel! Thought indeed... I love how you drive a deliberate and focused pace as you tell your stories. I also love the dignity you afford victims and their families.
This a tragedy but also a lesson. Dudes stay away from married women, either you putting your life in danger or the women. Nothing is scarier for a man who felt like he lost everything.
When someone seems perfect in image, I absolutely assume there something untoward hidden.
Thank you Kevin. This is a great channel. ❤ from Australia ❤
Man, you did your homework, instant sub!
Interestingly acupuncturists screwing around with patients is a major reason the industry was regulated in Canada.
Now if an acu is caught doing this they can lose their license.
Hmm I wonder what's up with these acupuncturists 🤔🤔 is it because clients are half-naked while being treated? Wild that they have to even regulate it like that
@jumpscare1530 it happens across the entire medical industry unfortunately.
@@kongjie74 And at massage parlors, too!
Dammit. When my wife said her acupuncturist was poking her I thought nothing of it.
@@tillitsdone LMAO... comment is gold!!!!! 🏆🥇😂🤣
Another great case covered. That so was intriguing & you told it so well, you’ve got a calm way of speaking, explaining the lead up to the murder then the case, great research & factual information.watching from Sydney Australia
Your channel just popped up and I love it. The scenes of the real event and the way you describe it, got me.
Horrible circumstances. Just horrible. I'm sorry for Eric and the choice he [edit: allegedly] made. Such an amazing life to throw away like that for two people who don't even respect themselves.
What? Sorry for Eric? And who had the amazing life to throw away?
Sorry for Eric 😂😂😂
Agree! Eric might be a murderer but jon see it coming for cheating with someone's wife and joyce no comment.
Just because you can cheated on doesn’t give you a license to kill, his wife wasn’t satisfied with him.
meh Jon was looking for trouble so yeah, poor Eric
It’s great to see this channel growing in popularity. It’s such an excellent professional presentation.
You’re telling me that we have the technology to take clear pictures of outer space but we’re unable to take pictures of a license plate?
Not ever camera is on NASAs budget lol.
He didn't help THEM get pregnant..he helped HER conceive or get pregnant.
When a couple wants to have a baby, the husband will usually state "we want to get pregnant"; not simply "she" wants to get pregnant, as that implies that she is the only one who wants a baby in the marriage and/or partnership.
@@loveforeignaccentshe means the other man impregnated her
The wife is pretty
@@Handlehandlehandle320 I would certainly think sir psycho had had a paternity test done already, dear.
@@Native722 the wife is pretty boneless & only the ' white ' is just that pretty?
Why not just Divorce her! She may have had many more affairs he didn't know or was to too blind to see. The one in the relationship is the homewrecker!!! Can't blame nobody but the person in the relationship!!
I believe he stated on the stand that he would never leave her... not to mention they had recently had a child together.
@@loveforeignaccents
I wonder who the father is
@@jimwerther I think her husband certainly would have gotten a paternity test once he found out about the affair.
They have dated since high school... she was his best friend and family... she f up.
Kids and she is hot
Great video and details about the case. I live in Hawaii and you provided much more detail than the local news.
Once a cheater always a cheater.
Forgiving cheaters is simp behaviour guys.
Run and don't look back.
Your name is soy boy…. Bro you are a cuck.
After this particular experience though, I honestly don't think she will cheat again. Leave him maybe, but never cheat again.
Indeed
Once a cheater, always a repeater
So true 😢😢😢
Why didn’t she just divorce? She is at fault too. I hate cheaters! They hurt not only others but themselves too. Murder should never be an option. This is so tragic. Thanks for this story since I never heard of it. If you know there is ever a chance you will cheat then you shouldn’t ever get married.
His a man.. 👍🏼 of wife come's first and adolescent dignity goes second to third 🙏🏼
Look alike a Dignity of a Sub politician?
My favorite UA-cam crime documentary channel!
Dude, I LIVE for your channel! I have seen every video at least twice! You have the perfect voice and attitude for these types of documentaries. Really am a big fan! Much love and respect from your friends/fans here in Cleveland, OH!
Ah man, thank you so much! Glad you’re enjoying what we’re putting out there. Appreciate the support too!
Very interesting case, excellent narrative and video images. Great job.
47 year old unmarried man messing with married women, I'm sure that once they are divorced he loses interest he's looking for the excitement of an illicit relationship. In my opinion he had it coming
Eric and Joyce walking out of the courthouse together is so odd. She is a lying cheater and he's a control freak. Their relationship will not have a happy ending and is silly for them to put on a front like it will. And as others have said, Eric should get a DNA test for their child in case Jon really did a lot more helping in Joyce getting pregnant.
Well if the husband found out if Jon was the father she might be killed too tho.
some men believe in their marriage vows
@@clayton56tube And men that believe in marriage vows are one in millions, and they deserve an applause.
Eric not only believes the marriage vows but also fully enforced it. He's got balls.
It's their decision to make, and typically outsiders only see 1% of what goes on in other people's relationships.
Really enjoy your videos. I believe 100% he did it. What are the chances of narrowing done the trucks to one and that owners wife just happened to have had an affair with the victim? But without a "smoking gun" I think they will have a hard time getting an entire jury to agree on guilty.
Apparently there's no tracking or logging software in those vehicles. I thought most had it these days. Remember how crucial it was in the Murdaugh case.
This case isn’t over yet???
I believe it was the wife who did it.
Jon liked risky behavior, affairs with married women, probably addicted to the excitement, similar to his illegal gambling. He chose the life that led to these results.
Wow this was a great show. You deserve a million subs. Great job
Another excellent video JTL! Your channel is always a notch above everyone else’s. Great quality content. Much love 💕
They dated for 13 years.. Eric knew he had no business marrying this woman, and all her behaviors proved him right. If only he listened and not married her all this could’ve been avoided.
yup 👍🏼 the marriage is just a social binding for portraying social dignity & racial privileges
But mix modern culture is what I wouldn't hv in mind 👍🏼
All is needed was a simple devorse but never came to lights 🙏🏼
He chooses dignity ego centric & shambles like an attitude mask, significantly showing his not a ' family men ' but more of a Luxury Monger's & not an adolescent caregiver 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
They are trauma bonding hard as people who met while they were really young
married ppl, stop acting single. single ppl, leave the married alone.
While I see it was highly like he killed Jon, there was definitely reasonable doubt.
I don’t think they’ll prove guilty unless they switch up and get better or more solid evidence.
@@FreddieK-h1u wrong... coincidences don't happen like that. What are the chances the exact truck was owned by his ex-lover's husband? The only truck they couldn't rule out? And the timing was impeccable? Let alone dude starts a fire in the backyard that night, leaves with a toolbox, and says he dumped bricks which both isn't allowed & not in the bed of the truck? I don't see any reasonable doubt.
@@TIMTIMEdits you obviously have never watched cases with such evidence that turn out to be coincidences. happens fairly often. not saying this guy is innocent but there are cases where innocent have been convicted on these coincidences
@@cheery-hex do you even know what the odds would be for the ONLY TRUCK with 3 letters and 3 numbers in the same make and model and the only one unaccounted for in all of Hawaii would happen to be owned by the husband of his ex-lover? I mean those odds must be ASTRONOMICAL.
@@TIMTIMEdits the issue that there are "ODDS" is the reason why there is reasonable doubt and could not convict.
@@rachelmoore1991 that's doesn't sound as smart as you think it does. There are odds in DNA, in the hundreds of millions... even then, DNA is considered perfect, even with odds.
Thanks Kevin! Best vibes to you and yours 🙂
No music. Just the facts. I like that.
I love this channel and yr voice is soooo soothing, hello from New Zealand xx
Another great and well researched delivery. Thank you.❤
no sympathy for the victim. if he was alive, can they convict him for adultery? i dont think so! he just ruined 3 families already
Might be more than 3. It’s just those 3 are called to stand.
Maybe it’s someone else who saw the opportunity.
yeah kev that smile at the end, u know u outdid yourself on this one ! bravo. i just became a bonafide member. took a bit of time. had ta get muh money right, muh money right muh money right. :D
Thanks for another great video. I don't understand why you don't have more subscribers. You are as good, if not better, than the others in your genre who have over a million!
The thing is most of those other channels who have over a million subs don't even tend to get half the views from their total sub count. This channel grows quite substantially from week to week and will eventually be at a million or more anyhow.