I really wish they'd do higher level campaigns with several new and old npcs, romances, that take part after the main campaign and are important and compelling spinoffs of the main storyline, not just a bunch of puzzles and disconnected stories like the first DLC.
As much time as I have spent playing WotR I give two massive thumbs up for Owlcat continuing the story. I have played WotR hundreds of hours (Steam says close to 2,000 hours but I know the vast majority of that is AFK or pausing to do X and then falling asleep.) and have only created a character in Kingmaker. I grew up on BG I & II, Windy Dale (as me and my friends called it) and Planescape: Torment during my teens and early adult years. I didn't think they still made games this good but then I stumbled upon Divinity 2, which got me to download BG 3, which in turn, having watched so many videos, had to check out Kingmaker but then the much bigger and, more importantly, you can be a lich so I ended up owning both and playing WotR first. So I'm excited I still have an entire Kingmaker to discover. May your growth be exponential.
It absolutely could be personal preference, but I have found Kingmaker rather dull in its characterization and role-playing options, especially compared to WotR, which is better in every conceivable regard. The party members are dime-a-dozen either personality- or mechanic-wise and most of their personal quests -albeit interesting- stick out of the main narrative too much. Do not even get me start on the setting: woods and caves - riveting stuff.
To be honest, after playing WOTR, kingmaker just feels like clunky. I think the setting is fascinating but the game itself shows how far owlcat has come after the kingmaker
Interesting that this will be getting a second season pass, I wonder if we will be getting that around the rumored Enhanced Edition release. Great review as always man.
As someone who has run the adventure path multiple times (including covering it to 5e), Owlcat has already substantially altered the original adventure path (for the better!). If their agreement with Paizo gives them the leeway to do what they've already done, then it has a lot of room for them to adapt more content. There are a significant number of hooks and parts of the AP that they could expand on to do more. Plus they've shown they can actually improve on the source material so I don't think the IP is going to be the limiting factor. More content is all going to come down to sales.
They actually have the rights for i thing 4 to 6 games, plus all the dls. Theres a place where they talk about it. Thats why i think and want Rise of the runelords, becouse its massive, cool, and has room for mythic powers. I dont think i can have fun without mythic. It makes some stuff so fucking cool to play.
Sorry to inject myself into a tangent based on your comment, but can you tell me more about converting wrath of the righteous to 5e? I would love to share this story with my 5e group. Was it hard to convert? (I've never done something like that)
@@vcdarkin Well if you know both system are easy. But if you dont i guess you can wait becouse paizo will convert their stuff into D&D5. Its kinda a recent announcement but soon some of their modules and they are great will be officialy converted.
@@ArantyrDarkhand I do know both systems quite well (as a player) but haven't really built balanced encounters before as a DM - somewhat stepping into that role pretty freshly as I attempt to relieve our "forever DM". But that is fantastic news I seemed to have missed about the official conversions. Thank you for the heads up! I'll look into it :)
Wow! I do XP the same way in my own tabletop: The party specifically gains XP and levels by discovering / accomplishing things. It definitely moves the mentality away from the "Violence is Advancement" mindset.
I really enjoyed this one, I honestly wish that the first chapter of the main campaign felt more like this. Would have made the mythic ascension feel really... well mythic.
i've yet to jump into this but it sounds pretty fun, the low-level parts of these games before your party's super well-defined and powerful always end up being my favorite anyway milestone xp sounds like a wonderful idea too, there was already a hint of milestone progression in the base-game with mythic paths but i'm partial to milestones over xp whenever i see it because it allows for better roleplay than just 'kill everything for optimal xp gains'
Congrats on hitting 50k! I was already cautiously optimistic about this DLC but you’ve gotten me pumped as this sounds exactly like what I was hoping it would be.
I'm so happy there doing low lvl dlc almost every game just keeps going with the main campaign. It is a nice change that let's you see what's going on from other ppl in the world to give depth .. love it!!!
This sounds great. I haven't actually played WotR yet - I sunk well over 200 hours into Kingmaker and loved it. I'm waiting a couple of weeks until I have some more time to spare before starting the main WotR campaign and I can't wait.
Watching this a little over a year later so all the talk about bugs and hopeful patches are 🤞 not something I need to worry about as much. But to hear at the end of the vid that at the time of filming, you hit your 50k milestone and to see that you are at 202k subs now.. bravo friend 👏👏 good on ya
I feel conflicted - on the one hand I really enjoy how true to its vision this series appears to be, but on the other, I find myself bouncing off of the character build options in the Pathfinder games. I feel genuinely overwhelmed when it comes to that aspect. Eventually I'll really have to dig in and work my way through a couple guides or something...
The way you're describing this DLC sounds incredible. Honestly, I'd rather play this than the main campaign. I don't own the game yet, but that's because I want a more Larian-style game than another classic Bioware / Black Isle game I played over 20 years ago. I think turn-based would benefit from this mode the way you describe it, and that makes the game more tactical to me. I don't like playing RTSs anymore as I've aged up.
This was a neat idea, and while I prefer easier, I do like that it forced me out of my comfort zone near the end, as the first two times you have the option to get around something, the difficulty at minimum means that you CAN win with minimal prep time. But that last boss just before the Heart? No, you need to do as much as possible, and really take full advantage of the forced rest point just beforehand to give you as many bonuses as possible. I will say, I'm one of those who would have liked more stuff from the DLC to show up, as it is, you get cameos from anyone who survives in the Heart just before the attack, and afterwards you get a special rod that can be found nowhere else in the game. Those are good, but not great, and worst of all, that ending is referenced by Ira, but only vaguely, and mostly in a 'come back later to deal with this problem' sort of thing. Of course, as a story in and of itself, I like it. The unique way it does stats, taking away a few points so you can't grow quite as strong, and limiting the levels makes sense...again I played on easy, and while the first time through I did the defaults, after that I picked 4 classes for my pc and randos that gave Animal Companions, which gave not only more carrying capacity, but also isn't as reliant on equipment, creating a block of four ranged combatants(1 magic, 3 ranged), and mostly letting the other two do whatever they wanted. Fun times.
I hope they go to Milestone Exp. As most DMs will tell you, it's just a much easier way to handle tabletop rpgs (and crpgs). It encourages larger goals, get to the Tavern, save the King, find the murderer, etc etc. I also prefer it when I DM. While I am all for hard challenges and rewards, I always think gear serves a better purpose than exp. Let Exp remain for major accomplishments.
I preferred it for tabletop for sure. Video games would probably be better off presenting it as a choice between one or the other (Underrail for example)
Thanks for the review as always. It was very helpful. I didn't know anything about second season pass or anything. I was waiting for all the dlcs to play a serious playthrough but I will wait a bit more and play all the unfinished rpgs.
Did they ever fix the bug that allows sohei's flurry of blow to work with any weapon even if you don't have weapon training? Because monk seem pretty nice for this DLC. xD
Hey man, please make a video about importing your decisions from this dlc to the main campaign, that's what I believe most people are interested in knowing. Thanks!
@@karlklein2263 Nice, I'll try it out sometime, I tried Divinity original sin but my computers all screwed up, think the graphics card is dying because the colours that were red/yellow became bleu and vice versa, I need a new pc lel.
@@meowmeowmcpurrington2480 RoTR its the best CRPG of modernity by a huge margin. Play pillars of eternity too... its good but not ROTR level, but the world they created its incredible intresting.
I like when you start these games as a sort of normal person. My problem with the main WotR plot is that way too high level stuff hapoens too quickly and you become special in the tutorial
I always liked these type of stories where you aren't the chosen one BUT the story is a DLC or a separate expansion. The recent RE series does this well, and always a better IF we get to see the MC from the main story from a different POV.
This is basically the Wrath equivalent of Varnhold's Lot. Unfortunately I've never gotten close to finishing Wrath since my favorite playstyle is a bit lackluster. Heavy Armor has lower AC and a bunch of other issues and unlike Kingmaker the bonus abilities just aren't enough to make up for the benefits from dropping a few mythic or multiclass choices. Vek has made a mod that among other things adds abilities to boost heavy armor but I just don't want to play a mod.
Well, that was fast! But not unexpected since it's you! I do wonder about those next dlcs, are they going to be separate playthroughs like those released so far? Because I prefer their more standalone format, so it doesn't force another playthrough of the main game (like, for example, introducing some content that is only available in main game mid-campaign, I wouldn't like this).
Mortim, please give us more content for this DLC. Maybe build outlines (not full guides) for main characters that would work well for this new game play mode (brawlers, unarmed monks, warcasters, summoners perhaps?).
Having an animal companion helps immensely in the first two chapters, since the animal doesn't need gear to be useful, it can also act as your frontliner. I went mad dog barb with a bear companion and didn't have any trouble (played on normal). Heck, you could probably give animals to all 4 customizable party members and breeze through the whole thing on any difficulty under core.
nice review bro, since you are very knowledgeable in the genre of crpgs what if you do a tier list video of all the crpgs that you had played? could be a good idea for a video 😁
I don't know. I really like the main game but the dlcs so far are a big miss for me. The first one felt hollow and unnecessary and this one seems even more off than the previous. And in the beginning when I saw another puzzle right in the beginning of the dlc i rolled my eyes really hard. Maybe I just don't like these type of dlcs that don't bring anything new to the main story. I really hope that the endless dungeon dlc will make things better, but more story content to the main campaign would be really welcomed in the future.
Thought this campaign was unique and interesting. The cliffhanger absolutely pissed me off. I wish this campaign connected back with the main campaign like you started at the Inn.
I haven’t played the main game yet. Do you think it would be a good idea to start with this DLC first and than start the main campaign ? Will it have any influence on the main campaign?
I think I'll wait till sale. I wanted to get it but the bugs as you mentioned, otherwise I'm totally on board. Perhaps that will give them some time to fix a few of those bugs while the sale comes up.
Through The Ashes, takes place alongside Act 1, Inevitable Excess happens right before the end of the game, and Midnight Isles is integrated across the main campaign in act 3-5
Having just completed the DLC on unfair, I felt that the balancing in the DLC was *miles* better than the main campaign. It was completely doable with a sane amount of buffs, while still feeling challenging. I really wish the difficulty curve would be ported to the main campaign, e.g. an easier start and a harder end. It really feels like the main campaign is balanced around 'ok, so you're going to have mythic powers', which you don't have until like L7+, making the first 7 levels kind of torture.
Builds: Mc- 1 Scaled fist 1 oracle (nature whisper) 1 rowdy (lvl 3 feat improv. sneak). Or Quarterstaff master into rowdy. Zen archer merc max wis low dex high str8. Also Stigmatized witch with brurning hands for swarms and protective luck +cackle
You didn't comment on the ability point reduction? i see that there is only 15 points now while it was 25 for the main campaign. Thought it was a result of the new DLC try to emulate that this is ordinary people struggling. But its the same for the main campaign now. what am i missing? what led to the reduction? Bug? havent seen anyone comment on it that makes it even more strange.
It's just for the DLC, if you see it on the main campaign its a bug for sure. Try restarting the game. It's just supposed to make you feel like an average person for the DLC
Does someone know why my PC may be shutting down while playing the game? Is someone experiencing something similar? I started having this problem about 2 months ago. This is the only game I am having this problem
DLC sounds coo,. will wait a bit so they can clear out he buggs. got enough to do RL so i'l wait a bit then. playing differently then just always choose to battle is also an underrated side of D&D style of games. sadly the focus has gotten more and more about just straight combat but not about more interesting wawys to deal with things like the pillars at the pillars of estaroth or something (first place you meet greybor)
I have fundamentally nothing against them trying to dish out these extra stories. What I don't like is that they're jumping to these projects leaving their previous ones stil bug-ridden.
Keep in mind that the bug-fixers and the DLC builders are not necessarily the same teams. While the bug-fixers are trying to fix the engine, the artists, designers, writers, map-builders, and so on still need something to do. Even if bugs haven't been fixed, the rest of the team is going to be producing content.
@@Alister222222 I'm not debating that. I just don't like it that they jump from project to project without actually finishing them. Just my opinion at this point. While they might still be bug-fixing Wrath of the Righteous, Kingmaker still has bugs so that game was abandoned altogether.
Shame it's only part of the story. I don't really like episodic stuff that makes me wait half a year for the next part because by then I've forgotten the smaller details that let me appreciate the story better.
Yeah I’m skipping on this I really don’t like the dlcs that are completely separate from the main game and protagonist, it looks fun but definitely not for me.
Does the army management still suck? I loved the first one UNTIL I became a Baron and then I hated the management stuff so much it ruined the game for me, same with WOTR. It's a shame because I love everything else about the game but those shitty army bits are total dealbreakers for me.
Since when you cant tell anything about companions? You spoiled all companions in beta before game released for base game. We just want to know their class, alignment, and general backstory
This was an awful, awful slog. Terrible combat AI and bad encounter design is largely covered by the power of builds in the main game and not so bad by mid levels since you can ressurect people and cure most afflictions fairly easily. This campaign is a good idea, poorly executed and frankly inappropriate for a CRPG with no DM.
It sucks and I hate it. Playing on core, the gritty and realistic aspects are ruined by the fact that every enemy has some bullshit like poison attacks that ruin your characters chance of survival by destroying their strength and dexterity or damage resistance, which is subtractive and often reduces your damage to 0 because of your shitty weapons
Disappointing. Even the voiceless cinematic at the beginning the of the game is awkward and makes the content seem unfinished. Seriously, if these were the DLC content they are releasing for the game, people aren't going to buy season pass 2.
I really wish they'd do higher level campaigns with several new and old npcs, romances, that take part after the main campaign and are important and compelling spinoffs of the main storyline, not just a bunch of puzzles and disconnected stories like the first DLC.
As much time as I have spent playing WotR I give two massive thumbs up for Owlcat continuing the story. I have played WotR hundreds of hours (Steam says close to 2,000 hours but I know the vast majority of that is AFK or pausing to do X and then falling asleep.) and have only created a character in Kingmaker. I grew up on BG I & II, Windy Dale (as me and my friends called it) and Planescape: Torment during my teens and early adult years. I didn't think they still made games this good but then I stumbled upon Divinity 2, which got me to download BG 3, which in turn, having watched so many videos, had to check out Kingmaker but then the much bigger and, more importantly, you can be a lich so I ended up owning both and playing WotR first. So I'm excited I still have an entire Kingmaker to discover.
May your growth be exponential.
It absolutely could be personal preference, but I have found Kingmaker rather dull in its characterization and role-playing options, especially compared to WotR, which is better in every conceivable regard. The party members are dime-a-dozen either personality- or mechanic-wise and most of their personal quests -albeit interesting- stick out of the main narrative too much. Do not even get me start on the setting: woods and caves - riveting stuff.
I am not the only one afk-sleeping 🤣🎉 I am also near to 2000 hours
To be honest, after playing WOTR, kingmaker just feels like clunky. I think the setting is fascinating but the game itself shows how far owlcat has come after the kingmaker
Interesting that this will be getting a second season pass, I wonder if we will be getting that around the rumored Enhanced Edition release. Great review as always man.
I wonder what the enhanced edition would entail tbh, tweaks to things like crusade system, or stuff like additional voice acting perhaps?
The EE is coming. Owlcat unveiled it in the same interview in which they announced the second season pass.
@@Nergalsama01 ahh, I didn't know it was in the interview, thanks for the heads up.
@@Dermetsu No problem. There's gonna be a lot more content for this game in the future, that's for sure
As someone who has run the adventure path multiple times (including covering it to 5e), Owlcat has already substantially altered the original adventure path (for the better!). If their agreement with Paizo gives them the leeway to do what they've already done, then it has a lot of room for them to adapt more content. There are a significant number of hooks and parts of the AP that they could expand on to do more. Plus they've shown they can actually improve on the source material so I don't think the IP is going to be the limiting factor. More content is all going to come down to sales.
They actually have the rights for i thing 4 to 6 games, plus all the dls.
Theres a place where they talk about it. Thats why i think and want Rise of the runelords, becouse its massive, cool, and has room for mythic powers.
I dont think i can have fun without mythic. It makes some stuff so fucking cool to play.
Sorry to inject myself into a tangent based on your comment, but can you tell me more about converting wrath of the righteous to 5e? I would love to share this story with my 5e group. Was it hard to convert? (I've never done something like that)
@@vcdarkin Well if you know both system are easy. But if you dont i guess you can wait becouse paizo will convert their stuff into D&D5. Its kinda a recent announcement but soon some of their modules and they are great will be officialy converted.
@@ArantyrDarkhand I do know both systems quite well (as a player) but haven't really built balanced encounters before as a DM - somewhat stepping into that role pretty freshly as I attempt to relieve our "forever DM". But that is fantastic news I seemed to have missed about the official conversions. Thank you for the heads up! I'll look into it :)
@@ArantyrDarkhand I hadn't heard this either, great news as I'd love to play Rise of the Runelords with my 5e group!
Wow! I do XP the same way in my own tabletop:
The party specifically gains XP and levels by discovering / accomplishing things. It definitely moves the mentality away from the "Violence is Advancement" mindset.
I really enjoyed this one, I honestly wish that the first chapter of the main campaign felt more like this. Would have made the mythic ascension feel really... well mythic.
That's just not possible with the mythic pb, unless you just don't know how to play the game
i've yet to jump into this but it sounds pretty fun, the low-level parts of these games before your party's super well-defined and powerful always end up being my favorite anyway
milestone xp sounds like a wonderful idea too, there was already a hint of milestone progression in the base-game with mythic paths but i'm partial to milestones over xp whenever i see it because it allows for better roleplay than just 'kill everything for optimal xp gains'
Congrats on hitting 50k! I was already cautiously optimistic about this DLC but you’ve gotten me pumped as this sounds exactly like what I was hoping it would be.
I'm so happy there doing low lvl dlc almost every game just keeps going with the main campaign. It is a nice change that let's you see what's going on from other ppl in the world to give depth .. love it!!!
This was better than inevitable excess by a mile. My maxed out characters blew through it I never finished it out of boredom
This sounds great. I haven't actually played WotR yet - I sunk well over 200 hours into Kingmaker and loved it. I'm waiting a couple of weeks until I have some more time to spare before starting the main WotR campaign and I can't wait.
Watching this a little over a year later so all the talk about bugs and hopeful patches are 🤞 not something I need to worry about as much. But to hear at the end of the vid that at the time of filming, you hit your 50k milestone and to see that you are at 202k subs now.. bravo friend 👏👏 good on ya
This is a really cool idea for a CRPG short story.
Can't comment on the execution given that I haven't played it though.
I feel conflicted - on the one hand I really enjoy how true to its vision this series appears to be, but on the other, I find myself bouncing off of the character build options in the Pathfinder games. I feel genuinely overwhelmed when it comes to that aspect. Eventually I'll really have to dig in and work my way through a couple guides or something...
The way you're describing this DLC sounds incredible. Honestly, I'd rather play this than the main campaign. I don't own the game yet, but that's because I want a more Larian-style game than another classic Bioware / Black Isle game I played over 20 years ago.
I think turn-based would benefit from this mode the way you describe it, and that makes the game more tactical to me. I don't like playing RTSs anymore as I've aged up.
Will have to check this out! And as always, great review!
This was a neat idea, and while I prefer easier, I do like that it forced me out of my comfort zone near the end, as the first two times you have the option to get around something, the difficulty at minimum means that you CAN win with minimal prep time. But that last boss just before the Heart? No, you need to do as much as possible, and really take full advantage of the forced rest point just beforehand to give you as many bonuses as possible.
I will say, I'm one of those who would have liked more stuff from the DLC to show up, as it is, you get cameos from anyone who survives in the Heart just before the attack, and afterwards you get a special rod that can be found nowhere else in the game. Those are good, but not great, and worst of all, that ending is referenced by Ira, but only vaguely, and mostly in a 'come back later to deal with this problem' sort of thing.
Of course, as a story in and of itself, I like it. The unique way it does stats, taking away a few points so you can't grow quite as strong, and limiting the levels makes sense...again I played on easy, and while the first time through I did the defaults, after that I picked 4 classes for my pc and randos that gave Animal Companions, which gave not only more carrying capacity, but also isn't as reliant on equipment, creating a block of four ranged combatants(1 magic, 3 ranged), and mostly letting the other two do whatever they wanted. Fun times.
I hope they go to Milestone Exp. As most DMs will tell you, it's just a much easier way to handle tabletop rpgs (and crpgs). It encourages larger goals, get to the Tavern, save the King, find the murderer, etc etc. I also prefer it when I DM. While I am all for hard challenges and rewards, I always think gear serves a better purpose than exp. Let Exp remain for major accomplishments.
I preferred it for tabletop for sure. Video games would probably be better off presenting it as a choice between one or the other (Underrail for example)
Lord Bale: No, but if you fail me in this...
Sindri: Yes, yes then my suffering will be great. Just be ready to move when I instruct.
We should take away their metal bawkses!
Thanks for the review as always. It was very helpful. I didn't know anything about second season pass or anything. I was waiting for all the dlcs to play a serious playthrough but I will wait a bit more and play all the unfinished rpgs.
Did they ever fix the bug that allows sohei's flurry of blow to work with any weapon even if you don't have weapon training? Because monk seem pretty nice for this DLC. xD
Hey man, please make a video about importing your decisions from this dlc to the main campaign, that's what I believe most people are interested in knowing. Thanks!
Sunday
Didn't know owlcat was planning on a round 2 of dlc. RotR really does feel like the "baldurs gate 2" of this generation
I've plae'd old CRPGs like BG1 and 2 among many others but haven't plae'd modern CRPGS, which would you recommend?
@@meowmeowmcpurrington2480 easily. Probably a top 5 GOAT for me.
@@karlklein2263 Nice, I'll try it out sometime, I tried Divinity original sin but my computers all screwed up, think the graphics card is dying because the colours that were red/yellow became bleu and vice versa, I need a new pc lel.
@@meowmeowmcpurrington2480 RoTR its the best CRPG of modernity by a huge margin.
Play pillars of eternity too... its good but not ROTR level, but the world they created its incredible intresting.
@@ArantyrDarkhand Ight thanks Bruv
I like when you start these games as a sort of normal person.
My problem with the main WotR plot is that way too high level stuff hapoens too quickly and you become special in the tutorial
I always liked these type of stories where you aren't the chosen one BUT the story is a DLC or a separate expansion. The recent RE series does this well, and always a better IF we get to see the MC from the main story from a different POV.
I'm glad this is separate from the main campaign. I really enjoyed the main campaign but I also wanted something shorter to enjoy along side it.
This is basically the Wrath equivalent of Varnhold's Lot. Unfortunately I've never gotten close to finishing Wrath since my favorite playstyle is a bit lackluster. Heavy Armor has lower AC and a bunch of other issues and unlike Kingmaker the bonus abilities just aren't enough to make up for the benefits from dropping a few mythic or multiclass choices. Vek has made a mod that among other things adds abilities to boost heavy armor but I just don't want to play a mod.
Well, that was fast! But not unexpected since it's you! I do wonder about those next dlcs, are they going to be separate playthroughs like those released so far? Because I prefer their more standalone format, so it doesn't force another playthrough of the main game (like, for example, introducing some content that is only available in main game mid-campaign, I wouldn't like this).
I just bought DOS 2 a few days ago. Once I finish that I might hop into this
'Hell yeah, sounds good.
Very cool thanks for the great work Sir
Mortim, please give us more content for this DLC. Maybe build outlines (not full guides) for main characters that would work well for this new game play mode (brawlers, unarmed monks, warcasters, summoners perhaps?).
Having an animal companion helps immensely in the first two chapters, since the animal doesn't need gear to be useful, it can also act as your frontliner. I went mad dog barb with a bear companion and didn't have any trouble (played on normal).
Heck, you could probably give animals to all 4 customizable party members and breeze through the whole thing on any difficulty under core.
Can you play this DLC first and then roll your main character into the main game? Or is this a purely standalone module?
nice review bro, since you are very knowledgeable in the genre of crpgs what if you do a tier list video of all the crpgs that you had played? could be a good idea for a video 😁
I don't know. I really like the main game but the dlcs so far are a big miss for me. The first one felt hollow and unnecessary and this one seems even more off than the previous. And in the beginning when I saw another puzzle right in the beginning of the dlc i rolled my eyes really hard. Maybe I just don't like these type of dlcs that don't bring anything new to the main story. I really hope that the endless dungeon dlc will make things better, but more story content to the main campaign would be really welcomed in the future.
I love the concept !
Thought this campaign was unique and interesting. The cliffhanger absolutely pissed me off. I wish this campaign connected back with the main campaign like you started at the Inn.
Gelatinous Cubes. Aka, Dungeon Roombas!
Story mode for the win!!
I haven’t played the main game yet. Do you think it would be a good idea to start with this DLC first and than start the main campaign ? Will it have any influence on the main campaign?
Minor stuff in Act 1, your choice, its not super necessary
@@MortismalGaming What would you recommend as a starting class for this DLC? I havent played Pathfinder yet.
I think I'll wait till sale. I wanted to get it but the bugs as you mentioned, otherwise I'm totally on board. Perhaps that will give them some time to fix a few of those bugs while the sale comes up.
New to the game and I’m trying to figure out when I should be playing the dlcs. Any advice?
Through The Ashes, takes place alongside Act 1, Inevitable Excess happens right before the end of the game, and Midnight Isles is integrated across the main campaign in act 3-5
Having just completed the DLC on unfair, I felt that the balancing in the DLC was *miles* better than the main campaign. It was completely doable with a sane amount of buffs, while still feeling challenging. I really wish the difficulty curve would be ported to the main campaign, e.g. an easier start and a harder end. It really feels like the main campaign is balanced around 'ok, so you're going to have mythic powers', which you don't have until like L7+, making the first 7 levels kind of torture.
I'm honestly just waiting for the dungeon rogue-like mode.
Builds: Mc- 1 Scaled fist 1 oracle (nature whisper) 1 rowdy (lvl 3 feat improv. sneak). Or Quarterstaff master into rowdy. Zen archer merc max wis low dex high str8. Also Stigmatized witch with brurning hands for swarms and protective luck +cackle
Low level gameplay is the most interesting imo, I might like this one!
This dlc sounds brilliant
Tried playing this yesterday without looking into it at all. Made an Aldori Defender for my main 🤦🤦🤦🤦
You didn't comment on the ability point reduction? i see that there is only 15 points now while it was 25 for the main campaign. Thought it was a result of the new DLC try to emulate that this is ordinary people struggling. But its the same for the main campaign now. what am i missing? what led to the reduction? Bug? havent seen anyone comment on it that makes it even more strange.
It's just for the DLC, if you see it on the main campaign its a bug for sure. Try restarting the game. It's just supposed to make you feel like an average person for the DLC
Dammit now I gotta spend money. This looks fun
*Runs off to download Through The Ashes*
i really wish you could import your mc from this dlc to your main campaing, that would be awesome
Can this DLC be used as an alternate beginning to the game and then merge into the original game?
Not really, you're still gonna have to playthrough the same stuff in the main campaign
So this story is outside of the main campaign? You cannot "use" these companions in main campaign?
@@ScorpionP2C ehhh, not for me then...
Please owlcat more content for us after finishing campaign. Just more high level content
2nd season pass? Maybe the Devil will get some low after all.
puts in perspective the sheer scale of our character in the normal campaign. I like it
Does completely this DLC have any benefits to the main campaign?
Some small stuff, I'll have a video up about it Sunday morning
It was too short… as soon as I got warm, it ended.
Does someone know why my PC may be shutting down while playing the game? Is someone experiencing something similar? I started having this problem about 2 months ago. This is the only game I am having this problem
I am curious about what happens in Kanabres while we were underground and how others survived.
tell me how it bleeds in and when i can except it to kick in
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Any reason the resting is so Broken in this DLC, why does it take 3 days? doesn't make it enjoyable when you get stage 1 corruption off one rest
DLC sounds coo,. will wait a bit so they can clear out he buggs. got enough to do RL so i'l wait a bit then. playing differently then just always choose to battle is also an underrated side of D&D style of games. sadly the focus has gotten more and more about just straight combat but not about more interesting wawys to deal with things like the pillars at the pillars of estaroth or something (first place you meet greybor)
I have fundamentally nothing against them trying to dish out these extra stories. What I don't like is that they're jumping to these projects leaving their previous ones stil bug-ridden.
Keep in mind that the bug-fixers and the DLC builders are not necessarily the same teams. While the bug-fixers are trying to fix the engine, the artists, designers, writers, map-builders, and so on still need something to do. Even if bugs haven't been fixed, the rest of the team is going to be producing content.
@@Alister222222 I'm not debating that. I just don't like it that they jump from project to project without actually finishing them. Just my opinion at this point. While they might still be bug-fixing Wrath of the Righteous, Kingmaker still has bugs so that game was abandoned altogether.
Shame it's only part of the story. I don't really like episodic stuff that makes me wait half a year for the next part because by then I've forgotten the smaller details that let me appreciate the story better.
I don't think there is a next part to this one, it's a ragtag group of laymen just trying to get through the first chapter of the main game.
Yeah I’m skipping on this I really don’t like the dlcs that are completely separate from the main game and protagonist, it looks fun but definitely not for me.
I just can’t get past the constant buff up phase you have to do in this game…
I am seriously not enjoying this DLC. It is nightmare to play on core difficulty
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I missed your stream. Stupid work..
I played WotR for over 100 hours but never actually finished the story. This looks super interesting though 😂
Does the army management still suck? I loved the first one UNTIL I became a Baron and then I hated the management stuff so much it ruined the game for me, same with WOTR. It's a shame because I love everything else about the game but those shitty army bits are total dealbreakers for me.
Since when you cant tell anything about companions? You spoiled all companions in beta before game released for base game. We just want to know their class, alignment, and general backstory
Making game hard on purpose sounds a bad idea for dlc
I am disappointed that instead of adding more quests and other content to Act 5 and Ending they do this.
They said they were gonna revamp the act 5 with the Enhanced Edition, adding more meat to it apparently
@@thomasneal9291 They said it would be free if you already own the game
This was an awful, awful slog. Terrible combat AI and bad encounter design is largely covered by the power of builds in the main game and not so bad by mid levels since you can ressurect people and cure most afflictions fairly easily.
This campaign is a good idea, poorly executed and frankly inappropriate for a CRPG with no DM.
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It sucks and I hate it. Playing on core, the gritty and realistic aspects are ruined by the fact that every enemy has some bullshit like poison attacks that ruin your characters chance of survival by destroying their strength and dexterity or damage resistance, which is subtractive and often reduces your damage to 0 because of your shitty weapons
Disappointing. Even the voiceless cinematic at the beginning the of the game is awkward and makes the content seem unfinished. Seriously, if these were the DLC content they are releasing for the game, people aren't going to buy season pass 2.