NEW Spitfire Symphonic Orchestra - Full Tutorial
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
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Spitfire Audio have relaunched their flagship symphonic orchestra libraries at an astonishingly low price - £499 for a collection of libraries that once cost thousands. At the same time we at ThinkSpace Education have re-released one of our most popular courses, Cinematic Orchestration at a new super low introductory price of £79! Today, Guy shows you how to orchestrate a classic cinematic orchestral climax while putting the newly relaunched libraries through their paces.
So watch this if you want to know:
• What Spitfire’s new Symphonic Orchestra collection sounds like
• How to orchestrate emotive cinematic climaxes
• Techniques for blending and layering instruments
Spitfire Symphonic Orchestra
www.spitfireaudio.com/spitfir...
0:00 Start
2:28. Building a quick SSO template
4:20. The new Performance patches
6:00. Writing the theme
7:35 Opening phrase - woodwinds
8:45 Strings
10:45 Brass
22:20 Layering brass
32:00 Percussion
33:20 Harp glissandi
37:30 The finished piece
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OUT NOW: A classic returns. Cinematic Orchestration: Legacy: thinkspace.ac.uk/courses/cinematic-orchestration/
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My favorite aspect about Spitfire plugins is HOW THEIR LIBRARIES CONSTANTLY DE-AUTHORIZE THEMSELVES AND REQUIRE A CONSTANT INTERNET CONNECTION TO WORK!!!
YAYYYYYYYYYYY SOOOOOO
COOOOOOOOLLLLLLL
@@ghfjfghjasdfasdfodd. Never had that problem...how many computers are you using them on?
@@ghfjfghjasdfasdf I hav e that with Labs but no the others - this is Kontakt 7 though :)
i bought this plugin but it isn't through kontakt, how did you manage that?
@@ThinkSpaceEducation
If you've never been up close and personal, being inside an orchestra is one of the most thrilling musical experiences you can imagine
oh my,,,as always Guy, than for a lovely video,,,it looks and sounds amazing,,,when i'm feeling down, as i often do, i just lie on my bed and let your vids play, just to hear the sounds and imagine...our side of the planet, for most of us here, we will never be as lucky...thank goodness for UA-cam...and your happy videos..i've followed your journey for a while now Guy, wonderful work...so THANK YOU for giving us a taste of the good life...regards from Durban South Africa...Steve Shooter
Dont be sorry for doing the video a bit longer Guy, every second “spend” with you like this is precious, thank you! 😁
thank you
Long time fan and student here. I've said this before, but you are so incredibly inspiring. You make orchestration look like child's play. I always learn something watching your videos. Often it's the tiniest subtleties that make all the difference, like blending articulations to produce a more impactful sound. I sincerely appreciate your generosity in providing these videos to the unworthy masses. Thank you. Regarding the new Spitfire library...holy cow. I was surprised and a bit confused to receive an email yesterday saying I owned this new library. I didn't see this coming and I'm just blown away. This is an astounding value and I love the new interface and programming. They truly breathed new life into these classic, beloved libraries. Amazing.
thank you
Always a joy looking at him doing his beautiful thing!
When I saw the email about this release my jaw dropped. I already have Symphonic Pro but the redesigned legatos and inclusion of ALL THOSE PERFORMANCE PATCHES… it was an exciting morning.
Many thanks for your tutorials and especially this one. To see your workflow has helped me a lot in using libraries. Thanks.
Great job, Guy. I was surprised to find yesterday that I had a free version of this retooled library coming my way. You've now inspired me to get busy and write something just utilizing this library.
happy days
I've got a lot of Spitfire libraries but always stopped short of the Symphonic series because I just couldn't justify the price for a hobbyist. I told myself fairly firmly: I DEFINATELY need to better use the ones I have AND sharpen my skills at orchestral composition, and don't need any more libraries. Yet I couldn't help but watch your video, you're that inspiring. And, darnit! SSO sounds REALLY great, it's such a distinctive sound, and inevitably I now want it! I'm not buying it at the intro price (20% off isn't enough of a discount), but next time they have a >=40% off sale it's probably top of the list.
Every time I chime in on your channel it’s a learning experience!!!always a student!!!🔥🔥🔥
Was eagerly waiting for your video, Guy! 🙏
AHA! Here you go then
@@ThinkSpaceEducation Paul was, as usual, "really excited", in his walkthrough yesterday. Always love getting your take though! 😁😁
In this crazy world what we get from Guy is beauty 🙌
Great stuff as always Guy. Just a beautiful sounding library
it really is -I bught them al as soon as they came out and have been using them for years
Great working review this library! There's always something to learn from your demos no matter what library you're using. I'm topped up with Spitfire libraries and can't don't see the need for anything at the moment but it looks like a major improvement on their interface and implementation. Looking good!
Thank you Guy for showcasing this wonderful library and composition process. Lovely piece! Might go for Cinematic Orchestration, would be my 3rd Thinkspace course. Greetings from Sweden!
I first heard this motif on the track Crash and burn from Malmsteen's album The seventh sign. I never get tired of the feel of those few well chosen notes 😊
Very useful and very interesting! Thank you!
Amazing video and software, so inspiring thank you.🍷🍷
Great Video Guy
That page curl is a great optical trick
It is - I hadnt seen that before either - hats off to Hugh the editor
Thank you for the demonstration, I bought it yesterday, it's a great orchestra. Thank you again for everything. It's great what you're doing.😊
@@ScratchySlideyou do realize the average person can’t afford real musicians right?
What a masterclass! I've always wondered what the process is for building up a piece like this. Now I know!
I really enjoyed that, thank you.
Flipping awesome video!
thank you
Always great stuff, love your work@@ThinkSpaceEducation
I saw the page and got the email, looked at it, saw some nice additions since I already had symphonic winds. This was a no brainer. Just downloaded. and now to get to work
Thank you for another great video, Guy ♥ This deal is epic - I almost picked up the Spitfire Symphony Orchestra last year during their Black Friday sale. So glad I didn't 😅 All the best and greetings from Denmark!
amazing tutorial guy keep the content up, gonna sign up to harmony 2 on thinkspace during the summer to keep my degree learning going
Love the hoodie, Guy!
Really hope we can buy soon 😊
:)
Yes, tell us where to buy it 🎉
Guy is getting cooler with each episode.
What really counts at the end of the day is not so much which libraries you have but rather the quality of the composer/ orchestrator using them. They are not a magic fast track to avoiding the hours of learning the essential skills. As Guy always tells us: if you put rubbish in, you get rubbish out!
100% right
Oh no! I'm going to have to find some excuse to but this package, Guy! Brilliant demonstration and listening through headphones and just sounds so sweet!!! Thank you for bringing us up to speed! And my Wife can't work out why I've been a subscriber this long. Well, no explanation required!
Just discovered your channel after hearing about this new product from Spitfire, I have subscribed!
Love it. A little peeved that I forked out more than 3x the new price last year for the legacy version - and I still haven't finished my piece!! At least I get this version for free.
Great video! The library sounds great but i'm more inspired with your process and skills sir.
Thank you sir!
thanks! beatiful
Fantastic!
wonderful stuff Guy
thanks
Hi Guy, I discovered your channel 3 days ago and I already watched over 20 of your videos. You are such an inspiration, a lovely and funny person, that makes the perfect mix to keep me focused through the entire video. I have a question, I'm planning on making an investment to upscale my orchestration library, would you recommend going for this SSO or getting the BBC Symphonic Orchestra professional? I'm really undecided as I love both (especially after watching your video I really like the SSO) and value a lot your feedback :)
You make it look very easy Guy!
It’s a great day when Guy uploads! 😄
Thank you
No my friend, thank you!!
@@ScratchySlide ........ or creating opportunities for musicians who could never think about affording ton work with professional musicians.
@@ScratchySlideyou know these are sampling real players right? They’re getting compensated
Was waiting for this before purchasing! Their symphony orchestra series has been on my wish list for a couple years now, but the price was too much for me to commit. Dropping it to an intro price of $499 (I think $620 regular) really made this a no-brainer for me, but was certainly waiting for your video before buying it! Excited to use this along with Chamber Strings and Albion One. Thanks Guy!
Have fun putting musicians in the dole office!!
Wauw this is incredible, I tip my hat to you sir.
OH MY, Guy. This sounds so amazing. Darn more money out of pocket 😁
OMG. Bought it right away after your video. EUR 449 right now
very insightful vdo, thankyou so much!...I'm learning film scoring by myself and I felt very discourage when it takes so much time to make just a few bars...but seeing this make me realize the delicacy of the writing process...I am just curious though, with a much larger project for example a 4-6 minute piece...I was wondering how long would it takes for a professional to complete.
i like the UI and dynamic articulations, very reminiscent of the CSS libraries
The re-polished version of SSO sounds fantastic. And finally, for an affordable price for the common composer. Nice work Guy, I enjoyed this session.
What a great deal on the Cinematic Orchestration Course. yeah, it's production values are dated but the material is all still very good and it would be hard to assemble such a crew of interviews and instructors like that anywhere.
Nice!
Very Very Good
Damn missed the deal...but nice to see your UA-cam which I enjoy and appreciate your tips. Thanks 😊
I just learned how to color multiple tracks at once!
Spitfire’s key switches defaulting to the octaves below the keyboard drove me crazy at first. Then I got a Korg nanoKONTROL2 and assigned the bottom row of buttons to those MIDI notes. Now I love it. You use StreamDeck, right? That would work equally well. The big disadvantage to assigning key switches to notes on your main keyboard is that they’re at the low end for high inst and the high end for low inst. Muscle memory doesn’t develop as well because you’re reaching for different places. Get your key switches on a separate controller where Legato is always button 1, long is button 2, CS is button 3, etc. It improves your workflow more than you’d think.
For sure. I've got the "drum pads" for my midi controller set to these.
Also have buttons set on my launchpad mini. As well as so many button combos for my daw and auto hot key scripts for loading plugins, copy pasting, all sorts
Bought it. Have to wait with the Cinematic Orchestration though, having spent my meagre budget on this library. And Guy, your videos are never too long. Love it when they are longer than 30 mins. Could be an hour each :)
Understood!
@@ScratchySlide You do realize how much time and money goes into real musicians right? Sample libraries open so many doors for those who can't afford a real orchestra.
Cool vid. Question: if your going to use spitfire string VSTs, is a keyboard best to use to control the strings? If so, what kind of keyboard? Thanks
How does it work with the sample delay for the performance patches? Is there one set median for this? as usually legato''s need much more delay comenpasation compared to shorts for example.
👏 This is the first video I've watched from start to end (I started a couple of others but got interrupted.) Anyways, that 40min went by in a flash! Amazing stuff! (I wish I could see what your left hand is doing because that seems where A LOT of the 'magic' is happening.)
AHA OK ill set up the third camera next time and make sire I cover that
Thanks! Personally, I've always been MOST frustrated with combining/assigning controllers/mod wheels to my MIDI devices and my VST instruments end up sounding flat and lifeless and 'digital.' Even if you don't explain what you are doing with the left hand I'd still like to see what kind of buttons/wheels/faders/knobs/devices you're using and try to figure it out myself. I'm a newbie so I'll look at some more of your vids because you've probably already explained how your rig/devices are all connected and why. Thanks again!@@ThinkSpaceEducation
@@ThinkSpaceEducationI think an entire dedicated faders and knobs in action tutorial is warranted with the Midi cc nuts and bolts. I’ve watched most of your catalog now and that is the one thing that has slipped through the cracks. Which expression is best for a fader and which is best for the mod wheel? And which expression is best for a knob, or even a conventional computer keyboard switch? Are there some best suited for a pedal? And overall how many of them are “essential” midi cc that you focus on and assign no matter the library? It’s the bit that appears to be wizardry at this point. Even when I use the same patches, and even having some physical hardware, its hard to build the expression muscle memory on top of chords and rhythm when performing live. Thank you for everything you’ve done Guy, your work is exceptional.
I don’t think it’s possible for a video of you composing to go on for too long! 😂 As always, engrossing and educational in equal measure. Thanks, Guy!
fantastic job as usual. Curious - do you like this Arturia keyboard better then your NI unit?
Hello to you, I have a small question if you allow. As someone who wishes to compose grand orchestral music for opera, film, or video games in the style of Hans Zimmer or John Williams, which orchestra would be most suitable between the BBC Core Orchestra and the Spitfire Symphonic Orchestra? To provide further guidance, I am ideally looking for an orchestra equipped with the greatest number of articulations and instruments, with a soft and warm sound for emotional music, featuring solo instruments that sound good and realistic. This orchestra will be paired with the Metropolis Ark One from Orchestral Tools to add the power it might lack during climactic moments.
Thank you in advance for your response, and best wishes! 🎶
Guy love every video you have ever made!!! You are a rock star to me!!!
Just wanted to let you know your front camera has a dead pixel in the left upper centre. It’s just a single dot it this video.
My OCD makes my eye go there through your video. Love the video. Just thought you should know. Thanks again for your hard work!
How dry is the close mic setting?
The obvious question is why we need this when we have the BBC Symphony Orchestra.
Nobody needs a smaple library really. BUT you will get a compeltely different room acoustic and 2x as many articulations and many mroe instruments. I use 4 or 5 different complete libraries all the time.
Because of the incredible sound of Lyndhurst Hall of Air studios (Gladiator, Interstellar and many incredible soundtracks record there). BBC is more a classic orchestral take and abbeyroad an other great studio so depending the cinematic, classic or orchestral sounds you're looking for or if you have the budget to record in. You got the choice of the rooms and orchestra who infuse the samples, therefore the musics and the souls of your tracks. 😊❤👌got it ?
Because SSO is better in almost every way. An extra dynamic layer and more round robins for many articulations, and the incredible acoustics and sound of AIR Lyndhurst are the main "upgrades". About the only thing BBCSO does better than than the new SSO is the cohesiveness of the players that have worked together as that group for years. But that's something that BBCSO has over every orchestral library IMO. I'm not blasting the talent of session players at all here of course, there is just something "extra" when get when you choose to record a working orchestra.
Then there is of course the slew of extra microphones you get in BBCSO Pro, but now that they've brought over the outrigger and string leader mics from SSO Pro and put them in the "regular" SSO, all the absolutely necessary bases are covered. And if/when they add the remaining Pro mics as a paid upgrade (gallery, close ribbon, stereo pair, and three mic mixes), this advantage that BBCSO holds will be reduced a bit.
BBC is superior to any Spitfire product really soundwise. But in terms of articulations and performances yes this is great @@ThinkSpaceEducation
@@Justin.Franks Does it require Kontact?
Hey Guy... love your videos, and have a question I've not seen answered on youtube, which is... what is your naming convention for all the different parts that I assume are written say for a film? There must be dozens of short musical clips that fit certain places in the film, so in your DAW how do you keep them all straight??? Curious in Chicago.
In films it goes 1m1 1m2 1m3 where 1 before the m is the reel number and the number after is the cue number. I also add a version number as well so 1m13 v4 etc.
Thanks Guy, I'm writing a musical with many musical parts/ideas that might fit at different places... instead of trying to write a description in the file name, I've been just numbering them and then writing that number on paper with a description of mood, instruments etc, so I was curious how others dealt with the problem ... Thanks for the quick response ... here is a song if interested .. ua-cam.com/video/SYoBsDBRfN4/v-deo.html @@ThinkSpaceEducation
Ooh nice. Hi Guy
Hi Matthew
hi Guy, I am sure you get asked this a lot, but what is the spec of your machine, or if an upgrade is required, what would you recommend as the reommended spec for all the stuff you do on this channel? Would a modern 13th Gen i7 with 32Gb Ram 512 Gb M2 SSD be sufficient? and coul dit be on a NUC ?
I’ve never sequenced before. I will try tomorrow on my tyros 5.🎹🎶
go for it! its fun
Course bought.
It looks like all travks are instrument tracks. Wont tjis us a hige amount of ram / processing? In a previous video you djowed how can be best yo use midi tracks. Do you have to use seperate instrument tracks for each musical instrument? Exvise my ignorance.
Hey Guy! Really interested in the new (old) course. How do I get the introductory offer? Cheers. :)
Guy, I was wondering, since you use both Cubase 13 and Logic sometimes, could you tell me which you find to be more stable in larger templates? I used to use Cubase on Windows and loved it but it wasn't very stable for me. I got a Mac and started using Logic and it's constantly glitching out in larger templates. I'm considering going back to Cubase, but I'd like to know if it's stable
What kind of Mac are you using? And how much Ram?
Logic should be even more stable as it's optimized for Mac. You might not have enough RAM
Fantastic commitment from Guy. Quick question… does Cubase automatically record your dynamic changes in expression as you play in each instrument or do you have to tell it to do this somehow?
Mod wheel. Im always using that as I play to add dynamics
If you were looking to get your first symphonic library, and you wanted the most out of your investment, might you pick this one?
Also on my radar is NI's Symphony Essentials.
Thanks for this video! Always helpful to see how someone experienced puts something together.
Some lyrics are coming to mind. "How dry I am, How dry I am..." :D
Bloody hell im going to need another drive. 🙂
Actually, do they have the option to buy this on a drive?
Guy, you are a beautiful human being, your positivity is so inspiring. like everyone has said. I do however have a question. Do I need to have Kontact Player to run this new download? or will it just just load in its own interface? just like everything else ive downloaded from Spitfire Audio (such a gem of a company)
You need Kontakt player which is free
Great video reminds me of Mendelssohn and Smetna
Thank you!
Your approach to composition is so different from mine. I usually start in Sibelius and then move over to my DAW (Reaper currently) to fine tune it. I think I'm going to experiment with a DAW first approach like you have been doing. I've found that my approach has become too mechanical and formulaic. I think using your approach will add more improvisation and, hopefully, breathe some life into my music. Cheers and looking forward to your next video!
Is it worth it when you own the Cinematic Studio Series?
Awesome my fave person in the whole world is back again…. Right now I’ve stopped checking my hair in the mirror let’s watch my second fave person in the whole world
ha ha
I am looking more forward to the computer modelling libraries which use us less memory and are coming along in leaps and bounds for expression and realism. Although they are rather costly right now.
Hi Guy I have a question I own Symphonic Strings and Symphonic Woodwings do I need it in my SSD if I purchase the New Symphonic Orchestra?
I think there's a kind of crossgrade thing so you only pay for what you havent got. Go the website and if you;re logged in it tells you
Yes I see the discount in my account. My question is if I install the new orchestra do I need to keep the Symphonic Strings and Woodwing in my SSD drive? I got couple of courses of your the last one that I got the Cinematic Orchestration Legacy ( Love it) but any way all your courses are so good very well detailed. Thanks to You and Thinkspace Education.
I'm loving your videos for years now Guy ! Thank you so much for doing these!
Is here anyone who can compare the new spitfire symphonic orchestra to nucleus from audio imperia?
Is there a reason for getting this one of you already own nucleus?
Thanks in advance :)
Aww man, I recently bought BBCSO Core, and now I wish I waited for this 😢 oh well, still a great overview!
Quick question Guy, cause I'm a sneaky little bugger like that, would you consider doing a video about giving feedback on user-submitted stems/DAW files? Or is that something exclusive to the courses? 😉
I was thinking of moving out of the front room into a garden office type thing. How high is your ceiling? Id like to do it but most of these garden things are so low.. The acoustics must be appalling.
Acoustics are rubbish but the view is great = better music. Ceiliing's only about 6'6". You can mix on open back headphones and that really works.
Do you have any thoughts concerning BBC Symphony Orchestra and this plugin? What's the difference?
Different sound - BBC is a tighter less ambient - SSO is the air hall which is quite ambient - SSO has LOADS more instruments and articulations and runs in Kontakt - BBC SO has more mic positions and runs in spitfire player
@@ThinkSpaceEducationthanks!!
thanks for the videos you do! Im at the crossroads here. Ive been a user of logic pro then ableton and i mostly have been doing a mixture of pop songs + some lil ads and short films. But , i want to focus on film scoring more this year. Ive been trying cubase 13 on trial and Im really just wondering why most film composers as well yourself choose cubase on top of the rest? AS i did see you were on Logic 4 years ago.
In an old video he mentions that no one knew if Apple was going to discontinue the Mac Pro a few years ago. He said he switched to Cubase to be cross platform in case that happened. Logic is more than suitable for anything you need to do, and you can easily score a film with it. Cubase is just another tool in the toolbox for him. So I think the reasons were more practical than they were specific to something Cubase does than Logic doesn’t do. Really I would just work with whatever you have and master that. Then you can use anything you want.
Nice gutural vocal harmonics at 12:38
So they finally made the integrated version of it. So I'd imagine it comes with True legato and also Polyphonic Legato? I feel it's essential to have the instrument that can change articulations without having to press any other keys? Very nice
is this good for scoring ??
Bom dia senhor Michelmore. É sempre bom lhe assistir.
Bom dia para você também
@@ThinkSpaceEducation ❤️
I have to stop visiting this man's chanell. That's another course bought! Music for video games and Cinematic orchestration.
Great video, very insightful. thank you very much :) Someone out there happen to made the SSO template for Propellerheads Reason ?
Dear Guy, Where idid the komplete kontrol keyboard went to ?
In the other studio
I think I see it standing behind you. No use anymore ?
I just noticed they made Albion 2 available again, along with the *original* version Albion. Very cool.
The original version is still in my template - love it
Why did you change your controller keyboard to an Arturia? (PS : I hear the Mk3 is coming soon)
I have an arturia and a NI S88 in different studios
Love this video Guy and definitely considering buying BBC Symphony Orchestra! Full Kontakt 7 is also 50 percent off at the moment! Any chances to see videos about orchestral voicings? it would be so helpful, thank you so much!
He's talking about spitfire Symphony Orchestra (SSO) - which works with the kontakt player (don't need to buy kontakt), not the BBC Symphony Orchestra, running on Spitfire's own plugin.
Because of the "symphony orchestra" in the name, it's pretty difficult to find one or the other' mockup exxemple on youtube without confusion.
Hi Guy. What are your feelings on the current state of audio modelling and more specifically the SWAM products?
Hi Guy, great video! What keyboard do you use?
Arturia kaylab 88 on the shed and a NI s88 in hte other studio