Tukang Amplas hadir 😂🙏 Orang Indonesia mana suaranya kumpul sini yookk 😅 This video is my motivation to always improve to get perfect results like a professional painter.. thank you Martin Etoe Design 🙏 you are still my idol and keep inspiring 🔥 greetings from Indonesia 🇮🇩
Thanks Martin for this Video, it's great to hear you critique another painter. I know that Kandy paint is expensive and the effect paint for the lettering and the clearcoat are good quality and cost a lot too. I don't understand why the frame wasn't prepared by sanding (Sandra) or blasting, first? I was taught that *PREPARATION IS EVERYTHING* and a clean bare frame without the derailleur hanger and badge on the head tube would have made a better foundation for an excellent paint job instead of an average paint job. Many thin coats are better than one or two thick coats, it is easier for the solvents to flash off and you achieve better depth of colour. The other thing that I noticed was no sanding pad when he was sanding the clear. It's easy to leave "finger ridges" if you don't use a sanding pad. Thanks again, Martin. 👍✌
If the bike is build up again by a bike shop. They can face the brake mounts again. So it doesn't have to be an issue. Most frames from the factory need a facing anyway.
I am a Master dental technician that has practiced his craft for over 50 years and I love it when a master such as yourself shows such a high level of perfectionism! Hopefully this young painter sees this video and refines his skills by paying attention to your suggestions. Some people will say that you are hyper picky of this paint job but what you’ve showed if the difference in a truly “PRO” paint job and a “good” paint job! This young painter may turn in to a great painter some day but he isn’t there quite yet! The difference between “good” and “exceptional” may only be that last 10% that we put into our project but that is what will demand a 100% or 200% increase in our fee and for those that demand excellence it is worth every penny! Great tutorial and very gracious of you to share your experience!
i actually love the paintjob by tukang amplas. after seeing this react, i do agree that there were missed steps from him. but the result of his job is still the best in the city!
You have three iwata spray Guns dedicated for primer base or clear, a car size spray booth with downwards air flow and heating system, a workshop to work in, and a top notch plotter for your stencils. He's using what looks like a cheap touch up gun for everything, with no or very little equipment and spraying in his backyard, and still getting pretty impressive results
I build the paint booth myself spending 3 month of welding 2 tons of metal plates. Started 20 years ago with zero money and a credit to pay my studies. Do you think somebody came and gave meall these things? I started in a shed smaller than your bathroom.
That’s because Martin is a pro. I’m sure there was a time when he had one gun and changed tips to spray different material, but as you grow you buy tools to make your output better. Don’t hate on him for having the right gear
I did something similar but I didnt use the candy color, thought I like the silver black combo LOL That was the first time painting a bike frame, results are alright but far from perfect. Good tips Martin, keep it up
Can you please let me know where can i get the masking stickers, or else any sticker cutting file you have for all the parts so that i can cut it myself :)
Martin, I'm gonna paint my steel bike for first time. I want to paint starting from bare metal. My budget is going high coz of Chameleon colour spray cans, So pls tell the best Budget Bare Steel Primer Type?
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Thanks Martin for your great videos. Can you do one with using clear coats from cans. A lot of us will probably want to paint our bike, but not invest in the equipment , and will only have access to off the shelf cans . How can we make the most of what's available ? thanks
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Ok, man muss nach jeder Klarlackschicht den Rahmen einmal nass abschleifen. Wie lange muss man die erste Schicht trocknen lassen und sollte man den Rahmen danach nochmal mit Alkohol sauber machen, weil durch das schleifen befinden sich ja Farbpartikel auf dem Rahmen. Ich habe das mal mit einem Einkomponentensystem gemacht und das war da eine nicht so gute Idee^^, weil ich dann den Klarlack wieder abgedtragen habe.
I have a question Martin, what can I do if I want a raw finish on my frame? Planning to strip the old paint by a chemical paint remover and scrub it using sandpapers for finer touch. Any recommendations? Cheers from the Philippines.
Hi Martin, i’m using Oramask to cut out the desired logo and applied on frame, then I use airbrush to spray. However, every time when I remove oramask, some paint will be removed together with the oramask. Then I need to repair the logo again by spraying and masking. Do you have solution for this? Highly appreciated
Ich kenne diesen komischen Effekt bei den geschnittenen Decals den du hier siehst. Das passiert wenn du schlecht aufgelöste Grafiken vektorisierst und dann Folien draus plottest. Dann kommt das raus wie du es zb. bei 20:40 am Zanetti siehst. Dieses komische A, das E, die zwei identisch schlechten T.
Yes, you have to wait for it to dry. For most clears that’s 4 hours or so. Good to have multiple projects going so you can fill the time in between….usually playing with wet sandra
@@chimdegu that’s a tough one….I guess you could lay out a few coats (with a little time in between, whatever the product recommends) and then come back and sand it flat (it’ll be rough with no sanding between. Then you’d need a fresh can to lay down the final coat after sanding
@@henryoddsball2164 yeah man i know ryt its pretty tough. although on some of ETOE's vids he stated that sometimes he sands the clear coat in between coats within 10-15 minutes drying time
The treks use the seat mast that goes over , not inside, you can see where it stops at the beginning of the video , it's bare carbon and the carbon mast goes over it , there is no other way to mount the seat post or in this case mast , it might even not be able to fit becuase of the piant increasing the diameter of the mast , so it's going to get destroyed or fused and stuck ,when the client puts his mast on, or at least have to use some magic lube , very sloppy , the painter must study the factory techniques, usually you just add weight when doing a diy job 😉
He dose got a mager point on removeing the stickers off the bike it will trash your hole paint job I learned that the hard way by doing a custom paint job for my sister bike and yeah wasn't happy
@@subhanyushan5713 He has a video where he blasts a carbon frame with cherry pit media and explains very well that the media is softer than the carbon epoxy.
el error mas importante que comete es lijar en el mismo sitio donde aplica color y barniz . al hacer eso tendra mas probabilidad de que caigan particulas de polvo sobre el trabajo.
Leider kann ich mir deine Kunst nicht leisten, ich bin ein Fan seit der ersten Stunde, bitte mach weiter so. Ich werde mein Fahrrad nach Thailand schicken für ein airbrush.
Good lord, 2 component clear coat without protective equipment and a high CFM fan?? This is cancer in a (spray) booth! Also I would note Martin, although you are of course correct that flattening the gap between the decal and the colour is important and professional, it is incredible how many factory paint jobs fresh from the bike shop have a big gap between the decal and the colour.
Customers don`t care about safety and cancer. What they care about is the price. And to be fair risking cancer is much ceaper for the client and that is what counts if you want to get bussy.
of course theres a big difference in quality and did you mention how BIG the difference of talent fee compare to a backyard painter in 3rd world countries... if their clients can afford your rates maybe then they can make it more professionaly the right way...
Hey Martin, hab dieses Video gerade gesehen und musste an dich denken. Was hältst du davon einen Stahlrahmen zu brünieren. Mir ist irgendwie ein kalter Schauer über den Rücken gelaufen. Grüße ua-cam.com/video/cOMdepGSwrg/v-deo.html
If you want to see all the video : ua-cam.com/video/HgvCle-y5h0/v-deo.html Indonesian paint job.. Kediri, East Java, Indonesia.. Sukses & sehat selalu #tukangamplas
Please always remove the original paintjob. I can´t understand not doing like that. I am not a professional, I just did only one bike in my life with the help of a car painter and the hardest steps were sanding and masking. I am amazed with your job!
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I don't agree with none of it you talking about imperfections I don't see no imperfections in that frame all I see is a perfectly painted frame perfectly painted decal just because some people techniques are different than yours doesn't mean that their techniques does not work
I'd like to see a video on how to do the marbling effect well. 🙂
I have a video how to do it at home. Check this: ua-cam.com/video/PuX8LNhLNTI/v-deo.html
Tukang Amplas hadir 😂🙏
Orang Indonesia mana suaranya kumpul sini yookk 😅
This video is my motivation to always improve to get perfect results like a professional painter..
thank you Martin Etoe Design 🙏
you are still my idol and keep inspiring 🔥
greetings from Indonesia 🇮🇩
Bikin react tukang amplas juga dgn hasilnya Etoe biar impas. Wkakak
@@munthe8 wkwkwk boleh juga 😅
Sukses & Sehat selalu..
Salam dari Surabaya..🤟
Next Stumpjumper saya yaa Om.. 🤩
Ngerti dia ngomong apa gak bang? Wkwk
Joss tenan mas David😅
Another great video Martin! I learn a lot from you even when you are critiquing other work. 👍💪
19:08 The Emonda has a seat tube that mounts over the seat tube on the frame.
The color effect is really amazing. I like a lot!!!
Thanks Martin for this Video, it's great to hear you critique another painter. I know that Kandy paint is expensive and the effect paint for the lettering and the clearcoat are good quality and cost a lot too. I don't understand why the frame wasn't prepared by sanding (Sandra) or blasting, first? I was taught that *PREPARATION IS EVERYTHING* and a clean bare frame without the derailleur hanger and badge on the head tube would have made a better foundation for an excellent paint job instead of an average paint job. Many thin coats are better than one or two thick coats, it is easier for the solvents to flash off and you achieve better depth of colour. The other thing that I noticed was no sanding pad when he was sanding the clear. It's easy to leave "finger ridges" if you don't use a sanding pad. Thanks again, Martin. 👍✌
Thanks for the comments during the years.
hello! hope you would reply. how many minutes in between coats before you sand the clear coat? do i have to wait for it to cure before i sand?
Love your videos Martin, some of them I watched many many times. Thanks for all the info and the hard work, you are a true artist my friend.
nice safety shorts! 🙂 I fully agree with you: SAFETY FIRST!
If the bike is build up again by a bike shop. They can face the brake mounts again. So it doesn't have to be an issue. Most frames from the factory need a facing anyway.
I am a Master dental technician that has practiced his craft for over 50 years and I love it when a master such as yourself shows such a high level of perfectionism! Hopefully this young painter sees this video and refines his skills by paying attention to your suggestions. Some people will say that you are hyper picky of this paint job but what you’ve showed if the difference in a truly “PRO” paint job and a “good” paint job!
This young painter may turn in to a great painter some day but he isn’t there quite yet! The difference between “good” and “exceptional” may only be that last 10% that we put into our project but that is what will demand a 100% or 200% increase in our fee and for those that demand excellence it is worth every penny!
Great tutorial and very gracious of you to share your experience!
I bet you love telling people you're a master dental technician 😜
i actually love the paintjob by tukang amplas. after seeing this react, i do agree that there were missed steps from him. but the result of his job is still the best in the city!
Just shows the huge difference between a true professional and a good amateur . 🤔😃👍
Love your work , love your videos ... Cheers from Australia 🦘👍😃
Ich habe in 2 monaten so viel gelernt, . Bin halt Tischler und da Lackiert man anders. super Arbeit Danke Bub
You have three iwata spray Guns dedicated for primer base or clear, a car size spray booth with downwards air flow and heating system, a workshop to work in, and a top notch plotter for your stencils. He's using what looks like a cheap touch up gun for everything, with no or very little equipment and spraying in his backyard, and still getting pretty impressive results
I build the paint booth myself spending 3 month of welding 2 tons of metal plates. Started 20 years ago with zero money and a credit to pay my studies. Do you think somebody came and gave meall these things? I started in a shed smaller than your bathroom.
That’s because Martin is a pro. I’m sure there was a time when he had one gun and changed tips to spray different material, but as you grow you buy tools to make your output better. Don’t hate on him for having the right gear
@@henryoddsball2164 I don’t think he was being too hard on him because this guy he reviewed was experienced I’m guessing there’s a past in this.
Hi I am Indian but I like your videos
I did something similar but I didnt use the candy color, thought I like the silver black combo LOL
That was the first time painting a bike frame, results are alright but far from perfect.
Good tips Martin, keep it up
Arrived in four days. Beautiful bike
Can you please let me know where can i get the masking stickers, or else any sticker cutting file you have for all the parts so that i can cut it myself :)
At a sticker shop.
Hi, may I ask, for a fairly new bike, do I need to remove all the paint including the primer and strip it to the bare carbon?
Etoe only says it like every time 😆
Wow. You're the MAN Martin...Great video. Two painted thumbs up.
Thanks 👍
The white primer let's you know when your getting close to bare metal the next time you paint it.
In my experiencie use a white primer it is better covering of the black paint,(faster,less paint,and better contrast to do a much better cover).
I love your vids man keep up the good work
I will, thanks.
Yea, the clear looks a bit rough. my ocd go's crazy when I see orange peal.
would you mind showing any debri in your filters next time you find some please?
Great videos. Do you have any videos on painting heavy metal flake?
Can you do a video on how Colnago achieved the Frozen Paint Scheme.
Martin, I'm gonna paint my steel bike for first time. I want to paint starting from bare metal. My budget is going high coz of Chameleon colour spray cans, So pls tell the best Budget Bare Steel Primer Type?
This one: amzn.to/3oSeMLK
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@@ETOE thanx.
Can i skip base coat black paint, because this primer is black?
Thanks Martin for your great videos. Can you do one with using clear coats from cans. A lot of us will probably want to paint our bike, but not invest in the equipment , and will only have access to off the shelf cans . How can we make the most of what's available ?
thanks
please watch these: ua-cam.com/video/yuruo4qVvSY/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/fv003yZepdo/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/5R7UX1X9w5E/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/rsD3E0b6mko/v-deo.html
Ok, man muss nach jeder Klarlackschicht den Rahmen einmal nass abschleifen. Wie lange muss man die erste Schicht trocknen lassen und sollte man den Rahmen danach nochmal mit Alkohol sauber machen, weil durch das schleifen befinden sich ja Farbpartikel auf dem Rahmen. Ich habe das mal mit einem Einkomponentensystem gemacht und das war da eine nicht so gute Idee^^, weil ich dann den Klarlack wieder abgedtragen habe.
Ich muss die Schicht 20 Minuten trcknen lassen, du musst sie 2 Wochen trocknen lassen.
Very instructional. Thank you.
hello! hope you would reply. how many minutes in between coats do you sand the clear coat? do i have to wait for it to cure before i sand?
He’s backasswards. You don’t spray the disrupter you spray the frame and use the plastic or foil to blot it after you apply paint to the frame.
I did paint candy blue on raw carbon, but it didn't show carbon underneath. Is there some formula to get that transparent effect?
The formula is to use transparent colors for transparent effects like I've shown in this video: ua-cam.com/video/fv003yZepdo/v-deo.html
Молодец Мартин !!! Все правильно рассказал !!!
Thank you.
Hi etoe. I have some question. I bought nc. Formula graffiti spray paint why i cant use for the bicycle,??. Should i return it
Yes you can
I have a question Martin, what can I do if I want a raw finish on my frame? Planning to strip the old paint by a chemical paint remover and scrub it using sandpapers for finer touch. Any recommendations? Cheers from the Philippines.
Please watch this video for frame preparation: ua-cam.com/video/IiqWy-JXB74/v-deo.html
Thank you so much Martin. Your videos are amazing and you inspire many people including myself💯
Bikin video tukang amplas nge react etoe
Hi Martin, i’m using Oramask to cut out the desired logo and applied on frame, then I use airbrush to spray. However, every time when I remove oramask, some paint will be removed together with the oramask. Then I need to repair the logo again by spraying and masking. Do you have solution for this? Highly appreciated
Don`t use Oramask in combination with the Color you use. The glue of the Oramask reacts with your color.
Love the way he removed the bottle top
Ich kenne diesen komischen Effekt bei den geschnittenen Decals den du hier siehst. Das passiert wenn du schlecht aufgelöste Grafiken vektorisierst und dann Folien draus plottest.
Dann kommt das raus wie du es zb. bei 20:40 am Zanetti siehst. Dieses komische A, das E, die zwei identisch schlechten T.
Great videos. Great work.
Thank you very much!
Happy 2022 .
Jetzt bin ich etwas verwirrt. Wenn man also 2 Lagen Klarlack aufträgt, schleift man dazwischen mit 800er ab ?
Sand with 3000 to be safe not to cause scratches .
Well worth the money, grwat product
Great feedback!
Can I ask what purple color will work with this effect?
Transparent purple color.
@@ETOE I mean I know any suggestions? Like the candy red used in the Vid
Love your videos Martin, some❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
do i have to wait for the clear coat to cure before i wet sand? or is touch dry good for wet sanding? and then apply another layer?
Yes, you have to wait for it to dry. For most clears that’s 4 hours or so. Good to have multiple projects going so you can fill the time in between….usually playing with wet sandra
Let it cure overnight to be sure.
damn. im gonna be using a 2K spray can. if i let it dry completely, my whole can is gonna be wasted. what would be your recommendation guys?
@@chimdegu that’s a tough one….I guess you could lay out a few coats (with a little time in between, whatever the product recommends) and then come back and sand it flat (it’ll be rough with no sanding between. Then you’d need a fresh can to lay down the final coat after sanding
@@henryoddsball2164 yeah man i know ryt its pretty tough. although on some of ETOE's vids he stated that sometimes he sands the clear coat in between coats within 10-15 minutes drying time
The treks use the seat mast that goes over , not inside, you can see where it stops at the beginning of the video , it's bare carbon and the carbon mast goes over it , there is no other way to mount the seat post or in this case mast , it might even not be able to fit becuase of the piant increasing the diameter of the mast , so it's going to get destroyed or fused and stuck ,when the client puts his mast on, or at least have to use some magic lube , very sloppy , the painter must study the factory techniques, usually you just add weight when doing a diy job 😉
How i wish you could paint my bike
Y los subtítulos en español cuando?
He dose got a mager point on removeing the stickers off the bike it will trash your hole paint job I learned that the hard way by doing a custom paint job for my sister bike and yeah wasn't happy
The first bright layer is called Epoxy primer. Thats why you’re seeing another layer of black primer
Question: what sort of blasting media do you prefer for aluminum frames?
And carbon?
do you really want to sandblast your carbon fiber?
@@subhanyushan5713 He has a video where he blasts a carbon frame with cherry pit media and explains very well that the media is softer than the carbon epoxy.
@@WordupG yeah i mean, not a simple job
maybe just paper sand a bit then straight to spray paint
About level..
Thank you.
el error mas importante que comete es lijar en el mismo sitio donde aplica color y barniz . al hacer eso tendra mas probabilidad de que caigan particulas de polvo sobre el trabajo.
U just do it right etoe
Leider kann ich mir deine Kunst nicht leisten, ich bin ein Fan seit der ersten Stunde, bitte mach weiter so. Ich werde mein Fahrrad nach Thailand schicken für ein airbrush.
yea u spell it fine.
im indonesian
Good to hear. Thank you.
great video, shortcuts are for traveling...not high quality paint jobs
вы так правильно говори. я тоже видно не так уж лень
Good lord, 2 component clear coat without protective equipment and a high CFM fan?? This is cancer in a (spray) booth!
Also I would note Martin, although you are of course correct that flattening the gap between the decal and the colour is important and professional, it is incredible how many factory paint jobs fresh from the bike shop have a big gap between the decal and the colour.
Customers don`t care about safety and cancer. What they care about is the price. And to be fair risking cancer is much ceaper for the client and that is what counts if you want to get bussy.
@@ETOE Stay safe Martin, I want to keep watching your videos until the day you stop by choice!
No need to mask brakes. It's a fixie lol
of course theres a big difference in quality and did you mention how BIG the difference of talent fee compare to a backyard painter in 3rd world countries... if their clients can afford your rates maybe then they can make it more professionaly the right way...
His clients can afford a Trek bike like this. Maybe they should think about their preferences if the painter is not payed well.
Also, a lot of it is just time/effort and attention to detail. Sandpaper is not expensive.
Lmao! Got me at lazy guy. Perfect!
Pure Laziness haha
Mantap 👍
Hey Martin, hab dieses Video gerade gesehen und musste an dich denken. Was hältst du davon einen Stahlrahmen zu brünieren. Mir ist irgendwie ein kalter Schauer über den Rücken gelaufen.
Grüße
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LET'S TRY BRO HEHE
👍
Indo Proud
你好 做我师傅可以么
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Indonesian paint job..
Kediri, East Java, Indonesia..
Sukses & sehat selalu #tukangamplas
Mantap makasih mas 🙏
Please always remove the original paintjob. I can´t understand not doing like that. I am not a professional, I just did only one bike in my life with the help of a car painter and the hardest steps were sanding and masking. I am amazed with your job!
These 90s factory marble paint jobs went out of fashion, they haven't come back
I have seen a lot of them during the last months.
INDONESIAN 💨
the best tip. put a mask .
dein akzent im Englischen is echt fürn arsch. aber du bist der Beste Man wenns ums Radl Lackieren geht, !!!
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I don't agree with none of it you talking about imperfections I don't see no imperfections in that frame all I see is a perfectly painted frame perfectly painted decal just because some people techniques are different than yours doesn't mean that their techniques does not work