AT&T will also sometimes push out changes that will take the gateway out of passthrough mode. Took me ages to figure out what was wrong. Their network support guys are hilarious. They don’t know anything about networking strangely enough.
If it's not in the script, forget it your not going get anywhere- especially with the level 1 techs. The level 2 techs may or may not know a thing or two just depends on the tech. Level 3 guys are normally in the know!
Former AT&T Prem Tech here. I had a customer purchase there own BGW320 box which i thought was weird didn’t know customers could do that easiest ticket ever just had to come in install and SFP and activate. This bypass option in this video is awesome im geeked out by it. DIY is correct if you have to call AT&T for anything put the original box back in before calling in. Also if this bypass is installed I’m going to guess that the AT&T APP is not going to work properly either.
@@dmeyer6994the techs use the app as a troubleshooting tool shooting tool also when you call in for customer service they use the technician side of that app as well. So the company gives a crap about it even if you don’t. It saves a service call fee.
@@digiblurDIYyup the gateway sends some metrics back to ATT for connection health monitoring. I thought my NanoPi R4s was gonna be my end-game wired routing solution but now I need to get my hands on a was-110 smh hahaha
AT&T ran fiber in my area in spring 2020. I got the service in Sep, 2020 and have used the same BGW320 modem the whole time. My 1Gb up and down, ideally gives me about 950Mb down and up, not 1250Mb. I have had very infrequent issues and my speed test while watching this video was 940Mb down, 949Mb up with a 5ms Ping. I think that ONT on a stick looks cool as hell, but I have no reason to actually use it at this time. The power savings wouldn't equal the price of equip for a long, long time. I don't have a PF sense router, just an old Buffalo 1900AC router for backup and to give a couple of extra ethernet ports.
AT&T Fiber guy is here right now installing. I have an extensive Eero network here, with hardwires to each WAP. No way I’m giving that up! Well, at least not after he leaves! Haha. BTW, he checked each room for signal from his WiFi router, only reaches 1/2 my house. Thanks for the tips here!
Why would you let a quasi government agency into your home. I got rid of them as soon as their tech who came out to install their modem. What is wrong with big corporations and want to come into your home!
@vt20247 for thr vast overwhelming amount of people doing what was don't in this video is fully unreasonable. While letting the cable guy* in the house is standard and normal
As an employee for a fiber company (not ATT), you can actually contact your company and ask which PON type you’re actually running whether it’s B/G/X. I wouldn’t see this being worth it if you’re on Bpon but you can get the adjacent adapter based on your PON type
That's if you can get through the stupid robot that tries to fix your internet before you get to a human, AND the tech you get even knows what the hell you're even talking about.
Great vid walkthrough, you're a prince among men. My last house(which was a rental) had AT&T with the GPON + ONT, and I ended up doing a bypass through WPA Supplicant and extracting my cert files from the old gateway(shoutout to DSLReports folks for their work on that method). Been stuck with Comcast at my new(owned) house, but finally AT&T is coming out to us(after 4 years of living here). I was a little concerned about not being able to do a bypass with the new combined ONT/Gateway. I'm elated someone found an SFP+ bypass. Now I know what to get to prepare for the fiber rollout. Best wishes from a Texan.
Happy Friday my man! Thanks to your video and the 8311 team, I very easily got my bypass working using an Alta Labs Route 10 and AP6 Pro. The hardest part was waiting on Amazon to deliver them...super super slow. Haha. Anyway, thanks again!
@cliffx7 yes! It took them three times and they kept breaking it. I noticed it has already popped up in two places and man I don't want to go through that again with them. Long story
I'm almost certain I know what neighborhood you live in because I live there too! They installed fiber here about a year ago and I asked them if I could use my own equipment. I'm glad there is a way to do that now and there is an additional benefit to it.
Sounds perfect. They need to do their job better as it took them 3 or 4 tries and still failed. So many people still have fiber just hanging from fences and just sticking out the ground.
@@digiblurDIY OMG YES! I'm in north Houston area and we had to get the stupid burial crew out here three times before it was done "right-ish". When we called to complain about the initial bury, they sent the same exact two jack@SSes out here as the first time. After the third time we still ended up digging it back up in one area near all the water lines to bury it at a proper depth of 6" or more. And out here none of them speak English so you can't even call them out for doing it wrong, they just smile with that stupid grin they always use when they don't understand you. Oh and to make it even better, they're a UNION job so your install tech can't even dig and bury the line if they WANT to. (eye roll)
@idontneedthis66 ours speak English but they complain the whole time. One dude buried it half way and left it on the fence and just left. I waved him down as he was leaving and he just waved and drove off. Like bro! Finish the job. The techs.. Now they are cool as hell.
Here in brazil the tech peoble on big ISP are buying on aliexpress SFP+ GPON to change and bypass the ONT, have a webpage with models that work. Or SFP Gpon or 2.5Gb ONU. The good part, is that regional ISP are strongh here, and most uses ONU + Router, just need to request bridge mode
If you search here on YT "trocando modem vivo" "Se livrando modem da operadora" will Find some. Need a bit of work, but work, and I found people reciving with this 1.7Gb on 1Gb plan
That would be great if they gave us that option. Some ISPs do but AT&T is hell bent on forcing their gateway down everyone's throat so you don't get any option at all.
this is huge!!! as a LOOOOONG time at&t subscriber i've had this exact thought many many times and i'm so glad it's something as relatively easy as this LOL thanks!!!!!!!
There is no need to upgrade the other firmware bootbank. The whole point is so that you have a way to switch from the latest one you just installed back to the prior one in case the latest is buggy. Why would you want to install a buggy version in both spots? The next time you upgrade, it'll go to the other slot, alternating back and forth.
Apparently the OLT can pick from what I read and I've seen people plug in the stick and the other boots. Now if I was upgrading revisions I would do just one at a time for testing.
Have had the hardware and guides to do this for the past 4-5 months, just havent had the motivation to go through the steps until this video dropped.. thanks
The block A and B thing is a case of easy rollback so if you was to brick it can be recovered so you do not need to flash it again it means when updating you can revert.
@@digiblurDIY but the whole idea is if the firmware fails because of a bad image can be recovered to a point that you try a different image or get it working. But by doing strait off before you have it up and running you are in danger of totally bricking your device. The other memory block will not be in use so you will be running that software not. I work in networks as a network security engineer and deal with all the time.
Hey @digiblurDIY , thanks for calling out our 8311 community! We have some stuff planned for the group buys (that might make them quicker), and we are always looking to improve. Thanks again!!
You guys/gals are doing an awesome job with this stuff. Looking forward to seeing things improve. I did get in on one of the last group buys but I figured for such a critical part of my home why not have a backup.
Thank you!!!! You give me hope in a world of ONT lockdowns. Although I realize what I'm trying to do won't have a "paint by numbers" solution, I'm going to try and get one of these working with Telmex Fiber in Mexico. If anyone here happens to be from Mexico and has already done some work on this, please contact me.
the only way you used to be able to do passthrough was to acquire a certificate from a donor modem and create a wpa_supplicant file then feed it to podman which can run on a unifi dream machine pro. certs were issued for 5 years so you'd have to repeat the process when the cert expires since that's how they identify their devices (at least did at one point) so you essentially would just spoof a modem.
The method in this video doesn't require anything donor. It uses your existing RG and works like a champ. No rooting, or donors needed. Just a a programmable SFP PON and some tech muscle to get the job done.
This is incredible. I've been wanting to do the bypass ever since we moved in, but couldn't get a donor modem that was compatible. So happy to see that's no longer required.
If you had a 320, pulling its cert was a pain. Getting one from a 210 (or 5268) was easier. These days, they've relaxed the 802.1x requirement for XGS-PON deployments with the 320. (why make the RG authenticate to itself?)
Wow that's expensive fiber rates. We pay $25 for the 10G here in Spain. Our building is serviced by three different networks, thank god for competition.
Frontier FiOS allows you to plug in the Ethernet from the Ont into your router. Att requires this because they don’t allow you to use your own router with the att Ont.
Didnt know I needed this, yet here I am. Thanks for the lead... Now if theyd do another group buy, and I could just find a couple grand laying around to upgrade my switches to multigig...
Thankyou so much for this video. After watching this I took the dive and bought everything including a UCG Max a few flex switches and u6 ap's. My download speeds after the bypass dropped in half and I can't understand why?
@@digiblurDIY Yes. The media converter I was using was slowing download speeds by more than half. I was getting no more than 450 download but the upload speeds were over 1200mbps. I switched out the media converter to a different brand and now every thing is fine. I appreciate you for making this video and for taking the time to reply to my comment. Keep up the good work good sir!!!
One thing i thought about (since i cant use this because no 2gbs so cant switch frequencies) is the $200 adapter may pay for itself in 3-5 years in power savings if the BGW320 is drawing a constant 30-40 watts 24/7.
How do you get 30-40 watts? Did you use a kill-a-watt meter to actually measure? I external ont set up with a 320. The bgw consumed ~10-15 watts. Ont ~3-4 (nokia G-010G-A). I can't imagine the box drawing that much.
@@geepeezee5030 Idle with 1 port used i can get it down to 13.5 watts. Beating on it with 4 things plugged in and two on wifi and doing 500mbs, i can easily get it to 25 watts. And its rated max sustained power usage is 40 watts.
I tried their system for 3 months. I really needed the business class, but they talked me into residential class. There were so many restrictions, that I had them yank it out. Their business class was too expensive. I fell back to 1GBs Spectrum Business Class. Got a discount, and this rocks.
What kinds of speed issues were you having? I’ve seen 2.5Gb and 5Gb work through the BGW320 reliably plenty of times. I always enable pass thru, disable packet filters and turn off all the advanced firewall features. After that it seems to work fine.
What are the chances of a cheaper alternative to the was-110 coming along? I'd love to do this, but I'm not actually having any issues with passthrough mode so the cost/benefit isn't adding up for me. Thanks for putting this on my radar though!
We had the WAG-D20 but didn't work out right with upload speeds. I haven't seen anything cheaper being talked about as it needs the ability to change the serial and such.
Hey man, just wondering, have you tested using the Juplink directly as a transceiver instead of as a rig to program the SFP module? My ISP uses a quite massive ONT+T1 Terminal+AP combo just like AT&T's (and there are other tutorials involving xPON SFP modules to get it working around), but my main router is an UniFi Cloud Gateway Ultra which doesn't have SFP. If the Juplink can be used to completely bypass my ISP's ONT, it will be amazing. At least their ONT doesn't cripple my network speeds on bridge mode. Oh well.
@@digiblurDIY I got mine setup today, your tutorial was a huge help, thank you. That being said, I am not getting full download speeds. The download speed seems to be half and then over time it degrades to less than 100mbps. I am getting the full upload speed though. The suggestions in the troubleshooting guide hasn't lead to a solution. If/when I find a solution I'll post it. If you've experienced this any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I've tried the following thus far: -The optical power is within spec. -Change the link speeds manually.
Out of curiosity and a familiarity with more normal fiber setups, I looked up what's special about XGS PON modules. Sharing. They're sharing a single fiber uplink with passive optical splitters. You and up to 256 of your neighbors are sharing a single 10 gigabit fiber being sold 1-5gb each. It needs to be 10x the cost of normal 10G-LR 10km modules because it has to handle the optical degradation of all those splitters, plus the timesharing logic. No wonder it has a massive heatsink.
The standard is up to 128:1. AT&T is doing 64:1 for XGS-PON. (32:1 for GPON) In most cases, there's only one splitter. (it's possible to cascade them, but T isn't known to do that.) An ONT is "expensive" (vs. a simple optic) because there's a full computer and other logic in there doing complicated things. That it can be shrunk into the form factor of an SFP is pretty impressive. (even the logic of an OLT can fit in one, too.) The BGW-320 is such a massive PoS because it's far, FAR more than just an ONT. There's an Nbase-T chip in there, as well as a 1G (4port) switch, 3 wifi radios, and a significantly powerful processor. But, yeah, 40W for all that is quite wasteful. (for example, my entire laptop - HP Elitebook 8560w - is using 28W right now.)
Massive beast of a box for sure. Now I will say it is nice for average soccer mom just wanting a few devices on his/her internet in the house and call it done.
@@jfbeam GPON was 128:1, XG and XGS-PON extended that to 256:1. I agree that's why the ONT is expensive vs a simple optic, and we agree on why they're so much more expensive. Apparently they're still cheaper than loading up racks with QSFP+ 4x10gbe ports running cheap 10g-LR. Being able to do the longhaul on a single fiber then use a passive splitter in neighborhoods must factor into the cost calculations as well, the less active equipment in the field the less maintenance they need. Pushing some of that cost to each unit may make sense at scale.
That is how all PON (passive optical network) works dude. The ont in your house or business is just a remote interface of the OLT (optical line terminal) shelf at the data center. If you want a dedicated fiber connection to the data center you are going to have to thousands of dollars a month for a business line and sign a lengthy (6 year is standard) contract.
Man I would love to do this for the heat / power / space savings in my little structured cable cabinet where my fibre comes in.. I already run OPNSense on a tiny R86S this seems like a great option however the cost is currently too high.
@@digiblurDIY I have 1Gbit service currently and a nokia ONT box that lets me get full speed already and is reliable.. If I move up to my ISPs 3Gbit plan I have to use their ALL IN one router that is bigger and has 10Gbe ethernet as an output.. I would MUCH rather put in this fibre device than put an ethernet 10GBe SFP+ module in my box.
As a tech at mentioned company, we don’t really mind what you do after we finish up. But if you make changes, just be straight with us about what you did-no games. Some of us do enjoy this kind of stuff, but don’t expect us to have all the answers. If something goes wrong, as long as the fiber feed from the wall is good, you don’t need to call us back out. Just plug it back in the way it was. Just remember, to close out a job, our systems have to detect our equipment for checks, so we have to reset everything if we come back. After we leave, please give it 30 days before messing with things again or at least calling in to the 1-800 number. Repeats on orders affect that techs metrics. Please be mindful of that.
Good tips! The techs I have always talked with were pretty cool. The guys burying the wire.... Oh my... I feel sorry for you techs having to deal with their nonsense.
Very true...that gateway gets a bit hungry and this is one less power supply to deal with. Massive difference too if you can jump from the GPON with separate ONT to just this simple SFP stick instead of those two other pieces of hardware. Definitely made it a pain if the ONT was in a garage then the gateway was in the house when trying to do battery backups for internet during power outages.
I'm curious why do you have that SFP+ to 2.5GbE adapter? I was trying to figure out why you would use that instead of putting the WAS-110 directly into the SFP+ port on your OPNsense router, but then I watched another one of your videos and saw that's exactly what you did.
Thanks for the detailed walkthrough and the before and after results too! By chance how do you go about looking at the SFP stick status when it's operational and plugged into the WAN port? Is there a way to look at the statistics like you could do on the original RG?
Interesting. Seems like when I type in the private address of the stick it doesn’t go anywhere and time out. Do you simply type in the public ip and access it from within your local network that way?
I'm pretty sure you can enable masquerading on a fortinet or unifi Enterprise router. Clone, the mac address of the modem and then plug the fiber up to that wan interface on your new firewall and again, you have to have some other settings enabled similar to whats showed in this video with GPON and your WAN has to he a SPF+ connection. So yes there are other ways to also do this Direct to a firewall. We would do something similar to this. When providers used to match bond the interface MAC address to their provisioning server. We would just clue the MAC address. Paste that in the interface of the wan port on the new firewall, and then we'd be on our way.
Is passthrough mode with ATT a software bridge or is NAT/routing still involved? You mentioned putting a switch in, but if ATT passthrough is a software bridge, its essentially the same thing.
I've been doing it the last year, but I had to use a tool to get the GPON Password from the router and emulate mac address, since the ISP won't give those. I must say tho, the hardest part is always to get the voice and iptv vlan working, since their tv boxes rely on it. But if it's a CATV box, there is a thing you can buy to give you the TV Signal to a coax.
Du der. Hvilken transceiver har du brugt før og nu. Jeg skifter til ny forbindelse snart, og ville også bare tappe direkte fra fiber boksen.? Får vist bare en gpon overgangs boks eller hvad det nu er.
I'm astounded that you are getting 1.2 Gbs, I have the 1G plan and the HA Speedtest integration tells me that I am getting 675-900 Mbs Up and 47-675Mbs Down.
Yeah that's some of the issues I had with the previous bypass method and the AT&T gateway at times. I can get 1.2/1.2 all day long now on the 1G plan. And the key there is, the speeds work to even sites off the beaten path, not just to nearby AT&T sites.
Is the Juplink adapter sold out? I'm not sure what the link you have in the info is showing. It shows me the transceiver is not available but the pon stick is. Does it come with the converter board?
I think they state the 5gig plan really isn't 5 gig though. Like 4.8 or something? No wait, that's the upload. They say 5.2/4.8 are the actual 5gig speeds.
I think the only thing I heard was some weirdness on the static IP blocks due to some limitations with the UDM line of routers. But there is a Ubiquiti channel on the 8311 discord with several peeps in there that have done it.
I did that over a year ago here. I put all on a server, running proxmox, pfsense, debian, etc, etc. I got directly to the server, no "dongle", "adapter", or anything.
Yea this video was confusing, why do it on SPF stick instead of on opnsense itself? All you need is some SPF+ stick which are like $20-40 on ebay. I wondered that the whole time. He's still having to run an entire OS on the spf stick and bypass through that, so it is still an extra layer. even if it is better than the AT&T box lol
@@sparkie5571 "routers" is too loose of a term, nothing is routing in these scenarios except the 1 single router running opnsense. the video shows how to bypass the at&t box that is just having SPF input and bypass to ethernet.. installing openwrt onto a different device and doing the exact same thing (spf input and bypass to ethernet) not even sure what you're asking though, be more precise & clear
I wondered the same thing lol. My friend ran a single SFP module directly to the wall and used a Ubiquity switch and plugged the SFP module right in an Boom picked up ATT DCHP IP.
would that be stealing internet ??? yes i knew fiber has weakness in security ...it has no way to disconnect service when connection is always on but how can you convert into IP and dns connection from fiber ??
I have att, and the routher you mention, can you just tell me what do i need to buy to plug in and program? your video has a lot of information but it must be a step by stpe way to make it easy for us to replace the ATT router. I need to lower my pin.
@@digiblurDIY you have too many links and i see you shows several tools, i really try to focus on one way as you do it. Please. I have te resources to buy what you have. i just need to know what to buy .
Fun video. I say that because AT&T maxes out at 768kilobit DSL in my area. POTS is not offered at all so the DSL is probably not actually possible. But make no mistake! This is AT&T and nothing is discounted. They still want 50 bucks a month for that speedy 768kilobit.
There are a few addresses around me that have 768k...crazyiness. Then the neighborhood adjacent to me has landline only offered from AT&T. Not sure you can still order that today though.
@@digiblurDIY landline is only for existing customers with it on there plan, it’s mainly just retirees that have it because they get it free or just older folk who don’t want to give it up
I am on AT&T 1GIG, with the BGW210. Has anyone tried bypassing the Nokia ONT, and connecting the WAS-110 SFP+. Also, I do pay for the 5 static IP's with AT&T, and was wondering if you have heard of anyone trying to provision the IP block from AT&T. I run two separate networks at home.
Same question here. It looks like it will be managed by the firewall/router itself at that point (I am on pfsense); but have not found any specifics on it.
@@networkcrasher looks like that will be the way to go. Let your firewall (pfsense / opnsense) get an IP address from AT&T; then configure your static block as Virtual IPs (Firewall >> Virtual IPs). This is looking quite interesting.
@@MarcoManjarres that's how i've been doing it for the past year. virtual IPs. If you want to source your traffic from one of the static IP's, you'll have to configure your outbound WAN NAT rule to use one of said static IPs
Unrelated question, where did you get that fan for your rack for your router? I use a similar router and it gets pretty hot (probably due to me having it in my garage, sometimes life works out that way). I have my ceiling fans constantly running but I am sure this would be way more effective. I appreciate the help, thanks!
shrug, I just put my pfsense in the passthru mode and assigned the MAC. I'm getting 950+ down 950+ up so i consider it "good enough" for me needs. Not a fan of the extra box but it does double duty for "DMZ" and "Guest" wifi that doesn't need to be on internal network.
Lucky. I had issues with the gateway resetting during firmware upgrades, I had this happen to a family member as well, seems to be a common issue. I also had the issue with uploads on the gateway for some reason. It wasn't there until more people started getting it in the neighborhood oddly enough. I thought it was just being oversold a bit too much but then I see that isn't the case.
@ryandickerson_ check it out pon.wiki/guides/masquerade-as-the-att-inc-bgw320-500-505-on-xgs-pon-with-the-bfw-solutions-was-110/#was-110-masquerade-setup
Can I just send you the was-110 and have you set it up? not sure if the switch converter I have isn't allowing it, I tried getting the juplink but its out of stock. I purchased the first option for SPF switch converter, still cant get into WAS. NEED HELP! Really want to get rid of the huge box :(
Does that one have the SFP+ port? I can keep up with their models. If not you'll need the switch/media converter to convert SFP+ to Ethernet for that router.
@@digiblurDIY Yes it does. 10G SFP+ port. Question: if I mess up something with programming the SFP module would anything stop me from just plugging my BGW320 back in?
@alldecentnamestaken that's the backup plan as you don't change one setting on the BGW320 at all. Keep it around as you should swap it back in during tech support calls.
@@digiblurDIY and what is faster speed you can push through it? I’m looking at 1G/1G but want to future proof myself I know they have 10G SFPs but they get CPU bound especially with firewall rules but for home usage should be minimal with masquerade setup and intra-VLAN restrictions between things like IoT etc
Hello, Great video! my question is more relate to the N100 opnsense router. I have just ordered the WAS-110, and it will be coming pre-flashed with the community. my question is are you able to enter the WAS-110 through the topton router/opnsense? i'm in 8311 discord and they stated that a lot of people have issue with was-110 with sfp+ cage (basically the n100 opnsense router with sfp+ in it). i don't want to buy the router then only to come to point where i cannot access the was-110 UI via through topton/opnsense. let me know!
Yes they can detect but people have been bypassing for years. Legality, are you stealing service? Nope. They control the speeds and if your "port" is turned up.
I have a Netgear XR 700 router that has a SFP+ port. I also have an extra ATT SFP module that they left me for some reason. Do you think theres a way to make the XR700 work like this?
@@digiblurDIY My OpnSense box has 2.5G RJ45 ports but no SFP+. I do have an inexpensive switch with 2.5G RJ45 ports and SFP+ ports. Are you saying I could put the WAS-110 in the switch and use my OpnSense box? How does that work? Do/Can I set the WAS-110 in "IP passthru mode" like the BGW-320?
How do you like your Moginsok opnsense box? Did you have any speed issues with WAS-110 plugged in it? What model do you have and would you recommend using the model that has an Intel I7 as the CPU for pfsense/opnsense (available on Amazon)? Thanks so much!
If you had the switch, why did you need the Juplink Converter to program the XGSPON SPF+ stick? couldin't you program it using the witch instead and save $30? Just curious.
I didn't have a switch available to do this process with. Went by the recommendation to get the Juplink since it was cheap and easy compared to other media converters.
Are you able to chance your router/modem mac address with ur custom hardware? That was one of the deal breakers for me with att fiber as sometimes I need to change my IP and you cant do that with their modem
IP's are bound to the account, not the mac or ONT serial. Get a new gateway, IP stays the same. IP renumbering can happen tomorrow, in a month, or in a number of years. Some have reported upwards of 5 years or more between IP changes. If you have a bonafide reason (DDOS attack), it is possible to get tech support to force a change, but this is worse than pulling teeth. Note, when your ipv4 changes, does the ipv4 /60 prefix.
@@geepeezee5030 that must be an ATT specific thing. With spectrum, I'm able to change my IP by changing the router mac address in the netgear settings. Then I restart and reconnect it to the Orbi modem they provide via Ethernet.
@@yxngboypolo Your description of spectrum sounds like it's coax cable based, not fiber. There's pros and cons to having a fixed IP. Running servers a whole lot easier. Burned an IP, nightmare to get a new one.
I am really going to miss my Spectrum 1Gig service - they just give a nice modem and that's it and I get 1GB upload/download with no data caps. Gotta move back in range of Comcast though =(
AT&T will hijack your DNS requests regardless of if you implement this masquerade or not. You need to disable 'DNS Error Assist' in your AT&T profile online. Google it.
Too much talking and waffle - Has anyone got a bullet point guide to doing this?
Yes. The guide I went through. Videos aren't for everyone.
Would you like your food pre-chewed too?? Open notepad and srart your own outline.....
The guy has a point. A LOT of blabbing in the video.
I am editing it down and posting on Vine soon.
@@digiblurDIY I need shorter. Can you do a 2-3 second GIF please thanks
AT&T will also sometimes push out changes that will take the gateway out of passthrough mode. Took me ages to figure out what was wrong. Their network support guys are hilarious. They don’t know anything about networking strangely enough.
YES! I've seen this crap too. Annoying as hell.
Typical monkey brain. Can do anything but know nothing.
Not so much "changes" they just push a new FW that has it revert to default backup values
@@RIRWINJR83 Which is different from the existing setting. Hence, it is a “change” in the state of that setting.
If it's not in the script, forget it your not going get anywhere- especially with the level 1 techs. The level 2 techs may or may not know a thing or two just depends on the tech. Level 3 guys are normally in the know!
Former AT&T Prem Tech here. I had a customer purchase there own BGW320 box which i thought was weird didn’t know customers could do that easiest ticket ever just had to come in install and SFP and activate. This bypass option in this video is awesome im geeked out by it. DIY is correct if you have to call AT&T for anything put the original box back in before calling in. Also if this bypass is installed I’m going to guess that the AT&T APP is not going to work properly either.
Yup. The app kinda freaks out and says something is wrong, no big deal though.
Lmao who gives a crap about the app
@@dmeyer6994the techs use the app as a troubleshooting tool shooting tool also when you call in for customer service they use the technician side of that app as well. So the company gives a crap about it even if you don’t. It saves a service call fee.
@@digiblurDIYyup the gateway sends some metrics back to ATT for connection health monitoring. I thought my NanoPi R4s was gonna be my end-game wired routing solution but now I need to get my hands on a was-110 smh hahaha
You're my hero. Ive spent over 40 hours on the phone with ATT and 5 damn 320-500s in a year. Cant wait to do this.
DO IT!
If your going through 5 gateways in a year, it's not the gateway.
AT&T ran fiber in my area in spring 2020. I got the service in Sep, 2020 and have used the same BGW320 modem the whole time. My 1Gb up and down, ideally gives me about 950Mb down and up, not 1250Mb.
I have had very infrequent issues and my speed test while watching this video was 940Mb down, 949Mb up with a 5ms Ping.
I think that ONT on a stick looks cool as hell, but I have no reason to actually use it at this time. The power savings wouldn't equal the price of equip for a long, long time. I don't have a PF sense router, just an old Buffalo 1900AC router for backup and to give a couple of extra ethernet ports.
@@TheJimmybeam82 Maybe, but there are lots of ways things can break.
@frommatorav1 you are on gpon. Gpon won't do more than 950mb
FINALLY! Not all heroes wear capes. Can't wait to get this going.
The 8311 firmware dudes get all the credit there. Amazing stuff.
I have been doing this bypass for a while. Rock solid.
Where did you get the SFP? The link in this video says pre-order.
AT&T Fiber guy is here right now installing. I have an extensive Eero network here, with hardwires to each WAP. No way I’m giving that up! Well, at least not after he leaves! Haha. BTW, he checked each room for signal from his WiFi router, only reaches 1/2 my house. Thanks for the tips here!
Getting XGS-PON?
Why would you let a quasi government agency into your home. I got rid of them as soon as their tech who came out to install their modem.
What is wrong with big corporations and want to come into your home!
@vt20247 for thr vast overwhelming amount of people doing what was don't in this video is fully unreasonable.
While letting the cable guy* in the house is standard and normal
As an employee for a fiber company (not ATT), you can actually contact your company and ask which PON type you’re actually running whether it’s B/G/X. I wouldn’t see this being worth it if you’re on Bpon but you can get the adjacent adapter based on your PON type
Can you give a cliffs on why bpon isn't worth it?
@@beanMosheen it’s kind of like using 802.11b wifi… would you still buy something now just to keep it running? Or request an upgrade?
That's if you can get through the stupid robot that tries to fix your internet before you get to a human, AND the tech you get even knows what the hell you're even talking about.
Great vid walkthrough, you're a prince among men.
My last house(which was a rental) had AT&T with the GPON + ONT, and I ended up doing a bypass through WPA Supplicant and extracting my cert files from the old gateway(shoutout to DSLReports folks for their work on that method).
Been stuck with Comcast at my new(owned) house, but finally AT&T is coming out to us(after 4 years of living here). I was a little concerned about not being able to do a bypass with the new combined ONT/Gateway. I'm elated someone found an SFP+ bypass. Now I know what to get to prepare for the fiber rollout.
Best wishes from a Texan.
Yeah I had to deal with crappy Cox cable over the years. Such a mess, I feel for ya!
Happy Friday my man! Thanks to your video and the 8311 team, I very easily got my bypass working using an Alta Labs Route 10 and AP6 Pro. The hardest part was waiting on Amazon to deliver them...super super slow. Haha. Anyway, thanks again!
Awesome! It's pretty smooth sailing after that, just works.
I’m one of those cool AT&T techs and I approve this message!
Nice! Always been a joy to talk with them on the visits. Burial dept...now that's a whole different story there.
@@digiblurDIY I 100% agree!! The BSW crew never bury it deep enough!
@cliffx7 yes! It took them three times and they kept breaking it. I noticed it has already popped up in two places and man I don't want to go through that again with them. Long story
Did this a few months ago. First time in my life I’m finally free of telco junk
THANK YOU SO MUCH! Seriously, all done in one day. Couldn't be happier :)
You're welcome. Enjoy the freedom!
I'm almost certain I know what neighborhood you live in because I live there too! They installed fiber here about a year ago and I asked them if I could use my own equipment. I'm glad there is a way to do that now and there is an additional benefit to it.
Nice! Welcome neighbor!
WOW.. I have been keeping an eye for this for ATT... other providers have been bypassed... I'm so on this with my PFsense
Cox fiber does the same thing with their modem box
so you have to get an SFP card in your pfSense router instead of RJ11? or do you need both?
i work for att in north austin and im so happy this came up on my recommended gonna make it more worth it to upgrade to a proper router
Nice to hear from yall! Most of the techs here and fiber splice guys have been super cool. The burial dept... Not so much.
@@digiblurDIY And now they are all on strike
Sounds perfect. They need to do their job better as it took them 3 or 4 tries and still failed. So many people still have fiber just hanging from fences and just sticking out the ground.
@@digiblurDIY OMG YES! I'm in north Houston area and we had to get the stupid burial crew out here three times before it was done "right-ish". When we called to complain about the initial bury, they sent the same exact two jack@SSes out here as the first time. After the third time we still ended up digging it back up in one area near all the water lines to bury it at a proper depth of 6" or more. And out here none of them speak English so you can't even call them out for doing it wrong, they just smile with that stupid grin they always use when they don't understand you.
Oh and to make it even better, they're a UNION job so your install tech can't even dig and bury the line if they WANT to. (eye roll)
@idontneedthis66 ours speak English but they complain the whole time. One dude buried it half way and left it on the fence and just left. I waved him down as he was leaving and he just waved and drove off. Like bro! Finish the job.
The techs.. Now they are cool as hell.
This going into the learning archive. Great video and don't aologize for" rambling", your just being you. Be you do you mano!!!✌🏿
I don't apologize. :) Embrace the trolls. They can fast forward and jump around as necessary.
@@digiblurDIY Ha Nice!
What. Great video. Love the style. Feels like a true og UA-cam video. No scripts. Love it.
Thanks! Old school and real without the script nonsense.
Nicely done. Really important to have some tinkering with those Routers and SFP modules. Kudos!
Couldn't agree more!
Excellent review. I did similar to remove an Alcatel i-240G-R. They put the MAC on the back label - so it was trivial to copy it.
Thanks!
Here in brazil the tech peoble on big ISP are buying on aliexpress SFP+ GPON to change and bypass the ONT, have a webpage with models that work. Or SFP Gpon or 2.5Gb ONU.
The good part, is that regional ISP are strongh here, and most uses ONU + Router, just need to request bridge mode
If you search here on YT "trocando modem vivo" "Se livrando modem da operadora" will Find some. Need a bit of work, but work, and I found people reciving with this 1.7Gb on 1Gb plan
That would be great if they gave us that option. Some ISPs do but AT&T is hell bent on forcing their gateway down everyone's throat so you don't get any option at all.
this is huge!!! as a LOOOOONG time at&t subscriber i've had this exact thought many many times and i'm so glad it's something as relatively easy as this LOL thanks!!!!!!!
Yes it is awesome!
Just wanted to thank you for the video and for introducing me to the community. Great stuff.
There is no need to upgrade the other firmware bootbank. The whole point is so that you have a way to switch from the latest one you just installed back to the prior one in case the latest is buggy. Why would you want to install a buggy version in both spots? The next time you upgrade, it'll go to the other slot, alternating back and forth.
Apparently the OLT can pick from what I read and I've seen people plug in the stick and the other boots. Now if I was upgrading revisions I would do just one at a time for testing.
Have had the hardware and guides to do this for the past 4-5 months, just havent had the motivation to go through the steps until this video dropped.. thanks
You can do it!
The block A and B thing is a case of easy rollback so if you was to brick it can be recovered so you do not need to flash it again it means when updating you can revert.
That's for stock. I don't want any stock on there at all. Now if I upgraded to a later community firmware then this is totally fine.
@@digiblurDIY but the whole idea is if the firmware fails because of a bad image can be recovered to a point that you try a different image or get it working. But by doing strait off before you have it up and running you are in danger of totally bricking your device. The other memory block will not be in use so you will be running that software not. I work in networks as a network security engineer and deal with all the time.
Hey @digiblurDIY , thanks for calling out our 8311 community! We have some stuff planned for the group buys (that might make them quicker), and we are always looking to improve.
Thanks again!!
You guys/gals are doing an awesome job with this stuff. Looking forward to seeing things improve. I did get in on one of the last group buys but I figured for such a critical part of my home why not have a backup.
Thank you for this video man, I definitely would not have been able to do this without you!
Glad I could help!
Thank you!!!! You give me hope in a world of ONT lockdowns. Although I realize what I'm trying to do won't have a "paint by numbers" solution, I'm going to try and get one of these working with Telmex Fiber in Mexico. If anyone here happens to be from Mexico and has already done some work on this, please contact me.
You are a saint. Thank you for this, I've been looking for a way around this forever.
Glad I could help
the only way you used to be able to do passthrough was to acquire a certificate from a donor modem and create a wpa_supplicant file then feed it to podman which can run on a unifi dream machine pro. certs were issued for 5 years so you'd have to repeat the process when the cert expires since that's how they identify their devices (at least did at one point) so you essentially would just spoof a modem.
So it seems this method does not require a donor certificate?
The method in this video doesn't require anything donor. It uses your existing RG and works like a champ. No rooting, or donors needed. Just a a programmable SFP PON and some tech muscle to get the job done.
This is incredible. I've been wanting to do the bypass ever since we moved in, but couldn't get a donor modem that was compatible. So happy to see that's no longer required.
If you had a 320, pulling its cert was a pain. Getting one from a 210 (or 5268) was easier. These days, they've relaxed the 802.1x requirement for XGS-PON deployments with the 320. (why make the RG authenticate to itself?)
Wow that's expensive fiber rates. We pay $25 for the 10G here in Spain.
Our building is serviced by three different networks, thank god for competition.
Digi?
That's very cheap. I pay $100 a month for 1GB cable.
Damn cheap. Coax cable vendors are even higher here. $200ish for 2000/35 for unlimited tier.
Because it’s government subsidized, and the U.S. also is a much larger land mass to maintain a fiber network on than Spain - 19x bigger at that.
@@jfordnetregardless, lack of competition = higher prices
I don't have AT&T fiber, but watched the whole video. 😅
We done!
Same I even subscribed
Same here videos like this are gold
@ca2997 thanks yo!
Love this!! I’ve been waiting for a YT vid on how to do this and now I know how to do it with my Frontier FiOS!!
Fairly close procedure and been working great here for several weeks.
Frontier FiOS allows you to plug in the Ethernet from the Ont into your router. Att requires this because they don’t allow you to use your own router with the att Ont.
@@Sdoc0798Yeah you are right but it’s a massive box that I don’t really need to have so I would prefer to just go direct sfp+ to my router
Didnt know I needed this, yet here I am. Thanks for the lead... Now if theyd do another group buy, and I could just find a couple grand laying around to upgrade my switches to multigig...
Thankyou so much for this video. After watching this I took the dive and bought everything including a UCG Max a few flex switches and u6 ap's. My download speeds after the bypass dropped in half and I can't understand why?
Are you using wired?
@@digiblurDIY Yes. The media converter I was using was slowing download speeds by more than half. I was getting no more than 450 download but the upload speeds were over 1200mbps. I switched out the media converter to a different brand and now every thing is fine. I appreciate you for making this video and for taking the time to reply to my comment. Keep up the good work good sir!!!
One thing i thought about (since i cant use this because no 2gbs so cant switch frequencies) is the $200 adapter may pay for itself in 3-5 years in power savings if the BGW320 is drawing a constant 30-40 watts 24/7.
Saves you all the headache as well I see in the ATTFiber subreddit of latency/packet loss issues and middle of the night factory resets.
How do you get 30-40 watts? Did you use a kill-a-watt meter to actually measure? I external ont set up with a 320. The bgw consumed ~10-15 watts. Ont ~3-4 (nokia G-010G-A). I can't imagine the box drawing that much.
@@geepeezee5030 Idle with 1 port used i can get it down to 13.5 watts. Beating on it with 4 things plugged in and two on wifi and doing 500mbs, i can easily get it to 25 watts. And its rated max sustained power usage is 40 watts.
Good point that’s interesting
I tried their system for 3 months. I really needed the business class, but they talked me into residential class. There were so many restrictions, that I had them yank it out. Their business class was too expensive. I fell back to 1GBs Spectrum Business Class. Got a discount, and this rocks.
They are my only hope here. Broken and slow cable ISP that charges double is the other choice.
What kinds of speed issues were you having? I’ve seen 2.5Gb and 5Gb work through the BGW320 reliably plenty of times. I always enable pass thru, disable packet filters and turn off all the advanced firewall features. After that it seems to work fine.
Issues such as settings reverting on the gateway, latency issues with lots of connections, and slow uploads.
My question is, why can’t we use the Nokia SFP+ XGSPon module that comes with the unit/ AT&T?
I asked the same question way back... it is missing the ONT piece and is only a media converter.
THIS MAN IS A HERO. A LEGEND. A FREAKING GOAT! Thank you!!!
I love your disclaimer.
What are the chances of a cheaper alternative to the was-110 coming along? I'd love to do this, but I'm not actually having any issues with passthrough mode so the cost/benefit isn't adding up for me.
Thanks for putting this on my radar though!
We had the WAG-D20 but didn't work out right with upload speeds. I haven't seen anything cheaper being talked about as it needs the ability to change the serial and such.
When ordering what do you recommend for "OEM compatibility"?
I just put Intel myself since I had Intel SFP NICs but I'm not really sure it matters.
Perhaps I missed it, but did you mention static ip addresses? Maybe it doesn't matter with or without the HG
I didn't have any static IP blocks to test this with but I know others use the bypass and statics without any issue.
Hey man, just wondering, have you tested using the Juplink directly as a transceiver instead of as a rig to program the SFP module? My ISP uses a quite massive ONT+T1 Terminal+AP combo just like AT&T's (and there are other tutorials involving xPON SFP modules to get it working around), but my main router is an UniFi Cloud Gateway Ultra which doesn't have SFP. If the Juplink can be used to completely bypass my ISP's ONT, it will be amazing.
At least their ONT doesn't cripple my network speeds on bridge mode. Oh well.
Im at 7:00 but is this some kind of close source, propertary implementation? I cant see how a gib will be $200.
No, the firmware can be built yourself off of the github. github.com/djGrrr/8311-was-110-firmware-builder
What vendor compatibility do you recommend specifying when purchasing the XGS-PON through E.C.I Networks?
I told them Intel as that was my NIC I was using but it shouldn't matter much.
@@digiblurDIY I got mine setup today, your tutorial was a huge help, thank you.
That being said, I am not getting full download speeds. The download speed seems to be half and then over time it degrades to less than 100mbps. I am getting the full upload speed though. The suggestions in the troubleshooting guide hasn't lead to a solution. If/when I find a solution I'll post it. If you've experienced this any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I've tried the following thus far:
-The optical power is within spec.
-Change the link speeds manually.
Out of curiosity and a familiarity with more normal fiber setups, I looked up what's special about XGS PON modules. Sharing. They're sharing a single fiber uplink with passive optical splitters. You and up to 256 of your neighbors are sharing a single 10 gigabit fiber being sold 1-5gb each. It needs to be 10x the cost of normal 10G-LR 10km modules because it has to handle the optical degradation of all those splitters, plus the timesharing logic. No wonder it has a massive heatsink.
The standard is up to 128:1. AT&T is doing 64:1 for XGS-PON. (32:1 for GPON) In most cases, there's only one splitter. (it's possible to cascade them, but T isn't known to do that.) An ONT is "expensive" (vs. a simple optic) because there's a full computer and other logic in there doing complicated things. That it can be shrunk into the form factor of an SFP is pretty impressive. (even the logic of an OLT can fit in one, too.)
The BGW-320 is such a massive PoS because it's far, FAR more than just an ONT. There's an Nbase-T chip in there, as well as a 1G (4port) switch, 3 wifi radios, and a significantly powerful processor. But, yeah, 40W for all that is quite wasteful. (for example, my entire laptop - HP Elitebook 8560w - is using 28W right now.)
Massive beast of a box for sure. Now I will say it is nice for average soccer mom just wanting a few devices on his/her internet in the house and call it done.
@@digiblurDIY I'd call it overkill for the common "soccer mom".
@@jfbeam GPON was 128:1, XG and XGS-PON extended that to 256:1. I agree that's why the ONT is expensive vs a simple optic, and we agree on why they're so much more expensive. Apparently they're still cheaper than loading up racks with QSFP+ 4x10gbe ports running cheap 10g-LR. Being able to do the longhaul on a single fiber then use a passive splitter in neighborhoods must factor into the cost calculations as well, the less active equipment in the field the less maintenance they need. Pushing some of that cost to each unit may make sense at scale.
That is how all PON (passive optical network) works dude. The ont in your house or business is just a remote interface of the OLT (optical line terminal) shelf at the data center. If you want a dedicated fiber connection to the data center you are going to have to thousands of dollars a month for a business line and sign a lengthy (6 year is standard) contract.
Man I would love to do this for the heat / power / space savings in my little structured cable cabinet where my fibre comes in.. I already run OPNSense on a tiny R86S this seems like a great option however the cost is currently too high.
Yeah it is pricey but kinda nuts they piled all that into one SFP module.
@@digiblurDIY I have 1Gbit service currently and a nokia ONT box that lets me get full speed already and is reliable.. If I move up to my ISPs 3Gbit plan I have to use their ALL IN one router that is bigger and has 10Gbe ethernet as an output.. I would MUCH rather put in this fibre device than put an ethernet 10GBe SFP+ module in my box.
As a tech at mentioned company, we don’t really mind what you do after we finish up. But if you make changes, just be straight with us about what you did-no games. Some of us do enjoy this kind of stuff, but don’t expect us to have all the answers. If something goes wrong, as long as the fiber feed from the wall is good, you don’t need to call us back out. Just plug it back in the way it was.
Just remember, to close out a job, our systems have to detect our equipment for checks, so we have to reset everything if we come back. After we leave, please give it 30 days before messing with things again or at least calling in to the 1-800 number. Repeats on orders affect that techs metrics. Please be mindful of that.
Good tips! The techs I have always talked with were pretty cool. The guys burying the wire.... Oh my... I feel sorry for you techs having to deal with their nonsense.
Are you removing the TR-06nine , kinda bypasses that issue 4:42
Removing the whole gateway
Power savings is another reason to bypass
Very true...that gateway gets a bit hungry and this is one less power supply to deal with. Massive difference too if you can jump from the GPON with separate ONT to just this simple SFP stick instead of those two other pieces of hardware. Definitely made it a pain if the ONT was in a garage then the gateway was in the house when trying to do battery backups for internet during power outages.
I'm curious why do you have that SFP+ to 2.5GbE adapter? I was trying to figure out why you would use that instead of putting the WAS-110 directly into the SFP+ port on your OPNsense router, but then I watched another one of your videos and saw that's exactly what you did.
I was using that adapter to flash the community firmware and set the device up as it ignores RX loss. You can use other SFP adapters/switches
Thanks for the detailed walkthrough and the before and after results too! By chance how do you go about looking at the SFP stick status when it's operational and plugged into the WAN port? Is there a way to look at the statistics like you could do on the original RG?
Yes, you use the ONT stick GUI, there's stats galore there.
Interesting. Seems like when I type in the private address of the stick it doesn’t go anywhere and time out. Do you simply type in the public ip and access it from within your local network that way?
On Opnsense I had to create a virtual IP of 192.168.11.5/24 on the WAN interface.
Thanks a bunch! Makes sense. I’ll give it a shot and see what I can do. Appreciate it!
I'm pretty sure you can enable masquerading on a fortinet or unifi Enterprise router. Clone, the mac address of the modem and then plug the fiber up to that wan interface on your new firewall and again, you have to have some other settings enabled similar to whats showed in this video with GPON and your WAN has to he a SPF+ connection. So yes there are other ways to also do this Direct to a firewall. We would do something similar to this. When providers used to match bond the interface MAC address to their provisioning server. We would just clue the MAC address. Paste that in the interface of the wan port on the new firewall, and then we'd be on our way.
You can use any SFP+ capable router, media converter or whatever you want. You just need the ONT XGS-PON SFP module cloned to your billable settings.
Is passthrough mode with ATT a software bridge or is NAT/routing still involved? You mentioned putting a switch in, but if ATT passthrough is a software bridge, its essentially the same thing.
If you leave their gateway in place then yes it still has their firewall limits.
Just to clarify, this is only for speeds 2.5 or higher not 1 gbps???
No speed requirements. Service requirement only. You can be on the 300 mbit plan and be on XGS-PON
Been doing that for the last 5+ years here in Denmark 👍
Nice jealous of my friend in a neighboring town. They ran fiber like 20 years ago. Definitely ahead of their time
@@digiblurDIY i never did any firmware stuff on my sitck, i just put in into Opnsense and its works.
I've been doing it the last year, but I had to use a tool to get the GPON Password from the router and emulate mac address, since the ISP won't give those.
I must say tho, the hardest part is always to get the voice and iptv vlan working, since their tv boxes rely on it.
But if it's a CATV box, there is a thing you can buy to give you the TV Signal to a coax.
Du der. Hvilken transceiver har du brugt før og nu. Jeg skifter til ny forbindelse snart, og ville også bare tappe direkte fra fiber boksen.? Får vist bare en gpon overgangs boks eller hvad det nu er.
@@PatalJuniorwhats the tool you used ?
I'm astounded that you are getting 1.2 Gbs, I have the 1G plan and the HA Speedtest integration tells me that I am getting 675-900 Mbs Up and 47-675Mbs Down.
Yeah that's some of the issues I had with the previous bypass method and the AT&T gateway at times. I can get 1.2/1.2 all day long now on the 1G plan. And the key there is, the speeds work to even sites off the beaten path, not just to nearby AT&T sites.
great video i have a question though- which hardware device (router) would you recommend that can pair with the was-110?
Depends on if you want Opnsense or Ubiquiti. I linked a couple in the video description.
@@digiblurDIY thank you sir
So I should be able to plug the WAS-110 SFP+ directly into the X520-da2 that's in my PFSense box, right?
I used the SFP+ ports on mine.
Thank you for this and all your other videos @digiblur DIY!
Can I still follow this video if I see "Wave Length 1310 nm" on my BGW320-500?
Did you see my question? Thanks!
You need 1270nm.
@@digiblurDIY Dang :(
Are 2 gig plans available at your location?
@@digiblurDIY they are.
This is amazing. Would this be able to replace a Huawei ONT?
What model?
Huawei HG8245W5-6T or HG8245H seem to be the models Claro in Argentina use.
Is the Juplink adapter sold out? I'm not sure what the link you have in the info is showing. It shows me the transceiver is not available but the pon stick is. Does it come with the converter board?
Same issue I'm having. Is there an alternative to the juplink Mini 2.5g Fiber Optic Transceiver? Or alternate place to purchase?
Use the switch I linked
So since this is 10G will it get more than 4800mbps you get on the 5gig plan using the 5G port on their router? 5200mbps would be awesome.
I think they state the 5gig plan really isn't 5 gig though. Like 4.8 or something? No wait, that's the upload. They say 5.2/4.8 are the actual 5gig speeds.
Will this work with a unifi gateway+?
Yes. If you don't have SFP you will need a media converter
Can we get a tutorial on Fios? Would love to tinker with this thing. Thank you!
What ONT do they use?
Just found you, and you look like your a UniFi guy, does the 8311 discord have write-up on doing this with a DreamMachine Pro Max?
I have Unifi switches and APs but never been a fan of their routers. The write up is the same. Just plug in the SFP+ module and done.
@@digiblurDIY That's what I suspected, buts always good to see/hear from someone who has done it first before you drop the money yourself.
I think the only thing I heard was some weirdness on the static IP blocks due to some limitations with the UDM line of routers. But there is a Ubiquiti channel on the 8311 discord with several peeps in there that have done it.
I did that over a year ago here. I put all on a server, running proxmox, pfsense, debian, etc, etc. I got directly to the server, no "dongle", "adapter", or anything.
Yea this video was confusing, why do it on SPF stick instead of on opnsense itself? All you need is some SPF+ stick which are like $20-40 on ebay.
I wondered that the whole time.
He's still having to run an entire OS on the spf stick and bypass through that, so it is still an extra layer. even if it is better than the AT&T box lol
@@gg-gn3rewas a little confused that you’d now have two routers, instead of just the config on your main device. maybe i missed something
@@sparkie5571 "routers" is too loose of a term, nothing is routing in these scenarios except the 1 single router running opnsense. the video shows how to bypass the at&t box that is just having SPF input and bypass to ethernet.. installing openwrt onto a different device and doing the exact same thing (spf input and bypass to ethernet)
not even sure what you're asking though, be more precise & clear
@@gg-gn3re well ya that makes “sense” for you but I’m on the rapture WiFi 7 router threw ASUS for the qos features this is beneficial to me
I wondered the same thing lol. My friend ran a single SFP module directly to the wall and used a Ubiquity switch and plugged the SFP module right in an Boom picked up ATT DCHP IP.
would that be stealing internet ??? yes i knew fiber has weakness in security ...it has no way to disconnect service when connection is always on but how can you convert into IP and dns connection from fiber ??
No. They control if your port is active and what speed it is set to. They can cut it off in a moments notice.
Does this work for ATT subscribers who have a block of IP addresses?
Yes. 8311 discord has helped out a few people with this setup and their router setups
I have att, and the routher you mention, can you just tell me what do i need to buy to plug in and program? your video has a lot of information but it must be a step by stpe way to make it easy for us to replace the ATT router. I need to lower my pin.
where are you stuck?
@@digiblurDIY i just need to know what to buy exactly as you have to i can bypass and improve my gaming performance latency.
@@digiblurDIY you have too many links and i see you shows several tools, i really try to focus on one way as you do it. Please. I have te resources to buy what you have. i just need to know what to buy .
Just get the group buy XGS-PON from 8311 discord.
Fun video. I say that because AT&T maxes out at 768kilobit DSL in my area. POTS is not offered at all so the DSL is probably not actually possible. But make no mistake! This is AT&T and nothing is discounted. They still want 50 bucks a month for that speedy 768kilobit.
Which area is that? I had a friend who said that 64kbps was about 200 Euros a month in Brazzaville.
There are a few addresses around me that have 768k...crazyiness. Then the neighborhood adjacent to me has landline only offered from AT&T. Not sure you can still order that today though.
@@digiblurDIY landline is only for existing customers with it on there plan, it’s mainly just retirees that have it because they get it free or just older folk who don’t want to give it up
Can't say I know anyone with a landline. Even elderly retirees have embraced the cell phone.
@@digiblurDIY AT&T retirees won’t get rid of it cause you can still call out and in when power goes out
The fastest offered in my area is the 5 megabit, it has the number 5 is that close enough?
yes
If the sfp on the back of the 320 has a green sleeve it is gpon if it has a red sleeve it is xpon.
And I think yellow if it uses the Alt Optics one.
So this is only if I want to hardwire everything? So what about my wifi? So I'll keep the router on to use wifi?
Thanks!!!
I use wifi off of my own setup like I always have. I have 2 or 3 access points.
I am on AT&T 1GIG, with the BGW210. Has anyone tried bypassing the Nokia ONT, and connecting the WAS-110 SFP+. Also, I do pay for the 5 static IP's with AT&T, and was wondering if you have heard of anyone trying to provision the IP block from AT&T. I run two separate networks at home.
I have a block of 14 static IP's from AT&T as well, so I'd be interested in an answer to your question.
I don't have the static block so I'll leave that up to the ones that have done it on the 8311 discord. Pop in there and ask
The juplink converter you have listed is unavailable. Any other suggestions ?
I know others are using the switch as a media converter
At 2:31 mark, what equipment will this work with ? The one on the left with 2 wires or the 3 wire one ?
Neither of those. You need to be on XGS-PON with the BGW320 as the ONT
Is there a configuration field if you get a static ip block from att? Or is this just for a dhcp lease.
I'm also wondering this.
Same question here. It looks like it will be managed by the firewall/router itself at that point (I am on pfsense); but have not found any specifics on it.
you have to still get a DHCP address as thats where the static ip block routes to, then you just add those IPs to your wan int
@@networkcrasher looks like that will be the way to go. Let your firewall (pfsense / opnsense) get an IP address from AT&T; then configure your static block as Virtual IPs (Firewall >> Virtual IPs). This is looking quite interesting.
@@MarcoManjarres that's how i've been doing it for the past year. virtual IPs. If you want to source your traffic from one of the static IP's, you'll have to configure your outbound WAN NAT rule to use one of said static IPs
Unrelated question, where did you get that fan for your rack for your router?
I use a similar router and it gets pretty hot (probably due to me having it in my garage, sometimes life works out that way). I have my ceiling fans constantly running but I am sure this would be way more effective.
I appreciate the help, thanks!
this one? amzn.to/3Mkp8iu
@@digiblurDIY Yes, thanks so much!
shrug, I just put my pfsense in the passthru mode and assigned the MAC. I'm getting 950+ down 950+ up so i consider it "good enough" for me needs. Not a fan of the extra box but it does double duty for "DMZ" and "Guest" wifi that doesn't need to be on internal network.
its an IOT host :) thats where i keep by googlevoice voip box, and any laptop "im repairing"
Lucky. I had issues with the gateway resetting during firmware upgrades, I had this happen to a family member as well, seems to be a common issue. I also had the issue with uploads on the gateway for some reason. It wasn't there until more people started getting it in the neighborhood oddly enough. I thought it was just being oversold a bit too much but then I see that isn't the case.
How did you get the stick passed At&t serializing the on board ont on the 320 RG?
By entering the information for my account onto the new ONT
@@digiblurDIY you’re cloning the serial numbers?
Because without doing that, there’s no other way it could work on their system
@ryandickerson_ check it out pon.wiki/guides/masquerade-as-the-att-inc-bgw320-500-505-on-xgs-pon-with-the-bfw-solutions-was-110/#was-110-masquerade-setup
Interesting stuff Travis. Thanks for sharing.
does att static IP address work ?
Can I just send you the was-110 and have you set it up? not sure if the switch converter I have isn't allowing it, I tried getting the juplink but its out of stock. I purchased the first option for SPF switch converter, still cant get into WAS. NEED HELP! Really want to get rid of the huge box :(
hit me up on discord or email. You can discord.digiblur.com should send an invite.
Any idea whether or not there's a way to do this with a Ubiquiti DreamMachine Router?
Does that one have the SFP+ port? I can keep up with their models. If not you'll need the switch/media converter to convert SFP+ to Ethernet for that router.
@@digiblurDIY Yes it does. 10G SFP+ port. Question: if I mess up something with programming the SFP module would anything stop me from just plugging my BGW320 back in?
@alldecentnamestaken that's the backup plan as you don't change one setting on the BGW320 at all. Keep it around as you should swap it back in during tech support calls.
What box are you using for your OPNsense that you plug the WAS-110 into?
N100 Opnsense Router I use - s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DEYDIZN
N100 Router (Amazon) - amzn.to/3M2v3sh or amzn.to/3AfDyxK
@@digiblurDIY and what is faster speed you can push through it? I’m looking at 1G/1G but want to future proof myself I know they have 10G SFPs but they get CPU bound especially with firewall rules but for home usage should be minimal with masquerade setup and intra-VLAN restrictions between things like IoT etc
Whats the second SPF cable you have going into your router for?
That's the LAN side and connects to my ethernet switch. It is just a DAC cable
Hello, Great video! my question is more relate to the N100 opnsense router. I have just ordered the WAS-110, and it will be coming pre-flashed with the community. my question is are you able to enter the WAS-110 through the topton router/opnsense? i'm in 8311 discord and they stated that a lot of people have issue with was-110 with sfp+ cage (basically the n100 opnsense router with sfp+ in it). i don't want to buy the router then only to come to point where i cannot access the was-110 UI via through topton/opnsense. let me know!
Yes, I was able to get it working with the virtual IP to get to the GUI and just plugged it in. No issues.
How “legal” is this? Can ATT detect this and shut off your connection for not using their gateway box?
Yes they can detect but people have been bypassing for years.
Legality, are you stealing service? Nope. They control the speeds and if your "port" is turned up.
I have a Netgear XR 700 router that has a SFP+ port. I also have an extra ATT SFP module that they left me for some reason. Do you think theres a way to make the XR700 work like this?
You can use really any router even ones without SFP+, just needs a switch/media converter. You still need the WAS-110 XGS-PON ONT module though.
@@digiblurDIY My OpnSense box has 2.5G RJ45 ports but no SFP+. I do have an inexpensive switch with 2.5G RJ45 ports and SFP+ ports. Are you saying I could put the WAS-110 in the switch and use my OpnSense box? How does that work? Do/Can I set the WAS-110 in "IP passthru mode" like the BGW-320?
@checyr yup. You can use a switch as a media converter.
How do you like your Moginsok opnsense box? Did you have any speed issues with WAS-110 plugged in it? What model do you have and would you recommend using the model that has an Intel I7 as the CPU for pfsense/opnsense (available on Amazon)? Thanks so much!
Been enjoying it. No speed issues at all on the 2 gig plan. I have the N100 model and it is plenty of power.
If you had the switch, why did you need the Juplink Converter to program the XGSPON SPF+ stick? couldin't you program it using the witch instead and save $30? Just curious.
I didn't have a switch available to do this process with. Went by the recommendation to get the Juplink since it was cheap and easy compared to other media converters.
Are you able to chance your router/modem mac address with ur custom hardware? That was one of the deal breakers for me with att fiber as sometimes I need to change my IP and you cant do that with their modem
IP's are bound to the account, not the mac or ONT serial. Get a new gateway, IP stays the same.
IP renumbering can happen tomorrow, in a month, or in a number of years. Some have reported upwards of 5 years or more between IP changes. If you have a bonafide reason (DDOS attack), it is possible to get tech support to force a change, but this is worse than pulling teeth. Note, when your ipv4 changes, does the ipv4 /60 prefix.
@@geepeezee5030 that must be an ATT specific thing. With spectrum, I'm able to change my IP by changing the router mac address in the netgear settings. Then I restart and reconnect it to the Orbi modem they provide via Ethernet.
@@yxngboypolo Your description of spectrum sounds like it's coax cable based, not fiber. There's pros and cons to having a fixed IP. Running servers a whole lot easier. Burned an IP, nightmare to get a new one.
@@geepeezee5030 I see, so even if I were to get spectrum fiber, it would be the same ordeal?
@@yxngboypolo I don't know. You'll have to do some research. My only experience has been with att fiber so far.
I am really going to miss my Spectrum 1Gig service - they just give a nice modem and that's it and I get 1GB upload/download with no data caps. Gotta move back in range of Comcast though =(
Thank you for this video!! I havent been able to get DNS to work on my OPNsense router because of the stupid ATT router.
Ahh yes... Thats always been an issue with that box with DNS
AT&T will hijack your DNS requests regardless of if you implement this masquerade or not. You need to disable 'DNS Error Assist' in your AT&T profile online. Google it.
Juplink looks like this is out of stock, any other convertor you recommend?
You can use the switch I linked as many have used it.
Will AT&T U-Verse work with this ONT SFP?
TV service? I don't think so.