Not sure if its omitted due to energy mechanic reasons, but Chthonian Nightmare is going to be insanely impactful in EDH. Easy to cast and creates flexible value loops that synergize with all manner of ETB and creature death triggers.
Really surprised not to see Ocelot Pride on this list. There are a lot of ridiculous one drops these days but that one is definitely something else. An Annointed Procession that also makes tokens itself? Seems pretty good
I'd also include Emperor of Bones, Marionette Apprentice, Springheart Nantuko, Monstrous Vortex on this list as well as the MDFC lands, especially Disciple of Freyalise
I bought a ton of Worldwake/Battle for Zendikar packs back in the day, and so I had a bunch of mediocre Eldrazi. I made them into a few different decks based on the various themes and colors, one of which was Eldrazi Scions. I'm really looking forward to building Azlask, the Swelling Scourge with all my scion/spawn cards. Also, I'm really looking forward to making an Abzan land reanimator deck with The Necrobloom. Six help with that a lot, too.
Holy shit! I thought that amphibian downpour was “till end of turn” so I thought it wasn’t that good.. still potentially useful. Like a dress down affect. But I thought it wasn’t quite there. Now I want them for my cedh decks
Everyone is freaking out about all these big flashy cards. Talon gates of madara is going to be one of the most impactful lands in commander. If you view this as an MDFC with a kicker cost…it’s just wrong. No land should do this.
I think many people are too concerned about Kozilek's Command being too hard to cast. Many mana rocks produce colorless mana, some with colors like the talisman cycle. There are many, many utilty lands that only produce colorless mana like rogue's passage, kessig wolf run, or reliquary tower, to name a few. Even the nonbasic slot, such as the pain lands like yavimaya coast or filterlands like mystic gate can produce colorless mana. Kozilek's Command can go right into the Eldrazi precon for example with no issues. Any deck with a sufficient amount of colorless sources is capable of running it even if you have to run straight up wastes for some reason.
I know you said you weren't including "energy specific" cards... but Chthonian Nightmare is not energy specific... It includes energy in the card, yes. However, that is probably one of the top 3 most powerful cards to come from this set.
Question about Six. It specifically says you can CAST permanent cards from the graveyard. Doesn’t that mean you actually can’t get lands back, because you PLAY lands instead of casting them? Or were ya’ll saying you needed the Crucible in addition? I ran into this distinction in one of my decks and it kinda boned me. So either we got that ruling wrong (and I’m a happy boy) or Six works for any permanent BUT lands.
Yes, a token has always mana value of 0 unless the token is a copy of another permanent, in which case the token copies its mana cost (and thus mana value).
I'd say don't sleep on Waterlogged Teachings, but it's an uncommon and will probably be available everywhere for under $0.25 pretty soon. No one cares about instant tutor effects that cost 4, right? You're just gonna play it as a land most of the time because you're not running enough land in your deck.
Is nobody gonna talk about the potential of ugins unbinding in modern? I feel like there is going to be a really good yet annoying strategy around running 4 copies lol
@JakeandJoelareMagic Haha, I had to reread it to confirm. Sometimes, reading things online, you miss the punctuations and whatnot. If only...scry 7 on end step for 2 comes in MH4 haha
Ulamog as a reanimation target with virtue of persistence seems pretty good... As i think on an adventure it counts as mana value 9 ... and can later reanimate an ulamog .... Its such an ugly card ... 😅
@@JakeandJoelareMagic Nice. I've been watching your videos for years now, back when you averaged 1500 views per video. I used to comment on other content creators that your channel is better. But hey I guess you guys made it now. Good luck out there with wotc's dick in your mouths.
Everyone is freaking out about all these big flashy cards. Talon gates of madara is going to be one of the most impactful lands in commander. If you view this as an MDFC with a kicker cost…it’s just wrong. No land should do this.
It is absolutely insane to put phasing out on a land, especially since you can't respond to someone playing a land so that effect is going on the stack no matter what
How did we not have Nadu, Winged Wisdom on this list
We can't bring ourselves to acknowledge the simic value engine, we could have one video per set on this
in response to that shot at Simic I’ll reveal the top card of my library and put a land into play
Because it’s a garbage design no one will play against 😂
@@JakeandJoelareMagic but it is THE best commander card in the entire set...
Thinking on making a commander deck with Nadu, Winged Wisdom. Seems really op.
Big shout out to Jake and Joel for great MTG content!
Doing commander content about a modern set. Were going thrue dark places
I am with Jake, I love my Karador deck. There are so many cards in this set that will slot right in. Can't wait to get them in hand.
Vexing Bauble seems like it would be good in a lot of decks.
Not sure if its omitted due to energy mechanic reasons, but Chthonian Nightmare is going to be insanely impactful in EDH. Easy to cast and creates flexible value loops that synergize with all manner of ETB and creature death triggers.
Really surprised not to see Ocelot Pride on this list. There are a lot of ridiculous one drops these days but that one is definitely something else. An Annointed Procession that also makes tokens itself? Seems pretty good
I'd also include Emperor of Bones, Marionette Apprentice, Springheart Nantuko, Monstrous Vortex on this list as well as the MDFC lands, especially Disciple of Freyalise
Great vid, as always! 👊🏻
Dreamtide Whale will be a perfect fit in my Mothman radiation/infect deck
I bought a ton of Worldwake/Battle for Zendikar packs back in the day, and so I had a bunch of mediocre Eldrazi. I made them into a few different decks based on the various themes and colors, one of which was Eldrazi Scions. I'm really looking forward to building Azlask, the Swelling Scourge with all my scion/spawn cards.
Also, I'm really looking forward to making an Abzan land reanimator deck with The Necrobloom. Six help with that a lot, too.
@27:13 yeah that spells got very high big mana deck energy.
Amphibian Downpour seems like it should have been in the UB Final Fantasy set.
Holy shit! I thought that amphibian downpour was “till end of turn” so I thought it wasn’t that good.. still potentially useful. Like a dress down affect. But I thought it wasn’t quite there.
Now I want them for my cedh decks
Seems like a good place given the amount of spells that happen each turn!
@@JakeandJoelareMagicStella Lee and other dedicated storm decks are absolutely salivating over it
Thanks for the analysis guys!
Everyone is freaking out about all these big flashy cards. Talon gates of madara is going to be one of the most impactful lands in commander. If you view this as an MDFC with a kicker cost…it’s just wrong. No land should do this.
It does seems pretty spicy.
Great content guys, as per usual. I'm tempted to make the new Kozilek the commander over Butcher.
I think many people are too concerned about Kozilek's Command being too hard to cast. Many mana rocks produce colorless mana, some with colors like the talisman cycle. There are many, many utilty lands that only produce colorless mana like rogue's passage, kessig wolf run, or reliquary tower, to name a few. Even the nonbasic slot, such as the pain lands like yavimaya coast or filterlands like mystic gate can produce colorless mana.
Kozilek's Command can go right into the Eldrazi precon for example with no issues. Any deck with a sufficient amount of colorless sources is capable of running it even if you have to run straight up wastes for some reason.
Great breakdown and analysis as always!
My first commander from this set will be an Azlask 5 color experience deck, and a lot of these cards will be in it.
I'm really digging Ripples of Undeath... If you can get it out early in the game, the Value is going to be Amazing
As a main commander player, this set feels amazing. I know nothing about modern but man it has loads of amazing cards for commander horizons 3. ;)
Nice Magnolia reference!
Love rotating the commander format
Honestly I think Cemetery Tampering is on par or better than ripples of undeath. One more mana but the hideaway can get you a free bomb.
So many great cards. Biggest problem is what to take out of all my decks, and keeping power level low enough for EDH...
The Kaalia reprints are so good 🤌
The wife and I had a good long discussion about which Kaalia full arts are the best and we both agreed the MH3 one is just too good to be beat
Nice! Didn’t realize Drew Tucker was still active
Six with bouncelands is sick!!
White Orchid Phantom seems good as well. Targeted nonbasic land destruction with a 2/2 flying first striker is a good rate.
Warren Soultrader is going into my Chatterfang Deck For Sure. 💯
Thanks JaJaM!!! This set looks so crazy good.
Can't wait to get my collector box!!
Wow. Powerbalance is a really cool card.
I know you said you weren't including "energy specific" cards... but Chthonian Nightmare is not energy specific... It includes energy in the card, yes. However, that is probably one of the top 3 most powerful cards to come from this set.
Always appreciate the excellent content, gentlemen 👌
Glad wizards has these guys on their radar
Wight of the Reliquary seems fun as well. Another way to search for Maze's End.
Loving some of this new art!
Look at all these potatoes we farmed 🥔!
This set looks lit. Excited to draft
Does an amphibian downpour feel like warmp?
Oh my god
I want to make it rain frogs on my opponent's commanders
Thank you so much for this video. This is the first I am hearing of this set
Can’t wait to cast ulamog against someone
Necrodominance seems fine but it's not going to have much of an MtgA impact yet because of the lack of free black spells, notably Soul Spike et al
Question about Six. It specifically says you can CAST permanent cards from the graveyard. Doesn’t that mean you actually can’t get lands back, because you PLAY lands instead of casting them? Or were ya’ll saying you needed the Crucible in addition?
I ran into this distinction in one of my decks and it kinda boned me. So either we got that ruling wrong (and I’m a happy boy) or Six works for any permanent BUT lands.
Does birthing ritual work with flameshadow conjuring, i ve read places where copies retain the originals cmc
Yes, a token has always mana value of 0 unless the token is a copy of another permanent, in which case the token copies its mana cost (and thus mana value).
17:21 there's a dog that phases out of existence
I am 100% bu8lding the necrobloom
All these cards are cute. None of them make it into any of my decks. However, there is an uncommon from MH3 that I'm definitely playing.
I'd say don't sleep on Waterlogged Teachings, but it's an uncommon and will probably be available everywhere for under $0.25 pretty soon. No one cares about instant tutor effects that cost 4, right? You're just gonna play it as a land most of the time because you're not running enough land in your deck.
I’m really on the fence of buying a box for this set. It’s pure gas but financially ridiculous.
I’m stoked for this set. So many new staples.
There’s literally not a single bad rare that I can think of….
Great vid and analysis!
I think phlage is a great commander card in all sunforger decks as a big threat that gives you some removal for small value creatures
I absolutely knew Grim Hireling was good af and nobody noticed till now 😂 i got 4 for like 10$
WOC getting it so right by sponsoring my boissss
Eladamri is replacing my vizier of the menagerie in my mono g deck. 1 mana cheaper and helps cheat creatures onto the battlefield.
Love the content yall
How about Nadu in infect modern?
Invert polarity is too good
Completely missed Nadu, Winged Wisdom, undoubtedly the strongest commander from the set.
Thank you for this video, it is very helpful!
Eladarmi for 3 CMC is insane.
17:54 I learn something new every day. 🥪
Ah, I see the ancient tradition of "Blue shall be absurdly overpowered and pushed" is continuing without a hitch.
Thrown Dynamo
Eladamri the original was good from Tempest, his redo is pretty strong
birthing ritual soo good
No Eldrazi Homunculus. 1/10
I'll call up mommy Emrakul and see what she can do for ya, Jank
Hard agree
@@zackfro Emphasis on the hard.
@@CrackinJank that's what she said
Powerful set. The power creep is real.
Wotc sponsoring a commander video instead of a modern video. Is this truly Commander Horizons 3?😂
Pumped to draft this set too, it's going to be hilarious.
Is nobody gonna talk about the potential of ugins unbinding in modern? I feel like there is going to be a really good yet annoying strategy around running 4 copies lol
I do this for the metrics so that the video might be considered a success.
Yaaaas!!!! Slay Jakey Joe!
I can't wait to use Glaring Fleshraker in my Teshar deck ;p
So many good sleeper cards for specific strategies in this set
Birthing Ritual will always make you put the cards on the button of your library. If it was scry 7, that would be busted lol
Omg lol 😂 You're totally right. We are just gonna casually ignore whole lines of text and make up our own
@JakeandJoelareMagic
Haha, I had to reread it to confirm. Sometimes, reading things online, you miss the punctuations and whatnot. If only...scry 7 on end step for 2 comes in MH4 haha
@@K1aymor I think we can agree two Mana enchantment that lets you scry 7 every turn, that's a good card
Ulamog as a reanimation target with virtue of persistence seems pretty good... As i think on an adventure it counts as mana value 9 ... and can later reanimate an ulamog .... Its such an ugly card ... 😅
I love lamp?
Engagement!
Who’s excited for commander horizons 3??
Sponsored by WOTC 🎉💰💰🥳🎂
I literally don't know how to play this game.
Git gud nob
You lost me at "big shoutout to wizards of the coast for sponsoring this video"
Your username nearly being "lol shit take" is really appropriate
@@JakeandJoelareMagic Nice. I've been watching your videos for years now, back when you averaged 1500 views per video. I used to comment on other content creators that your channel is better. But hey I guess you guys made it now. Good luck out there with wotc's dick in your mouths.
The mdfcs are so stupid
Those of us who are actually good at the game figured out which cards are good for edh before you ever could LOL
Lol HELL yeah 👍 what do you think it is that sets you apart as elite?
Everyone is freaking out about all these big flashy cards. Talon gates of madara is going to be one of the most impactful lands in commander. If you view this as an MDFC with a kicker cost…it’s just wrong. No land should do this.
It is absolutely insane to put phasing out on a land, especially since you can't respond to someone playing a land so that effect is going on the stack no matter what