REVERTED: Higher Age Units NERFED on Beta + Early Age Speed Up! | Forge of Empires News

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  • Опубліковано 17 лип 2024
  • On the Forge of Empires Beta server, it was recently announced that there would be a test of making the earlier ages in Forge of Empires (specifically Iron Age through Colonial Age) easier. Everything from forge point costs to goods, coins, and supplies required for research have been reduced. That's not all - the campaign map has been made easier to fight, with faster province scouting times, buildings are cheaper and construction time is faster, and the entire early ages questline has been rewritten. It's been shortened, with new requirements and absolutely no side quests whatsoever. Other ages, Industrial Age and above, have not been changed at all... or have they?
    Unfortunately, it looks like higher age units may be affected by this change, specifically if you are in the Colonial or Industrial Ages. There's some bad news here, so let's talk about it.
    Beta Announcement: forum.beta.forgeofempires.com...
    My Discord Server: / discord
    Higher Age Units Guide: bit.ly/Un14_HAUG
    All my Guides/Info: resite.link/UBERnerd14
    Timestamps:
    0:00 Intro
    0:03 Ranking Points
    1:01 Early Ages Speed-Up
    2:18 Analysis
    6:06 Conclusion
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  • @UBERnerd14
    @UBERnerd14  4 місяці тому +5

    This change has been reverted as of 2/27/2024 on Beta. The questline will be the same as before.

  • @MooingCatFoE
    @MooingCatFoE 11 місяців тому +8

    Will be interesting to see how it pans out, looks like things might still be manageable if you plan ahead, but definitely sucks if you don't.
    Also sad to see PE untis in CA no longer possible, I had a lot of fun cheesing with a PE Tank + LMA/CA artillery in CA :P

    • @UBERnerd14
      @UBERnerd14  11 місяців тому

      Yeah. For hovers + OF, there's still PE techs to research, but it'll be harder to do it all in the industrial age. It also makes it much more of a strategy that we'll see on established players' new cities rather than the small number of new players able to learn about them early enough.

  • @YHurtado.
    @YHurtado. 2 місяці тому

    Good to know it has been reverted, it was not applied to all players, just a few, I was one of them, I had to age up to HMA just to have the AD and PVP, terrible situation, 2 Rivals back it was necessary AD to complete the building challenge.
    I would love to have HAU, so, I'm happy to be free to try...

  • @ljc.youtube
    @ljc.youtube 11 місяців тому +2

    good ideas to keep new players, during lower eras it's like pulling teeth to get goods traded on a regular basis unless you are lucky enough to land yourself in a kind guild, but most players as they progress have little to no lower era goods left, so they should do something about that as well, more deposits available, larger yields from daily productions etc. A knight's pavilion as a regularly occurring bonus as you move up would be very helpful as a mini traz. We get coin boosts, supply boosts, attack and defense boosts, why don't we get forge point boosts? why don't they offer expansions or expansion fragments in the antiques dealer? why can't we trade or sell unwanted blue prints? I am in space age titan, and they still send me Colosseum prints, really? Colosseum? silly silly silly... lol. thanks for the info.

  • @davidmilton4862
    @davidmilton4862 10 місяців тому

    I came across a city I started a city a long time ago. Im in LMA and have Colonial troops. I have 2 EMA research left(1 goods, 1 expansion) and 1 HMA research (1 residential) 8 researches left in LMA. Im on the Send the Scouts story line. Can I still get the Hovers in Indy or has that ship sailed. Can I follow the old guide?

    • @UBERnerd14
      @UBERnerd14  10 місяців тому

      Yes. You can still get higher age units. The point of this video is to say that it might just take a little bit more planning to do so, but otherwise it is all the same steps

  • @hanswurst850
    @hanswurst850 8 місяців тому

    Hi man i got a Question regarding the Oceanic Future Questlines.
    Iam in the progressive Era, using Hovers and Turrets thanks to your Guide
    Iam at the Quest "Convice" its called probably where you have to produce 10 "crawfish"
    I wont be able to complete this quest ofc which is fine.
    But it want to progress further on the Continental Map for get more City extensions.
    Can this block my repeatable Quests somehow?
    Ive writte you the same on Reddit but i dunno if your still active there so i thought id give it a try here too

    • @UBERnerd14
      @UBERnerd14  8 місяців тому

      I didn't get anything on Reddit. Not sure where you sent that message. But anyways, feel free to keep going on the map! There are no more bonus questlines or anything like that, so you can go as far as you want to get more expansions.

    • @hanswurst850
      @hanswurst850 8 місяців тому +1

      Wrote to Ubernerd14 there too. But np anyway if this doesnt cause any Problems ill proceed. And thanks again for the 100th time for you help :) @@UBERnerd14

  • @hatsunemiku5586
    @hatsunemiku5586 3 місяці тому

    this thing made me mad because of no way to complete next eras quests and no AD and PvP tower in EMA, I also didnt have any bonus quests about EMA mountains and after they reverted it, I had no way to complete quest promising some diamonds for aging up so my effort in leveling up Chateau Frontenac was just a big waste of time at the time, fortunately now I have previous quests now and I have also bonus quest line about North America bonus provinces (I'm currently in HMA)

  • @pedromendes6846
    @pedromendes6846 11 місяців тому

    On the other hand it seems way faster to get higher age troops since you can get to industrial pretty quick so leveling up new towns isn't as tedious as before

  • @JamonSerrano4
    @JamonSerrano4 11 місяців тому

    I'd be fine with hover tanks in PE, it's not a big issue. The main problem is that the last side quest (Truth or Dare) of the PME story line is now seems to be mandatory. I cannot ignore it, it must be aborted or completed to step forward to CE story quests. I'm stuck to PME quests.

    • @UBERnerd14
      @UBERnerd14  11 місяців тому +1

      You don't abort or complete it. Simply continue working the map to TE or FE, then about it complete a quest OTHER THAN truth or dare, and the story quests will jump to that slot

  • @TheNemesis442
    @TheNemesis442 5 місяців тому

    did they end up implementing this change? I can't find it in any live updates.

    • @UBERnerd14
      @UBERnerd14  5 місяців тому

      It still is in testing

    • @TheNemesis442
      @TheNemesis442 5 місяців тому

      @@UBERnerd14 thats good to know i guess....i made a new account and happened to be one of the ones tested. I thought it was live since it happened to me, and told my guild about it, to warn everyone. Some other guildmates said I was putting out wrong info - thought they were gaslighting. Just bad luck, lol.

  • @dreadfulcadillacs2627
    @dreadfulcadillacs2627 11 місяців тому +3

    Terrible update for FOE - how is removing content (quests) going to help gameplay?

  • @SomeonesVideos
    @SomeonesVideos 11 місяців тому

    Oh. I watched half of this, wondering how SAT troops were going to get worse, before I realized what the video was actually about.

  • @hardrichhardstitch4828
    @hardrichhardstitch4828 9 місяців тому

    What if innogames resolve skipping questline? What if you cant skip ce and te questline?

    • @UBERnerd14
      @UBERnerd14  9 місяців тому

      Then that would be sad.

  • @ThomasGregory-ok2sc
    @ThomasGregory-ok2sc 11 місяців тому +8

    This is terrible news!!!! I have no care whatsoever about all this balancing and speeding up of the tech tree rubbish but Ragu Silvertongue's betrayal being removed???????? Too far Inno, too far. All jokes aside I was looking forward to this part of the questline as I have heard about it from my guildmates but depending on when these changes are put into effect, I will never get to see this happen. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

    • @UBERnerd14
      @UBERnerd14  11 місяців тому +3

      Haha my feelings exactly. Best part of the FoE story, gone :P

    • @bl8388
      @bl8388 11 місяців тому +2

      Seems to me "balancing" is mostly about trying to force everyone to spend more money.

  • @mixon7832
    @mixon7832 11 місяців тому +2

    Horrible information to hear. Maybe they change mind about quests, also by deleting side quests, they remove chance to enjoy diamonds. For these 6 ages.

  • @user-kj9um9gy8u
    @user-kj9um9gy8u 11 місяців тому

    Oh!! All these updates are interesting. Inno wants to introduce changes is welcome. Hope they do not remove certain game plays or make it impossible to do them because it provides variety and thats what makes this game interesting.
    Getting higher age units is not a simple task. Just to understand all that is involved, it took me some time. Now it all looks easy, but for a first time it can be confusing as hell. There are so many pit-falls and it needs some preparation also. So i only wish they keep this aspect of the game.

    • @user-kj9um9gy8u
      @user-kj9um9gy8u 11 місяців тому

      Any idea when it may go live? Do you think it will happen immediately or will it wait for some time. I have 1 city where I want to bring to Indy after sometime. Still some more preparations to be done. But if this is an immediate happening, then I may have to do this jump sooner and to have a chance.

    • @user-kj9um9gy8u
      @user-kj9um9gy8u 11 місяців тому

      By the way Ubernerd, I read your article on the higher age units so many times. Now the Map and route is in my mind, but for the first time, it was quite an experience.
      Actually I jumped from LMA to Indy in Birka recently and I didnt have enough Techs saved in previous ages. But I was still able to get to Hovers, thanks to your guide, Mooingcats' guide and FirstEmpire's videos. Used to watch them, read them and try to get everything right in my mind first.
      When I am in a position to earn will support you all for sure in any way. And of course Inno for providing this much quality entertainment.

    • @UBERnerd14
      @UBERnerd14  11 місяців тому

      My guess would be they bring it to live servers for testing within two months, but may not fully implement it for longer

  • @davek1694
    @davek1694 10 місяців тому

    So what if you're in IA and intentionally haven't unlocked Military Tactics in order to avoid being attacked....yet you have completed the tech Chain of Command....which you can do without completing M/T. Now, they change it and attach it to a tech you unlocked months/years ago? That's bs. Put it on the 1st tech of EMA.

  • @mouldyymoulton7814
    @mouldyymoulton7814 11 місяців тому +2

    This sucks! I never move up in age till I get all the diamonds from quests, including all the unit ones. There a pain but that's my rules. It sounds like they might be nerfing diamonds again. Most of the time I finish the tech tree before the recurring quests start. They should leave the quests alone and do the other stuff. There should be more quests with chances to win diamonds not medals and 1 blueprint.

    • @UBERnerd14
      @UBERnerd14  11 місяців тому

      They aren't nerfing diamonds. I believe you're thinking of recurring quests, not side quests.

    • @mouldyymoulton7814
      @mouldyymoulton7814 11 місяців тому +1

      They give diamonds on side quest too. If it shows a random item you have a chance for diamonds and some side quest just give diamonds.

  • @jackrichardsen9271
    @jackrichardsen9271 10 місяців тому

    Higher age units have broken PVP Arena and aren't particularly necessary in other game modes, so I'm in favor of the change. My understanding is that in more recently released ages they fixed the problem by requiring that age's starport in order to even see the campaign map, so they've known it's a problem for a while. It's still not much of a fix since, watching your tech count, you can still have OF units in the Progressive Era.

  • @silasrobertshaw8122
    @silasrobertshaw8122 11 місяців тому

    Honestly I dont mind the "nerf" at all. Though I love camping in HMA to Colonial, and it feels like they want to move us out of those ages.

  • @Boi-dj3eo
    @Boi-dj3eo 11 місяців тому

    I don't like them shortening and removing story quests from the early ages. The early ages are the only ages where the story is somewhat decent. I am still waiting for silvertongue's return. Now it looks like I have to give up hope, unless beta players do something about it.

  • @adamn7125
    @adamn7125 11 місяців тому +1

    The new balancing is bs

  • @intronizator7713
    @intronizator7713 11 місяців тому +2

    So where are the nerfes? The only thing i see that players will no longer obtain and use highier units to fight against own era. Thats a good change, and i like that, bck it is more noob friendly rather than tryhards who plan how to finish all quest to get 2 eras highier units and so on. Skipping low era progression is not good for low era goods and gvg, but other then that its a good change, especially when there are long way in front of players towards new titan era. New event buildigs are also way stronger so they want you to move faster to next ages rather than beeing stuck like old times in low eras bck you had low attack GB.

  • @adamn7125
    @adamn7125 11 місяців тому

    I became aware of higher age units in progressive...

  • @bricefleckenstein9666
    @bricefleckenstein9666 8 місяців тому

    Tech tree costs are a MINOR reason people quit Forge of Empires.
    The frequent "pay to win" ads, and the EXTREMELY slow development are more of the reason - and the tech tree cost isn't a significant factor in that.
    There aren't enough people with enough PATIENCE for the basic design of the game, and that's getting worse every generation for the last few.
    I don't see these changes having a significant effect on player retention.
    The recent "massive forge points per space" inflation this year from event buildings is probably going to be more of a help to that, but the "more and more buildings" that don't show up in the AH to FINISH anything you don't manage to finish in an event is a major minus, as events are not always "returning" the same buildings to be worked on any more.
    The "kits" with choices from previous year buildings should help THAT issue a lot, though.

    • @UBERnerd14
      @UBERnerd14  8 місяців тому

      You're talking about established players though - not new players.

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 8 місяців тому

      @@UBERnerd14 I'm talking about both - the FP "inflation" will make it easier for new players to "catch" up to some degree.

    • @UBERnerd14
      @UBERnerd14  8 місяців тому

      True, but for a casual player, the tech tree costs are the major obstacle in their way. Those are the players this change is designed to help. To give them a bit more time to get into the game and get invested before they have to start slowing down and building a strong city.

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 8 місяців тому

      @@UBERnerd14 Exact opposite of what this change will do.
      They will be able to advance FASTER, and get too far ahead in ages FASTER when they're not ready for it.

  • @wildtv4233
    @wildtv4233 11 місяців тому

    getting higer age units wasnt intended gameplay anways

  • @atrociouscy
    @atrociouscy 11 місяців тому +3

    Just get rid off higher age era units its annoying as fuck in the pvp arena seeing top positions by industrial players doing the hover thing with attempts being cheaper to buy than lets say sat, or being useless in gvg map because u r capable to fight only below industrial, or them bragging about how many fights they have. Man up and come to the later eras and stop complaining already

  • @mikeyan4058
    @mikeyan4058 11 місяців тому +3

    Please beta players dont let them move cultural settlements to EMA, its crucial for IA campers like me