FISH LIES!
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2017
- Fish lies, fish lore, urban legends. A lot of good advice floats around on the web. Unfortunately so does a lot of MIS-informaton that if followed could lead to disaster. Here are a few I've come across.
What have you seen floating around out there that you knew was just not right? Post it below and share your thoughts. What "Fish Lies" have you heard?
Then, after commenting, please share this video, rate it and sub (if you haven't already)!
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#HAPNATION (IFG, Eaven Alexander) here:
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"Adam C" on UA-cam here:
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** FULL TANK BREAKDOWNS (subject to change) **
60 Gal Tank Details:
Filtration: 2 SunSun 302s stuffed with sponges, Biohome Ultimate and MarinePure Cermedia and Seachem Purigen + one sponge Pre-filter attached to the inputs. Also, I just added a Marineland Emperor 400 Biowheel to the 60 gal. to help with water movement and oxygen. It's stuffed with Pinky floss, sponge filled bio-balls and the Emperor sponge/carbon inserts.
Plants: LIVE Anubias and Java Ferns.
Rocks: "Wonder Stone" (available on eBay).
Substrate: Caribsea eco-complete Cichlid Specific (shells/coral).
Heater: Eheim Jager 300watt submersible (taken out during summer months).
Lighting: 48" T-5 on a timer.
**135 Gallon Tank Breakdown**
Filtration: Fluval FX 6 filled with sponges, Fluval ceramic rings, Seachem Purigen, ChemiPure Green and a SunSun 704B filled with "egg crate" pond sponges, CNZ bio balls, Pinky Floss, ChemiPure Green and Seachem Purigen. 704B UV is used a few days week.
Heaters are two 300 watt Eheim Jagers connected to a controller from Jehmco.com, keeping things at 78 F degrees.
Lighting 2 36" Beamswork LEDs and there are two SunSun Powerheads in there (dual adjustable head 1600 gph/800 gph per impeller).
Substrate is Nature's Ocean Bio-Activ Live Aragonite "black" (looks more gray than black which is fine since it doesn't show every micro spec of detritus).
Background and rocks are from Universal Rocks (use Jay Wilson's 15% discount code at check out!), along with some lava rock.
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Food: Mostly Northfin cichlid pellets 1 - 3mm, kelp wafers and Krill Gold (all available from NorthfinUSA or SuperCichlids). I also use Ken's Veg Sticks to help with digestion and provide some greens to the protomelas.
Here are some playlists you might also enjoy:
"African Cichlids: Best Tips"
ua-cam.com/users/playlist?list...
"Live Plants in a Cichlid Tank!"
ua-cam.com/users/playlist?list...
"Ben Ochart's Top 10 African Cichlid Videos" ua-cam.com/users/playlist?list...
"Canister Filter Maintenance"
ua-cam.com/users/playlist?list...
"Cichlid Humor"
ua-cam.com/users/playlist?list...
The #Hapnation Playlist:
ua-cam.com/users/playlist?list...
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Visit my group on Facebook group page: "Ben O'Cichlid" at: / 34695. .
and follow on Instagram at: "ben.o.cichlid"
...and always remember that you are greatly appreciated because YOU, YES YOU READING THIS RIGHT NOW, YOU ROCK!!!
Great video!!
Good points, Ben!
I'd like to add a bit about fish death. When you buy grown, colored up fish, you never truly know how old the fish is. if you've had it for a couple years, it very well could have just died of old age.
Keep the vids coming!
Mike Hows EXCELLENT point that has caused unnecessary grief and worry for many fish keepers.
Good topic for video..u have beauty Africans!!!..i like the fish tale ur "fish only grows as high as the tank "..or air stones are not needed 🙄..
Good topics to keep in mind. Some different schools of thought on both topics. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Great info ben
Thank you DSC!
Those plants are rather impressive.
Thank you. Unfortunately this experiment didn't pan out. The bigger cichlids started nipping them and would have destroyed them had I not moved them into the 60 where the smaller cichlids didn't have much interest in them.
those clown loaches look great. What and how do you feed them?
Check them out in my more recent videos, they've gotten much bigger. They eat everything but mostly the high protein pellets I feed the cichlids.
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for keeping the hobbyists accountable and helping the hobby stay true :)
Great comment. Very much appreciated!
I really love your tip videos. They keep me very grounded. On the topic of fish changing color... I have a yellow tail Mbuna and just taking him out of the tank when doing maintenance he goes almost completely white to where you would swear he was an albino. Sometimes it takes him a while to color back up when he's back in the tank. This is just the way fish act in order to protect themselves, or because of water conditions. Coming from a fish store is one of the most stressful things for a fish and most will color down... some for quite some time and depending on the tank it gets put into the change may be permanent because of the tank design or water conditions. I have never had a fish color down and not come back to at least 90% when he settles into his new inviorment. That said, this is just my opinion and everyone should judge their own situation individually. Thank you for all the great videos Ben.
Spot on information - I particularly liked the "juiced" fish explanation. Thank you for another video chocked full of practical, logical, thoughtful information.
CJ Black Thank you for the kind words! :-)
nice aquarium. what substrate is that?
That was a CaribSea aragonite black (which actually looks gray)
My Male vc10 is terrified of a Taiwan Reef, Venustus, a blue dolphin , even a Frontosa . The rule I live by is that the word ALWAYS and NEVER are not of much use in the hobby .
well damn it I love you too!!! LOL I had to this just autoplayed.
i agree with #2 but we all know that the Auratus cichlid is a maniac lol
The Auratus and the Bubblebee seem to be the ones I hear the most horror stories about among ACs.
those people have never kept Chipokae... ;)
Thank you so much for all this information B I'm a new to cichlids n after watching so many video from u and IFG I love it again cheers from Ireland. 🤗
That's a great idea Ben! Would love to see the transition from juvie to adult.
Excellent video as always sir 👍😊
#5 is a Great one. And Eaven is spreading the best message of truth.
Yes he is, he is good for the hobby!
Thanks for watching.
Good idea for the transition video from Juvie fish to full grown/colored males. Always cool to see that transition in a fish. If you get the chance check out my newest video. Lemme know what you think👍🏻
First thing that comes to mind is 1 inch of fish per gallon lol
LOL, truth! Especially when you buy 20" for your twenty gallon and they all triple in size over 6 months.
On plants, i found out that my peacocks love to bite & destroy java ferns. I have to remove the ferms torn pieces & also a whole leaf almost every day. I put anubias in my all-hap tank. They tend to bite anubias from time to time but they don't bite off the whole leaf. May be i should change to anubias for my peacocks tank.
Always good insight and a video of your fish through it's growing stages would be cool
Hey Ben, I really enjoyed this video! Thursday is becoming one of my favorite days of the week because you have been very consistent with putting out videos, and I always enjoy watching them. Sometimes, I'm not sure if it is always fish lies, but it can sometimes be the ignorance of the hobbyists, and I don't mean that in a negative sense, but rather the hobbyists lack o research and experience. Anyways, my tank is finally getting moved over with me in my new residence Saturday morning. I really think your idea of doing that video you mentioned in a couple months is a great idea. I also think you doing a weekly Livestream is an awesome idea that would take your channel and hobby to incredible heights. Thanks very much for sharing
Great video Ben. Regarding juiced fish, outside of the things you mentioned; I find substrate and lighting also play a role in fish coloring down. If the fish was on dark sand with excellent lights it could look washed out on white sand and a shop light.
Good point Brian. IFG (Eaven Alexander, #HAPNATION) did a video on this subject and it makes sense.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Hi Ben
New to hobby and learning a lot from your vids.
I thought I heard you say in the “substrate w Adam C” vid, that you had gray aragonite.
I have not been able to find that online.
What brand?
Where can I find that?
Thx
The substrate was: Nature's Ocean Bio-Activ Live Black Aragonite. It was called "black" but was actually gray. Adam C was using what I think was black and white mixed together giving him a gray overall look.
my sevrum rips anublous
Hi Ben. How did you make your 3D background?
Are those big sun sun wave makers quiet? The tank looks so nice besides the powerheads. I really love the Sicce xstream series. A lot more compact
Ben,
Funny to hear you say that about the fish eating the plants. I have a Venustus that has eaten my Anubias to pieces but does not touch my Java Fern. So cool to see you have this happen as well because it is not talked about a lot on the internet. Another plant that might work great could be Jungle Val.
Thanks for the videos!
Reggie
You're welcome. I might have to look into jungle vail. I finally gave up with the big fish and now have plastic plants in there.
Ben Ochart just make sure it’s the large jungle Val and not Italian Val. The Italian is smaller.
Nice Video, once again. TY
Great vid. You are like the fish guru to me. I love the way you explain things in great detail. Im constantly learning in this great hobby, and with all the knowledge I've gained hopefully I can help other newbies lol.
The juice fish is a good explanation, I just recently purchased a pseudo from the LFS. It had a lot of blue in coloration. When I added to my tank I watched it color down as it fought for dominance with an more dominant pseudo.
They will lose color if they are sub-dominant. They try to look invisible, not attract attention, to prevent getting beaten up.
I bought Anubis for my mbuna, they must of love the bitter taste as it lasted all of 2 weeks 😂
I've had Severums and Clown loaches eat the young leaves of my anubias and then where moving on to the older leaves, before I moved it.
How are you getting the algae to grow Ben? Adam C doses with flourish, was wondering if you are doing anything different? Thanks again Gambler
I do dose with Seachem Flourish with each water change. That and some indirect sunlight is helping it grow.
Thanks Ben
Another good video and some sound advice Ben.
I have a young fusco how do u know if it’s a male or a female ?? I seen some viel coloration in between the brown on the body and face on certain angles and on certain times of day
Very true my friend great stuff
Thank you Dave, I appreciate the positive feedback!
A big lie is "more money is always the way to go" when dealing with fish equipment. As a big "diy" guy, this one used to drive me up the wall in social media until I learned to take a breath and move one. :-D
That's a great point Casey. There are some GREAT DIY ideas floating out there. Throwing more money at the problem isn't always the best way to go.
Thanks for watching.
Not saying fish don't just tip over sometimes they do. For me they tend to struggle along for weeks or months first and I wish they would just give up. Sometimes I think I should keep more aggressive fish so they would put the old ones down as they get to old.
Watching the slow death is not easy.
An exception to the rule = that Goliath Taiwan Reef lol
He is a "Goliath" Marcus, when I first got him I was afraid he wouldn't last long since, I figured, a fish that big must be very old. But he's lasted a good time and continues to look good (despite losing the "Tank Boss" spot to the Oto. tetrastigma).
Thanks for stopping by Marcus.
LOL! That was funny Eye Biters don't go for the eyes first. Got a laugh out that one.
I agree that we are always learning. Enjoyed the Video.
Remember the opinion that you follow should be your own, please take DEEZ videos as a second opinion from a complete stranger online.
Hey Paul, thanks for watching my friend.
Great topic and video.
Thank you Jack Jill! I appreciate the encouragement.
I've had Severums devourer mature Java fern and it was recommend for the same reason. They also liked Anubis nana new growth and started moving on to the adult leaves. Known other people to have the same problem with African and American cichlids. Ps A fish lie I hear all the time is that goldfish only have a three second memory and that Bettas/fighting fish don't need heaters.
Squadup great video all true facts love is love always
Question about cichlids can I keep two breeding group together in the same tank with a divider not much space in my apartment
Great video. I see that some of the fish in the tank scratch their bodies. In other fish I had, that was a pretty bad symptom, for ick or white spot. Maybe the cichlids are stronger and resist the ick easier?
The sometimes itch, sometimes mark territory and sometimes it's because they have parasites or the beginning of ich or some other disease. I keep an eye on it.
I do think these fish are pretty hardy but the clown loaches, being a "scaleless" loach will show signs first, so I use them as an "early warning system", so if the cichlids are flashing (scratching) but the loaches look good, I don't worry too much.
where do i get a rock wall like that for my background?
Contact "Universal Rocks" in Texas and use the "Jay Wilson" code for a discount at check out. My 3D background is called "Rocky Thin" and is around a 1/2" thick. I needed that because only have 18" from front to back. Tell them Ben Ochart sent you 😉
I have to agree with number 2
Yes #4 has me inclined to agree again lol. Great video been
Deon 0026 Hey Buddy, thanks for stopping by and I hope life is going GREAT for you! :-) B
1 aquarium lights also effect colour
I totally agree Ben, prime example my German Red, I had to get rid of! They don't have the reputation of being aggressive, but he was just as bad as a VC 10 or any predator hap
Really good video as always, quick question, could you tell me the name of the peacock with the orange body and white fins please. that's one nice looking fish
Hello Adam, can you tell me where in the video that fish shows up? I want to be sure I'm giving you accurate info.
My Oscar used to destroy all plants within minutes of it entering his tank lol
Yes, I've heard that Oscars are hard on plants. I have a cichlid, a "polystigma" that is supposed to be a distant cousin of oscars. As he get bigger I see similarities.
The Advice you should follow should be your own!
Deon 0026 FISH Gospel! :-)
ya 😎👍🏻👍🏻
You have beautiful tanks and fish, but maybe nibbling of your plants is due to the desire to snack on algae. Maybe do let the algae grow abit as you are thinking.
+Ben Ochart in my experience if you feed the cichlids plant based foods at least every other day they tend to leave that plant alone as far as eating them anyway for re decorators I got nothin lol
I'm currently feeding them Ken's veggie sticks and Northfin Kelp Wafers with every feeding. The VC-10 and the Venustus seem to be the only ones interested in biting them. I'm gonna try Java Fern and see how that works.
Ben Ochart I've never tried java fern though I had success with bolbitis wich is similar good luck cant wait to see the results
"Let's get rid of fish tales."
Right on! #BenOchart
Thank you for watching KO!
the final lie: if you keep fish you will also maintain a fat stash of disposable income......enjoyed as always Ben
LOL, truth!
IFG ✌🏾. Im on to the next one
Wow Ben 0 dislikes. That's an accomplishment
Carlo M12 Don't jinx it Carlo, LOL. Thanks for stopping by!
Ben Ochart Ben if we can get to 100 with 0 dislikes........
The opinion that you follow should be your own peeeeeeeaaaaaaaccccceeeee...
KG cichlids No truer words, right! Thanks for supporting the channel Kevin!
Biggest fish lie...African cichlids are proper cichlids not wannabe cichlids, but as we all know CA/SA are the only real cichlid 😉😊😋 just kidding.
LOL, never heard that argument but it would be an interesting video topic.
The title? Maybe, "Your Cichlids are FAKE!" LOL, I'm sure it would get a lot of views and some great comments.
Thanks!