It would be greatly appreciated if a whole video on Section 33 could be made to explain to Canadians the possibility to legal self defense. I appreciate your videos and sincerely hope they develop more traction for Canadians. Lord knows, we've had a rocky history with illegal firearms/smuggling and a misleading/corrupt government and their media lapdogs contriving false narratives. Cheers, from the the East Coast of Canada (Never Forget, Portapique).
While the legal side of tings certainly are not my specialty, I'll definitely keep this in mind. I have spoken to a lawyer about this part of the CCC and unfortunately the more questions I ask the more questions I have. It's one of those inexplicably complicated grey areas that just seem to get bigger and more complex the more I look into it. Thanks for the kind words and for your patronage of the channel.
@@canadianoperator wonder if there's a Runkle video on that? Maybe get him to do one, or a collab video with the two of you in back and forth interview/discussion style?
Also I think if those to hikers that were eaten by a grizzly bear in Banff had a firearm they may still be alive. That story really rattled me when I heard it. They found an empty can of bear spray.
Yeah everytime I go hiking in bear country I always wish I was aloud to carry a hangun with me. Becuase I dobut people would enjoy me walking around with my X95
The only way to have NR firearms in a national park, which is where the two killed were, is to be transporting it through the park as per transportation regs. Good luck un boxing your shotty and loading it while the bear charges. Unless you are a trapper or have a permit issued by parks Canada to carry a firearm for a specific reason. Or of course unless you’re indigenous… The parks Canada regs only mention firearms however. No mention of bows or cross bows…..just saying. If you’re caught though they may argue you are hunting. And as Runkle would say, that would be an “interesting question” how the law would be interpreted in your case. Which means expensive for you.
@@jamesready5 yeah well I’m not taking any chances with law, not looking for trouble. Just saying it would make me feel more comfortable most of the time. I don’t have full faith that my can of bear spray will be completely effective
Thank you so much :) Just remember that it's always great to talk with your friends and family. But there's no substitute for showing them :) Take them to the range, show them how we do things. You'd be surprised at the results :) Thank you so much for watching.
If you can name one Canadian Olympic shooter who has got an exemption. I will fall over. Only reason I bring it up is because of Alberta’s cfo statement to the senate. The put through a few exemption forms and it was ignored. They still hadn’t gotten a response 18 months later
Yes, heard about this. That's wild. Called RCMP today actually and asked about a business license. It's so convoluted. Even if I were to end up being licensed as a business, and while that might allow me to procure handguns, I wouldn't be able to get an ATT for them to move them anywhere other than my place of business, which would basically mostly defeat the purpose since I'd be using them for training.
@@canadianoperator even if you were to train clients at the range? That’s crazy I was toying with the same idea (business) seeing as I’m always fixing and altering things. Thought I might do it for other people (lots of people have zero mechanical abilities) but after repairs/alterations I’d like to run to the range to verify everything is working correctly. Maybe it’s best to wait till after an election?
Not just hunting, I spend a lot of time with family and friends in the back country. Most are firearms owners. You just don't know what can happen out there - animal OR human caused. I don't trust bear spray 100 percent of the time. I do carry some with me, though.
Absolutely. Can't ever 100% rely on a spray. Also, great that you have so many friends and family members who enjoy shooting :) It's great to share your passion with others who also enjoy it.
I explain this to friends who say "why do you pack that shotgun, even when just camping?" (Very seldom this happens btw). You can't tell me with 100 percent certainty we won't have a predator encounter. Sure it's very very small, but not zero. If it's a chance of happening, no matter how small, I'd rather be prepared. Same reason why we always wear seatbelts. 12 gauge bear bangers are useful too! They're that first level of deterrent before spray or having to shoot to kill. Plenty of good reasons to bring a firearm in the back country let alone survival situations or hunting. Anyways, rant over. Thanks for the content, Operator 🫡😎
That's great! Unfortunately though you're in the minority there, as many more firearm owners don't have the luck or privilege of having a family or friends that are so accepting of firearms based on what they see on TV :)
That’s not an entirely true statement. Read s.33 of the CCC. The force used to stop an attacker must be appropriate given the force applied. While we don’t have explicit laws to give us rights to use firearms for self defense, you can (and absolutely should) use a firearm in self defense if threatened with a firearm. Case law supports this as well. Like the recent case out of Timmons where a man shot one of 5 attackers breaking into his home. They were armed. The man who was shot did not survive. A second degree murder charge was filed by local police and later dismissed in court. This is not a guaranteed outcome, but shows that a judge can interpret that you have used appropriate force given the circumstances to defend yourself, which in itself is within the law according to S. 33.
I agree with Canadian Operator, it's not entirely accurate, however, the process of proving your defense is the punishment that may bankrupt you and set you back a dozen years financially.
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You are so wonderful. Never expected and always so appreciated. Thank you 🙏
It would be greatly appreciated if a whole video on Section 33 could be made to explain to Canadians the possibility to legal self defense. I appreciate your videos and sincerely hope they develop more traction for Canadians. Lord knows, we've had a rocky history with illegal firearms/smuggling and a misleading/corrupt government and their media lapdogs contriving false narratives. Cheers, from the the East Coast of Canada (Never Forget, Portapique).
While the legal side of tings certainly are not my specialty, I'll definitely keep this in mind. I have spoken to a lawyer about this part of the CCC and unfortunately the more questions I ask the more questions I have. It's one of those inexplicably complicated grey areas that just seem to get bigger and more complex the more I look into it. Thanks for the kind words and for your patronage of the channel.
@@canadianoperator wonder if there's a Runkle video on that? Maybe get him to do one, or a collab video with the two of you in back and forth interview/discussion style?
Thanks!
Spongexcurve, thank you so much for your direct support
Also I think if those to hikers that were eaten by a grizzly bear in Banff had a firearm they may still be alive.
That story really rattled me when I heard it. They found an empty can of bear spray.
Yeah everytime I go hiking in bear country I always wish I was aloud to carry a hangun with me. Becuase I dobut people would enjoy me walking around with my X95
Technically you're transporting it :P
@michaelk5094 You can carry any non restricted firearms with you. So, who cares what people think.
The only way to have NR firearms in a national park, which is where the two killed were, is to be transporting it through the park as per transportation regs.
Good luck un boxing your shotty and loading it while the bear charges.
Unless you are a trapper or have a permit issued by parks Canada to carry a firearm for a specific reason.
Or of course unless you’re indigenous…
The parks Canada regs only mention firearms however. No mention of bows or cross bows…..just saying.
If you’re caught though they may argue you are hunting. And as Runkle would say, that would be an “interesting question” how the law would be interpreted in your case.
Which means expensive for you.
@@jamesready5 yeah well I’m not taking any chances with law, not looking for trouble. Just saying it would make me feel more comfortable most of the time. I don’t have full faith that my can of bear spray will be completely effective
What a great video …… well explained next time I have a family member calling out guns I am going to show them this video. Nice work
Thank you so much :) Just remember that it's always great to talk with your friends and family. But there's no substitute for showing them :) Take them to the range, show them how we do things. You'd be surprised at the results :) Thank you so much for watching.
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Thank you
If you can name one Canadian Olympic shooter who has got an exemption. I will fall over.
Only reason I bring it up is because of Alberta’s cfo statement to the senate. The put through a few exemption forms and it was ignored. They still hadn’t gotten a response 18 months later
Yes, heard about this. That's wild. Called RCMP today actually and asked about a business license. It's so convoluted. Even if I were to end up being licensed as a business, and while that might allow me to procure handguns, I wouldn't be able to get an ATT for them to move them anywhere other than my place of business, which would basically mostly defeat the purpose since I'd be using them for training.
@@canadianoperator even if you were to train clients at the range? That’s crazy I was toying with the same idea (business) seeing as I’m always fixing and altering things. Thought I might do it for other people (lots of people have zero mechanical abilities) but after repairs/alterations I’d like to run to the range to verify everything is working correctly.
Maybe it’s best to wait till after an election?
One year and three months and my pal finally got in the mail today 🎉. How long did y’all take to get yours in Manitoba?
Congrats!
It's our God given right to protect ourselves and our loved ones!
At least it should be, in Canada. Protecting our loved ones should not be subject to the interpretations of a judge.
Not just hunting, I spend a lot of time with family and friends in the back country. Most are firearms owners. You just don't know what can happen out there - animal OR human caused. I don't trust bear spray 100 percent of the time. I do carry some with me, though.
Absolutely. Can't ever 100% rely on a spray. Also, great that you have so many friends and family members who enjoy shooting :) It's great to share your passion with others who also enjoy it.
I explain this to friends who say "why do you pack that shotgun, even when just camping?" (Very seldom this happens btw). You can't tell me with 100 percent certainty we won't have a predator encounter. Sure it's very very small, but not zero. If it's a chance of happening, no matter how small, I'd rather be prepared. Same reason why we always wear seatbelts. 12 gauge bear bangers are useful too! They're that first level of deterrent before spray or having to shoot to kill. Plenty of good reasons to bring a firearm in the back country let alone survival situations or hunting.
Anyways, rant over. Thanks for the content, Operator 🫡😎
OK wow great video cheers time 3 ok 7
Thanks :)
No need to say anything to my family about firearms.we are very familiar with them.All shooters
That's great! Unfortunately though you're in the minority there, as many more firearm owners don't have the luck or privilege of having a family or friends that are so accepting of firearms based on what they see on TV :)
Using/owning a firearm for the purpose of self defense is not permitted by law in Canada.
That’s not an entirely true statement.
Read s.33 of the CCC. The force used to stop an attacker must be appropriate given the force applied.
While we don’t have explicit laws to give us rights to use firearms for self defense, you can (and absolutely should) use a firearm in self defense if threatened with a firearm.
Case law supports this as well. Like the recent case out of Timmons where a man shot one of 5 attackers breaking into his home.
They were armed. The man who was shot did not survive. A second degree murder charge was filed by local police and later dismissed in court.
This is not a guaranteed outcome, but shows that a judge can interpret that you have used appropriate force given the circumstances to defend yourself, which in itself is within the law according to S. 33.
@@canadianoperator excellent and accurate response.
@@VladRuskie Please take your meds. 🙄
I agree with Canadian Operator, it's not entirely accurate, however, the process of proving your defense is the punishment that may bankrupt you and set you back a dozen years financially.