I have the same one and it comes with a spacer and longer bolt to install where the rod mounts to the frame if you have any kind of lift. That will eliminate that extreme angle you have. If you do not install that ASAP your bearing on the other end won't last very much longer. Also, the instructions specifically say not to exceed 7 degrees between the unit and steering rod. That is why that o-ring came out. You might be okay though - -by the looks of the underside cleanliness I don't it goes off road much. Hope this helps.
We did add the spacer. Lots of off road (see videos). Ran it for over 20k miles without issues. Removed for the PSC hydro assist. Good feedback for others. Thanks for sharing
We did add the spacer. No issues for 20k miles. Lots of off road (see videos). Removed for PSC hydro assist. Worked great. Thanks for sharing feedback.
Nice video and fox SS!! My 2020 with stock lift rode and steered like crap, so I just replaced the shocks and steering stabilizer with Bilstein. It’s completely changed the ride!!
Orientation is based on clearances. Key is to ensure clearance at full steering range and full suspension movement (remove coil springs) from bump stop clmpression to full shock extension.
We kept it in the middle range. Fox has a frame spacer & longer bolt available (contact customer service) this will help reduce the angle if lifted. Getting it turned properly is crucial to keep it from binding check full lock turning and compressing/extending suspension and turning. I've seen these snap off from improper positioning. Ours worked great but we did take extra time / testing to ensure position.
Didn't have a problem. We did add the spacer... Much of the issues I've seen is the clamp angle and ensuring full steering through the entire range of suspension motion. Any bind and it will snap off. Took some time to get it setup but no issues.
Do you know the extended & compressed measurements on it? I got a 4 in lift as well but theirs one that has 23 extended & 15 compressed & the other has 25 & 17 which one is yours?
@@TruckCamper thanks & yea two different websites had different lengths for this same exact product maybe a mistake of them, plus theirs the 2.0 stabilizer as well with no piggy back so i got a bit confused... did you ever come up with a solution for the frame drop mount ?
@@joserios2674 Haven't heard confirmation on the drop bracket. I may fabricate something at some point but does work asis. I doubt there is a length difference (from a functional standpoint). One through shaft is adjustable and the other is not. Adjustable one will be helpful for oversized tires.
@@TruckCamper yea i kept looking & figure the same thing just to built my own. I see you have no sway bar?? What other heavy duty parts did you upgrade on your suspension
My F250 Tremor is stock suspension with stock size tires and aftermarket wheels. Do you think the FOX 985-24-001 would be adequate for my needs or do I need to get this monster steering stabilizer?
Any of the Fox steering stabilizers will have improved performance over the stock stabilizer (rather weak). The biggest advantage to this ATS stabilizer is the ability to adjust (dial in the steering feel) and offers better performance (similar to running dual stabilizers). Really is going to come down to cost! Otherwise, keep running your stock stabilizer until it wears out... then upgrade. I'd spend the extra money for the adjustability especially if considering wider tires, larger diameter or future lift. Hope that helps!!
Just curious about your drag link connection. I know you mentioned you have a 4” lift and what got my attention is that your drag link is mounted on top of your pitman arm? I know not all suspension lifts carry the same specs but according to BDS 4” kit, they advise that the drag link be connected through the bottom of the pitman arm. Therefore the ball joint nut would be on top of the pitman arm. I have this Fox ats stabilizer but haven’t installed it yet because I’m waiting for a drop bracket (as you mentioned). I’m also running a 4” lift with 37’s. Have you found a bracket that will work?
Check out our older videos showing the entire truck build. We are using Carli suspension parts. Drag link is stock. No modifications to steering. Fox has a spacer available for their stabilizer. Give them a call and they can send it to you. Basically drops the frame mount by 1". It has been working great for us for over 2 years!
Hi, I have a bad case of death wobble on my 2017 f250 with only 25k miles. the dealer repalced the steering damper and that didnt help. They say there is nothing wrong with the truck. What is the best damper money can buy. I just want to fix it and stay alive . tx
This is the best steering stabilizer on the market. And adjustable. Is your truck lifted? Oversized tires? Any modifications? The steering stabilizer will help "mask" the problem but isn't the real solution. I'm guessing the axle play may be coming from the track bar... you might consider checking out the track bar that Carli Suspension sells.
@@TruckCamper thanks. Is this better then a dual setup with two fox 2.0 stabilizers ? Truck is 100% stock . I'm still going to look for the cause of the problem , but the dealer changed everything already and I still have it.
@@davidfreidus5022 Highly likely the factory track bar. Give the guys at Carli Suspension a call and ask them... stabilizer won't solve the source of front end play. The advantage of the Fox Stabilizer is being adjustable and performing similar to dual stabilizers. I like the design.
Hi, I have this on my stock 2018 F350, I installed it around June 2020. I've just notice the O-rings at each end are bulged out and cracked, these O-rings are to stop the dirt and garbage entering the bearing/bushings. I am about to install a 2.5" lift to the truck and came to the same conclusion that this will increase the angle and only make this issue worse. Do you think it could it be rotated to be on the top side of the drag link?
I sent pictures to FOX and asked about the o-rings. They are working on a drop bracket for the frame side of the stabilizer (not completed). You could certainly build something similar to drop the frame side mount 1" down. Can't go too far... otherwise, you'll have clearance issues at full suspension compression. You won't have too much angle increase with the 2.5" lift. We are closer to 4" lift and it's still functional. You really can't rotate it to improve. Best thing would be to space down the frame mount. We've been running ours for nearly a year. Hope that helps!
I have a 2018 jeep Sahara JL 2.0 turbo I picked up 2021 Jeep gladiator Fox suspension 2.0, will it on my Jeep Sahara? if not please explain and if there’s a way I can reach out to you a number of something
I'm not certain. It is likely the shock mounts and length are the same... however the shock valving may be firmer since the Gladiator is bigger and heavier. Probably would be easy to sell and use the money toward shocks tuned for application. Hope that helps
Bought a 2017 F350 with an aftermarket Rancho dual stabilizer included a year ago. One of the shocks had a dent about 1" wide and a pothole yesterday caused a leak. The shop sealed the leak, but they're rusting some. 2 shops give unclear advice on these stabilizers. Stock 18" wheels and tires, no lift. Should I remove the aftermarket and replace the stock with something like Fox? I was checking them out a few months ago. I'm not sure there's a reason to keep the aftermarket with no lift. Or since the aftermarket is already installed, should I keep it and replace the shocks on it as well as the stock stabilizer with upgrades?
Steering stabilizer helps reduce or mask steering feedback. The beauty of this FOX stabilizer is that it mounts in the stock location (high less likely to be damaged), functionality of dual stabilizers (in 1 unit) and adjustable to dial in resistance you like. Basically it's a game changer in the steering stabilizer world which hasn't seen advancements in decades. Lifted or stock it works. Shocks won't effect steering but definitely can improve the ride quality
Just got a 2021 250 tremor, steering over 78-80 mph starts tracking and bumping lest a d right bad. You have to react to the feed back constantly. Any you guys/gals have that issue?
We haven't had that issue... vibration is likely a tire problem. Might start by having a tire shop rotate and balance. Bump steer can be reduced with a good steering stabilizer like this... essentially can dampen steering feedback and add some resistance. Hope that helps!
@@TruckCamper yup, going to take it in for a balance. Truck has 250 miles on it. Then maybe a stabilizer... can’t believe a new stock truck would need that. Also lowered the tire PSI a bit from stock
@@TruckCamper right, that is what I’m thinking. Came from a gen 1 raptor which loved cruising at high speeds. Was driving home from a work trip, broke down 4 hrs out in the gen 1 and rolled into a ford dealer.... 4 hrs later, back on the road with the Tremor! I had to push it to see what it could do. Just the tracking on the Tremor is out of control at 80 and beyond. Start to feel it at 45mph, but Like you said earlier, need to go through the trials.
you have to give the Duratracs time to break-in. I literally couldn't keep my Tremor in my lane or on the road after buying it new. After over 11k miles, it's fine. I did very recently add camber shims and this Fox ATS steering stabilizer, which has given it a better on-center feel (from the caster shims), and the Fox ATS seems to have smoothed out the steering a bit. Mine drives great, now.
Love watching your videos. Video tip- buy yourself a drop light or a brighter LED when you’re videoing under vehicle sessions. Somewhat difficult to see your expert mechanic ability
They are three months out, it’s just a 1.5 inch spacer and a longer bolt, we were installing and noticed the angle, googled found this you tube video and called them. Thanks for the video.
How about a vid talking about shocks! I’ve been thinking about upgrading my Ram 3500 SRW shocks with my Northstar Arrow TC. Would like to learn more... Thanks for showing us your mods. Very helpful!!!
@@TruckCamper I got death wobble on my 2019 gasser with a level kit and 35s at like 28k. I change out the castor adjustment and stock steering stabilizer for a new stock one and problem went away. I’m just scared for it to happen again. Don’t feel safe driving especially with kids in the car.
@@erikmedina7535 Level kits don't correct geometry which causes the issues. Track bar will be your next issue. Best to leave stock or do quality complete suspension. But anything modified will take more maintenance and monitoring... trade offs in life!!
When buying parts always look at the warranty the company gives , now before I say this I have 1000s of dollars of fox shocks on my two jeeps tj and jk, now for a stabilizer what you bought is a gimmic , and what is the warranty 3yrs I think or is it one, and how much was it like 300.00 plus, you know you could of bought a skyjacker black max duel setup for around 150.00 but it comes with a life time warranty
Not quite! Fox stabilizer mounts in the factory location (up high and out of the way). Adjustable (very effective). Don't knock it till you try. And yes it is a premium product. Lots of China options too...
@@TruckCamper ahahah skyjacker shocks are made by Monroe and are made in Monroe La and don’t forget the lifetime warranty from an American made company, there not the flavor of the month but are a rock solid American company
Carli has a nice mounting but... it's not adjustable and not consistent performance compared to through shaft design. This essentially acts the same as two opposing stabilizers... but with the benefit of being adjustable. Really nice to dial in steering feel...
I have the same one and it comes with a spacer and longer bolt to install where the rod mounts to the frame if you have any kind of lift. That will eliminate that extreme angle you have. If you do not install that ASAP your bearing on the other end won't last very much longer. Also, the instructions specifically say not to exceed 7 degrees between the unit and steering rod. That is why that o-ring came out. You might be okay though - -by the looks of the underside cleanliness I don't it goes off road much. Hope this helps.
We did add the spacer. Lots of off road (see videos). Ran it for over 20k miles without issues. Removed for the PSC hydro assist. Good feedback for others. Thanks for sharing
We did add the spacer. No issues for 20k miles. Lots of off road (see videos). Removed for PSC hydro assist. Worked great. Thanks for sharing feedback.
Nice video and fox SS!! My 2020 with stock lift rode and steered like crap, so I just replaced the shocks and steering stabilizer with Bilstein. It’s completely changed the ride!!
Stock does leave something to be desired... Bilstein makes solid products. Thanks for sharing!!
Why is the logo upside down?
Orientation is based on clearances. Key is to ensure clearance at full steering range and full suspension movement (remove coil springs) from bump stop clmpression to full shock extension.
Will it work on a truck with an aftermarket drag link? I've got a 4.5 lift on my 18 F250. Adjustable track bar and PMF drag link
Most likely... but. You may need a different attachment clamp if the drag link diameter is much more than stock.
@@TruckCamper yeah i'll need to measure before i order. Thank you!!
How many clicks are u on? I can’t get mine dialed in right. I’m also having the same issue with the bushing slipping awkwardly
We kept it in the middle range. Fox has a frame spacer & longer bolt available (contact customer service) this will help reduce the angle if lifted. Getting it turned properly is crucial to keep it from binding check full lock turning and compressing/extending suspension and turning. I've seen these snap off from improper positioning. Ours worked great but we did take extra time / testing to ensure position.
Are you still happy with the single fox? or have you made some changes?
Working great! We did an update video... welcome to check it out.
Well explained my friend!!!
Thank you! :)
Did your frame mount bolt snap yet my did and I had to order ofset bushing and bearing kit . They should include in the kit.
Didn't have a problem. We did add the spacer... Much of the issues I've seen is the clamp angle and ensuring full steering through the entire range of suspension motion. Any bind and it will snap off. Took some time to get it setup but no issues.
Will I feel the difference?
i have a 2001 F550 7.3, I just ordered the
Fox stabilizer shock. And 4 bilstein shocks.
My truck is not lifted !
Yes, it's adjustable so you can dial in the steering feel. Really works well...
Do you know the extended & compressed measurements on it? I got a 4 in lift as well but theirs one that has 23 extended & 15 compressed & the other has 25 & 17 which one is yours?
Here's the part # FOX983-02-143. I don't know why they would offer 2 lengths as the steering range is the same. Strange
@@TruckCamper thanks & yea two different websites had different lengths for this same exact product maybe a mistake of them, plus theirs the 2.0 stabilizer as well with no piggy back so i got a bit confused... did you ever come up with a solution for the frame drop mount ?
@@joserios2674 Haven't heard confirmation on the drop bracket. I may fabricate something at some point but does work asis. I doubt there is a length difference (from a functional standpoint). One through shaft is adjustable and the other is not. Adjustable one will be helpful for oversized tires.
@@TruckCamper yea i kept looking & figure the same thing just to built my own. I see you have no sway bar??
What other heavy duty parts did you upgrade on your suspension
Here's a link to the full build:
expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/2020-ford-f250-on-37s-expedition-truck-camper-build.216282/page-12
My F250 Tremor is stock suspension with stock size tires and aftermarket wheels. Do you think the FOX 985-24-001 would be adequate for my needs or do I need to get this monster steering stabilizer?
Any of the Fox steering stabilizers will have improved performance over the stock stabilizer (rather weak). The biggest advantage to this ATS stabilizer is the ability to adjust (dial in the steering feel) and offers better performance (similar to running dual stabilizers). Really is going to come down to cost! Otherwise, keep running your stock stabilizer until it wears out... then upgrade. I'd spend the extra money for the adjustability especially if considering wider tires, larger diameter or future lift. Hope that helps!!
Just curious about your drag link connection. I know you mentioned you have a 4” lift and what got my attention is that your drag link is mounted on top of your pitman arm? I know not all suspension lifts carry the same specs but according to BDS 4” kit, they advise that the drag link be connected through the bottom of the pitman arm. Therefore the ball joint nut would be on top of the pitman arm. I have this Fox ats stabilizer but haven’t installed it yet because I’m waiting for a drop bracket (as you mentioned). I’m also running a 4” lift with 37’s. Have you found a bracket that will work?
Check out our older videos showing the entire truck build. We are using Carli suspension parts. Drag link is stock. No modifications to steering. Fox has a spacer available for their stabilizer. Give them a call and they can send it to you. Basically drops the frame mount by 1". It has been working great for us for over 2 years!
Hi, I have a bad case of death wobble on my 2017 f250 with only 25k miles. the dealer repalced the steering damper and that didnt help. They say there is nothing wrong with the truck. What is the best damper money can buy. I just want to fix it and stay alive . tx
This is the best steering stabilizer on the market. And adjustable. Is your truck lifted? Oversized tires? Any modifications?
The steering stabilizer will help "mask" the problem but isn't the real solution. I'm guessing the axle play may be coming from the track bar... you might consider checking out the track bar that Carli Suspension sells.
@@TruckCamper thanks. Is this better then a dual setup with two fox 2.0 stabilizers ? Truck is 100% stock .
I'm still going to look for the cause of the problem , but the dealer changed everything already and I still have it.
@@davidfreidus5022 Highly likely the factory track bar. Give the guys at Carli Suspension a call and ask them... stabilizer won't solve the source of front end play. The advantage of the Fox Stabilizer is being adjustable and performing similar to dual stabilizers. I like the design.
Tires can also cause the issue. Rotate and get them rebalanced. Post up if you find the issue. Would be curious to hear...
Hi, I have this on my stock 2018 F350, I installed it around June 2020. I've just notice the O-rings at each end are bulged out and cracked, these O-rings are to stop the dirt and garbage entering the bearing/bushings. I am about to install a 2.5" lift to the truck and came to the same conclusion that this will increase the angle and only make this issue worse. Do you think it could it be rotated to be on the top side of the drag link?
I sent pictures to FOX and asked about the o-rings. They are working on a drop bracket for the frame side of the stabilizer (not completed). You could certainly build something similar to drop the frame side mount 1" down. Can't go too far... otherwise, you'll have clearance issues at full suspension compression.
You won't have too much angle increase with the 2.5" lift. We are closer to 4" lift and it's still functional. You really can't rotate it to improve. Best thing would be to space down the frame mount. We've been running ours for nearly a year. Hope that helps!
Did FOX ever address the angle mounting issue? Would it be a big deal with an 1-1/2 level?
Yes. They made a spacer for the frame side. We installed it. No cost from FOX.
I have a 2018 jeep Sahara JL 2.0 turbo I picked up 2021 Jeep gladiator Fox suspension 2.0, will it on my Jeep Sahara? if not please explain and if there’s a way I can reach out to you a number of something
I'm not certain. It is likely the shock mounts and length are the same... however the shock valving may be firmer since the Gladiator is bigger and heavier. Probably would be easy to sell and use the money toward shocks tuned for application. Hope that helps
Good info 👍
Thanks 👍
Which direction tightens up the ride? Thanks
Turn to the right... tighen increases!
@Truck Camper thanks...so for a better feel at Highway speed turn to right ?
@@TheNastynelly1 Adjust up for more steering resistance (heavier feel). We have ours set in the middle of the range.
Bought a 2017 F350 with an aftermarket Rancho dual stabilizer included a year ago. One of the shocks had a dent about 1" wide and a pothole yesterday caused a leak. The shop sealed the leak, but they're rusting some. 2 shops give unclear advice on these stabilizers.
Stock 18" wheels and tires, no lift.
Should I remove the aftermarket and replace the stock with something like Fox? I was checking them out a few months ago. I'm not sure there's a reason to keep the aftermarket with no lift. Or since the aftermarket is already installed, should I keep it and replace the shocks on it as well as the stock stabilizer with upgrades?
Steering stabilizer helps reduce or mask steering feedback. The beauty of this FOX stabilizer is that it mounts in the stock location (high less likely to be damaged), functionality of dual stabilizers (in 1 unit) and adjustable to dial in resistance you like.
Basically it's a game changer in the steering stabilizer world which hasn't seen advancements in decades. Lifted or stock it works.
Shocks won't effect steering but definitely can improve the ride quality
@@TruckCamper Thank you. Very much appreciated.
Just got a 2021 250 tremor, steering over 78-80 mph starts tracking and bumping lest a d right bad. You have to react to the feed back constantly. Any you guys/gals have that issue?
We haven't had that issue... vibration is likely a tire problem. Might start by having a tire shop rotate and balance. Bump steer can be reduced with a good steering stabilizer like this... essentially can dampen steering feedback and add some resistance. Hope that helps!
@@TruckCamper yup, going to take it in for a balance. Truck has 250 miles on it. Then maybe a stabilizer... can’t believe a new stock truck would need that. Also lowered the tire PSI a bit from stock
@@tcr2237 80mph might be a bit fast for those Duratrac tires. They are much less hwy oriented. Curious what you discover...
@@TruckCamper right, that is what I’m thinking. Came from a gen 1 raptor which loved cruising at high speeds. Was driving home from a work trip, broke down 4 hrs out in the gen 1 and rolled into a ford dealer.... 4 hrs later, back on the road with the Tremor! I had to push it to see what it could do. Just the tracking on the Tremor is out of control at 80 and beyond. Start to feel it at 45mph, but Like you said earlier, need to go through the trials.
you have to give the Duratracs time to break-in. I literally couldn't keep my Tremor in my lane or on the road after buying it new. After over 11k miles, it's fine. I did very recently add camber shims and this Fox ATS steering stabilizer, which has given it a better on-center feel (from the caster shims), and the Fox ATS seems to have smoothed out the steering a bit. Mine drives great, now.
is that the same as a stabalizer bar or what your doing different.
It is a replacement for the factory steering stabilizer.
Thanks for putting a review on this
Hope it is helpful. Thanks for sharing!
Love watching your videos. Video tip- buy yourself a drop light or a brighter LED when you’re videoing under vehicle sessions. Somewhat difficult to see your expert mechanic ability
You are totally right! That would make a big difference. Appreciate the feedback.
I guess Im pretty off topic but do anybody know a good place to stream new tv shows online ?
@Cason Kade Flixportal =)
@Baylor Danny thanks, I signed up and it seems like a nice service :D Appreciate it!!
@Cason Kade Happy to help :)
Can I install 2 of this on my super duty?.
Why? It will outperform 2 standard stabilizers... adjustable too.
So these work for a 2.5 level? Even tho fox says it doesn’t?
It does... but really should drop the frame side mount 1-2". Fox is working on frame drop mount. They must have updated their website description.
They are three months out, it’s just a 1.5 inch spacer and a longer bolt, we were installing and noticed the angle, googled found this you tube video and called them. Thanks for the video.
How about a vid talking about shocks! I’ve been thinking about upgrading my Ram 3500 SRW shocks with my Northstar Arrow TC. Would like to learn more...
Thanks for showing us your mods. Very helpful!!!
That's a great idea! Would be glad to. We are still waiting on our rear shocks from Fox (covid delays). Thanks for sharing!
Can I run six of these on my super duty?
Definitely buy 6! Support FOX. :)
There is no need for dual stabilizers aside from ascetics. Only one is ever needed....
Not sure how dual stabilizers is a desirable look... wierd.
I want to run the fox ts and a dual one on the bottom.
So many! Haha
@@TruckCamper I got death wobble on my 2019 gasser with a level kit and 35s at like 28k. I change out the castor adjustment and stock steering stabilizer for a new stock one and problem went away. I’m just scared for it to happen again. Don’t feel safe driving especially with kids in the car.
@@erikmedina7535 Level kits don't correct geometry which causes the issues. Track bar will be your next issue. Best to leave stock or do quality complete suspension. But anything modified will take more maintenance and monitoring... trade offs in life!!
@@TruckCamper I only did a 1.5 in level block in front
@@erikmedina7535 Changing the front height alters geometry for steering... so not surprising to cause issues. Rear suspension is much less fussy!
When buying parts always look at the warranty the company gives , now before I say this I have 1000s of dollars of fox shocks on my two jeeps tj and jk, now for a stabilizer what you bought is a gimmic , and what is the warranty 3yrs I think or is it one, and how much was it like 300.00 plus, you know you could of bought a skyjacker black max duel setup for around 150.00 but it comes with a life time warranty
Not quite! Fox stabilizer mounts in the factory location (up high and out of the way). Adjustable (very effective). Don't knock it till you try. And yes it is a premium product. Lots of China options too...
@@TruckCamper ahahah skyjacker shocks are made by Monroe and are made in Monroe La and don’t forget the lifetime warranty from an American made company, there not the flavor of the month but are a rock solid American company
@@reelnative01 Glad you like that option. Thanks for sharing
Will this fit on my 2021 f350 and after installation do I need an alignment. Thanks
Yes it will fit. No need for alignment. You won't be changing anything related to the camber, caster or toe.
Dual stabs are a joke. Why didn’t you with Carli’s high mount?
Carli has a nice mounting but... it's not adjustable and not consistent performance compared to through shaft design. This essentially acts the same as two opposing stabilizers... but with the benefit of being adjustable. Really nice to dial in steering feel...
I cant see shit better lighting next time
Yes, that's a good call.