“I’ve seen Men of Steel die and Dark Knights fall.” Rip Hunter saw the Season 4 premiere for Superman & Lois and Batman’s death in Gotham Knights’ pilot episode.
I know batman was only allowed to be used in movies. But i think the reason why is because the CW is filled with lesser known characters while granted most people know who green arrow, flash, and supergirl is, and besides superman. Batman is a popular character, so him appearing in a lesser known universe would take away the focus from the main characters of that world.
Batman is WB's prize child they are very selective with who gets him. they definitely were not gonna give him to CW. CW wanted Batman and it wasn't their choice. Instead they made Green Arrow their Batman by giving him his villains and attitude.
Also, I just thought of this. Batman was going to be the mentor/enemy to arrow before being replaced for deathstroke, if you think about it, batmans cowl was on lian yu, which is where deathstrokes mask was at the beginning of episode 1 of arrow
I always liked the part when Felicity was trying to find her own codename she mentioned Oracle; Oliver said that name was already taken which kind of hinted that he knew Bruce Wayne or Barbara Gordon on Earth 1...
The fact we don't ever get a batman year one series is stupid it's limitless potential from that point onwards from his starting out before putting on the cowl gothams attempt at it was a little lackluster with a shoddy batsuit at the end plus they made all the villains too early and even changed some of them up too much. I'm fine with batman movies but I'm just saying a actual series with Bruce Wayne batman like they did with arrow would have been amazing to see
Okay, we know pre Crisis on Infinite Earths, Earth-2 had a Bruce. But then we his his cowl on the island instead of Deathstroke's. I really wanted to know that situation instead of just being teased. But then Earth 2 was destroyed by the Anti-Monitor in the same episode before being rebooted into the Stargirl post Crisis on Infinite Earths Earth 2.
Genuinely. I Believe our Earth 1 Bruce went to Earth 2 and got stuck there because Bruce went completely missing pre crisis and it is a good way to tie up plot holes as well.
@@_tenebris25_ Yeah but was that president's or past tense because I remember the same scene and it seemed more like he knew him in the past not in the present time like idiots say that oh I seen Bruce recently he said I knew Bruce or something like that.
@@simonjack9699 yeah but my theory is that Adrien met Bruce after he became the Hood when Robert was imprisoned which would've been sometime after Flash season 2 so I think Robert thought Bruce died on the island and set up that mask and then later finds out he survived
Nah, Arrow should've been a Batman show to begin with. It's painfully clear that's what the original writing team wanted, & they could've never butchered him like they butchered Oliver. Both Green Arrow's character and the show itself would be better off for it
yeah i guess so too "DC is famous for having strict rules regarding the use of the Bruce Wayne/Batman character on television, preferring to keep him for the big screen."
In the first scene Oliver says billionaire vigilantes do love their toys, implying there are more than one vigilantes but in Elseword he says he doesn’t believe Batman exists and is just an urban legend made up… Kinda paradox lol
Just like iron Man didn't like captain America not only because of Howard stark love Steve Rogers more than tony stark but also tony stark believe he was the the first avengers
@uncannydcmarvelous5732 More like a funny coincidence tbh. Plus he only ever appeared as Oliver's jerk millionaire friend from high school in one episode all the way back in early Season 1 in 2012, WAYYY before the idea of a shared universe with metahumans and concepts like the multiverse or time travel were even a thought. No one thought they would cast the same guy to play Bruce Wayne 8 years later when they showed his face in the Batwoman Season 1 finale in 2020. And I guess you can say that Crisis might've changed some things. Warren Christie played Oliver's friend on Earth-1 but what if on Supergirl's original Earth, he was Bruce Wayne (like how Brandon Routh was Ray Palmer on Earth-1 but Superman on Earth-96), and Crisis just mashed it all together since the Bruce face reveal happened after Crisis on Infinite Earths. That's always been my headcanon anyways. And for fun, now you can pretend that Oliver met Bruce Wayne in that episode instead of "Carter Bowen".
They use their big three? They just save them for movies. Marvel also does not tend to use their big three in LA series'. How many times has Spidey, Wolverine, and Cap been on a LA tv show?
"We're moving back to Gotham"
That's gonna be a decision he'll severly regret
If he said going 'back', I think he can handle it.
The names on the phone are also written on the BTAS' font
“I’ve seen Men of Steel die and Dark Knights fall.”
Rip Hunter saw the Season 4 premiere for Superman & Lois and Batman’s death in Gotham Knights’ pilot episode.
wasnt Gotham Knights confirmed to be separate from arrowverse?
Then again so was titans up until that multiverse scene
Season 4 isn’t out yet???
What the hell is Rory William doing here
2:50 if no one understands this, basically Batman was able to get connected to the speed force and he became the red death
Yep, but we just had to get the fraud red death instead of bruce
@@Thebestemerald4 real
@@Thebestemerald4"i am VeNgEAncE💅"
@@Thebestemerald4 It really would have sucked if _the Red Death_ was the first appearance of Batman in the Arrowverse, so I'm not complaining.
Barry in the Green Arrow suit looks unironically sick
YESS, but you sadly can't say the same about Oliver in the Flash suit 💀
I think Ollie wears the season 5 Flash suit better than Barry..
@@glennkeating7688 definatly not
@@glennkeating7688your worng
The fact that Kara has probably met Batman before and is just astounded someone believes he isnt real lmao.
How is that a fact if she “probably” met him?
@@kingpen5866 Can you not?
@@airsoul366explain yourself and stop calling your fan theories facts, annoying ass
@@kingpen5866 you fun at parties huh
In all those years of CW series, it's a CRIME Batman never appeared...
1:06 which is interesting, since the Barry of Earth-2 didn't have powers, he was just a normal guy.
Still, even without having powers, their friendship is THAT strong
I know batman was only allowed to be used in movies. But i think the reason why is because the CW is filled with lesser known characters while granted most people know who green arrow, flash, and supergirl is, and besides superman. Batman is a popular character, so him appearing in a lesser known universe would take away the focus from the main characters of that world.
Batman is WB's prize child they are very selective with who gets him. they definitely were not gonna give him to CW. CW wanted Batman and it wasn't their choice. Instead they made Green Arrow their Batman by giving him his villains and attitude.
Batman would've overshadowed everyone if he showed up.
@@Sinister2305I also heard they were going to introduce batman in the elseworlds crossover but were still unsuccessful so they used batwoman instead.
@@FriendlyBatDoomthat's my point
Also, I just thought of this. Batman was going to be the mentor/enemy to arrow before being replaced for deathstroke, if you think about it, batmans cowl was on lian yu, which is where deathstrokes mask was at the beginning of episode 1 of arrow
Thank god The Big Bat never showed up. They fucked up too much in the end.
Howw
0:38, “LORD MEGATRON, NO!”
“LORD MEGATRON, YES!”
I always liked the part when Felicity was trying to find her own codename she mentioned Oracle; Oliver said that name was already taken which kind of hinted that he knew Bruce Wayne or Barbara Gordon on Earth 1...
It was definitely a fourth wall joke.
Well, technically, Felicity is Stephanie Brown of the Arrowverse.
oliver says oracle is taken but then in later seasons he doesn't believe batman is real
Batman should've made a cameo in arrow
Which Batman, this universe isn't connected to anything
@@isaiahwatkins1502 just batman... could've made one up for the show. It doesn't have to be DCEU or anything.
@@darklight62802 lmao
He showed up, as an old dude@@darklight62802
They didn't have permission unfortunately
The cowl design looks like the Owlman design though
It's the one from the final episode of "Gotham", and yeah... it does look more like Owlman.
Rip Hunter was an amazing, and very cool character to watch. The guy he was in S1 of LoT was just amazing
Batman exists in like every universe ong
The mask on the island looks more like a Hawkeye mask but black. The ears look like they’re coming from the eyes instead of the head.
Batman’s cowl at the end looks a little bit like Adam west’s Batman mask, I can see the eye brows in the mask
There is one episode in Flash where they are sitting in bar and we can see a man (not his face) with tag which says "Jordon". Hall jordon may be?
He must really hate himself if he wants to move back to Gotham
They thought the batman was the myth
how did I not realize that Amanda Waller was Romona on Power!?!
The fact we don't ever get a batman year one series is stupid it's limitless potential from that point onwards from his starting out before putting on the cowl gothams attempt at it was a little lackluster with a shoddy batsuit at the end plus they made all the villains too early and even changed some of them up too much.
I'm fine with batman movies but I'm just saying a actual series with Bruce Wayne batman like they did with arrow would have been amazing to see
Okay, we know pre Crisis on Infinite Earths, Earth-2 had a Bruce. But then we his his cowl on the island instead of Deathstroke's.
I really wanted to know that situation instead of just being teased. But then Earth 2 was destroyed by the Anti-Monitor in the same episode before being rebooted into the Stargirl post Crisis on Infinite Earths Earth 2.
yeah, that was never explained.
Watch the s9 flash where spectre he explained 8t
@@kakarotdonutshop4481 I meant about Bruce's cowl being on the island.
Genuinely. I Believe our Earth 1 Bruce went to Earth 2 and got stuck there because Bruce went completely missing pre crisis and it is a good way to tie up plot holes as well.
We need to see batman at some point maybe get his own tv show in the arrowverse.
Arrowverse has ended
No we do not keep the CW away from Batman. Sweet Baby disrespected his character enough. We don't need the CW to do the same.
@@callmejacob3234 you say that like they already haven't with the Batwoman series lmao
@@idkwhatcoolnametouse8987yeah and they ruined her
@@idkwhatcoolnametouse8987 Got cancelled in 2 seasons, let that sink in homie.
I kind of wish it was explored deeper if on Earth 2 did Oliver killed Bruce Wayne or did he lock him up in the island prison..
I don't think Bruce died considering Earth-2 Adrien Chase knew him
@@_tenebris25_ Yeah but was that president's or past tense because I remember the same scene and it seemed more like he knew him in the past not in the present time like idiots say that oh I seen Bruce recently he said I knew Bruce or something like that.
@@_tenebris25_ It's all about the context
@@_tenebris25_ If he remember the season and episode that be great
@@simonjack9699 yeah but my theory is that Adrien met Bruce after he became the Hood when Robert was imprisoned which would've been sometime after Flash season 2 so I think Robert thought Bruce died on the island and set up that mask and then later finds out he survived
1:30 considering what happens in Gotham daily. No
Pretty cool batmans mask looks a bit of wolverine mask there was a comic of marvel vs dc where wolverine took mantle of batman as batverine tho
Hell yes. I do love my toys.
That last one...the cowl...man I'd me interested in season Season one but how it involved Batman instead of Deathstroke
So last clip shows Batman going to purgatory and training like green arrow
1:29 hard to say if that's a good choice....
Thank god they never used Batman they would've butchered his character. The Arrowverse didn't deserve Batman. Warner Brothers was smart for once.
Nah, Arrow should've been a Batman show to begin with. It's painfully clear that's what the original writing team wanted, & they could've never butchered him like they butchered Oliver. Both Green Arrow's character and the show itself would be better off for it
They just made Green Arrow the Batman
3:06 the big dad & hit girl?
The early arrowverse was good but later aahh yea nit much
I feel like i dont remember that last clip in the arrow verse
Why was batman's cowl on lian yu
Was another universe, where i assume Batman was basically the slade role for the adrian chase Green Arrow.
Maybe batman was the deathstroke in that world? I don't know, the writers just likes to leave a batman Easter egg
Can u do this but with sharknado
+ Team Titans belongs to the "Arrow"verse and there a old and retired Batman exists.
Im guessing he was never introduced because warner bros was being a bitch?
yeah i guess so too
"DC is famous for having strict rules regarding the use of the Bruce Wayne/Batman character on television, preferring to keep him for the big screen."
@@t4nne863 Unless it's animated*
WB didn't want the trash cw touching batman and i don't blame them
@@Hambone2k No, they didn't want Batman in anything that isn't movies. Or the Joker for that matter.
@@emantelololololol9199 nah batman was in that show titans
In the first scene Oliver says billionaire vigilantes do love their toys, implying there are more than one vigilantes but in Elseword he says he doesn’t believe Batman exists and is just an urban legend made up… Kinda paradox lol
Just like iron Man didn't like captain America not only because of Howard stark love Steve Rogers more than tony stark but also tony stark believe he was the the first avengers
LMAO moving back to Gotham eh sure about that buddy IDK love how jealous Oliver is about Batman
These shows are SO goofy
Once they could finally say the name "Batman" instead of all the other nonsense, it almost sounds weird.
The Flash 5x09
Really Gotham is more dangerous
Who wants chris nolan dark knight add with cw verse
Why that one? xD
no one
Thank god they didn’t put Batman in any of these shows they would’ve butchered him
Still Batwoman did reference him a lot and still butchered him.
Mmm
Who would have played Batman if he were to appear??
He was already cast in the Batwoman show, Warren Christie.
@@Batmobileize kinda odd that he appeared in Arrow Season 1 as a jerk millionaire old friend of Oliver.
@uncannydcmarvelous5732 More like a funny coincidence tbh. Plus he only ever appeared as Oliver's jerk millionaire friend from high school in one episode all the way back in early Season 1 in 2012, WAYYY before the idea of a shared universe with metahumans and concepts like the multiverse or time travel were even a thought. No one thought they would cast the same guy to play Bruce Wayne 8 years later when they showed his face in the Batwoman Season 1 finale in 2020.
And I guess you can say that Crisis might've changed some things. Warren Christie played Oliver's friend on Earth-1 but what if on Supergirl's original Earth, he was Bruce Wayne (like how Brandon Routh was Ray Palmer on Earth-1 but Superman on Earth-96), and Crisis just mashed it all together since the Bruce face reveal happened after Crisis on Infinite Earths. That's always been my headcanon anyways.
And for fun, now you can pretend that Oliver met Bruce Wayne in that episode instead of "Carter Bowen".
The difference between marvel and dc is that marvel uses their big three religiously while dc refuses to use their most popular heroes
They use their big three? They just save them for movies. Marvel also does not tend to use their big three in LA series'. How many times has Spidey, Wolverine, and Cap been on a LA tv show?
lol so cringe.