Bro, you have an incredible channel with a wealth of knowledge that I believe can help a lot of people with their everyday creative endeavors. I personally really want to be able to go back and watch your videos and integrate some of the ideas and techniques into some of the stuff I do. I really hope you’ll be around when I get the time and resources to do it. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience. I think you have a very intentional way of doing it and I really appreciate it.
As someone who works with wood and concrete, 2 imperfect things, a robot would need insane amounts of adaptation to handle those minute differences. Like wood drying, bent wood, concrete expansion/contraction, completing concrete forms in odd locations. Buuut if there was a robot that came in and measured everything id be down with that. But many things take lots of strange considerations that AI may or may not be able to handle. Its like a surgeon robot... i dunno haha
I would caveat that with "experienced" tradesman. Frankly, I have come across some HACKS with their papers stuck in their glove compartments who shouldn't even be allowed to replace the plug on an extension cord!
I went into the trades after engineering and then came back to engineering. Won't trust 95% of the tradies with anything that requires critical thinking.
Yeah, agree. He's being very generous and painting with a broad brush. I've had experience with the quality of work of a lot of tradies, and many (most?) don't care. They're paid on volume and upselling, and their work reflects these perverse incentives. At least, this is my experience with roofing, construction, HVAC, and electrical. I've realized if I don't want to get screwed with overpriced shoddy work, I have to read up, learn the procedures, and do it myself. Many also have an active contempt for the DIYer, regardless of work quality. I've quoted chapter and verse of the NEC to an inspector on a particular item, explaining that his interpretation is based on the 2014 code, and the 2017-onwards changed, and literally got "eh. Don't care. do it my way or don't get a signoff." My favorite test is asking whether it's "voltage or current that kills" or "is it true that electricity follows the path of least resistance" to an electrician as a gauge of whether they know what they're talking about.
Experience but also keeping up on current standards. Alot of NEC rules are written post mortem to a real world disaster. Some tradesman go off of what they were taught as an apprentice. Which was kosher in those days but no longer passes inspection. Fun fact: NYC still follows the 2011 NYC NEC.
As a tradesman, personally I love your videos, they often spark a train of thought that will inadvertently help me in my own work. I appreciate the work you do, especially your focus on value. Please keep the videos coming.
We are on the same team, a lot of guys forget that. As a dropout engineer working as an aircraft mechanic, I will see engineers cursed often for designs of aircraft not being easily conducive to maintenance. I have to sometimes tell them to take a step back and ask how they would design it! Literally, take a step back and look at all of these extremely complicated, redundant, expansive systems all interconnected! Things are going to get overlooked, that's why we get paid well.
If you wanted to you could always go back to engineering and probably suprise yourself! You may find that they were right and that you can make it easier to maintain. Having the knowledge of how tradesmen service aircrafts would more than likely actually help with improving existing technologies/systems. The other week i was helping a friend with some water damage in her kitchen (the melamine shelf underneath her sink was like a wet wheatbix) and I surprised myself. I am a wall and floor tiler by trade but turns out an inventer by necessity. I ended up having to disconnect her plumbing to remove and replace her shelf and in the process ended up making a new design of connecting two pieces of pvc together (that is better than the existing connection) 😂 . I am not a plumber but that's the beauty of it, had I been a plumber I would know which method they use to connect the s trap to the water out pipe and done it the same way but because I didn't know I had to use my brain for problem solving and not information/memory recall. Last night I made big steps on my new product prototype, and I think it would probably impress an electrician too. In saying that I would love to see a plumber and electrician in my trade as I'm sure they would have fresh eyes and fresh ideas for some problems I have and may not even see as problems
Don't give up on your dreams. Masters of nuns can get paid pretty well but it depends on how much people put in the offering plate... 😉👌 (GOD SAW YOU PUT THAT STICK OF GUM AND THAT PAPER CLIP IN THERE, SARAH!! 🫵😡)
A podcast of an engineer with tradespeople. As a tradesperson i am going back to school for engineering because the practicality i could incorporate into design.
current and foreseeable future "AI" can only replace jobs that we've already been able to automate for over thirty years but simply haven't because it would mean putting a huge portion of the population permanently out of work. If you're juggling spreadsheets and writing reports - this means you! If you have to think and you actually do more than twenty minutes of real work in a given day then you are not in any danger.
Im more interested in making products and inventing for the trades people. Replacement is a myth, robots are good for repeat task, trades skills are highly variable
great topic! these thoughts have been an annoyance for soo long. it's good to stop and check emotions at the door and find a common goal for the job at hand. thoughts and rants below... ask a specialist to consult and think a level up and most will break down like hal9000. implementation is the problem. you can be the best construction worker but doesn't mean they can build the best house for humans vs office vs etc .. a lot of pros don't multidiscipline. and people with multidisciplinary skills are not easy to find...so it's usually the "it's not done this way" argument vs "it actually can't be done"... more likely back to its too much work or it's cost more... then they get emotionally invested in there decision vs just lay out the options... then it goes back to the "if you want to do it right, do it yourself" hence why there are soo mandy diy info. just because your a rocket scientist doesn't mean you make rockets for any situation. same with software security, they got the math right but then the coder doesn't know how to make it work at the ux level. electrician should be able to compensate for non traditional designs, but just not the stuff everything in the wall just to follow a lot of possibly antiquated or arbitrary rules due to being "cheep" and call it a day. hence the whole engineers hate mechanics joke. Was and auto engineer and the reality is that it wasn't your job and you don't get the freedom to be helpful... unless you are a lead or own you own company.
I’ve just started watching your videos a couple weeks ago I believe and enjoy your insight. I’m also a former TAMU architecture student. (Ended up completing my undergrad elsewhere, but spent many hours at Hotel Langford learning and doing very cool stuff. Still unclear about once an Aggie always an Aggie thing so this is reason for embarrassing long intro) Anyways, my QUESTION is….do you think the way most people process “problem/solution” will be misinterpreted or implemented into what a type of technocracy or “expert fiat” stamped solutions which seemed to lead to doing things ie like the past 4-5 years. I’m not sure I’ve explained that correctly as I’ve just woke up. My apologies lol I enjoy your channel though very much
The best & brightest minds in Silicon Valley & Guangzhou-Shenzhen have created robots / manufacturing techniques to remove labor costs from the equation. The unemployed factory workers were told to learn a different type of. Now A.I. is maturing & will reduce the need for Doctors. Hospitals are replacing them with less expensive Registered Nurses with A.I. laptops.
doctors and nurses and technicians are always in need of better tools to process patient information... forever till we become immortal... if not invincible.
Dude, please don't apologize - Your job (read: "greater purpose in life") as an engineer is different to that of a tradesperson. Those who don't understand it are missing out.
Totally agree, have seen a few of his videos, and it is never from the view of him being better it is just curiousity and a need to share the knowledge. If people get annoyed with that it's on them
That is a sick shirt. Have you considered wearing a platinum or white gold dangling crucifix ear ring? If not don't even consider it just go get your left ear pierced and rock it in the podcast album art or wtf they call that these days mang
Do you have a recommendation for 20/20 extrusion? Mostly a question to increase your UA-cam score, but I am also curious given I see them in the background.
Comparing apples to oranges. The type of work an engineer does is different than the type of work a tradesman does although it can be difficult to pinpoint the exact difference between the two. That being said if they're at all serious about their work it's not all that uncommon for a tradesman to have a college degree in a field related to what they do (i.e. plenty of electricians out there have degrees in electrical or electronics engineering, plenty of construction workers have degrees in architectural/structural/construction engineering, plenty of auto mechanics have degrees in mechanical engineering, etc)
I'd like to see you test the ethanol % in that probably ethanol free gas you got behind you 12:00. The ones Hasqvarna and the other industry guys make. I'm just a guy that was 2 equations from being an engineer that said fuck it cus engineers do some of THE dumbest things in the smartest ways. I didn't wanna turn out like that.
Good, experienced tradespeople will continuously learn from all sources available... but that takes time. An AI powered robot will learn from all available sources, including every other robot doing the same job, *instantly.* Humans can't compete against that. A human trades-person has to make decisions about tasks "not worth doing," the stuff that takes too long and where a shortcut is good enough. A robot can take the time. It doesn't matter if robots take 4x or 8x longer than skilled tradespeople... they'll still cost less. Humans can't compete against that. It will take time to build the robots. It will take time for them to learn the job... and they can only really learn by doing. But, the end result is obvious. Once the robots learn... they all know, right from the factory. On day-1, they are as skilled as the most experienced one in existence. Skilled trades might outlast most white-collar jobs but in the end... well, It's Bob the Builder time. Skilled tradespeople will be robot managers, only because we want to pretend we need human robot managers. Don't worry, most white-collar jobs are entirely unnecessary too. Tradespeople will get used to it.
Yes please make a podcast! I was just looking for a podcast similar to your videos. There are no podcasts for engineers like this.
I would also love to see David on the Being an Engineer Podcast, with Aaron Moncur!
Or even better, start a podcast as a co-host with Aaron.
I would also be interested in listening, or joining.
Bro, you have an incredible channel with a wealth of knowledge that I believe can help a lot of people with their everyday creative endeavors. I personally really want to be able to go back and watch your videos and integrate some of the ideas and techniques into some of the stuff I do. I really hope you’ll be around when I get the time and resources to do it. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience. I think you have a very intentional way of doing it and I really appreciate it.
Respect to David for being a humble guy.
Keep up your good work, mate!
As someone who works with wood and concrete, 2 imperfect things, a robot would need insane amounts of adaptation to handle those minute differences. Like wood drying, bent wood, concrete expansion/contraction, completing concrete forms in odd locations. Buuut if there was a robot that came in and measured everything id be down with that. But many things take lots of strange considerations that AI may or may not be able to handle. Its like a surgeon robot... i dunno haha
Ive heard of roomba style small robots that prints layout on new concrete slabs
I would caveat that with "experienced" tradesman. Frankly, I have come across some HACKS with their papers stuck in their glove compartments who shouldn't even be allowed to replace the plug on an extension cord!
could you please elaborate?
I went into the trades after engineering and then came back to engineering. Won't trust 95% of the tradies with anything that requires critical thinking.
Yeah, agree. He's being very generous and painting with a broad brush. I've had experience with the quality of work of a lot of tradies, and many (most?) don't care. They're paid on volume and upselling, and their work reflects these perverse incentives. At least, this is my experience with roofing, construction, HVAC, and electrical.
I've realized if I don't want to get screwed with overpriced shoddy work, I have to read up, learn the procedures, and do it myself.
Many also have an active contempt for the DIYer, regardless of work quality. I've quoted chapter and verse of the NEC to an inspector on a particular item, explaining that his interpretation is based on the 2014 code, and the 2017-onwards changed, and literally got "eh. Don't care. do it my way or don't get a signoff."
My favorite test is asking whether it's "voltage or current that kills" or "is it true that electricity follows the path of least resistance" to an electrician as a gauge of whether they know what they're talking about.
Experience but also keeping up on current standards. Alot of NEC rules are written post mortem to a real world disaster.
Some tradesman go off of what they were taught as an apprentice. Which was kosher in those days but no longer passes inspection.
Fun fact: NYC still follows the 2011 NYC NEC.
As a tradesman, personally I love your videos, they often spark a train of thought that will inadvertently help me in my own work.
I appreciate the work you do, especially your focus on value.
Please keep the videos coming.
We are on the same team, a lot of guys forget that. As a dropout engineer working as an aircraft mechanic, I will see engineers cursed often for designs of aircraft not being easily conducive to maintenance. I have to sometimes tell them to take a step back and ask how they would design it! Literally, take a step back and look at all of these extremely complicated, redundant, expansive systems all interconnected! Things are going to get overlooked, that's why we get paid well.
If you wanted to you could always go back to engineering and probably suprise yourself!
You may find that they were right and that you can make it easier to maintain. Having the knowledge of how tradesmen service aircrafts would more than likely actually help with improving existing technologies/systems.
The other week i was helping a friend with some water damage in her kitchen (the melamine shelf underneath her sink was like a wet wheatbix) and I surprised myself.
I am a wall and floor tiler by trade but turns out an inventer by necessity.
I ended up having to disconnect her plumbing to remove and replace her shelf and in the process ended up making a new design of connecting two pieces of pvc together (that is better than the existing connection) 😂 .
I am not a plumber but that's the beauty of it, had I been a plumber I would know which method they use to connect the s trap to the water out pipe and done it the same way but because I didn't know I had to use my brain for problem solving and not information/memory recall.
Last night I made big steps on my new product prototype, and I think it would probably impress an electrician too.
In saying that I would love to see a plumber and electrician in my trade as I'm sure they would have fresh eyes and fresh ideas for some problems I have and may not even see as problems
Its important/necessary to specialize you wont get paid well enough to be a jack of all trades and a master of nun.
Don't give up on your dreams. Masters of nuns can get paid pretty well but it depends on how much people put in the offering plate... 😉👌
(GOD SAW YOU PUT THAT STICK OF GUM AND THAT PAPER CLIP IN THERE, SARAH!! 🫵😡)
I'd love to listen to your podcast while disassembling those nasty 3D print supports, learnt a lot from you thank you !
You share a lot of good info. Get a podcast going and talk to industry experts from every field. Get the conversation going.
A podcast of an engineer with tradespeople. As a tradesperson i am going back to school for engineering because the practicality i could incorporate into design.
My favorite UA-cam channel currently
yes podcast!!
Very nice video, I do agree with you.
I would be interested in being a podcast listener.
current and foreseeable future "AI" can only replace jobs that we've already been able to automate for over thirty years but simply haven't because it would mean putting a huge portion of the population permanently out of work. If you're juggling spreadsheets and writing reports - this means you!
If you have to think and you actually do more than twenty minutes of real work in a given day then you are not in any danger.
A podcast is a great idea. Do it!
Im more interested in making products and inventing for the trades people. Replacement is a myth, robots are good for repeat task, trades skills are highly variable
Absolutely. Do what we can to make their jobs easier, but there’s no chance we’ll ever replace them, nor would we want to.
great topic! these thoughts have been an annoyance for soo long. it's good to stop and check emotions at the door and find a common goal for the job at hand.
thoughts and rants below...
ask a specialist to consult and think a level up and most will break down like hal9000.
implementation is the problem. you can be the best construction worker but doesn't mean they can build the best house for humans vs office vs etc
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a lot of pros don't multidiscipline. and people with multidisciplinary skills are not easy to find...so it's usually the "it's not done this way" argument vs "it actually can't be done"... more likely back to its too much work or it's cost more... then they get emotionally invested in there decision vs just lay out the options... then it goes back to the "if you want to do it right, do it yourself" hence why there are soo mandy diy info.
just because your a rocket scientist doesn't mean you make rockets for any situation.
same with software security, they got the math right but then the coder doesn't know how to make it work at the ux level.
electrician should be able to compensate for non traditional designs, but just not the stuff everything in the wall just to follow a lot of possibly antiquated or arbitrary rules due to being "cheep" and call it a day.
hence the whole engineers hate mechanics joke. Was and auto engineer and the reality is that it wasn't your job and you don't get the freedom to be helpful... unless you are a lead or own you own company.
I’ve just started watching your videos a couple weeks ago I believe and enjoy your insight. I’m also a former TAMU architecture student. (Ended up completing my undergrad elsewhere, but spent many hours at Hotel Langford learning and doing very cool stuff. Still unclear about once an Aggie always an Aggie thing so this is reason for embarrassing long intro)
Anyways, my QUESTION is….do you think the way most people process “problem/solution” will be misinterpreted or implemented into what a type of technocracy or “expert fiat” stamped solutions which seemed to lead to doing things ie like the past 4-5 years. I’m not sure I’ve explained that correctly as I’ve just woke up. My apologies lol
I enjoy your channel though very much
Make a podcast! I really enjoy hearing your take on things!!
Another podcast yes vote here.
The best & brightest minds in Silicon Valley & Guangzhou-Shenzhen have created robots / manufacturing techniques to remove labor costs from the equation. The unemployed factory workers were told to learn a different type of. Now A.I. is maturing & will reduce the need for Doctors. Hospitals are replacing them with less expensive Registered Nurses with A.I. laptops.
doctors and nurses and technicians are always in need of better tools to process patient information... forever till we become immortal... if not invincible.
Tools should increase productivity, not replace it.
I would listen to the podcast.
Dude, please don't apologize - Your job (read: "greater purpose in life") as an engineer is different to that of a tradesperson. Those who don't understand it are missing out.
Totally agree, have seen a few of his videos, and it is never from the view of him being better it is just curiousity and a need to share the knowledge. If people get annoyed with that it's on them
That is a sick shirt. Have you considered wearing a platinum or white gold dangling crucifix ear ring? If not don't even consider it just go get your left ear pierced and rock it in the podcast album art or wtf they call that these days mang
Good video
Do you have a recommendation for 20/20 extrusion? Mostly a question to increase your UA-cam score, but I am also curious given I see them in the background.
You have such an interesting mind. Do you feel as sharp as you want to be?
Comparing apples to oranges. The type of work an engineer does is different than the type of work a tradesman does although it can be difficult to pinpoint the exact difference between the two. That being said if they're at all serious about their work it's not all that uncommon for a tradesman to have a college degree in a field related to what they do (i.e. plenty of electricians out there have degrees in electrical or electronics engineering, plenty of construction workers have degrees in architectural/structural/construction engineering, plenty of auto mechanics have degrees in mechanical engineering, etc)
I'd like to see you test the ethanol % in that probably ethanol free gas you got behind you 12:00. The ones Hasqvarna and the other industry guys make.
I'm just a guy that was 2 equations from being an engineer that said fuck it cus engineers do some of THE dumbest things in the smartest ways. I didn't wanna turn out like that.
Good, experienced tradespeople will continuously learn from all sources available... but that takes time. An AI powered robot will learn from all available sources, including every other robot doing the same job, *instantly.* Humans can't compete against that. A human trades-person has to make decisions about tasks "not worth doing," the stuff that takes too long and where a shortcut is good enough. A robot can take the time. It doesn't matter if robots take 4x or 8x longer than skilled tradespeople... they'll still cost less. Humans can't compete against that. It will take time to build the robots. It will take time for them to learn the job... and they can only really learn by doing. But, the end result is obvious. Once the robots learn... they all know, right from the factory. On day-1, they are as skilled as the most experienced one in existence.
Skilled trades might outlast most white-collar jobs but in the end... well, It's Bob the Builder time. Skilled tradespeople will be robot managers, only because we want to pretend we need human robot managers. Don't worry, most white-collar jobs are entirely unnecessary too. Tradespeople will get used to it.
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