Sir it's a pleasure to listen to your lectures. There are two legends in our profession who can speak endlessly without looking at a piece of paper one is Nani phalkivala sir and the other is justice rohington nariman sir. Two people whose lectures i would like to hear whenever I get an opportunity in present day are Harish salve sir and justice nariman sir.
What a scholarly and eloquent discourse on what true freedom of speech should mean in a democracy. Why it is so crucial for preserving and fostering a genuine and tolerant republic. And also its historical evolution! Hope we have more such brilliant, upright and public-spirited leaders in not only our judiciary but all walks of public life! It may be too-long for many, in today’s ‘abbreviated’ world of Twitter, Instagram and Tik-Tok. But worth every minute you invest in listening!
Well explained to all of us the principles and importance of free speech. And strong words of advice to the present government. Hope the government is listening.
I really feel that Justice Rohinton Nariman should have been now on the Constitution Bench along with CJI. Justice Nariman is undoubtedly an exceptional intellectual and a genius. He is also a Parsi priest with entire Zorastrian scriptures on his fingertips.
Wish we had some body of his stature in the ruling and we need youngsters to understand the roots of history and dismiss the social media history that circulates.... Thanks Mr Nariman for enlightening the liberty of thought and sparking the beacon of hope in every one.
We as a residential society have filed a case against a developer who hasn't paid our rents for over 3 years and redevelopment project is at a halt for 4 years, case hearings on for more than 2 years now with judgment passed by Hon Mumbai High Court several months back, judges kept changing, we keep getting dates with our cases not being heard, I'm sure there are several cases like these, can our legal experts & channels like these focus on helping us timely justice rather than everyone discussing nonsensical issues? Thanks. 🙏🏻
the first thing that comes to my mind everytime i watch him speak is the fact that he makes complex things so easy and palatable for common people to consume.it has always been a pleasure to watch this legend into action it was a super enriching session looking forward to many more.
He himself is the descendant of those who had escaped persecution by Muslim brutes and fell at the feet of Hindus. And now he advises the hindus to tolerate the very same brutes. How it is possible? Is it palatable now?
@@sm9214 As a buddhist, i want to remind of a fact which Brahmin religion deliberately hides of the m+assa+cre of Buddhist by Brahmins during the same time when Parsi has to leave Iran. And biggest hypocrisy is now Brahmins mur++derers r+×apist claims that their Pakhand Religion is the religion of tolerance and Peace Coexistence. You have stains of b×lood on ur hand of innocent millions of buddhist. Buddhist had been eliminated from the land of Buddha by foreign brahmins. Isnt it the time that brahmin religion should come out in public and seek humble apology from Buddhist all around the world
@दोस्ती बनी रहे You are wrong friend. Credits for the Annihilation of Bhuddism also goes to the Muslim brutes. I better leave to Dr Ambedkar. Who else could have made an honest and thorough study on the subject than him? "There can be no doubt that the fall of Buddhism in India was due to the invasions of the Musalmans. Islam came out as the enemy of the ‘But which is the Arabic corruption of Buddha. Islam destroyed Buddhism not only in India but wherever it went. Before Islam came into being Buddhism was the religion of Bactria, Parthia, Afghanistan, Gandhar and Chinese Turkestan, as it was of the whole of Asia.1 In all these countries Islam destroyed Buddhism. As Vicent Smith points out : “The furious massacre perpetrated in many places by Musalman invaders were more efficacious than Orthodox Hindu persecutions, and had a great deal to do with the disapperance of Buddhism in several provinces (of India)". Here 'More efficacious than Orthodox Hindu persecutions..." also explained by Dr Ambedkar. He says Muslims considered Brahmins as the original and the Buddhist monks as bald imitations and therefore killed them. Dr Ambedkar adds the decline is also because the monks did every work like carpentry to earn a living but Brahmins did nothing but religious duties such as priesthood or presiding over homas - never deviating from the Vedic duties.
Very Good. FREEDOM OF SPEECH must be maintained, thoroughly protected and seen being enforced. Should not be allowed to be restricted by ANY Govt., ANY Institution, Any Platform, either operating in form of Electronic Media or otherwise and by self-serving rules and interpretation are violation of fundamental rights given in the constitution which must be kept in mind by anyone trying to restrict people's expression in any mode. "Public order" is NO blanket exception to restrict - Freedom of Speech - this must be kept in mind whoever wants to put restriction in any manner.
In Judges profile on SUPREME COURT judges Justice Nariman proudly claimed 1st class in School. I was glad to learn about this brilliant judge with 1st class in school. Really proud to see a judge with 1st class.
On a lighter note: As a Bengaluriga the topic and channel name coincides very well for me 'The bar bench free speech' is all that happens after two rounds! What's wonderful is in our Bar bench the verdict and closure are swift and visible. It's either a swift puke or prolonged highness!
Free speech does not mean anyone can say crap and get away with it! Abuse of free speech WILL NOT be tolerated! Those abusing it must be treated as criminals!
INDIA IS GREAT STRONG SECULAR AND LARGEST DEMOCRACY IN THE GLOBAL WORLD BECAUSE INDIANS ARE SPECIALLY BLESSED TALENTED SMART HARDWORKING HONEST AND HUMBLE 👏
The intellectual clan of this land, which we named and are addressing as the Union of India (with 29 states as different and distinct entities!!), should start thinking actively and speaking boldly about the country as a Nation and its governance! Can we find any statesmanship in the national leadership and administration? I doubt and am curious to see the reactions of the middle aged citizens of this vast democracy, who only appear to be busy or, sare made busy with an instrument in pursuance of cash transfer transactions! !😊😄
For anyone who has a problem with talent - most of our society follow the family profession and become good at it. Also then Justice Nariman critised Nehru two to three time. He is advocating only the power of people and nothing else.
Why is this idea of free speech not applicable to the judiciary!!! Judiciary sees itself as beyond reproach and accountability. It will be worthwhile if they spend this energy in finding ways to reduce pending cases.
Just see number of cases a judge clears... Be an educated man.. SC hears 60/70 cases daily.. let alone all the HCs.. The Govt is the main litigant.. What do you think? A law has been amended which has a chilling effect on freedom of speech.. and the Executive is catching all its opponent under this? Will you pendency then... In a case, ED caught a man and drove him to the SC for 200 Rs... Again, I say.. You are free to speak.. but in foing so.. don't be sensed that ypu lack knowledge
Some Indians should produce documentaries on the British Royal family' racial hate kicking even the royal couple out of the country. If even a royal family member is no more than a black, what the hell of intolerance Rahul, the black had to address Cambridge? What is the Fate of black Indian settlers there? What locus standi BBC has got to advice us on Inclusiveness?
Hear the sermons of all matters but nothing about dynastic collegium and the number of cases pending in courts. The dire situation of people fighting for justice in courts nothing in front of this glory speeches
You don't have to go that far 43:00 in up few days ago a journalist asked some tough question to education minister and now he's being charged with FIR and is in jail.
What BBC presented was virtually against the ruling by the SC in the Gujrat riot case where Modi was exonerated after multiple inquiries. So I wonder if Justice Nariman agrees with BBC that the SC had given a wrong judgement.
Justice Rohinton Nariman is totally disconnected with the Socio-economic-politico conditions of different strata of Indian society which also differs in different parts of the India. Quoting US court judgements is good academic & intellectual discourse but impractical in actual jurisprudence. Free speech is what has got the US to its present abysmal state. Expecting maturity & discipline from an uneducated section of the populace to safe guard free speech is like scattering pearls before swine. The Justices of Indian jurispridence hv fAILED to dispense justice TIMELY & the contents of judgements in most cases are ludicrous since judges are divorced from reality. Naxal Violence, as an example, is the end result & reaction to a situation that has become intolerable & justice is evaporated. Same holds good in politics of caste divide & religious divide, ideals of liberty & fraternity not withstanding. ⚓️⚔️🇮🇳
We are fed up with these panegyric statements . What was the contribution of the Honble Judge to India or its democracy? He might have been a jurist par excellence, but what had he done to the people or to improve their livelihood? People have lost faith in judiciary which doesn't rise to the occasion when the country is in cricis of democracy &&the voting procedure. The recent SCI, s concurrence with the EC &its blatant validation of much suspected EVMS indicates that it has anti people& democracy , without a sound democraticy how can a judge deliver justice??? There were instances that the renowned judge often safeguarded criminals & corrupted politicians!!!
Is there a dissonance between the ideals enshrined in our constitution and the ideals/values practiced by the current crop of politicians, especially those in the treasury benches? Ambedkar had warned of this possibility in his final speech to the Constituent Assembly. His fears seem to have come true.
Ons side story...could have mentioned about Sar Tan Se Juda slogans in open.. Always religious minority being harassed.. In our country, every year 1 lakhs very high value vehicles r purchased, 3 lakhs r going on foreign tour including lower cort, high court, supreme court judges n lawyers bt tax payers r very very minimum amongst them..Doctors, engineers r also on same page, only middle class r paying taxes honestly... If u r living luxary life n not paying taxes, u have to face IT Dept, EDs...Don't worry, everything will b alright...Kanoon ka dar hona chahiye...waise judges r immune to all such things...left mind will always have problem with nationalist govt
Juri sir, You have been given excellently elucidated regarding freedom of speech means since long back meant since first prime minister india jawahar lal nehru during period of his gouverned had had curb downed that during nehru period efforfully achieved made people as literated/ saksharatha just upto 37 percent up to the year 1964 October then j nehru died. But please please just see the awesomeness facing by the people of india since 2014 our prime minister of India Modiji one by one draconians made from demonetised keeping bin the mind falsely charges made against opposition party particularly on Indian national congress party rehetorically in his each and every speeches does not have consciousness of very basically our Indian constitution of india democratically it well structured and position given as so called shadow government as intact same j nehru while no opposition party strength but he created though in non strength in opposition party leader for parliament of India. But now though majority in opposition party inc but Modiji don't care master. Even dynasties period of time there was system mantri through or he directly went to listened people's praja concerns . But vice versa . Sir I can not say you in one para,one page whole but now now truth are several several our government of India and almost states government utterly failured decelerated giving minimum growth people's performance index, unemployment 10 folds compared with previous manmohan singh government good to the people of india.
The judges are intolerant towards contempt, but feel freedom of speech villifying other dignitaries., expressing different stories based on their own imagination even on court adjudicated matter is OK and falls under freedom of speech ??
How come we the general public don’t hear hate speech against the minority he mentioned. Unless talking openly for the majority community which was absent earlier is misunderstood as talking against the particular minority community. We’ll, enlightened minds can make mistakes too unless they are used to an India before 2014 where if a Hindu said he was a Hindu was considered communal only Muslims or Christians or Sikhs could proudly say who they were. Hindus had only one option of calling themselves secular.
Noted that most of the arguments were based on precedents...and sometimes hinged on to the constitution...which is how laywers argue a case..very technical in nature....But we often over look the fact the constitution and laws are man made..in keeping with certain realities in the past..which could change overtime...example..same sex marriages are allowed in certain countries today, there are US states that has banned/restricted abortions ...based on value changes..and pressure groups....As such, we should not over emphasis the moral basis ..of any legal arguments...whether it for free speech...or sending someone to the gallows for murder or drug trafficking...
I would have appreciated Mr.Nariman, if he had spoken about freedom of Speech of Nupur Sharma. He is only interested in politics and not freedom of speech.
Dikra, just to take you back to the landing of Parsee refugees on the soil of Bharath n your acceptance by the king, when your leaders said you'll live like milk, water n sugar combined. You have prospered very well, you must not forget that you are in Bharath, the most kind nation. The stranglehold on our judiciary is contemptuous of the values of Bharath. The elected leaders are held in highest esteem n we donot like imbeciles bending rules for personal favours.
I am unable to unserstand why incitement or provocative words (free speech) [which do not fall iinto the 8 pigeonholes of exclusion], is considered [in law] to be an offense and therefore amenable to censure. Every adult of sane mind [or groups] has to bear the responsibility of self-discipline and self-control and so NOT get antagonized to such an extent that public order gets disrupted through violence etc.. If he is unable to control himself & gets "incited" or "provoked" - whose fault is that? Who committed the crime? Who broke the law? The first party has only spoken their mind [which is of no consequence whatsover, so far as reality is concerned] whereas the second party has resorted to violence and caused hurt and diusrupted public order! So, while the cause of the ruckus was the free speech by the first party, the second party ought to have exhibited more self-control and resorted with only words or arguements and NOT violence!
Its like saying that - if provoked, I acquire the legal right to take the law into my own hands & deal with the instigator, and that such action would be justifiable in law just because I was provoked!
@@sasikumarn5786 That's exactly the point! If someone says something, I can choose to ignore it & not get provoked. [If I'm mature & tolerant, thats exactly what I'll do] Hwr, law punishes the speaker & not the provoked person who actually broke the law by say, causing hurt.
His very knowledgable judge but his views on present govt is onesided. What is necessity for BBC to bring the decided matter in the highest court which may incite violance. It is degrading our govt. The BJP govt is not creating problems to minorities. In india minorities enjoy more freedom.His various references on freedom of speech etc are admirable.
The following is an excerpt from one of President Obama' speeches: "...... Last week, Prince George showed up to our meeting in his bathrobe. That was a slap in the face. A clear breach in protocol. Although while in England I did have lunch with Her Majesty, the Queen, took in a performance of Shakespeare, hit the links with David Cameron - just in case anybody is still debating whether I’m black enough, I think that settles the debate". Could Rahul be any better? And no matter what constitutional post an Indian might have held. I don't know why our blacks don't exercise the right to freedom of speech against the British whites. Slavery?
Wonderful, informative and extremely thought provoking. India is blessed to have such legal luminaries.
“Our tradition teaches tolerance, our philosophy preaches tolerance, our constitution practices tolerance. Let us not dilute it.” 💯💯💯💯
Thank you sir i tottaly mesmerized by your speech
I have not seen a person with the same eloquence as Mr. Nariman; it is always a delight to see him
Sir it's a pleasure to listen to your lectures. There are two legends in our profession who can speak endlessly without looking at a piece of paper one is Nani phalkivala sir and the other is justice rohington nariman sir. Two people whose lectures i would like to hear whenever I get an opportunity in present day are Harish salve sir and justice nariman sir.
But that Salve is a BJP stooge.
Harish salve is a gomuthra guy who wears half trousers 👖 made in nagpur
Lecture is useless as vast majority of mass do not get any help from judiciary.
What a scholarly and eloquent discourse on what true freedom of speech should mean in a democracy. Why it is so crucial for preserving and fostering a genuine and tolerant republic. And also its historical evolution! Hope we have more such brilliant, upright and public-spirited leaders in not only our judiciary but all walks of public life! It may be too-long for many, in today’s ‘abbreviated’ world of Twitter, Instagram and Tik-Tok. But worth every minute you invest in listening!
Well explained to all of us the principles and importance of free speech. And strong words of advice to the present government. Hope the government is listening.
Good job .
Such pleasure to hear him. Wonderful.
Always a great pleasure to listen to M. Rohinton Nariman, such a well read person.
it's always a pleasure to listen to him. It's unfortunate that it is not often that he speaks.
Justice Nariman is one of the finest judges
Am glad there are still some sane voices like him around …
It's always an enlighting and pleasure to hear justice nariman on constitutional law
I really feel that Justice Rohinton Nariman should have been now on the Constitution Bench along with CJI.
Justice Nariman is undoubtedly an exceptional intellectual and a genius.
He is also a Parsi priest with entire Zorastrian scriptures on his fingertips.
Wish we had some body of his stature in the ruling and we need youngsters to understand the roots of history and dismiss the social media history that circulates.... Thanks Mr Nariman for enlightening the liberty of thought and sparking the beacon of hope in every one.
We as a residential society have filed a case against a developer who hasn't paid our rents for over 3 years and redevelopment project is at a halt for 4 years, case hearings on for more than 2 years now with judgment passed by Hon Mumbai High Court several months back, judges kept changing, we keep getting dates with our cases not being heard, I'm sure there are several cases like these, can our legal experts & channels like these focus on helping us timely justice rather than everyone discussing nonsensical issues?
Thanks. 🙏🏻
Once a Tiger, always a Tiger. 👍
Truly an heir of Fali Nariman's legacy
the first thing that comes to my mind everytime i watch him speak is the fact that he makes complex things so easy and palatable for common people to consume.it has always been a pleasure to watch this legend into action it was a super enriching session looking forward to many more.
He himself is the descendant of those who had escaped persecution by Muslim brutes and fell at the feet of Hindus.
And now he advises the hindus to tolerate the very same brutes.
How it is possible?
Is it palatable now?
@@sm9214 As a buddhist, i want to remind of a fact which Brahmin religion deliberately hides of the m+assa+cre of Buddhist by Brahmins during the same time when Parsi has to leave Iran. And biggest hypocrisy is now Brahmins mur++derers r+×apist claims that their Pakhand Religion is the religion of tolerance and Peace Coexistence.
You have stains of b×lood on ur hand of innocent millions of buddhist. Buddhist had been eliminated from the land of Buddha by foreign brahmins. Isnt it the time that brahmin religion should come out in public and seek humble apology from Buddhist all around the world
@दोस्ती बनी रहे You are wrong friend. Credits for the Annihilation of Bhuddism also goes to the Muslim brutes.
I better leave to Dr Ambedkar. Who else could have made an honest and thorough study on the subject than him?
"There can be no doubt that the fall of Buddhism in India was due
to the invasions of the Musalmans. Islam came out as the enemy of the ‘But which is the Arabic corruption of Buddha.
Islam destroyed Buddhism not only in India but wherever it went.
Before Islam came into being Buddhism was the religion of Bactria, Parthia, Afghanistan,
Gandhar and Chinese Turkestan, as it was of the whole of Asia.1 In all these countries Islam destroyed Buddhism.
As Vicent Smith points out :
“The furious massacre perpetrated in many places by Musalman invaders were more efficacious than Orthodox Hindu persecutions, and had a great deal to do with the disapperance of Buddhism in several provinces (of India)".
Here 'More efficacious than Orthodox Hindu persecutions..." also explained by Dr Ambedkar.
He says Muslims considered Brahmins as the original and the Buddhist monks as bald imitations and therefore killed them.
Dr Ambedkar adds the decline is also because the monks did every work like carpentry to earn a living but Brahmins did nothing but religious duties such as priesthood or presiding over homas - never deviating from the Vedic duties.
@@sm9214 pakhandi brahman jhut bolna to tumlog k khoon me hai
@@sm9214 agr proof hai to aa Rational World channel par debate kar k duniya ko bata de ki buddh dhamma ko mitane mae brahmano ka koi haat nahi hai
I am very happy to hear this lecture and felt as premise of supreme court. I saw your voice and expression as Judge which never will be forgotten.
Ji u r a 💎. Whenever I listen to you I remember the late Nani whose budget speeches I never miss as i was a member of FORUM OF FREE ENTERPRISE 🙏
Very educative equally to lawyers, students, general public and even for judicial officers
A truly erudite Judge and teacher. Salute his speech.
Beautifully articulated and enlightening.
Very Good. FREEDOM OF SPEECH must be maintained, thoroughly protected and seen being enforced. Should not be allowed to be restricted by ANY Govt., ANY Institution, Any Platform, either operating in form of Electronic Media or otherwise and by self-serving rules and interpretation are violation of fundamental rights given in the constitution which must be kept in mind by anyone trying to restrict people's expression in any mode. "Public order" is NO blanket exception to restrict - Freedom of Speech - this must be kept in mind whoever wants to put restriction in any manner.
Such an inspiration for anyone in pursuit of knowledge
Love and respect for sir
Very good lecture the best in justice community former CJI termed justice Rohinton is a lion as a judge
Excellent speech..! Delivering such a well articulated speech in this era of suppression of freedom of speech itself is a revolution 👏 👌
In Judges profile on SUPREME COURT judges Justice Nariman proudly claimed 1st class in School. I was glad to learn about this brilliant judge with 1st class in school. Really proud to see a judge with 1st class.
Thank you live law for this most illuminating and fearless lecture
J.Nariman is a J sans pareil!
👍🏼❤️ Very happy to listen to the great scholar but sad having such legends in our judiciary have no power to correct the system..
Good to hear your thoughts on freedom of speech citing very important judgments and experiences without a piece of paper
Simply Brilliant,,,
There is a big difference between the Freedom of Speech and the spreading of Lies.
On a lighter note: As a Bengaluriga the topic and channel name coincides very well for me 'The bar bench free speech' is all that happens after two rounds!
What's wonderful is in our Bar bench the verdict and closure are swift and visible.
It's either a swift puke or prolonged highness!
Authority on constitutional law. Outstanding.
Scholarship and courage at its best.
Superb
HAMARI AAN, BAAN SHAAN HAMARA INDIA HAI SAB SE MAHAAN
writing phonetically in Malayalam is not translation!
Excellent speech... Very enlightening...
Enlighten n delighted talk
Free speech does not mean anyone can say crap and get away with it! Abuse of free speech WILL NOT be tolerated! Those abusing it must be treated as criminals!
As also those who adept at spin
such good jurists should be appointed to apex court more often than not who are so prolific and can strengthen the institution of higher judiciary.
It's an inspiring, educational, and enlightening to today's young lawyers n judges.
Beautifully described !!!
INDIA IS GREAT STRONG SECULAR AND LARGEST DEMOCRACY IN THE GLOBAL WORLD BECAUSE INDIANS ARE SPECIALLY BLESSED TALENTED SMART HARDWORKING HONEST AND HUMBLE 👏
Everyone knows his Credibility. The less said the better...
You sound like the typical resentful butt-hurt bhakt.
My Hero!
Thank you sir
Absolutely brilliant and daring
Excellent
Great to hear him. Phenomenal memory. Scholarly. This will send shivers in the spine of the ruling establishment.
Christian convert, we don't fear congress coolies.
PRAYERS AND PRAYERS 🙏 BY RAVINDER TALWAR JALANDHAR CITY PUNJAB INDIA
Excellent judge 👌👌👌👏👏👏
The intellectual clan of this land, which we named and are addressing as the Union of India (with 29 states as different and distinct entities!!), should start thinking actively and speaking boldly about the country as a Nation and its governance! Can we find any statesmanship in the national leadership and administration? I doubt and am curious to see the reactions of the middle aged citizens of this vast democracy, who only appear to be busy or, sare made busy with an instrument in pursuance of cash transfer transactions! !😊😄
Scholarship meets passion and erudition
I am come from PW by sajasun rajneesh sir also I am asparent of upsc
Let this judge keep quiet after retirement!? Who wants his homilies ?
For anyone who has a problem with talent - most of our society follow the family profession and become good at it.
Also then Justice Nariman critised Nehru two to three time. He is advocating only the power of people and nothing else.
Product of Collegium
One of the last great indian sc judges
You are all the descendants of British and rightly speaking their language. Come down and be Bharatiya.
LONG LIVE INDIA AND ALL INDIANS OF SOVEREIGN SOCIALIST SECULAR DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLIC OF INDIA
Please ask BBC to publish video on theft of Kohinoor and Jaliyaanwala Baug massacre . Do the justice have a courage to ask the BBC about the same ?
Constitution is the most important thing that protects all of us. Not some political party
Why is this idea of free speech not applicable to the judiciary!!! Judiciary sees itself as beyond reproach and accountability.
It will be worthwhile if they spend this energy in finding ways to reduce pending cases.
Just see number of cases a judge clears...
Be an educated man..
SC hears 60/70 cases daily.. let alone all the HCs..
The Govt is the main litigant..
What do you think? A law has been amended which has a chilling effect on freedom of speech.. and the Executive is catching all its opponent under this? Will you pendency then...
In a case, ED caught a man and drove him to the SC for 200 Rs...
Again, I say.. You are free to speak.. but in foing so.. don't be sensed that ypu lack knowledge
Some Indians should produce documentaries on the British Royal family' racial hate kicking even the royal couple out of the country.
If even a royal family member is no more than a black, what the hell of intolerance Rahul, the black had to address Cambridge?
What is the Fate of black Indian settlers there?
What locus standi BBC has got to advice us on Inclusiveness?
Gr8 sir
Ha ha ha. BBC itself banned Linekar. So Much for your free speech and BBC.
Hear the sermons of all matters but nothing about dynastic collegium and the number of cases pending in courts. The dire situation of people fighting for justice in courts nothing in front of this glory speeches
You don't have to go that far 43:00 in up few days ago a journalist asked some tough question to education minister and now he's being charged with FIR and is in jail.
Scrap the collegium system
Nice one... Except his views on BBC .
He was not rewarded for his flawed Judgment in Bishal Jaiswal , So desperation speaks.
Wondering how he pours datas and facts precisely and correctly without a look on any papers on dias
Clearly he knows his subject well.
What BBC presented was virtually against the ruling by the SC in the Gujrat riot case where Modi was exonerated after multiple inquiries. So I wonder if Justice Nariman agrees with BBC that the SC had given a wrong judgement.
Stands to reason...
bbc never bothered to make a documentary on 60 kar sevaks who were burnt alive.
Justice Rohinton Nariman is totally disconnected with the Socio-economic-politico conditions of different strata of Indian society which also differs in different parts of the India. Quoting US court judgements is good academic & intellectual discourse but impractical in actual jurisprudence.
Free speech is what has got the US to its present abysmal state. Expecting maturity & discipline from an uneducated section of the populace to safe guard free speech is like scattering pearls before swine. The Justices of Indian jurispridence hv fAILED to dispense justice TIMELY & the contents of judgements in most cases are ludicrous since judges are divorced from reality. Naxal Violence, as an example, is the end result & reaction to a situation that has become intolerable & justice is evaporated. Same holds good in politics of caste divide & religious divide, ideals of liberty & fraternity not withstanding. ⚓️⚔️🇮🇳
Any comments of Rohington on the BBC’s treatment of Sebastian Coe?
We are fed up with these panegyric statements . What was the contribution of the Honble Judge to India or its democracy? He might have been a jurist par excellence, but what had he done to the people or to improve their livelihood? People have lost faith in judiciary which doesn't rise to the occasion when the country is in cricis of democracy &&the voting procedure. The recent SCI, s concurrence with the EC &its blatant validation of much suspected EVMS indicates that it has anti people& democracy , without a sound democraticy how can a judge deliver justice??? There were instances that the renowned judge often safeguarded criminals & corrupted politicians!!!
Is there a dissonance between the ideals enshrined in our constitution and the ideals/values practiced by the current crop of politicians, especially those in the treasury benches?
Ambedkar had warned of this possibility in his final speech to the Constituent Assembly. His fears seem to have come true.
Anglophile pontificates English law to us what we have had since Baghavad Gita
No we didn’t WhatsApp university grad.
@@gruntgobshite pity this is
Stocklom syndrome. The English reduced us to bare bones and we wax eloquence on English Law
Ons side story...could have mentioned about Sar Tan Se Juda slogans in open.. Always religious minority being harassed.. In our country, every year 1 lakhs very high value vehicles r purchased, 3 lakhs r going on foreign tour including lower cort, high court, supreme court judges n lawyers bt tax payers r very very minimum amongst them..Doctors, engineers r also on same page, only middle class r paying taxes honestly... If u r living luxary life n not paying taxes, u have to face IT Dept, EDs...Don't worry, everything will b alright...Kanoon ka dar hona chahiye...waise judges r immune to all such things...left mind will always have problem with nationalist govt
Juri sir,
You have been given excellently elucidated regarding freedom of speech means since long back meant since first prime minister india jawahar lal nehru during period of his gouverned had had curb downed that during nehru period efforfully achieved made people as literated/ saksharatha just upto 37 percent up to the year 1964 October then j nehru died.
But please please just see the awesomeness facing by the people of india since 2014 our prime minister of India Modiji one by one draconians made from demonetised keeping bin the mind falsely charges made against opposition party particularly on Indian national congress party rehetorically in his each and every speeches does not have consciousness of very basically our Indian constitution of india democratically it well structured and position given as so called shadow government as intact same j nehru while no opposition party strength but he created though in non strength in opposition party leader for parliament of India. But now though majority in opposition party inc but Modiji don't care master. Even dynasties period of time there was system mantri through or he directly went to listened people's praja concerns . But vice versa . Sir I can not say you in one para,one page whole but now now truth are several several our government of India and almost states government utterly failured decelerated giving minimum growth people's performance index, unemployment 10 folds compared with previous manmohan singh government good to the people of india.
First learn the English language and how to write it, then come here to comment.
Greetings
The judges are intolerant towards contempt, but feel freedom of speech villifying other dignitaries., expressing different stories based on their own imagination even on court adjudicated matter is OK and falls under freedom of speech ??
How come we the general public don’t hear hate speech against the minority he mentioned. Unless talking openly for the majority community which was absent earlier is misunderstood as talking against the particular minority community. We’ll, enlightened minds can make mistakes too unless they are used to an India before 2014 where if a Hindu said he was a Hindu was considered communal only Muslims or Christians or Sikhs could proudly say who they were. Hindus had only one option of calling themselves secular.
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Uncompromisingly forthright analysis.
A day will come when Judges will fear occupying the chairs they sit upon
This guy is product of transfer of power.
Judged and Lawyers late at their best when outside court’s
Because that's marketing inside the court it's business!
He will be labelled as Anti Indian.
Noted that most of the arguments were based on precedents...and sometimes hinged on to the constitution...which is how laywers argue a case..very technical in nature....But we often over look the fact the constitution and laws are man made..in keeping with certain realities in the past..which could change overtime...example..same sex marriages are allowed in certain countries today, there are US states that has banned/restricted abortions ...based on value changes..and pressure groups....As such, we should not over emphasis the moral basis ..of any legal arguments...whether it for free speech...or sending someone to the gallows for murder or drug trafficking...
I would have appreciated Mr.Nariman, if he had spoken about freedom of Speech of Nupur Sharma. He is only interested in politics and not freedom of speech.
Dikra, just to take you back to the landing of Parsee refugees on the soil of Bharath n your acceptance by the king, when your leaders said you'll live like milk, water n sugar combined. You have prospered very well, you must not forget that you are in Bharath, the most kind nation.
The stranglehold on our judiciary is contemptuous of the values of Bharath. The elected leaders are held in highest esteem n we donot like imbeciles bending rules for personal favours.
Did he not refer to Nothing !!! 😂❤
I am unable to unserstand why incitement or provocative words (free speech) [which do not fall iinto the 8 pigeonholes of exclusion], is considered [in law] to be an offense and therefore amenable to censure. Every adult of sane mind [or groups] has to bear the responsibility of self-discipline and self-control and so NOT get antagonized to such an extent that public order gets disrupted through violence etc.. If he is unable to control himself & gets "incited" or "provoked" - whose fault is that? Who committed the crime? Who broke the law? The first party has only spoken their mind [which is of no consequence whatsover, so far as reality is concerned] whereas the second party has resorted to violence and caused hurt and diusrupted public order! So, while the cause of the ruckus was the free speech by the first party, the second party ought to have exhibited more self-control and resorted with only words or arguements and NOT violence!
Its like saying that - if provoked, I acquire the legal right to take the law into my own hands & deal with the instigator, and that such action would be justifiable in law just because I was provoked!
First think, why should you be provoked by their incitement. 🤣🤣🤣
@@sasikumarn5786 That's exactly the point! If someone says something, I can choose to ignore it & not get provoked. [If I'm mature & tolerant, thats exactly what I'll do] Hwr, law punishes the speaker & not the provoked person who actually broke the law by say, causing hurt.
His very knowledgable judge but his views on present govt is onesided. What is necessity for BBC to bring the decided matter in the highest court which may incite violance. It is degrading our govt. The BJP govt is not creating problems to minorities. In india minorities enjoy more freedom.His various references on freedom of speech etc are admirable.
The following is an excerpt from one of President Obama' speeches:
"...... Last week, Prince George showed up to our meeting in his bathrobe. That was a slap in the face. A clear breach in protocol.
Although while in England I did have lunch with Her Majesty, the Queen, took in a performance of Shakespeare, hit the links with David Cameron - just in case anybody is still debating whether I’m black enough, I think that settles the debate".
Could Rahul be any better?
And no matter what constitutional post an Indian might have held.
I don't know why our blacks don't exercise the right to freedom of speech against the British whites.
Slavery?