K7 8-Bay NAS Case - Quick review + build
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Stuff used in this video:
K7 8-bay NAS case: amzn.to/3Ww6HM8
U-NAS NSC-810A: www.u-nas.com/xcart/cart.php?...
U-NAS NSC-810. Not as expandable, smaller. Still uses 120mm fans though: www.u-nas.com/xcart/cart.php?...
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FSP FlexATX 500W PSU (not the one I used, but recommended): amzn.to/3WsRVpv
Noctua 92mm fan (HDD bays): amzn.to/3OHXLl7
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Good one
Just watching this, I'm so glad that I stuck with my old Define R5. 4x140mm fans move enough air, even at slower speeds.
Cool case. I'm working on NAS build with a similar cooling conundrum. One of the things about the fans is it isn't necessarily the speed that matters but whether the fan is designed for air flow or high static pressure. The high static pressure matters if there are things impeding the airflow through the case. I believe it comes down to the blade design on the fans.
Thank you for the video! It's a shame that the U-NAS case is permanently out of stock :(
Can u try building a nas with a ryzen 5 4600g pro with ecc
I bought the u-Nas 810a. Both take matx motherboard but another huge difference is way expansion cards are supported. U-Nas needs a pci-e extension cable per card while Audhed supports 1/2 height cards
I am really liking this channel! What I really want to see someone try and do is take the topton n5105 MoB and do M.2 to PCIe x4 adaptor to offload transcoding!!!??? It would be near a perfect board for me if that can be done. Hope you don't mind that I put this same comment on another video of yours; I would kill to see this tested out!
Thanks for this review. I have been looking out for matx nas cases. Would this be your highly recommended unit or is there better ones out there? Also what would your recommendation for hdd? Use: frequent trivial and syncing media related files
This case is pretty good and cheap (for an 8 bay hot swap NAS case), but it's cooling isn't amazing. So if it's going in a room that gets hot you might not be able to keep the drives under 40C. If it's in a cool room or has A/C (or you live somewhere where it doesn't get super hot), it'll be great.
I bought the same. but I can not manage to keep the temperature below 50 degrees... how did you do it?
Thanks for reviewing this. Been looking at them for a while. I'm thinking of moving away from HDDs though. Maybe one for bulk storage, and then SSDs for everything else.
I've done that with all my systems, but moving away from HDDs with things like a giant Plex collection is a bit unfeasible at these SSD prices. Hehe
Yeah, I'm thinking that for stuff like that where it's all backed up (original disks/torrents/cloud storage) just one big HDD might be the way to go. They rarely catastrophically fail with all data lost, and even then could be rebuilt.
Everything else on SSDs, backed up. Forget RAID/ZFS.
It all depends on how much data you have and how much of it you want to be lost in a failure. There's no way I'm re-ripping my massive video collection, so I'm happy to have 15 drives in my main NAS and (soon to be) offsite backups. That and personal videos/photos are worth having a few backups (to me at least :P)
@@PeterBrockie I do have multiple backups of personal stuff, but the rest... I don't even bother ripping my own media these days, just grab a torrent. Someone else has already done it and checked their work. No need to burn CPU cycles repeating what they did.
How much clearance in the case around the power supply? Any chance an SFF power supply might squish in there?
I am going to say no. But honestly, just getting a Jonsbo N3 case instead of this one is going to be my recommendation. It's a much better case which takes a SFX Psu for the same price.
@@PeterBrockie Thanks that is a good suggestion but unfortunately it's only ITX motherboards. I'd love to find an 8 bay one with m-atx and sff support but haven't found anything yet.
Doing a quick check, all I can find is the SST-CS381B. Which is both vastly overpriced and has poor cooling.
If you absolutely need the PCIe slots from matx, you might as well track down a normal tower case with 5.25" bays and add your own hot swap bays. Plus you'll get full ATX.
Drives and M2 are hitting 50C and up for me constantly. Any tips?
M.2 unless it's getting really hot usually isn't a problem, but if your HDDs are at 50C, either run the fans faster or you'll have to track down faster (and louder) fans to replace them.
This case isn't great for drive cooling overall.
Does it support SAS drives?
Yes - with a SAS controller.
Looks like you could easily cram another 3.5" drive or two next to the power supply?
I recommend delta fans (if you dont care about noise)
the small noctua fan on the top chamber is facing the wrong way, tho...
It should be used as an exhaust fan to pull out the hot air produced by the cpu cooler; the case will naturally draw in 'fresh' air from all the open vents to replace the warmer exhausted air, an it will help the motherboard and chipset, etc stay cooler, resulting in lower temps across the whole board.
The way its set up now, it looks like two different air currents are just blowing into each other with no way to effectively exit the case, which likely results in poor air flow and can lead to your sub-optimal temps.
Also, you can usually under-volt AMD cpus by quite a bit; and can reduce temperatures by 10-20c easily without losing any noticeable performance (maybe 200-300 MHz slower, and temper the boost clocks a bit too)
Ive had to do this for some servers...
My logic was simply anything increasing the positive pressure in the case will somewhat help the drives since you need to force air past all that plastic on the hot swap bays. Either way, it didn't make much - if any difference.
If a case is stuffed full of components, is poorly vented, etc... it doesn't matter if you push or pull air. The principle is the same.
@@christopherjames9843 pulling air out is the ventilation.
Also, I have done the testing myself...
The number one way to control the heat in the system is to get the heat away from the system as quickly as possible, the way to accomplish that is to pull the hot air generated by the CPU and vrms directly in front of the fan.
Pushing the heat from the CPU socket area further into the machine will just make things worse, the fastest and most efficient path for it to exit is created by exhausting the heat directly out the rear.
The heat created by the CPU socket area will not spread to the other components if it is no longer inside the chassis
Computer cases (like almost all consumer ones) are not sealed environments, so effects such as positive and negative pressure just do not apply to these circumstances either.
It really is just about getting the heat out of the system as quickly and efficiently as possible
If there is no clear path for the air to go there may be "ventilation" but it is extremely limited. A case crammed full of components is going to have very poor ventilation I don't care how many Delta fans you have at whatever rpm. I don't care if it is push or pull, negative pressure or positive pressure.@@nectarinetangerineorange
Still using the N2 NAS?
Yep. But this case is getting re-sold. I picked up an interesting 6 bay case (which will be a video when I edit it), that I like way more than this 8.
@@PeterBrockie So you didn't like the Jonsbo case? I was thinking of purchasing it.
oh, sorry. You don't like the 8 bay case.
@@christopherjames9843 Correct. The Jonsbo isn't perfect, but it is totally usable. This one is pretty lame.
@@PeterBrockie What case did you get? I'm looking for a NAS case and so far since U-NAS is always out of stock, I'm not sure what to get
the u nas is stupid requiring a riser