333. The Republic of Britain: Life under Cromwell

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • It's 1649 and a new republic has been declared, the Commonwealth of England. It's an age of 17th century republicanism, difficult policies in Ireland, and a serious PR problem... writer and historian Anna Keay joins Tom and Dominic to discuss life under Cromwell.
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  • @SCOTTISHSOULFOOD1
    @SCOTTISHSOULFOOD1 6 місяців тому +9

    Couldn't get out of my mind that the author sounded like Elizabeth 1st from Blackadder

  • @Martin-sp4zf
    @Martin-sp4zf Рік тому +29

    I'm from Ireland.
    One of the worst curses that could be used here was "The curse of Cromwell on you!"/"Mallacht Chrombhéil ort!"
    His memory was still hated up to the 1950s. However his attack on the town of Drogheda, though ruthless, involved the slaughter mostly of his enemies from England, who had fled to that town. The brave defence of the town of Clonmel impressed Cromwell so much that he agreed to allow the native defenders march to the coast and thereafter to France following their surrender.
    PS "Cromwell" is in fact a gaelic name ie "Crom-bhéal" meaning "Turned-down mouth" referring to a "Turned-down Mustache" probably.

    • @CL-we8tn
      @CL-we8tn Рік тому +2

      Or grouch... Lol

    • @Desert-Father
      @Desert-Father 7 місяців тому

      Please try and defend "To hell or to Connaught" now. Revisionist nonsense

    • @IanCross-xj2gj
      @IanCross-xj2gj Місяць тому

      Cromwell ordered his troops to kill the garrison of Drogheda. Confirmed in his letter to Parliament.

    • @Happyheretic2308
      @Happyheretic2308 15 днів тому

      Or Sourpuss.

    • @HarryBartok-e6x
      @HarryBartok-e6x 13 днів тому

      The garrison at Drogheda was commanded by an English royalist called Sir Arthur Aston. He made the mistake of not surrendering. That invited mass slaughter.

  • @Wee_Langside
    @Wee_Langside Місяць тому +2

    Christmas was banned in Scotland from 1640, before Cromwell did, until 1958 (nineteen fifty eight). When i was a child elderly relations talked about going to school on Christmas Day

  • @willdobson7351
    @willdobson7351 19 днів тому +2

    'Instance of the fingerpost' would have made a good tv film/series. I really enjoyed that book.

  • @jonfallis305
    @jonfallis305 9 днів тому

    funny how the irish remember cromwell but forget what they did to the anglo irish 100 years ago

  • @malgorzatajakubowska-chaab3613
    @malgorzatajakubowska-chaab3613 7 місяців тому +14

    The only sad thing that I've heard here today is that Tom Holand is a loyal reader of The Guardian!

    • @billythedog-309
      @billythedog-309 3 місяці тому

      Poor, poor you.

    • @IanCross-xj2gj
      @IanCross-xj2gj Місяць тому

      Tom is a Daily Mirror reader 😮

    • @HarryBartok-e6x
      @HarryBartok-e6x 13 днів тому

      Agreed. Most of its writers have a screw loose these days. I read it in the 1980s.

  • @origen6758
    @origen6758 5 місяців тому +1

    Honestly a cromwellian hereditary republic would look a lot like the United Provinces with the stadtholder

    • @IanCross-xj2gj
      @IanCross-xj2gj Місяць тому

      Cromwell and his Puritan allies could not find a governing system that worked.

  • @davidjob6881
    @davidjob6881 5 місяців тому +1

    Sunak is not a Muslim....he is a Hindu

  • @stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733

    Came here to try and find out what happend to the nobility during the time of the republic.

    • @peterrobinson8588
      @peterrobinson8588 5 місяців тому +1

      A large part of the nobility had supported the Parliament side in the war.

    • @IanCross-xj2gj
      @IanCross-xj2gj Місяць тому

      1646 end of first civil war.
      Royalists are heavily fined by Paliament. 16:00 in the podcast.

  • @screwingupawetdream
    @screwingupawetdream 7 місяців тому +17

    Great program but way too many commercial interruptions. A commercial break literally every 3-4 minutes makes for an unpleasant listening experience.

    • @phillbarnes8513
      @phillbarnes8513 7 місяців тому +2

      Really?… I only had 2 commercials Tbf 🤷‍♂️

    • @simonh6788
      @simonh6788 7 місяців тому +1

      You can listen on Spotify or other podcast provider and only have a couple

    • @PlasticSausages
      @PlasticSausages 7 місяців тому +1

      I would swear they add an advert as soon as you are not looking at the screen. Big brother is watching.

    • @simongleaden2864
      @simongleaden2864 6 місяців тому +3

      I'm in Great Britain - I didn't notice any ad breaks. Maybe UA-cam handles adverts differently in different countries?

    • @baarbacoa
      @baarbacoa 6 місяців тому +7

      That's UA-cam doing. Not the podcasters

  • @IanCross-xj2gj
    @IanCross-xj2gj Місяць тому

    2:14 The 1650s is a period of political turmoil in English history. Cromwell and his Puritan allies couldn't establish a workable government. This ultimately led to the Restoration in 1660.

  • @IanCross-xj2gj
    @IanCross-xj2gj Місяць тому

    34:17 Cromwell in Ireland. This was in response to the Irish rebellion in 1641. Cromwell in 1649, goes to Ireland and deals ruthlessly with the Royalist/Catholic forces. Henry Ireton takes over command in Ireland in 1650.

  • @IanCross-xj2gj
    @IanCross-xj2gj Місяць тому

    18:22 Charles II English invasion in August 1651. This was a Scottish "foreign" army that gained little English support. Defeated at the Battle of Worcester on 3 September.

  • @rubenjames7345
    @rubenjames7345 12 днів тому

    Brilliant, as usual.

  • @colinwhaley244
    @colinwhaley244 5 місяців тому

    Have you not over done this. There's a lot of revisionism in relation to Ireland. Cromwell did not outdo the 30 years war and did you miss out the small point of parts of Ireland holding out for the King or Irelands part in the civil war? Did Parliament go there without cause? Very Manchster Guardian.

  • @ted356
    @ted356 7 місяців тому

    I’m a new subscriber to the channel. Tom, Dom and their guests are incredibly entertainig. 😊

  • @marxussy
    @marxussy Рік тому +1

    Great episode!

  • @jamesjenner8159
    @jamesjenner8159 Рік тому +6

    The Republic of England should be the proper title! 'Britain' did not exist as a politicl entity until Scotland was forced into 'Union' in 1707. England is not Britain but but a nation in the British Isles along with three others who have separate histories, identities and languages. Cymru am byth!

    • @uafchris
      @uafchris 9 місяців тому +2

      England and Scotland were officially unified together as one country from 1657 until the restoration.

    • @williamhaines7876
      @williamhaines7876 8 місяців тому +7

      I would suggest doing some research into the settlement and maybe you will be surprised at Scotlands willingness to unite with England

    • @KeithWilliamMacHendry
      @KeithWilliamMacHendry 8 місяців тому

      @@williamhaines7876 So there was a plebiscite was there? Or just a vote for the ruling elite? If there had been a referendum then the union would have been halted. Scotland was brought into union for empire, not altruism or any of the other nonsense spouted by the British state & its minions. They didn't as so often lied about bail Scotland out, they offered money lost by the elites in the Darien scheme as an effective bribe to accept union & access to empire. They took it & subsequently Scotland played a disproportionately large role in empire, for all the good it did for the ordinary citizens of this whole island & beyond.

    • @michaellynn8081
      @michaellynn8081 8 місяців тому +6

      Scotland was certainly not forced into 'Union' or anything else in 1707 .
      That is a myth which the Scots have enjoyed whinging about ever since. You will find that actually the Scottish nobles and Scottish power brokers involved were more than happy and willing to sign the documents , join the union and even happier still to take the large sums of money they pocketed in the process ( sound particularly 'patriotic' to you by the way...?) . To put it bluntly , at the time Scotland needed us and the union much more than we needed them and the union.
      They are the facts. Do the research.
      England forever !

    • @Desert-Father
      @Desert-Father 7 місяців тому +1

      It was theocratic military junta not a republic. It was governed by a fundamentalist military purged legislature that governed subject to the de facto veto of a fanatical military council and then a military dictator for life in Cromwell. If Brits saw this happen in any other country they would label it as such.

  • @arfermo853
    @arfermo853 5 місяців тому +4

    Better than the muslim hand we have now

  • @CL-we8tn
    @CL-we8tn Рік тому

    Ooo I'm in!

  • @AnthonyBrown12324
    @AnthonyBrown12324 7 місяців тому

    As Lenin grasped ; in 1917 most people want peace and bread .

  • @janetbaker1945
    @janetbaker1945 Рік тому

    What were the names of the two books mentioned, please?

    • @stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733
      @stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733 Рік тому +1

      1984 and a brave new world.

    • @frances081097
      @frances081097 Рік тому +3

      Restless Republic was the history book mentioned (Anna Keay)
      The historical novel mentioned earlier was An Instance of The Fingerpost by Ian Pears

  • @stumccabe
    @stumccabe 7 місяців тому

    Fascinating subject, but the sound quality is so bad that I cannot bear to listen to the whole episode -it's just too much of an effort.

    • @keithkaosHarv
      @keithkaosHarv 5 місяців тому

      Is it that bad?
      It’s not as if you are listening to an orchestra.