Hey david. Thank you so much for the video. I do have few question I found no answer anywhere. First one is, In case of US or CA, we have to manage a professor (who would like us to get admitted into their college and sometimes it opens the door for scholarship too) and then we have to apply centrally. Is it the same case for switzerland? And does managing any professor (if there is any such culture in swiss) somehow improve my chance of getting admitted into the college like in the USA or CA.And as you said, there is an interview for ESOP, does the interviewer somehow is the one of which my given topic would match? Secondly, from your experience (also you've already made a Q&A video about that but there were only 4 people and with very high gpa ofc), what is the weight of GPA in case of getting and ESOP? For example, if I'm from a lesser known uni with an average GPA but if I can propose a good thesis proposal, is there any chance that I might gate accepted? Finally, (I'm so sorry for taking your time) what would you call a good thesis proposal? For example, if my thesis proposal is something an ETH professor have worked with and I want to continue into that field, is it a good proposal or is it something that doesn't have to fit into any professor's previous work domain but can be a very hot topic at that time? Thank you in advance.
Let me know if you have any questions or want me to share more of my application documents for ETH/ESOP! You can download my Pre-Proposal + LaTeX template here: itsdavidalonso.gumroad.com/l/preproposal/youtube
It it great you are putting all of this out of any one interested to see, I would be nice if you could share the latex template. pd: I subscribe to the chanel and I am curious about what else you'll share about ETH
Hello,If we do not meet this 'Very good result in Bachelor’s degree programme (top 10% of Bachelor’s degree programme = grade A)' criterion, can we not apply to the program? Do we have no chance of acceptance.I would be very happy if you answer))
Dear David , you're an amazing person, how you could balance between your school life and also being such a sociable person doing hobbies you love, actually I'm 23 years old I had just finished studying pharmacy at my country, I've the passion to try to get my scholarship at ETHz , I hope to we could meet.
please if you don't mind to ask you, Is it a must to have a specific level in german language when I apply to the ESOP, and you said that the date to start to apply my documents is 15 november i guess, so what could i do untill this date to further boost my chance to be choosen.
@@mohamedismael1847 Of course I don't mind! Feel free to comment on any video of mine! There are absolutely no German requirements for the ESOP. I'm not sure if 15 November is the deadline this year, so I would double check on their website. Until then, without getting too specific, I would try to do some research or take on any other endeavor you are passionate about that is challenging and impactful, preferrably something that connects with research done at ETH.
❤ Your words mean a lot! I am, like many people, just striving to be the best version of myself. I am fuelled by passion that just lives in me and I think grade-wise it also helps that I am competitive and love to learn
@@itsdavidalonso thanks for the advice I'll try to do that, actually i have a little background about computational biology which the subject of master i have the passion to apply for, so to get the scholarship they need a familiar peson with that subject, and Ia the ESOP cover the money from the first year of master or should I pay for the first year?
@@mohamedismael1847 you don't necessarily need to propose a project that is being done at ETH, but if you can tie it to the lab of someone at ETH it helps because they might be reviewing your application. The ESOP will cover all tuition fees and the semester installments of ~12k will start getting payed in the 1st sem of the 1st year. I hope that's clear
Your video is very informative! Thank you for sharing your insights. I wanted to ask, as you mentioned in the video, that there are multiple sub-sections to cover. However, in your template, you have written it under one document as a passage. So, isn't it necessary to outline the timeline that shows our plan weekly for the project? And don't we need to use multiple subheadings to organize the sections?
Hi David! Thank you very much for sharing this. I would like to know about the application fee, is there other application fee we should pay apart the one we paid for the MSc application ? thank you!!!
Hey David, Extremely helpful video! Especially since there's nothing on the internet about ESOP. I'm writing a proposal for physics so it involves a significant jargon. I cannot explain everything in 500 words while also explaining my topic. Who is my target audience for the pre-proposal and how do you recommend mitigating this?
I have a little bit query about dates application starts from 1November to 15 December both for pursuing admission in master programs and ESOP and study starts bt next year in the beginning of September. In this November i only complete my seven smester can i apply for ETH otherwise I have worry about missing my one year .
Thank you David for sharing this amazing information. I browse in the internet that living in Switzerland is expensive. I want to ask, is it possible to live and study in Switzerland only with 12,000 chf from ESOP scholarship?
Hi David! When designing your pre-proposal, would you say it is more important to write about something you are familiar with and have previous experience with or on something relevant to the research of the department you are applying to?
that's a tough one, it depends to what degree you are famiiliar with the topic and it is relevant. I'd try to find something that touches both, and would prioritize your experience. In the end you want to show research maturity
Hey there David! Great video! I think I found the template you used on overleaf, but I'm having issues on aligning the eth logo to the personal data section just like you did. Do you have the code you used for this specific part? I'm finding it very hard being a beginner. I would be very grateful!
Hi Lorenzo, did I not do the same type of alignment? Maybe look in the commented out code. I think if you play around with /vspace{-+xcm} you'll get it working
Hi Ernesto! Thank you! That's the whole idea behind the video, to encourage you to apply. I don't fully understand your question, what do you mean by accept your admission to ETHZ? You have to be admitted to ETH and attend the ETH master to be able to receive the scholarship. So you have to follow the normal ETH application as well as the additional ESOP application
@@itsdavidalonso Sorry, I didn't explain myself. By "accepting your admission to ETHZ" I mean registering for the program after receiving an acceptance letter. Admission results come before ESOP results. Once accepted, some universities require students to confirm that they will indeed enroll in their program in order to be eligible for funding, I wonder if this is the case at ETHZ. Rephrasing my question: are ESOP results independent of whether or not one has registered in ETH by the time ESOP decisions are made? Prospective ESOP recipients will likely have acceptance letters from other top unis besides ETH and funding could be a mayor factor in making the final decision. In your case, once you received your acceptance letter from ETH, did you wait for the ESOP result before registering for the program?
@@ernestosanchez6231 Ahhh now I understand! Yes, I only registered after obtaining the ESOP, since as you mention it had a high impact on my final decision
It can be anything, but as the video mentions I'd recommend you choose something you have expertise in. You don't have to stick to it once you start your masters
@@itsdavidalonso So you're saying the master's thesis can also deal with a different topic than this pre-proposal, right? The pre-proposal you're talking about is really just to show them, that you can plan a research project and get the scholarship?
Hi Carina, do you mean a PhD? That would have been a bit hard given my little research experience at that point, plus I love being a student so I thought doing a Masters would be really fun. The masters has given me a taste of what doing research in my field is like, which is invaluable when deciding whether to do a phd or not. Before my masters I wasn't really sure about a phd
Hi, thanks a lot for this video. I know ETHZ is really competitive. How important are academis grades on ETHZ admission and ESOP? I have 3.6/4 average in Polytechnique Montréal (Canada) in bachelor mechanical engineering and I'm thinking about applying to ETH for master and shoot my shot for ESOP at the same time. Is it realistic or I have to be in top 5% grade? Also, on another subject, the foundation that gives the ESOP has a goal of retaining students to Switzerland after their studies I guess? Therefore, is it worth trying to show I would integrated to Swiss society easily or no? For exemple French is my first language and I'm currently learning German, is it a plus or it's irrelevant? Thanks a lot
Hello, and thank you for your explanation! I have one and probably dumb question. The most important prerequisite is to have very good grades in a Bachelor's degree programme, but do I need to have a bachelor's degree when I'm applying? For example: I'm a student at the university of Padua in Italy, currently at the second year and at the end of september I will begin my third year. The applications for international students will probably begin in november and end in december, so during that period I won't have my bachelor's degree. Can I still apply? If the answer is yes, what happens if my grades go down during the third year?
Hey Davena, not a dumb question at all :) You can still apply, as I know several cases of people who were accepted while still finishing the last half of their last BSc year. And the acceptance is unconditional (as long as you pass everything and graduate ofc). Hope that helps!
Hi! Thanks! hmm not sure, I think it's a good idea to contact a professor or phd about your idea for a pre-proposal and get some feedbakc, but don't expect to get help with writing the preproposal
@@itsdavidalonso Thank you so much! Indeed it did! and I will let you know if I secure the scholarship! will you please let me know when are they going to tell me the final result if I am accepted or not.. and how can we prepare for interviews?
@@angeljacob4620 I can't remember when I was notified, but I had the interview sometime in Feb/March. For the interview you should make sure to be very comfortable answering questions about the preproposal and why you want the ESOP.
Hello, I love your channel. Could you please tell me the opportunities available for international students studying in Switzerland? E.g., Do they need a separate visa for working part-time during their studies? I'm also planning to pursue my Masters in Robotics. Therefore, I wanted to know the job opportunities after Masters in Switzerland. Thank you for everything!
Thank you so much Prakriti for the kind words! 😊 That's a really good question and is honestly a great idea for a video where I can interview some of my Indian or non-EU friends. From personal experience I cannot give you the best answer (since I'm EU) other than the following facts: - It's true that it's generally easier to find jobs for EU students than for non-EU. - That said, it's totally doable for non-EU students to find part-time jobs, internships, and permanent jobs after the Masters here, I have many examples of such people that I could try to get on the channel
that's a good idea! In fact I was planning to make a video about the CV that got me into ETH soon! I hope I can keep up with all the video ideas while doing my thesis :)
@@abadjoke6169 If I find time it's definitely at the top of my list! But check the video description to download my CV for free! Then you'll see how I did it
I would try their emails/linkedin, but if they don't reply (which is pretty common), I'd try to reach out to PhD's in the lab. They can then pitch you to their profs.
@@itsdavidalonso thanks a lot David. I'll be very grateful if you get to them for me . Please I'm going in for a PhD in a food science related program. I let a mail to 2 head of laboratories but no reply till now
Great video, but I am pretty sure David himself is half a genius (or super hardworker) considering that he got so many scholarships in highschool and uniIt is exactly why he says "if you are an excellent student..."
Hey david. Thank you so much for the video.
I do have few question I found no answer anywhere. First one is, In case of US or CA, we have to manage a professor (who would like us to get admitted into their college and sometimes it opens the door for scholarship too) and then we have to apply centrally. Is it the same case for switzerland? And does managing any professor (if there is any such culture in swiss) somehow improve my chance of getting admitted into the college like in the USA or CA.And as you said, there is an interview for ESOP, does the interviewer somehow is the one of which my given topic would match?
Secondly, from your experience (also you've already made a Q&A video about that but there were only 4 people and with very high gpa ofc), what is the weight of GPA in case of getting and ESOP? For example, if I'm from a lesser known uni with an average GPA but if I can propose a good thesis proposal, is there any chance that I might gate accepted?
Finally, (I'm so sorry for taking your time) what would you call a good thesis proposal? For example, if my thesis proposal is something an ETH professor have worked with and I want to continue into that field, is it a good proposal or is it something that doesn't have to fit into any professor's previous work domain but can be a very hot topic at that time?
Thank you in advance.
Let me know if you have any questions or want me to share more of my application documents for ETH/ESOP!
You can download my Pre-Proposal + LaTeX template here: itsdavidalonso.gumroad.com/l/preproposal/youtube
It it great you are putting all of this out of any one interested to see, I would be nice if you could share the latex template.
pd: I subscribe to the chanel and I am curious about what else you'll share about ETH
@@jsduenass gracias! Here's the link to the template I just made www.overleaf.com/read/yxsmqpkhhyyv
Feel free to duplicate and make it your own!
Hi!
Just wanted to ask, is TOEFL/IELTS necessary for ESOP application, or maybe they have their own test at ETH? Thanks in advance 😁
@@ljubicastafoka5814 Yes, the TOEFL/IELTS is required if you don't have an education in an english speaking country
Hi David, I have a question, Do you have to send some documents for post mail?? Or all the applicaton is on-line?
Hello,If we do not meet this 'Very good result in Bachelor’s degree programme (top 10% of Bachelor’s degree programme = grade A)' criterion, can we not apply to the program? Do we have no chance of acceptance.I would be very happy if you answer))
Dear David , you're an amazing person, how you could balance between your school life and also being such a sociable person doing hobbies you love, actually I'm 23 years old I had just finished studying pharmacy at my country, I've the passion to try to get my scholarship at ETHz , I hope to we could meet.
please if you don't mind to ask you, Is it a must to have a specific level in german language when I apply to the ESOP, and you said that the date to start to apply my documents is 15 november i guess, so what could i do untill this date to further boost my chance to be choosen.
@@mohamedismael1847 Of course I don't mind! Feel free to comment on any video of mine! There are absolutely no German requirements for the ESOP. I'm not sure if 15 November is the deadline this year, so I would double check on their website. Until then, without getting too specific, I would try to do some research or take on any other endeavor you are passionate about that is challenging and impactful, preferrably something that connects with research done at ETH.
❤ Your words mean a lot! I am, like many people, just striving to be the best version of myself. I am fuelled by passion that just lives in me and I think grade-wise it also helps that I am competitive and love to learn
@@itsdavidalonso thanks for the advice I'll try to do that, actually i have a little background about computational biology which the subject of master i have the passion to apply for, so to get the scholarship they need a familiar peson with that subject, and Ia the ESOP cover the money from the first year of master or should I pay for the first year?
@@mohamedismael1847 you don't necessarily need to propose a project that is being done at ETH, but if you can tie it to the lab of someone at ETH it helps because they might be reviewing your application. The ESOP will cover all tuition fees and the semester installments of ~12k will start getting payed in the 1st sem of the 1st year. I hope that's clear
hey David, I saw that you don't have a timetable, did they ask for it before? or is it something new that they just added for this year?
Your video is very informative! Thank you for sharing your insights.
I wanted to ask, as you mentioned in the video, that there are multiple sub-sections to cover. However, in your template, you have written it under one document as a passage. So, isn't it necessary to outline the timeline that shows our plan weekly for the project? And don't we need to use multiple subheadings to organize the sections?
Hi David! Thank you very much for sharing this. I would like to know about the application fee, is there other application fee we should pay apart the one we paid for the MSc application ? thank you!!!
Hey David,
Extremely helpful video! Especially since there's nothing on the internet about ESOP.
I'm writing a proposal for physics so it involves a significant jargon. I cannot explain everything in 500 words while also explaining my topic. Who is my target audience for the pre-proposal and how do you recommend mitigating this?
awesome template, thanks for sharing
I have a little bit query about dates application starts from 1November to 15 December both for pursuing admission in master programs and ESOP and study starts bt next year in the beginning of September.
In this November i only complete my seven smester can i apply for ETH otherwise I have worry about missing my one year .
Thank you David for sharing this amazing information. I browse in the internet that living in Switzerland is expensive. I want to ask, is it possible to live and study in Switzerland only with 12,000 chf from ESOP scholarship?
Thank you for sharing. Great tips!
Thanks for watching!!!
Hi David! When designing your pre-proposal, would you say it is more important to write about something you are familiar with and have previous experience with or on something relevant to the research of the department you are applying to?
that's a tough one, it depends to what degree you are famiiliar with the topic and it is relevant. I'd try to find something that touches both, and would prioritize your experience. In the end you want to show research maturity
@@itsdavidalonso Thank you! Your videos are super helpful!
Hey there David! Great video! I think I found the template you used on overleaf, but I'm having issues on aligning the eth logo to the personal data section just like you did. Do you have the code you used for this specific part? I'm finding it very hard being a beginner. I would be very grateful!
Hi Lorenzo, did I not do the same type of alignment? Maybe look in the commented out code. I think if you play around with /vspace{-+xcm} you'll get it working
@@itsdavidalonso yeah, sorted it out. Thank you though!
Thanks a lot, you motivated me to apply. Is it necessary to accept your admission to ETHZ in order to be considered for ESOP funding?
Hi Ernesto! Thank you! That's the whole idea behind the video, to encourage you to apply. I don't fully understand your question, what do you mean by accept your admission to ETHZ? You have to be admitted to ETH and attend the ETH master to be able to receive the scholarship. So you have to follow the normal ETH application as well as the additional ESOP application
@@itsdavidalonso Sorry, I didn't explain myself. By "accepting your admission to ETHZ" I mean registering for the program after receiving an acceptance letter. Admission results come before ESOP results. Once accepted, some universities require students to confirm that they will indeed enroll in their program in order to be eligible for funding, I wonder if this is the case at ETHZ. Rephrasing my question: are ESOP results independent of whether or not one has registered in ETH by the time ESOP decisions are made?
Prospective ESOP recipients will likely have acceptance letters from other top unis besides ETH and funding could be a mayor factor in making the final decision. In your case, once you received your acceptance letter from ETH, did you wait for the ESOP result before registering for the program?
@@ernestosanchez6231 Ahhh now I understand! Yes, I only registered after obtaining the ESOP, since as you mention it had a high impact on my final decision
i can use any template for the pre proposal or is there any specific? moreover, is there any word limit?
yes you can, it should be a page long excluding references
I need to know how to apply sir
It's humble request to do complete video 😕😕
Also is it necessary we write the pre-poposal based on a topic we have already done a few projects on or can it be something totally new?
It can be anything, but as the video mentions I'd recommend you choose something you have expertise in. You don't have to stick to it once you start your masters
@@itsdavidalonso understood, thanks!
@@itsdavidalonso So you're saying the master's thesis can also deal with a different topic than this pre-proposal, right? The pre-proposal you're talking about is really just to show them, that you can plan a research project and get the scholarship?
Hi, any reason why you chose to apply to ESOP as opposed to the direct doctorate programme?
Hi Carina, do you mean a PhD? That would have been a bit hard given my little research experience at that point, plus I love being a student so I thought doing a Masters would be really fun. The masters has given me a taste of what doing research in my field is like, which is invaluable when deciding whether to do a phd or not. Before my masters I wasn't really sure about a phd
Thanks david for such a elucid video. i wanted to know particular to your masters. Can aerospace Bachelors guys apply for robotics control masters.
Yes! I was in that position
Hi, thanks a lot for this video. I know ETHZ is really competitive. How important are academis grades on ETHZ admission and ESOP? I have 3.6/4 average in Polytechnique Montréal (Canada) in bachelor mechanical engineering and I'm thinking about applying to ETH for master and shoot my shot for ESOP at the same time. Is it realistic or I have to be in top 5% grade? Also, on another subject, the foundation that gives the ESOP has a goal of retaining students to Switzerland after their studies I guess? Therefore, is it worth trying to show I would integrated to Swiss society easily or no? For exemple French is my first language and I'm currently learning German, is it a plus or it's irrelevant? Thanks a lot
The minimal grade average for applying to the scholarship is 5.4/6 i think
with low grades there is no chance?
@@deanvermee
Hello, and thank you for your explanation! I have one and probably dumb question. The most important prerequisite is to have very good grades in a Bachelor's degree programme, but do I need to have a bachelor's degree when I'm applying? For example: I'm a student at the university of Padua in Italy, currently at the second year and at the end of september I will begin my third year. The applications for international students will probably begin in november and end in december, so during that period I won't have my bachelor's degree. Can I still apply? If the answer is yes, what happens if my grades go down during the third year?
Hey Davena, not a dumb question at all :) You can still apply, as I know several cases of people who were accepted while still finishing the last half of their last BSc year. And the acceptance is unconditional (as long as you pass everything and graduate ofc). Hope that helps!
@@itsdavidalonso Thank you very much for the quick answer!
Hi! Informative video. Is it better to approach an ETH professor to get their help in writing a pre-proposal?
Hi! Thanks! hmm not sure, I think it's a good idea to contact a professor or phd about your idea for a pre-proposal and get some feedbakc, but don't expect to get help with writing the preproposal
@@itsdavidalonso okay! thanks for the reply. Looking forward to more informative videos from you!
@@samruddhianikhindi7360 Thanks for the encouragement and glad to be of any help!
Hi! I applied for ESOP, now waiting for the results!
All the best! Please keep me posted on the results, hope this video helped!
@@itsdavidalonso Thank you so much! Indeed it did! and I will let you know if I secure the scholarship! will you please let me know when are they going to tell me the final result if I am accepted or not.. and how can we prepare for interviews?
@@angeljacob4620 I can't remember when I was notified, but I had the interview sometime in Feb/March. For the interview you should make sure to be very comfortable answering questions about the preproposal and why you want the ESOP.
@@itsdavidalonso thankyou so much ☺️
Hello, I love your channel. Could you please tell me the opportunities available for international students studying in Switzerland? E.g., Do they need a separate visa for working part-time during their studies? I'm also planning to pursue my Masters in Robotics. Therefore, I wanted to know the job opportunities after Masters in Switzerland. Thank you for everything!
Thank you so much Prakriti for the kind words! 😊 That's a really good question and is honestly a great idea for a video where I can interview some of my Indian or non-EU friends. From personal experience I cannot give you the best answer (since I'm EU) other than the following facts:
- It's true that it's generally easier to find jobs for EU students than for non-EU.
- That said, it's totally doable for non-EU students to find part-time jobs, internships, and permanent jobs after the Masters here, I have many examples of such people that I could try to get on the channel
@@itsdavidalonso Thanks a lot! 😃
Is there an age limit?
Would you consider making a video on how to structure one's CV while applying to colleges for masters?
that's a good idea! In fact I was planning to make a video about the CV that got me into ETH soon! I hope I can keep up with all the video ideas while doing my thesis :)
@@itsdavidalonso please do this! would help a LOT :)
@@abadjoke6169 If I find time it's definitely at the top of my list! But check the video description to download my CV for free! Then you'll see how I did it
Hello please how can I get in touch with lecturers so as to find an academic supervisor for my PhD?
I would try their emails/linkedin, but if they don't reply (which is pretty common), I'd try to reach out to PhD's in the lab. They can then pitch you to their profs.
@@itsdavidalonso thanks a lot David. I'll be very grateful if you get to them for me . Please I'm going in for a PhD in a food science related program.
I let a mail to 2 head of laboratories but no reply till now
@@itsdavidalonso thanks again for your great job. May I have your email address please??
How long did it take you to write your pre-proposal?
I'd say if I was working full-time on it maybe 2 days including reviews from people. But this is because I had written similar essays in the past
Hai thank you for your infermation 🙏
Thanks for watching!
Is there an application fee to apply?
Not when I applied! I doubt it'll be anything significant if they changed it
Its 50 chf for EU and 150 for Non EU for masters on website But I am confused whether thats appliacable to ESOP as well.
bro, you gave me hope :'v
That's what I'm here for!
Great video, but I am pretty sure David himself is half a genius (or super hardworker) considering that he got so many scholarships in highschool and uniIt is exactly why he says "if you are an excellent student..."