Your first review was great! You were able to point out a lot of points that professional reviewers always miss by sticking to what everyone else does review about the pack. If your are going to continue reviewing product I suggest you use the same formula that you use with this review. Talk about what is important to "You" and not the selling points of the manufacturers. Job's a Gooden. thank you for your review.
Tried both the Osprey and the Gregory at my local REI after being sized by a store helper and, for me, the Gregory felt way more comfortable. Im a stocky guy, so the Osprey hip belts dug hard into my hips and it hurt after having it on after a minute. It was a relief to take it off. I put the Gregory on second and it was night and day. Sooo much more comfortable to me.
Although this is considered heavy pack now a days, I just completed a thru hike of the OT and was very comfortable carrying up to 3.5 liters of water in dry stretch. Additional weight is hardly noticed. Had to carry 7 days of food with no resupply. I do not have lightest of gear, but Gregory 65 rock solid. Have 350 miles on it now. A good pack.
What is the OT? I assume you meant the AT? Also, how is it holding up, and is it still comfortable when carrying a load over many miles, on uneven terrain, over an extended period of time? Did you ever use one of those lightweight two pound packs? If so, I would be interested to hear your thoughts on how they compare., performance, and comfort wise.
@@ralphsimons2913 OK...We have the FT here in Florida. I guess most know the AT, CDT, and PCT. So, what about my question on the pack? How is it holding up, and is it still comfortable when carrying a load over many miles, on uneven terrain, over an extended period of time? Did you ever use one of those lightweight two pound packs? If so, I would be interested to hear your thoughts on how they compare., performance, and comfort wise.
Curtis, this has to be the best gear review i've seen. keep it up. best wishes. i'm just getting into backpacking. gave up whitewater kayaking and took up rock climbing, rappelling, and canyoneering. i have a mil-surp delta 80 that i wouldn't trade for the world, but looking for something lighter and am considering this, and the klymit motion 60. the klymit has an interesting air suspension that seems like it would be really comfy, i just wish it was a 70l. thoughts anyone?
So there are some who claim that the paradox is that a heavy (5 pound) 50 to 75 liter backpack, like the Gregory Baltoro, or the Osprey Atmos, with an advanced adjustable suspension, independently moving hip belts, extra padding, an anatomically designed breathable mesh back panel, and other similar features, is actually more comfortable, than a lightweight (2 pound) backpack of similar size. I am leery of these claims, as it seems counterintuitive, and illogical, but as an owner of some highly rated 2 pound backpacks like the Gossamer Gear Mariposa 60, I am aware that the lighter backpacks are not that comfortable, especially when carrying a moderate load. Someone else recently suggested that I try the Gregory Baltoro, and I have heard similar suggestions refarding the Osprey Atmos, which led me to watch your video review. I do also own a Kelty Redwing 50, and a Gregory Stout 45, which I like because they both have the adjustable suspensions, which allow me to pretty much disregard the typical measurement between the C7 vertebrae to the hip bone, which never seems to work right anyway, because I always end up with a non adjustable pack that does not ride exactly where I want it to, and I am irritated the whole time I am carrying the pack. In addition to more comfort, I also wanted an adjustable backpack that was at least 60 liters, so maybe the Baltoro will fit the bill. Just to clarify, is the suspension adjustable on the Gregory Baltoro 65? Any other recommendations appreciated, and I definitely would welcome a discounted source for the backpack! Thanks!
There's very limited adjustment on the suspension front. The shoulder straps have 2 pre-set locations (mine are on the upper) and there's a lumbar pad on the lower back that can be moved around but that's pretty much it. The independently moving belts and straps kind of makes up for the lack of adjustment, but that's also why the pack is offered in 3 sizes. As for discounted sources, I don't have any off hand (I wish I did). REI usually discounts this pack around Black Friday if you're in no rush.
@@CurtisStuart27 Thanks Curtis. From what I am seeing, it looks like the packs in this size and weight range, that receive the most praise, and the best reviews, are the Gregory Baltoro 65/75, Osprey Aether 70, Osprey Atmos AG 65, the Arc'Teryx Bora 63, and to a lesser extent the Kelty Coyote 65. All are in the four to five pound weight range, but seem to have great features, and comfortable heavy load carrying performance, along with varying degrees of adjustability. Ideally, I would like to use the pack that I can dial in to fir me perfectly, and that carries a heavy load the most comfortably. Have you ever tried any of the other packs that I mentioned? Thanks!
I owned the Baltoro. Returned it and bought the Mariposa. I should add that I still own my old Gregory Forester and the Hyperlight Southwest 2400. The Baltoro hip belt created all kinds of weird pressure and discomfort that my old Forester never created. Not sure why but on a 4 day trip I tested it on it was excruciating. A word on the Mariposa. Awesome pack!!! Big outside mesh pocket is super functional. Ability to hold to smart water bottles within easy reach, larger hip belt pockets (how can Gregory build a pack with hip pockets that you can't stuff a cell phone in???) and love the large side pocket for tent poles and my Helinox. Sorry, love my Foerster, absolutely hated the Baltoro. The Hyperlight is great for lighter trips but overall, the Mariposa rocks.
@@wellseasonedhiker I purchased the Gregory Baltoro, and tried it on, could not get a good fit, or purchase on my hips, returned it immediately. Purchased the long torso length Arcteryx Bora 63 from REI at a great price around $250.00, took out on one trip, hip belt buckle bro ke, same bad fit issues as the Baltoro, returned in person to REI, refunded in full no questions asked! While at REI, I tried on the Osprey Aether 65, with weight inside the pack, and the experienced rep. at the store adjusted the suspension perfectly! Pack fits great. Meanwhile REI ran a sale recently, so I picked up another Arcteryx Bora 63, in the regular torso length for $225.00 delivered. Stopped by REI, and my buddy helped me to dial in a perfect fit with the adjustable suspension. He had never seen an Arcteryx Bora 63, as they dont stock them in many stores, so he was really interested to see all the features. Anyway, it looks like I will be testing both the Aether 65 and the Bora 63, while my Mariposa 60 gathers dust. Both seem much better than the Baltoro. One thing about REI...you can find good deals, just need to watch the sales, and if you join, you will get discounts, gift cards, and at least one year to return an item. In my experience they are friendly, professional, and provide great service.
I got this one over Osprey Eather but I feel Baltoro has more finished futures and kid of top it up Osprey models. I carry my camera ICU inside and that front big zipper was main reason I went for this model. Lots of attachment straps makes tripod cary very safly. It will be my weekend/2-3 nights stay backpack. I went for couple trips and I love it ☺️ maybe straps were bit cutting into my shoulders but maybe because I am skinny person... need more muscle on that bones 😅😅
It is a very comfortable pack but I agree that the hip belt pockets are small and won't fit a cell phone. I could fit my Hero 7, but it's already waterproof.
Yeah man I'm about your same height and weight and figured I would be a small, but found out I'm a medium when I got measured at REI. We also found out my buddy who is 6' 1" is a small. And since its easy and free at REI, you might as well.
They've made some pretty lame changes to the Baltoro line for 2022. They no longer include the water bladder holder/summit pack, it's now sold separately for $39.95. They also no longer include a raincover, also sold separately for $39.95. Smaller things like removing the waterproof hip pocket and instead going with 2 standard ones, though they are now big enough to fit a modern phone. I guess a modern phone sized pocket plus waterproof was too much to ask. Overall it's still a good pack, but the value has gone way down because instead of $320 for the 65L, you'd now have to spend $400 to get the same features (an extra $39.95 x 2).
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Great review!! Super happy to have come across it.. Very genuine.. much appreciated😊👍
I think you did a great, informative, funny review. Keep it up.
Your first review was great! You were able to point out a lot of points that professional reviewers always miss by sticking to what everyone else does review about the pack. If your are going to continue reviewing product I suggest you use the same formula that you use with this review. Talk about what is important to "You" and not the selling points of the manufacturers. Job's a Gooden. thank you for your review.
Thanks for putting this video up! I just ordered mine and can’t wait!!!
Loved the review. Alot of effort went into this. You sir just earned my subscription.
Tried both the Osprey and the Gregory at my local REI after being sized by a store helper and, for me, the Gregory felt way more comfortable. Im a stocky guy, so the Osprey hip belts dug hard into my hips and it hurt after having it on after a minute. It was a relief to take it off. I put the Gregory on second and it was night and day. Sooo much more comfortable to me.
How is it holding up, and working for you?
Is it comfortable with a load, and on longer trips?
Appreciate the review. Actually just bought this same bag.
Although this is considered heavy pack now a days, I just completed a thru hike of the OT and was very comfortable carrying up to 3.5 liters of water in dry stretch. Additional weight is hardly noticed. Had to carry 7 days of food with no resupply. I do not have lightest of gear, but Gregory 65 rock solid. Have 350 miles on it now. A good pack.
What is the OT? I assume you meant the AT?
Also, how is it holding up, and is it still comfortable when carrying a load over many miles, on uneven terrain, over an extended period of time?
Did you ever use one of those lightweight two pound packs?
If so, I would be interested to hear your thoughts on how they compare., performance, and comfort wise.
@@msilverhammer It is the Ouachit trail in Oklahoma and Arkansas. 222.5 miles in length one way.
It has shelters. Really nice ones the first half of trail. Kind of like a mini AT. I've been on both.
@@ralphsimons2913 OK...We have the FT here in Florida.
I guess most know the AT, CDT, and PCT.
So, what about my question on the pack?
How is it holding up, and is it still comfortable when carrying a load over many miles, on uneven terrain, over an extended period of time?
Did you ever use one of those lightweight two pound packs?
If so, I would be interested to hear your thoughts on how they compare., performance, and comfort wise.
@@msilverhammer You don't have to worry about the Baltoro. Pack is tough as nails.
Curtis, this has to be the best gear review i've seen. keep it up. best wishes.
i'm just getting into backpacking. gave up whitewater kayaking and took up rock climbing, rappelling, and canyoneering. i have a mil-surp delta 80 that i wouldn't trade for the world, but looking for something lighter and am considering this, and the klymit motion 60. the klymit has an interesting air suspension that seems like it would be really comfy, i just wish it was a 70l. thoughts anyone?
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So there are some who claim that the paradox is that a heavy (5 pound) 50 to 75 liter backpack, like the Gregory Baltoro, or the Osprey Atmos, with an advanced adjustable suspension, independently moving hip belts, extra padding, an anatomically designed breathable mesh back panel, and other similar features, is actually more comfortable, than a lightweight (2 pound) backpack of similar size.
I am leery of these claims, as it seems counterintuitive, and illogical, but as an owner of some highly rated 2 pound backpacks like the Gossamer Gear Mariposa 60, I am aware that the lighter backpacks are not that comfortable, especially when carrying a moderate load.
Someone else recently suggested that I try the Gregory Baltoro, and I have heard similar suggestions refarding the Osprey Atmos, which led me to watch your video review.
I do also own a Kelty Redwing 50, and a Gregory Stout 45, which I like because they both have the adjustable suspensions, which allow me to pretty much disregard the typical measurement between the C7 vertebrae to the hip bone, which never seems to work right anyway, because I always end up with a non adjustable pack that does not ride exactly where I want it to, and I am irritated the whole time I am carrying the pack.
In addition to more comfort, I also wanted an adjustable backpack that was at least 60 liters, so maybe the Baltoro will fit the bill.
Just to clarify, is the suspension adjustable on the Gregory Baltoro 65?
Any other recommendations appreciated, and I definitely would welcome a discounted source for the backpack!
Thanks!
There's very limited adjustment on the suspension front. The shoulder straps have 2 pre-set locations (mine are on the upper) and there's a lumbar pad on the lower back that can be moved around but that's pretty much it. The independently moving belts and straps kind of makes up for the lack of adjustment, but that's also why the pack is offered in 3 sizes.
As for discounted sources, I don't have any off hand (I wish I did). REI usually discounts this pack around Black Friday if you're in no rush.
@@CurtisStuart27 Thanks Curtis.
From what I am seeing, it looks like the packs in this size and weight range, that receive the most praise, and the best reviews, are the Gregory Baltoro 65/75, Osprey Aether 70, Osprey Atmos AG 65, the Arc'Teryx Bora 63, and to a lesser extent the Kelty Coyote 65.
All are in the four to five pound weight range, but seem to have great features, and comfortable heavy load carrying performance, along with varying degrees of adjustability.
Ideally, I would like to use the pack that I can dial in to fir me perfectly, and that carries a heavy load the most comfortably.
Have you ever tried any of the other packs that I mentioned?
Thanks!
I owned the Baltoro. Returned it and bought the Mariposa. I should add that I still own my old Gregory Forester and the Hyperlight Southwest 2400.
The Baltoro hip belt created all kinds of weird pressure and discomfort that my old Forester never created. Not sure why but on a 4 day trip I tested it on it was excruciating.
A word on the Mariposa. Awesome pack!!! Big outside mesh pocket is super functional. Ability to hold to smart water bottles within easy reach, larger hip belt pockets (how can Gregory build a pack with hip pockets that you can't stuff a cell phone in???) and love the large side pocket for tent poles and my Helinox.
Sorry, love my Foerster, absolutely hated the Baltoro. The Hyperlight is great for lighter trips but overall, the Mariposa rocks.
@@wellseasonedhiker I purchased the Gregory Baltoro, and tried it on, could not get a good fit, or purchase on my hips, returned it immediately.
Purchased the long torso length Arcteryx Bora 63 from REI at a great price around $250.00, took out on one trip, hip belt buckle bro ke, same bad fit issues as the Baltoro, returned in person to REI, refunded in full no questions asked!
While at REI, I tried on the Osprey Aether 65, with weight inside the pack, and the experienced rep. at the store adjusted the suspension perfectly!
Pack fits great.
Meanwhile REI ran a sale recently, so I picked up another Arcteryx Bora 63, in the regular torso length for $225.00 delivered.
Stopped by REI, and my buddy helped me to dial in a perfect fit with the adjustable suspension.
He had never seen an Arcteryx Bora 63, as they dont stock them in many stores, so he was really interested to see all the features.
Anyway, it looks like I will be testing both the Aether 65 and the Bora 63, while my Mariposa 60 gathers dust.
Both seem much better than the Baltoro.
One thing about REI...you can find good deals, just need to watch the sales, and if you join, you will get discounts, gift cards, and at least one year to return an item.
In my experience they are friendly, professional, and provide great service.
@@msilverhammer agree on REI. Just wish they had a broader selection but their service and return policy is top notch.
I got this one over Osprey Eather but I feel Baltoro has more finished futures and kid of top it up Osprey models. I carry my camera ICU inside and that front big zipper was main reason I went for this model. Lots of attachment straps makes tripod cary very safly. It will be my weekend/2-3 nights stay backpack. I went for couple trips and I love it ☺️ maybe straps were bit cutting into my shoulders but maybe because I am skinny person... need more muscle on that bones 😅😅
It is a very comfortable pack but I agree that the hip belt pockets are small and won't fit a cell phone. I could fit my Hero 7, but it's already waterproof.
Awesome review. I'm 5'9" and weigh about 145-150 lbs. What size would you recommend?
It's all about torso length. I'd assume you're a small, but go to your local REI or other outdoors store and they can measure you and help you out
Yeah man I'm about your same height and weight and figured I would be a small, but found out I'm a medium when I got measured at REI. We also found out my buddy who is 6' 1" is a small. And since its easy and free at REI, you might as well.
They've made some pretty lame changes to the Baltoro line for 2022. They no longer include the water bladder holder/summit pack, it's now sold separately for $39.95. They also no longer include a raincover, also sold separately for $39.95. Smaller things like removing the waterproof hip pocket and instead going with 2 standard ones, though they are now big enough to fit a modern phone. I guess a modern phone sized pocket plus waterproof was too much to ask. Overall it's still a good pack, but the value has gone way down because instead of $320 for the 65L, you'd now have to spend $400 to get the same features (an extra $39.95 x 2).
Hello, how tall are you?
11:10 haha, a win for my crappy iphone se
awesome review, dude. But please do something about the audio quality, it sounds like a early youtube video from 2007.
Working on it! Thanks.
Also the lightning, but this is an excellent review for a new youtuber. Tons of info.
Thanks for the review, i bought pack i hope i enjoy it.