The things we didn’t get to see in the new generation movie
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
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we explore the concepts and ideas we didn’t see in the new generation movie
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I love the idea of Pip being more antagonistic at the start. It would be a lot more interesting than her cardboard Pop persona in the movie.
I wish the style of G5 was more like the concept art. I would have like the rustic painted look better than the budget friendly animation we ended up getting.
Ironic how the painted look would look better when transferring to a lower budget than the "budget-friendly" look does
No extra fancy rendering needed when all the details are painted on Arcane style
I can't confirm, but I think it was mentioned somewhere long after A New Generation had aired was that the main changes was due to some kind of animation studio licensing issue. The G5 team wasn't really allowed to use any G4 characters without the previous animation studio permission.
Hasbro owns MLP, so I don't think that would be the reason.
@@anonamouse5917believe it or not , they don’t have the rights to G4
@@hwebsite4720So, G5 isn’t canon to G4? Heck yeah!
Do they just lose the rights every time they make a new season???
@@hwebsite4720 Who doesn't have the rights to G4?
I'm super disappointed by how many beautiful pieces of concept art and creativity got scrapped, it ends up really feeling really washed clean and sterile looking compared to all the different creative work.
Complexity = $$$$.
They had a budget and had to work within it.
I think pipp old design was based of marylin monroe
Yeah i think so too, thats what i thought immediately looking at it
We could have gotten Marylin Moroe ToT
Mare-lyn Monroe.
11:42 My theory is that maybe the rainbow factory was also just a weather factory. But in this version since the Pegasi still controlled the weather, I’m assuming the earth ponies didn’t want any Pegasi near their town so they had to make the weather themselves.
I also don’t really like Pip being more of an antagonist character. It could’ve worked though if she was the more antagonist version of sprout where she ends up finding out she was wrong to stop them in the end just like what happened with sprout in the movie.
Just some thoughts
Now I’m curious what a movie with that OTHER script would look like
How could you call the concept designs boring? 😧 they’re amazing and so beautiful also I prefer Sunny’s alicorn design in the concept art than her final none official alicorn design in the movie ❤
The movie had a lot of potential and the design were actually amazing looking at it
I can’t believe they changed ponies holding things with their mouths instead of hooves, that’s such a huge gripe I have with g5
I personally think the g5 will be MUCH better if the idea of the movie was LITERALLY the series. I mean the conflict of the races in a series like the FiM will be so cool
The animatic of the Zephyr heights escape scene wasn't "scrapped," as it was never meant to be part of the movie. IIRC' the original upload by its creator said ( paraphasing) that rather, It was a way for him to experiment with and demonstrate his ability to work with the show's components (setting, plot outline, etc…) as well as serve as a proof of concept of sorts.
8:41.This old mare reminds me of the Swiss Gatekeeper from that James Bond movie "Goldfinger". I'd really like to see the unused ponies be recycled into major plot characters in the next Tell Your Tale special.
seeing all the scrapped concept arts are so sad, because u realize how much potential there couldve been from designs to story :(( wished that budgets werent so tight since they really limit the creativity that couldve been presented to its audience
6:16 gave me flashbacks- can’t believe that was an ACTUAL idea😭😭
Rainbow dash also wanted a legacy😭
I'm honestly a sucker for hippie Izzy. Honestly, I really would've loved for the film to have a more 1960s-1970s feel. Some of the other early designs kind of gave that feeling.
1. I really do like the concept designs for the Mane Five, and even for Sprout. Personally, I find Zipp's design to be a lot better than her final design, and the same goes for Izzy. The latter of which would have hinted at the more obvious connection with Vylette in the comics and Tell Your Tale, if we had gotten it.
And while I can definitely agree that Sunny's original design would have been a lot more unique (and also a lot more moé), it doesn't exactly fit the character we got for her in the movie. In fact, I'd say it fits Izzy a lot more. Also, it reminds me a lot of Edward Wong from Cowboy Bebop.
Speaking of lookalikes, I have to say that Sprout's final design works better in general. He looks a lot less gruff than his original design, yes, but that gruffness makes him a lot more predictably villainous, and doesn't work with how Phyliss and the citizens were ultimately what built him up, and not strictly his own ego. Plus, the final design is appealing to me because of its resemblance to Biff Tannen, which I appreciate mainly because of just how similar his situation is to Biff, and both that *and* why he actually became a villain is why I think Sprout works really well.
2. I would say that Izzy was a lot more exaggerated in her zaniness in Make Your Mark (and especially Tell Your Tale), but as grounded as Izzy was in the film in contrast to her later version (Which I love), don't forget that she was still rather zany. Remember how playful she was when she was introduced, and not taking her being perceived as an invader all that seriously? And also, when she knocked down a tree by drilling it with her horn.
3. The version we could have gotten of Danger, Danger isn't all too different from the final version. Only thing we really lost was another verse, and a fun additional chorus. However, you missed the cut version of Fit Right In, which is thankfully available on the film's soundtrack album...sort of. The extended version adds some more lyrics which make the song feel a bit more complete, mainly during Sunny's solo and the Izzy rap part, which had more lyrics to them. Also, while I feel that having Sprout don his dictator outfit in the original Danger, Danger doesn't work that well, I do like Hitch as a more traditional femboy as was in the Fit Right In animatic.
4. Lastly, I feel that most people don't get what was being gone for when it came to Pipp. Sure, Make Your Mark and Tell Your Tale would definitely have you believe that she was always a well-intentioned character... but she really wasn't. She did turn good by the time we got to the campfire scene, but before that, she was very much an antagonist. Not the violent kind that we could have gotten in the original script for the film, but still very much antagonistic through her excessive ego and pandering to her Pippsqueaks.
People say that she was hollow, and yeah she didn't have the same kind of development that the other members did (Especially Sunny and Hitch), but I feel that hollowness was less of an oversight and more intentional to make her unlikeable. Same with Queen Haven.
I'm so disappointed. All these scrapped ideas, whose idea was it to scrap them? They ruined their fanbase basically
6:39 the home on the right reminds me of Rapunzel’s h9me from tangled 😅
I would've preferred Izzie being more like a Treehugger than a Pinkie Pie simply because I don't like how you can so clearly tell which ponies of the main group are supposed to replace the ones from the main six, and they even end up getting a baby dragon too. Let them be their own characters instead of rehashes of old ones!
There is so much lost potential to G5 starting with the movie and continuous until today. It’s sad! But hopefully G6 will be better! It’s just a question of time.
4:14 i think i actually prefer this design of izzys to the one we got
5:33 i quite like sunnys pigtails, it adds to her character
6:26 yoooo they couldve added that into zeyphyr heights, it wouldve been so cool, i guess it would look a lil out of place
6:41 it seems like they sort of tested mirroring sunnys aesthetic with pre-alicorn twilight
6:53 i wonder if this is a scrapped location of where they found one of the unity crystals
8:51 this is sort of mirroring twilights transformation in s2
10:59 i WISH they kept that in, it feels so wierd seeing then grab things with thier hooves, also seeing timberwolves and parasprites again wouldve been AWSOME
11:23 i guess its still a kids movie after all, still sad they cut alot of really good concepts, but i guess thats up to the comics to fill the gaps
12:10 yoo that weather machine looks epic!
hey SugarFlake would u be able to give me the sauces of where u found the concept art?? id like to do some digging
Yeah she is like Pinkie.. Zip is RD.. Pip is Rarity.. There are mane 6 like next next gen. Although some have combo of other main 6 in one.
There is Poisey that is Fluttershy look a like, but going back to watch all gen mlp I see now was original.. they brought her back to life! Also, that mane 6 was indeed from the other gen redesigned, as well Terik n Grogar was from the other gen too, bringing lore new meaning!
Thank you for sharing :) I knew of some info like the main character designs, and one animatic. The rest of it was interesting indeed, it's sad we didn't ever see it!.
Sprout looks like Donald Trump mixed with Richy Rich
This is really interesting, I love some of the initial ideas they had. Thanks for putting this vid together to showcase this stuff, It's Awesome to see what G5 could have been. You mentioned there was a screening of the first version, just curious if any of this stuff is still available online?
All the concept art looks amazing!👍
🤩And SO colorful!
Yes, I would like to see more G5 concept videos.
2:56
Im so pissed now bc that design looks amazing
Literally love that
Hey sugarflake i think you should do a speculation/theory video an Equestria Girls Where are They Now video called: Trixie and The Illusions (The Band from Rainbow Rocks) What Happened to Trixie Lullamoon Faiusha Blush and Lavender Lace?
Sunnys og design would've actually have made me like her
If the rainbow factory was added, little kids who got exposed to the creepypasta would either get re-traumatized or super excited (the horror fans) and scare their friends talking about it lol
This is a personal opinion, despite I like the fourth generation of mlp better (with twilight sparkle and whatnot). One thing that did surprise me in the G5 movie was how apple Jack was removed. But I have to give them props for their diversity in gender. G5 definitely has more male ponies than G4, which is kind of refreshing to see especially when they using it to help balance out the always large amount of girl ponies.
So apparently Discovery Family holds the tv rights to all of the characters, locations, and creatures from G4. And if G5's team wanted feature Twilight, Canterlot etc. Fees had to be paid to Discovery Family; which is why G5 and G4 seem to have such lackluster connections. Which makes a reboot sound like a much more sensible option. If your making a sequel that can't make any connections to the previous story, then that just defeats the whole purpose of a sequel.
I really disappointed in the villain. I like sprouts earlier designs, especially the one that was in color. I think if they had a likable villain, not only would it bring in a lot of people from the fandom, but the ending would’ve been better as well because sprout ended up having to apologize to them, main characters or whatever. I’m thinking of the factors of marketability.
It is so nice to see this concept art. Cheers!
Thank you for keeping out the spoilers, I only seen my little pony a new generation, and tell your tale, I will watch the make your mark when dvds are available!
Maybe the rainbow factory was made and had twilights cutie mark because twilight gave earth ponies the jurisdiction to make rainbows to ease some political tensions. Like maybe earth ponies were getting upset that pegasi controlled all of the weather and unicorns had all of the magic, so as a way to appease them, twilight created this rainbow factory and had an agreement made to have the earth ponies be in charge of rainbow production. After all, in G4, earth ponies didn’t have plant magic, more so just general connection to the earth and being hardy and/or strong. So it makes sense they’d get upset and want more. Especially since any pony can farm, pegasi and unicorns probably were farming for themselves and devaluing earth ponies, making the earth ponies want more.
tbh i think the g5 that we didnt get is cooler than the one we get but im not a hater of g5 i love it
The one thing I like about Zipp and Pip's old designs is that they actually look related. The ones they used are good but they don't look any more related than any two random ponies on the street and I don't really think it helps that Zipp doesn't really match their mom either the way Pip does. And the two completely different looking wing types just further throws me off
I think with g4 it was made thinking about adults as well as children which is why it did so much better than g5
My problem with zip is that they look like toothpaste.
I think G5 can have a sci-fi fantasy setting unlike the others. Imagine, at some point after looking at medieval fantasy elements, you will start seeing stuff like futuristic flying ships, robotic pets & ponies, laser weapons, computers and PDAs, otherworldly-looking flora and fauna, and of course, AIs. It would be a cool addition to this generation of ponies. Of course, magic and the mythical creatures will stay.
If Final Fantasy can have some sci-fi elements to it, then MLP can too.
the g5 couldve been saved if it went that way into a more mystic type of cartoon then i wouldve loved it
12:06 Looks like an Iron Curtain from C&C Red Alert!
...Now I want a pony RTS.
Play Equestria at war mod from HOI4
The movie was cute, really liked it actually
It was the series that came after that ruined it. The animation is crusty, there’s way too much focus on making the characters “merch worthy”, the new winter area just puts glitter on everyone and their mom and the dialogue is just… empty..
villain looks absolutely horrid, backstory makes no sense.
Like, comeon. The backstory for the villain is that she’s from an ALICORN CITY. That existed during twilights time. It’s literally just “alicorn better, everyone else must die” and it completely removes the exclusivity or rarity of Alicorns as a concept.
I don't know what i know what it is, the music, your voice, the fun and interesting designs. but this vid gave me such a calm and relaxing nostalgia.
I wubs uuu ❤🦄
6:52 Oh My Celestia !!
I love g5, the music, the stories. I'm a fan of Sunny, then Izzy and Fifi the background pegasus.
So it could have been better, but they chose not to do it.
More likely they couldn't. ua-cam.com/video/3AFXTzvMEaw/v-deo.htmlsi=fMhegfk5llIEVuE_
Why are you calling zipp by he/him? Just wondering
G5 is cool
I'm glad you mentioned these concepts as the things we didn't get to see instead of "what g5 could have been". I believe more screentime, speically in the series, can solve mostly all the complains people have. Having the g5 we got is a refresher, has some ties with g4 but it can stand out by itself.
If you don't mind me asking, where did you find this information? Was it in an artbook? Is there a specific social media page I should find?
I would've asked the same thing but they probably won't take notice
Hi a lot of this information was found in the German and Spanish articles of the movie if you would like to look for them also sorry for the late response
22-23 Hours, lol!
This gives me so sad. I dislike G5. It's sad we couldve had. Im not the target audience of G5 I wasn't even the target audience of G4. I was 16 in 2010 and 25 in 2019 and I was a HUGE brony. one of the problems with Mlp G5 it's having way too many technology like social media. Like in g4 we had adventures crusaders and in G5 we have phone addicted children.
Can you link the Imges and Animatics you used?
I'm not trying to Be mean when I say this But I feel like you should know Zip is a girl Not a boy in the video you said "When he talked to his mother"Just Felt like you should know that zip a girl
I honestly would have preferred treehugger izzy
It's actually really nice to see anyone talk about g5's concept stuff without harping on the mane 6 and how it shouldve just been g4 2 electric boogaloo. I feel like so often whenever people talk about "the g5 we never got" its ONLY the mane 6 concepts, never the new cast. It's over, move on.
The rainbow factory is crazy😭
Hi from Japan 🇯🇵
Nice to meet you 🫶🏻💕
My question is ,
Do you think that if there is a next Mlp G5 film will they be able to put a lot of ideas and interest into their script?
Hi nice to meet you my answer is probably and probably no
A lot of these ideas have been scrapped and probably they are never going to be used again but on the other hand we could still see them because we saw that in tell your tale season 2 they used a rainbow machine in one of the episodes which is really similar to the machine we saw in the concept art of the movie but hey we just need to wait and see
What happened to the writing in the main TV show
There was too much cool stuff for me to point to !
But changes mean we wouldn't have got what we did.
Then this video would have rejected sketches of ponies and places instead of them being in the movie, and we would look at those rejected sketches and wonder what could have been...
Also, many of those sketches getting fleshed out would mean major changes to how the movie was written.
Maybe this video will inspire a G5 Double Rainboom or Dusk's Dawn😍
A lot of wasted potential 😢
They should have rolled with the 2D sketch appearance and painted backgrounds for there movie too. I feel like 3D takes the emotion out of animated films these days as well as the uniqueness
3D just isn’t as pretty and movable
But they look really soft and cuddly, in other words they made them to look like a plushie to sell more toys@@Master-Works
@@HarmonyOC I would rather want to cuddle with something from g4
The movie is really good but bruh wth is wrong with hasbro bro, they could've done a much better story with all those scrapped ideas.
I hate this gen- mist of them suck in my opinion I wanna see luster dawn 😭
8:23 *her mother
I kinda like Beta zip more than new zip, i mean, she could still be a detective, but has the rainbow dash like personality
I hate the poofy wings pip has they are just ugly as well as the alicorn stuff it feels rushed I wish they made better models and actually watched the show to get some ideas on what they could do like the concepts look good as 2d but this 3d is just bad
movie Izzy; ADHD
concept Izzy; Pot head
I'm sorry I had to
It could've been so good. The world is such a cruel place.
I wish they would fund a sequel movie and use some of these ideas or something. Cause all of the shows that came later did nothing for me.
you referred to Zip as a he and Spraut as a she in two different parts of the video :/
WE COULDVE GOTTEN AN EMO SPROUT NOOOO
My issue with g5 was it's clinging to g4 way too much, but the writers are too lazy to come up with a decent storyline that doesn't contradict old lore. I'm sure we'll eventually see how g5 started the way it did (or at least I HOPE we do). The previous gens (not counting 3.5 or 4.5) both were their own story. It would be so nice to have a new gen with brand new characters with unique personalities and designs, and 3D models make it so much easier to have more detailed designs (Like that adorable spotted Izzy concept). It's just such a shame the team is too focused on marketing to kids that they aren't paying attention to fans. Even the toys are awful, and MLP has always been a big toy line with cute dolls!
The animation for the movie felt cozy and refreshing but the series animation made me feel uncomfortable and made me feel annoyed
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