This is so helpful! I’m a wind player, and I actually find it much easier to line up the single note playing vs. clapping/snapping. I suppose it’s because I have a lot more practice aligning playing with a metronome. Or maybe just my general lack of coordination 😂
God mode upgrade would be putting the one click in different subdivisions. Like the 5th eighth note in 12/8, and ONLY the 5th eighth note. --5--- --5--- etc. Then onlythe 2nd, or 3rd, 4th, 6th, etc. I once practiced the whole Mozart concerto exposition with the metronome only clicking on the & of 3 in every other bar.
PDG- I’m an amateur pianist and this seems quite so-able and very clear. In hindsight,my former teacher (well known classical pianist) had no clue how to help me learn rhythm. He would just turn me lose saying “set your metronome at 45”. At first I had no clue what he meant, and two former teachers never explained it! It took weeks for me to suss out what he meant. He seemed to loooove the metronome; I hated it right away. Bad teaching. Your teaching is great! Thank you!❤️
Haha ☺️ Yes, all my students hate the metronome. I think, just how exactly to use the metronome to maximum effect needs to be taught (and practiced) during lessons somehow… 👍
Excellent! Thank you. I would also recommend recording practicing with a metronome and listening to it, like you would in the studio. Then adjust the playback speed much slower and check out if there’s any flamming.
Rob thank you for these amazing videos. I made all state this year and even got invites from colleges and I've still got 2 years left of highschool! Thanks for everything.
This is excellent. Not the same way I do it, which I think is neat! Really cool to see different ways, which adds to the toolbox of ways to teach this concept. Thanks!
Super great video! I loved all the tips and breakdowns of passages and gradual introduction of rhythms into ‘the beat’. The occasional beats-only practice - so valuable. I’m a string player, but forever mourn the lack of pocket in my own (and indeed most orchestras’) playing 🤮 We, on the whole, aren’t educated enough in this respect. Sure, we’ve learned how to play with metronomes, how to subdivide, how to ‘be together’ with other players -, but it doesn’t even come close to what you aspire to, Rob. And here in this vid is something of real value which, I feel, should be taught in all instrumental lessons…. Thanks 🙏
Thanks. I really appreciate your visuals for early and late! I also appreciate your sharing how long it takes you and what small sections you work on. very helpful!
You could add another level of difficulty: Put some sort of pattern (noise) out of tempo (ie: Another click at a very different tempo, or a song) and try to mantain your internal subdivision regardless of the distraction source. This will build a robust inner tempo, immune to external influence. Normal circumstance: Very loud clock, that is close to your desired tempo. If you don't build this skill, you'll end up playing (following or playing along with) the clock.
actually i would recommend using it at many different tempos so that you can start to get a feel for how the subdivision has to adjust inside a variety of tempos.
it's an iPhone app called Pro Metronome and i very much do not pay for the pro version. you set the tempo and then you can select which beats you want to be silent. here's the link: apps.apple.com/us/app/pro-metronome-tempo-beats/id477960671
i was using the app Amadeus on mac, which is a super simple audio editing app. it doesn't have a built-in function to compare audio like this, but you can easily slow down the track.
This is so helpful! I’m a wind player, and I actually find it much easier to line up the single note playing vs. clapping/snapping. I suppose it’s because I have a lot more practice aligning playing with a metronome. Or maybe just my general lack of coordination 😂
God mode upgrade would be putting the one click in different subdivisions. Like the 5th eighth note in 12/8, and ONLY the 5th eighth note. --5--- --5--- etc. Then onlythe 2nd, or 3rd, 4th, 6th, etc. I once practiced the whole Mozart concerto exposition with the metronome only clicking on the & of 3 in every other bar.
Hell yeah!! a new rob video. I took my notes as usual and it helps me a lot when I work on excerpts. Thank you so much, I hope you'll keep posting.
thanks for your kind words!
PDG- I’m an amateur pianist and this seems quite so-able and very clear. In hindsight,my former teacher (well known classical pianist) had no clue how to help me learn rhythm. He would just turn me lose saying “set your metronome at 45”. At first I had no clue what he meant, and two former teachers never explained it! It took weeks for me to suss out what he meant. He seemed to loooove the metronome; I hated it right away. Bad teaching. Your teaching is great! Thank you!❤️
glad it’s helpful!!
Haha ☺️
Yes, all my students hate the metronome.
I think, just how exactly to use the metronome to maximum effect needs to be taught (and practiced) during lessons somehow…
👍
Excellent! Thank you. I would also recommend recording practicing with a metronome and listening to it, like you would in the studio. Then adjust the playback speed much slower and check out if there’s any flamming.
great idea!
Rob thank you for these amazing videos. I made all state this year and even got invites from colleges and I've still got 2 years left of highschool! Thanks for everything.
woohoo!!!! congrats!
This is excellent. Not the same way I do it, which I think is neat! Really cool to see different ways, which adds to the toolbox of ways to teach this concept. Thanks!
Super great video! I loved all the tips and breakdowns of passages and gradual introduction of rhythms into ‘the beat’. The occasional beats-only practice - so valuable.
I’m a string player, but forever mourn the lack of pocket in my own (and indeed most orchestras’) playing 🤮
We, on the whole, aren’t educated enough in this respect.
Sure, we’ve learned how to play with metronomes, how to subdivide, how to ‘be together’ with other players -, but it doesn’t even come close to what you aspire to, Rob.
And here in this vid is something of real value which, I feel, should be taught in all instrumental lessons….
Thanks 🙏
glad that you found it helpful!!!! have fun working through it.
@@robknopperstudio thanks 👍
Thanks. I really appreciate your visuals for early and late! I also appreciate your sharing how long it takes you and what small sections you work on. very helpful!
thank you!
Rob! You’ve done it again! Thank you 🎉
Thank you for this content. As a woodwind player I kmow time and rhythm are always a weekness.
Well done Rob! Super super accurate and useful!
Thanks Rob!! You are very generous!!
You could add another level of difficulty: Put some sort of pattern (noise) out of tempo (ie: Another click at a very different tempo, or a song) and try to mantain your internal subdivision regardless of the distraction source. This will build a robust inner tempo, immune to external influence.
Normal circumstance: Very loud clock, that is close to your desired tempo. If you don't build this skill, you'll end up playing (following or playing along with) the clock.
i love those buzz rolls
Thanks, very nice teaching. I have a question : do this exercise have effect on a particular tempo or is it beneficial to others tempo ?
actually i would recommend using it at many different tempos so that you can start to get a feel for how the subdivision has to adjust inside a variety of tempos.
Great video! Curious which metronome you use to get such slow beats. I’ve got an old dr. Beat that only goes down to 35 bpm. Thanks!
it's an iPhone app called Pro Metronome and i very much do not pay for the pro version. you set the tempo and then you can select which beats you want to be silent. here's the link: apps.apple.com/us/app/pro-metronome-tempo-beats/id477960671
Are you using an app to measure the sound waves of the snap/clicks? If so can you please share?
i was using the app Amadeus on mac, which is a super simple audio editing app. it doesn't have a built-in function to compare audio like this, but you can easily slow down the track.
No one else is worried about the Mac on the edge of the table?
😏
It's almost all I could think about.