Orange Micro Dark 20 Watt Guitar Amplifier (Head and Cabinet)
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- This is the Orange Micro Dark 20 Watt Guitar amplifier and matching speaker. If you're into high gain amplifiers you'll probably get a kick out of this.
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*If some of you really take an interest, what experiences i made with effect-pedals and sound of the Orange "Micro-dark" -well - here is, what i can tell you:*
- First: *Don' t get fooled by the name...this is far more then a one-trick-pony- small hyper-distorting, hyper-scooped power generator for "dark dooomsday metal apostles"!!*-
Sometimes ago, I bought me the "Orange Micro-dark" for home work, because i first thought of a well sounding, uncomplicated little amp which does good "tube-driven" high-gain-sounds, but when i got and explored it, i found, that it was much more versatile, then i first thought...- in fact (and i' m not alone with that assessment!) i now would say, the micro-dark would not be my no. 1 choice, if i'd only like to have an extremly specialized typical "metal kind" of distorted guitar sound!). But i was not sad about that, because my musical activities are in the area of straight, prog hard rock and - on the other hand - a kind of southern blues rock. What i can say now, is: There are some "lunchbox amps" that nail this well -known scooped brutality you need for example for an extreme "metal sound" quite a bit (not dramatical!) better....- on the contrary, when you push in the gain, the "micro dark" shows an astonishing warm, for a hybrid amp appreciably natural kind of a typical british, tube-like - in the best sense - rock type of well-saturated distortion (and i do not say this, because i own one ;) - ...!.) - i can truely say, this little thing meets exactly the sound, "Orange" amps stand for!
And i was amazed a little, for i would never have expected this from an amp of this size and price level!! - Of course - the "micro dark" is a little beast, you can reach a fine punch of distortion, and - if you really want to - scooping the mids is no problem, thanks to the extremely sensitive "shape" control, but the over-all of the impression, that i got is, that the amp sounds pleasantly traditional....it' s more suitable for "classical" conceptions of "hard' n heavy" music - that's my opinion - ....
- I made a lot of sound testings, using only the sound of the amp - and also integrating *different overdrive and distortion units and nearly all kinds of other guitar effect devices* ( in the usual ways: gain-pedals & eq directly into the input section and different modulation & reverb/delays in the effect chain and also some "special" pedals, like pitch-shifter & even a guitar- synth) - sometime levelling the individual signals was a bit tricky and also finding the optimal places for the different devices in the chain , but finally the amp worked fantastic with all effects.
I made real good results with a t-rex "mudhoney 2", which gave me a crisp, "juicy" crunch overdrive on channel one and a full creamy, high-gain lead sound which reminds me remarkable of the sound texture which is very near to this of in the harder solo parts of -for example - a Steven Wilson on channel 2.
By using only the amp's sound settings, i got good results with the gain knob at 11 - 12 h and shape at 11 h for a bluesy solo sound and approx. 15 h for full frontal hard rock solo (i used both, humbucker and single coil pick-up equipped guitars).
Because of the solid-state power section you can manage to get satisfying clean undistorted sounds by holding the gain below 9 - 10 h, but this is not the strenght of the device! - The "Micro-Dark" is definitely a rock-amp and wants his user to kick its ass!!😝🤘
Another real great thing that i found, and that i will truely recommend you, was using a *stomp-box eq* (f.e. as the boss ge-7 eq with boost function) straight into the input-section - you can additional colorize your high-gain-sounds, or, - by using it in the effect-loop, that will turn your "micro-dark" into a 2-....or even a 3-channel amp. My "micro dark" took the eq pedal well - but please keep here in.mind, that the boost level must be aligned very careful with the total gain of the amp - i learned, that the switch must be used extremely careful, especially when you use clean or light crunched sounds, because the amp tends to react extremely sensible to every boosting of the signal in the effect chain!
What i found mostly important was (and please keep this in mind!) - for a respectable sound, it is absolutly important to use an *accuratly as possible voluminous speaker cabinet! Never ever* use these inferior mini-cabs that they designed for all of these lunchbox amps!! - For a full, bright sound you need a box with good, at least 12" speakers, f.e. Celestions. In my opinion, the "Orange" cabs with Vintage 30' s are here recommended!! - I can only give this tip to everybody who' s in doubt, which cab he/she should choose: *The "Orange" Celestion 1x12"", better: 2x12", or 4x12" cabs are a sound-dream* - perhaps the best speaker cabs in acceptable price ranges you can find for rock music on the present market!! Absolutly no joke!!
Hope you benefit from my experiences a bit - the "micro-dark" has - of course in its dimensions and price-zone - its limitations - but its a fantastic little animal and - in my opinion - nearly unbeatable for *that* money!! You will hardly find an amp in this catagory that gives you so much respectable "british tube sound" for so little money - and, if you take a little time and experiment how to chain your effects and set them right into line - you can blow up this "lunchbox" to a versatile, multi-channel rock amp! And, with the right cab - it has far enough power and loudness even for rehearsals and - f.e., as i do, as a backup-amp - small club gigs!!
All the best!! Stay healthy and keep rocking!!🤘🎸
Andy from germany!
P.S. *Thanks for this informative vid! Carry on!*
I love the Micro Dark for blues/rock sounds. I just wish that Orange made a 1x10 because I think that the 1x8 is too small, but a 1x12 would be too much
A company called BFG Cabs made a product called the PPC 110 "with the idea that Orange left a gap in their cab lineup. They have the PPC112 (1x12) and the PPC108 (1x8). The BFG110 was designed to fill that gap."
Necessity breeds invention, no?
it's a cool little bundle. that small cab would be cool for many things, BUT definitely would want at least a 1x12 to play a gig with. 😀👍
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This amp is actually my main gigging rig. I have pedals in the front end and in the FX Loops and it takes pedals really well. I did swap out the stock 12ax7(ECC83) and put in a JJ Gold Pin 12AU7 for more clean headroom. It sounds pretty freaking awesome, and I get compliments from other musicians after shows on the regular. Usually set up on stage with an over-sized 2x10 Panama Cabinet, with use of the cab sim into a board and the cab mic’d up (depending on the stage setup, it varies). It’s fun surprising folks with the size and tone/volume this thing pumps out. I use a vox type pre-amp pedal in the FX loop sometimes depending on the gig to change my EQ. Only real gripe for me is the cab sim, which can get fizzy. It’s totally usable but kind of wish it was a little better in quality. But for the price, and what you get, this amp is super difficult to beat.
I'm interested in the micro dark and the micro terror... When swapping the tubes, how much more headroom do you get? Enough to keep up a clean(ish) tone with live band, not at outrageous rock levels? Thanks much
Sounds like a Ratty Fuzzbox. Im suspecting the speaker is too small. I'd love to hear it through a 1x12 Celestion Creamback.
I run mine through a 1x12 vintage 30 cab, sounds awesome! Really beefs up the low end compared to the 8” made for it.
Great little amp, great tones.
yeah these amps with there mini cabs dont sound super great .. but as soon as you put them into any 12" solution the amps some alive. nice job on this shane
Clean tone at 4:50 - Now you're talkin' ! No more buzzin' outta that little 8" speaker with the gain up. That little box with an 8" speaker can't handle any kind of distortion at all, it just buzzes like hell. Plug that Micro Dark into a real 2 x 12 cab and that would be night and day, too, as I've noticed a LOT of people have mentioned. I've heard some demos of the Micro Dark into 4 x 12's as well and it'll knock your socks off, but that 8" speaker is just the worst.
I have one of these and a Blackstar 408 cab, it's so loud it rattles the windows above 3. Don't bother with the 1x12 put it through a larger cab and it sounds great.
I use mine with a British Voiced over-sized Panama 2x10 cab. It's stupid amounts of loud and sounds fantastic.
I know your commens a few years old, but I was wondering how this head performs with a pedal board?
@@youngsterjoey9038 I still have and use it, and my pedals sound good through it.
Really cool amp I'm hoping to get one and the little cabinet for my first amp 🤟 I've read alot of comments that you can use it with a bigger cab so I'll do that once I get past only knowing a few chords 😅 awesome video man 👊👍
That sounds pretty damn good.
Check out this little monster! For those who saw my other video, I posted tonight of the GAS Chronicles #2 - it'll be back up tomorrow I need to fix the glitches. Check it out using the links below. Thanks!
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intheblues please demo it through a larger cab, I use one through a Blackstar 408 cab and it's a different beast altogether.
I'll see if they have it mate. :-)
Not a bad little amp and cabinet! Wasn’t on my radar but I can see the fun you could have with it. 🎸🎸🤘🏽🤙🏾👍🏽
Shane playing through a non F-type amp... Kinda makes me feel weird. Just ain't right... ;-)
haha :-)
Orange amps alway sounds like they are about to blow up! Even with the 8” speaker it sounds better then the Marshall origin 5 fx
Definitely a nice little amp if you are really into high gain
get 2 of them run through 12 celestion vin. 30 loaded cabs .you can mic up and play bout anywhere .it takes overdrive pedals great
Dude, you really should have tested with a better cab, anything 1x12 or maybe your torpedo live. This amp sounds awesome but it’s matching cab sux :)
The point was to test it with the matching cab as a rig.
First 30 seconds told me this isn't an amp I want.
That and the fact there are seemingly hundreds of them in GC's used section.
But the Bantamps also have Cab Sim & Bluetooth for backing track's, great product for a Home tube amp..
That's a lovely guitar.
Thanks Dave! It's an absolute beast of a guitar I dig it!
I have the regular Micro Terror and I run it through a vertical 2x12 plywood cabinet with V30's You can totally gig with it(as long as you're not after a pristine clean) but totally loud enough through a 2x12 or 4x12 tp keep up with all but the hardest hitting drummers. Even so, when mic'ed up, it will do the job. It's great to have as a back up if a main head fails, but even on it's own for rock, classic rock or punk tones through a big cab, it sounds pretty damn good!
Awesome Sauce!
Great little amp. Very giggable. Simply match it with an appropriate cabinet for your intended purpose. It sounds massive with a 4x12. It always gets a laugh until I crank it up.
Speaker sound boxy cardboard like why did they make that cab so low quality the Randal 108 sounded super better than this and it is cheaper this lil cab soun ban with every amp I've seen demo not good the amp sounded good
It’s a great amp if you spend some time with it. I used to gig (small clubs) with this and a Vai 2x12 cab and the amp sat on my pedal board! . There is magic in the mildly distorted tones where it becomes a great pedal platform. And using a clean boost pedal in the fx loop will make it very loud. :-)
It’s a great option when it is raining like a mofo and you don’t want to haul a HRD 4x10 to the gig.
I'm a bedroom player and this amp is perfect for small spaces and low volumes. It is much better through a 1×12 cab. I do like the Orange cab for traveling.
Great honest review man! I have tried one of these out through a 2x12 and 4x12 it is a beast! Sound to me is a bit 'fizzy through the little cab!
I’ve had orange crush 12 for about a year now, was able to get it on Craigslist brand new for 60 bucks! Still had the tag on it and everything. I absolutely love the amp, and love it bit more because I was able to get it on a bargain. Lefties for life!
gawd, that speaker cabinet sounds awful... that amp head's not too bad, but you have to run it thru something decent.
mine sounds pretty good in a 4x12 also gotta swap the tube for something less gainy. I swapped my 12ax7 for a au or ay7 this made the tone more mellow and rounded
Its B Lo I use a 4x8 Blackstar cab with it and it's damn loud, sounds good too.
turn the shape button all the way left that when she gets dirty gain at 3 oclock rock on
To my ears it sounds a little ratty and fizzy some people like that I like a more thicker Plexi tone but to each his own
Cool good demo ...got one here swapped out the 12ax7 valve for Tung Sol much more punch and sharper ...
have fired it through 2 x12 cab - WoW !
Running a stock Micro, but also going through a 2x12 and you can run people right out of the living room with it (more down to my craptastic playing? Probably.).
You should check out the joyo bantamp series of amps
I reviewed 2 of them about a year ago I think. :-)
Yup. Shane did reviews of the AtomiC (Vox tones) and BlueJay (Fender tones). For $150 or so, it's hard to beat the features of the Joyo Bantamps (20wrms, effects loop, 12ax7 Pre, Bluetooth, etc). Would have liked to see a review of the JaCkMan (JCM / Marshall tones) as well.
A guy i know told me he knows a dude who lost his ability to play after trying to make these amps work for serious situations.
Ah, a review that shows how bad it actually sounds.
A valve amp is a very possible next addition to my little box of tricks, but I'm not altogether keen on that sound. That's just personal opinion of course, others may think that sounds like honey. Been contemplating the Rocker 15 Terror, My nephew has the DT30, which I've never heard live, simply because he lives in a flat and he sez the thing is flipping monstrous, and is therefore about to sell it. Thanks for the demo though, it does help narrow down the field. Pity though, love the price of these things, and the size.
If it sounds crappy with a 1×8 cabinet it will sound less crappy with a bigger cabinet LOL
It's true. There are 3 main reasons 8" speakers just don't work very well for guitar amplification:
1. A bigger speaker can reproduce the longer wavelengths better.
High notes are short wavelengths, low notes are long wavelengths.
Translation: if you want full, rounded low-end, use a bigger (12", 15", 18") speaker.
2. The sensitivity ratings of smaller speakers is typically less than that of their larger counterparts. It is unusual in the guitar amp world, to see an 8" driver having sensitivity of above about 96db; whereas, most 'quality' 12" drivers are rated anywhere from about 95db all the way up to about 103db. The larger driver just produces a lot more absolute output. Average is about 98db or so. A 98db driver is twice as loud as a 95db driver. A 101db driver is 4x as loud as a 95db driver.
3. There are just a lot fewer 8" drivers made compared to 12:" drivers. Amp/speaker manufacturers just don't make it a focus to use 8" drivers in their products; hence, there just aren't that many available. However, there are many very fine HiFi/PA 8" drivers -- and anyone looking to upgrade should seriously look at some for guitar use. One I have found that I absolutely love is the JBL/Selenium 8PW3 (it's a 125WRMS PA speaker). Nice full low-end, clear chimey highs, an intrinsic mid scoop as well---for those liking vintage Fender type tones. It is a very capable 8" guitar amp speaker. It has a 92db efficiency; so it isn't super loud, but can handle a good deal of power pushed to it.
OR it could still sound crappy, but just a lot more annoying for the neighbours?? this thing sucks
Lol have you actually played one of these amps. The compression of UA-cam kills what the amp actually sounds like. The 8” is fine for bedroom practice it’s very loud. If you put this through a big cab I guarantee you’ll be smiling 😎
Gor mine n im pretty happy, not so my neighborhs lol
Awesome review - Great soft cleans and for that dirty - vintage hardrock - punk - metal fuzz kind of music ! How is the headphone output sound quality ? The mini speaker cab is more kind of a novelty item ;-D Does it have cabsim ? Thnx !
I have one of these and use it with a 1X12 Vintage 30 equipped cab, it sounds great, the matching cab sounded boxy to me. I have seen it used live through a 2X12 Orange cab and it was absolutely loud enough.
Great Review Shane.
Also check out the Joyo Bantamps.
Around $230.00 from Artist Guitars in Sydney.
I had this exact amp and cab. The amp sounded good through the 1x8 cab, but after I played it through a 2x12 I came to realize how poorly matched the head and cab were. You'll never really know what the micro dark head can do until you play it through a proper cabinet instead of that cheap and cheerful unit orange bundles with it.
Indeed. The same is true for almost any packaged/bundled speaker cab hosting an 8" driver. They just don't work very well. To make matters worse, the same companies usually just stick in a low-end cheap unit that has only the most modest capabilities.
What works MUCH better (and is cheaper) is to buy a good quality driver ("speaker") and build your own solid wood (pine in my case) box for it. I have made several for
Teach me
i just bought this amp today and with the 2018 les paul studio is insane cool i had an old bloc 100G amp i converted to a cab it has the 12 inch in it and it sounds great with this amp
Wow, that's a lot of gain. If you're into that kind of thing, it's great! I don't think anyone buying a high gain amp is going to be too concerned with a crystal clear clean channel but the tones you've got there are very warm and lovely. So, for what it does, I'd say it's amazing. For the price you could use an AB switch with a clean head. Or stereo! Oh the fun. Great demo, Shane :)
Jajaj...sounds like its about to explode!!! It reminded me to kyuss sound, a sound that doesnt fit in itself. No one complains about kyuss tone though
I had the micro terror in my studio and ran it into my mess 212 cab. To me it was a fantastic clean amp and if you just push it to barely breaking up then hit it with a great od or dist pedal it's awesome.
I’ve had this little amp for about a year now and I think it’s the best little head Orange makes. Liked it much better than the AC50s. I run it into a Traynor 1x12 semi open cab.
Their is one of the Micro terror at my local store used. They want $100, without a power supply. Little to much honestly, I'd give them $75. Do a demo of micro terror if you can.
Larry Blair go to a different shop because if they are changing you for a power supply they are ripping you off. The supply is included with the amp😉
i want it only for the cleans hahhahahah
Would you consider checking out the Vox mv50 micro heads
They look like toys (as in really, really small) but if I get a chance to test them I will. Sky Music doesn't stock Vox for whatever reason so I'll see what I can do. :-)
bro i like your styel of music
Hook it up to a big cabinet like 2x 12s or 4x12s then it will shine. The small speaker is does it no justice.
Please try a Roland JC 120
cool vid neat amp
Awesome, do more of these oddball kind of amps :)
I have a few more weird ones I can grab :-) I'll see what I can do.
Man there's tons of mini heads and cabs I'd love to hear them all :)
i have one sounds great it keeps up with my randall
Sounds LIKE you're playing out of a cardboard box LOL! Best served by a minimum 12" speaker. Amp it self is pretty good. NOT 1 for a lot of high headroom cleans LOL!
I had a ripper jam with Paul last night! Rocked the house! Doing some video now!
DMSProduktions x I own the head with a PPC112 cab and it sounds pretty good
I bet it does! Most amps are often let down by their speaker!
Shane, I love your vids but everybody reviews the same gear over and over again. Why not check out these two small amps: Traynor Darkhorse DH15H head and the YGL1 combo? There is lots of great gear that's ignored for the sake of pleasing the big guys. It seems...
It's whatever I can find mate. I used to have some Traynor stuff it's great but finding it locally here is tough and being able to return it/borrow is another task within itself. I had never tried an orange amp so I thought it might be fun. They actually have some more obscure stuff at the shop I'll get some more soon. I have no idea who the big guys are you're talking about either. No one tells me what to demo mate.
I hear you. I don't know. They don't seem to advertise. Maybe they sell all they want to.
Flubby blubby
Are you doing a demo of the bassbreaker in the back??
I just bought a 007 head and matching cab for $425 usd. Arriving tomorrow
Great vid!
Yuch !
I owned one and then sold it. I did not like the structure of the distortion, or the quietness of the clean tone. I tried the Micro Dark through an 8ohm 2x12 and a 16ohm 4x12. Now I own a Marshall DSL 40c and I am super happy.
The lunchbox head thing is kind of gimmicky, simply because most of the good ones are overpriced, compared to non-boutique combo amps with similar specs.
Fun Fact: The name Corbin means “raven” or “little crow”.
mmm not digging the tones from that thing. Ive played the orange bigger terror brothers a year ago shopping for a reasonably priced Amp and cabinet and i found them really average sounding for the price. I settled on a Jet city 20 watt custom with 2x12 cabinet for the same money and it blew it away.
Man I'm looking for low volume "late night" amp. I was considering that cab and a moose little monster or some other tiny tube head
Hello Shane. You tested the Joyo BanTamP Bluejay Amplifier Head and the Orange here. If you were to chose, wich one would it be. Sorry to place you in this situation. Thanks. By the way I do watch your videos often. Great job
Sounds mushy because you are putting the delay and reverb on the front end. This amp has got an fx loop; it would have been good to use that. Anyway, I think its clear: buy the amp, don´t buy the speaker.
The 8" speaker makes this amp sound cheap. Plug it into a 1, 2 or 4x12 and it will knock you over.
This recording doesn't do it any justice. I just tested this amp, and speaker combo at my local music shop. Though not to strongest on the lows. It does sound a lot better, and stronger then what you can hear in this video. Through a 12" speaker it is just amazing.
sounds great for room, living room, garage, or small cafe enviroment would be nice. thank you for this video
no reverb, but i hear reverb......
That's why I can't take this too seriously. What else was done to make this sound good, with links in the description?
Even though I traded this amp for a pedal...it's was great but I swapped the tube out for a Tungsol 12ax7 and ran it through a mesa 4x12..I did not care for running effects through the front.
FYI I am having tremendous success with the pairing of this orange head with Eminence/Alessandro 10inch speaker ( ceramic 20watt "1964"). Cheers!
Any chance you tried out the Micro Dark thru a larger speaker? I’m thinking of getting one and wondering how it might sound thru a Blues Jr Tweed speaker.
Im a sucker for little amps, high or low gain. I would love to see you do more demos of even smaller amps like your bugera v5. Maybe a 57 custom Champ?
no worries mate, I will see what I can do coming up in Jan! :-)
Sounds great, thanks for all you hard work Shane the channel keeps getting better and better.
With the gain turned up it sounds pretty fuzzy and crappy.
im standing between this guy and fender mustung gt 40 what do you think about that?
I don’t mind the sound of it . Sounds very Tube like even tho it’s semi solid state
would love to hear the orange through my avatar 2x12, probably would sound really good
I have genuinely gigged with this bad boy, through a Laney 4x12 is SHOCKING
Please try it thru a 2x12 or even 4x12 before you send it!!! You won't be disappointed at all!
I had an Orange Micro Terror and CR60. The dirt on both sounded fizzy like a can of bees, just awful. Both had decent clean. In the end I traded both amps in toward an OR15. Best. Decision. Ever. The OR15 sounds like a proper amp, even when toggled to 7watts. I understand there is a substantial price difference but if possible I'd recommend saving for the OR15. It's that much better. If possible try the OR15 in the store. Outstanding vintage Orange tone.
I play mine through a Bugera 80 watt 1x12 and it sounds quite good to me. Would probably be even better with a couple Celestion Greenbacks.
Is the micro dark friendly to od/distortion pedals?
Hate that tone, it's harsh and without any definition whatsoever
I'd LOVE to see you do a review on the Bugera T5 Infinium lunchbox head! All tube, and seems to be really nice, at a great price point, but there are NO decent demos out there. I know you have the V5, but this looks a bit more versatile. Give it a look. Always enjoy and trust your gear opinions.
You should definitely review more orange stuff. Also you should try that on a 4 12!
I bought an Orange PP108 cab and put an eminence 8 Alpha speaker into it, and it now sounds great! It's a pro audio speaker, and will handle 100 watts.
I have one. I think your limitation with your review is the cabinet. Try running it through a 1x12 or 2x12. I run mine into a 120 Watt 2x12. It will get *really* loud through that. I bet it'd be loud enough for a jam session. It's not my main amp, but it's fun to tinker around with. It's definitely the most portable one I have and I often use it as a headphone amp when I'm travelling.
Was there a reason you didn't bother using the FX Loop?
I got one of these run it through a 4×12 Marshall cab. Sounds awesome. Real tone. Sounds better than the Marshall head I have Mg100 hdfx.
Shane,
Out of all the amps that you have played, which one have you liked the most?
Bet it would sound wonderful into an openback 2x12 cab.
I have one these that I run through a 4 x12 cab and it is loud! It gives my 100w amp a run for its money, and the tone is awesome. Mine sounds nothing like this demo.
I have the non dark Micro Terror and the 1x8 cab. They sound fine stood on a carpeted concrete floor but buzz and fart on a suspended wooden floor.
Can you use a foot switch for clean and boost on any of the Orange lunch box amps
Definitely need to hook up to a larger cabinet and use the fx loop.
hey bud, what's the out impedance on that orange?