Let the truth be known that Ian actually has a chipmunk voice and has been deliberately slowing down his videos for the past dozen years to make his voice sound normal
Why'd you choose a 308 AK if you were gonna modernize it and add all that extra weight? Why not just run the last build with a magnifier? It was much faster and lighter, it just needed a magnifier. I would have liked to have seen you run a mini-beryl (since you're polish) modernized. You're gonna be gassed and shot after the first run my man with that heavy 308
@@mr.c.3760the Crew of polenar tactical is from Slovenia not Poland. There are quite some countries in between them... But I would like to hear his opinion anyway on your question.
Probably my favorite part of these Brutality matches is seeing the folks who run less-than-optimal kit. Because as great as it is to test yourself, it's still important to have fun. Competition always needs that element, otherwise it becomes another job. That said, I like Ziga's gun best, but overall kit goes to Bloke.
I think Calvin's plan here could turn into a new match division (PUBG division, if you will). Everyone in that division shows up with no rifle, maybe no kit at all, and no knowledge of what they will get. Could be some AKMs someone dug out of the mud, could be standard PTR 91s with red dots, could be sharks with lasers. Who knows!
Add that M-14 to some of the European shooters bringing variants of the FN FAL, the H&K G-3, the Cetme, and the battle rifles used in European Army's, western or eastern, Europe. Whatever has been in use since 1950.
At Desert Brutality '21 I managed to get third place overall on one stage. I determined that I was able to do so because of two things: 1) shooting a pistol accurately and 2) sprinting. Running sprints isn't sexy and neither is shooting the best groups you can with your pistol on B8 targets, but that stuff translates into performance.
Pretty sure Mike should win just by turning up in that kit. 🇬🇧 that’s also one of the very rare occasions that someone has tried to use the browning holster.
@@kenlandrover I managed a whopping 11 hits ( :| ) and nearly face planted. It was fun. I think the best I've seen was 15? There's another version of the same drill that's done with a kettlebell, but isn't a normal Kasarda drill.
Uncle Harry is probably banned from Finland, so hopefully Henry can help get that cleared up so he and Josh can be there next year with any weapon they want... Although Harry and Les probably do international weapon shipping slightly different 🤔 Oh well they'll figure it out! Thanks for being the dependable "supportive redirection team" this year 😆👍
I tip my hat for Ian's G3. A battle rifle might actually be quite beneficial on some stages, I took the 3rd place in Irons with G3 last year. It only took six rounds to turn the spinner.
That Finnish M05 is great looking. Already saw Jiga's loadout, that's a crazy tricked out AK. If it wasn't in Finland, might be cool to try a 6.5 grendel AR.
Good video discussion! You covered what I tell my students; the range is here so you can improve your skills and performance, not to just come out and make expensive noise.
Your comments WRT weight and size of past Battle Rifles is interesting when applied to the US military’s selection of a new rifle. Having carried an M1 Garand, M14 in training and field exercises and transitioning to an M16 in the active Army, that weight and size (including ammo) makes a world of difference, particularly with all the other “stuff” a soldier needs to carry.
I did an all day rifle class with a PTR 32 and can tell you that the G3 platform will work you. It was a fun day , but being 59 years old I felt like i may have chosen poorly lol. It was a fun day though and the rifle was flawless .
The Finnish Brutality is awesome. I wish I could participate but at my age it ain't happening. I have enough trouble with a standard IDPA or a Steel Challenge competition. Wish the best for all competitors. I'll watch as many of the competitors as possible. I wish all the different shooting sports activities were available when I was younger. I am just as happy that future generations will be able to participate. Wishing the best for all competitors. Good luck everybody.
I agree, Keep shooting to the best the weapon system can shoot, the skill you guys have is something I strive to accomplish which means more practice, more trigger time and more training. You guys keep doing you.
Great discussion as always gentlemen. You fellows mentioned British soldiers clearing small European houses with full sized SLR's. Remember that in WWII, much house clearing was done with M1 Garands, No4 MK1's, K98K's, and Mosin Nagant's. In those situations, the luckier soldiers had Thompsons, Grease Guns, Stens, MP40's, PPSh41's, or PPS43's.... For the heavy class in Finnish Brutality, I think I'd go with a Para FAL with a Primary Arms 3X microprism on a DSA mount......or a Perun X17 with the PA 3x microprism.
I was not a boy scout and another "average" guy. I watch 9-Hole to learn how to hit targets at distance. Thank you for explaining your techniques (eg; chevron, front post, reference target-landmark) learned over "many years". Your 15 min videos have passed to me your secrets improving my on-target skills at range. Good day.... sammy
Great preview of the competition! Regarding that last comment, I enjoy watching experts wring the absolute best out of any item, be they rifles, pistols or cars. What really annoys me is snobbery where anything but the most top tier precision example is dangerous garbage and those who choose lesser are incompetent poors.
Fully agree that we see you both shooting to the best of your potential. This sets a benchmark for those who wish to improve and see which platforms perform best to that improvement level. Also, regardless of discipline, if either of you are having issues, these will magnify for lesser able or practiced shooters. IMHO your videos are exceptional and benchmark skills and ability alongside the platforms and optics allowing the watcher to evaluate without the expense of time and investment to reach a conclusion. Exceptional video as always and also very funny...BOTR getting a self destruct, Gun Jesus carrying a dumb-bell weight, multiple shots of Polinar gasping and Calvin...omg! Do not change your vids and put Muppets like me on shooting...keep up the EXCELLENT work!
If I ever had the honor of being able to go to something like Finnish Brutality, I think I’d do “larp” setups because it sounds like that’d be super fun, even if it’s not the most optimal setup
This reminds me a lot of your scenario videos. Any chance you guys are going to do more of those? Maybe bring Josh’s competition experience as more “main” topic
I'm a Finnish scout sniper myself so I like to know what other people can do with weapons that are similar to that I myself are most likely to use in real situation.
Totally agree on the working on skills. The skill levels achieved by armies who trained to shot well compared to other armies who did not train as much been shown to have dividends many times. However this would take a several hours of discussion to go into.
on the topic of the comment that you mentioned, I watch your videos to see what the rifles are capable of when someone with the proper experience uses it. it helps m understand the potential of the rifle and what it can do if I was to train and learn.
I feel it is strange to think “average” shooters would somehow translate into more useful information. They wouldn’t shoot as well. That is all we would learn. Higher skills, more training should, I would think make the pluses or minuses be easier to identify. Especially due to more consistent shooting. I do some archery. If I haven’t practiced in a while I still shoot well enough but I am way less consistent. Also fatigue sets in quicker. Without those things effecting these guys as much I’d assume we get -more- reliable comparisons. Besides military rifles are meant to be used by people who train with them. I can’t think of any value to be added by a noob. Unless it was ease of use. In which case I suppose we would learn which gun to buy if we were suddenly going to war and planned on just lining people up and handing them out.
+1 on the philosophy that everyone should strive for self improvement, and it is good to follow and aspire to equal or exceed those who are superior shooters, athletes, scholars, whatever.
I'm glad that I'm not the only one rocking a full battle rifle. I have changed some parts on my m1a standard and also put a scout mount on my 22" barrel with scout scope or red dot. It works great and is the lowest mount. I get 1 moa out of her .
I really enjoyed that video - like everyone you guys made! Just a little point on US vs EU houses: we are defending our houses since the roman times - we know how to build a defensive position 😈Greeting from Bavaria - sitting in a house, built in the 1700‘s
I appreciate your point at the end. I want to see what the absolute maximum performance of a weapon system by high end shooters. I really don't like to consider myself a "professional shooter" but I was an infantryman, and now I work in nuclear security where I'm paid to patrol with a rifle. Both have a level of competitiveness around our range scores and times on the ranges that involve running and clearing areas. I want a 1moa rifle to train with because I want to eliminate as many variables as possible so I knew every flyer in my grouping is due to something I am doing and can improved on. It's the same mind set of all the other top end shooters at my job. It's what's allowed to me to improve my shooting proficiency as quickly as possible because I was never thrown off by mechanical issues disguising themselves as technique issues when I was doing everything right. The other biggest driver of performance has been physical fitness. The fattest I've been was also the least accurate I've ever been. If your body is in shape every aspect of marksmanship will be easier to achieve.
100% agree with Henry & Josh...."you want to know the core potential of a firearm, so having a good shooter behind the firearm is ideal when testing on a range". Any "Average Joe" can improve their shooting skills with some time & effort (training) practising shooting fundamentals.
As a shooter and a regular viewer of your channel, I watch your contend BECAUSE of your great shooting skills. I want to know what all these guns are capable of. If an "regular" shooter shoots these tests, I do not know how the result came to be. If the person behinde the gun is very good at using guns in general (compensating for wind, weather, mirage and so on), then I, as a viewer, know what the GUN can or can not do. That is my view.
First of all I agree with you on keeping the bar high and improving yourself. Question for you both, what would your pack out be if you were going to Fininsh Brutality?
Idk what the comment said exactly but perhaps when talking about taking a variety of random shooters, they meant what Karl (InRangeTV) did with Primary & Secondary testing battle rifles
Whole heartedly agree with Josh's last point on defeatism. Maybe it's just people rationalizing to themselves why they don't push themselves to improve.
Ref your comment on the "Skill of the shooter" when you 9 hole your rifles. I agree with you, the better the shot, the better we as viewers see the potential of the rifle. It would be good to see you two guys competing in Finnish Brutality, I would love to see the gear out you would chose, perhaps maybe do a short on what you would choose, if you did have to compete, that would be interesting.
In Brutality there's some concepts that favor the 7.62x51. One hit on target versus two with the 5.56 for instance. Weight of the arms and kit is an issue if you're running trooper and have to run 3km between each stage. Etc. Excuse me while I throw some kettlebells around and wish I was good enough.
The one thing I don't understand is why Mike isn't running DPM Tropical, they'd be lighter and more comfortable but GOD 68 patt looks amazing and boots DMS are fantastic. Thats the loadout I am reproducing next.
you can push the limit of a firearm if you cant shoot 100 yards anyway. i love the fact that your a tac driver with irons out to 500. i kind of do like the idea of a normal shooter out on the range with you guys ( you can show the difference between skill which is more important than the rifle)
Good video! Your little talk of the "average person shooting averagely"-thing got me thinking though... It *would* be nice to see... in the form of something like following regular Schmoe on their way to physical fitness, only this one would focus mostly on firearms & shooting proficiency :) Because there, people from Column A get to see their average shooter maybe shooting a variety of guns, if nothing else to find out what works for them (great point to have a gun & gear review or two), and people from Column B would eventually (hopefully!) get to see their high-skill, low-drag shooter cleaning courses and scoring magnificent hits (great point to have a second review of the stuff from the earlier reviews, to talk about the differences and new perspectives) :) I know what people are gonna reply to me: "Why don't *you* go do it?" It's a fair question, but I'm hindered by two facts, namely, I'm a lazy-ass nerd with shaky hands who flinch at loud noises and have a hard time seeing even a short, very enjoyable video game to the end without losing focus and wanting to do something else, and the second hindrance being that I live in a country where you may only have a gun (as a civilian) if you actively shoot with a club (none around here and I don't have a car) or if you're a hunter (I'm a vegetarian) ^^;
That trigger on Calvin's AUG doesn't look stock, but I might be mistaken from the low quality picture used. It's such a pain to get one here and some remove the drop safe feature. It doesn't matter much though. As much as I watched russell aka sinistral rifleman, skills around the stages matter the most besides stamina and conserving energy.
Well said in the conclusion; why strive for mediocrity. I would love to see in addition to practical accuracy and the speedway, Josh run some of these historic pieces in close to mid range positional shooting, like those of finish brutality. Not as elaborate of course, but enough to showcase what these old warhorses are capable of. I think it would contribute greatly to the overall review of each rifle.
I remember competing in Finnish and Desert Brutality in '21. And by "competing" I mean "sat on my couch and ate pizza while watching them on UA-cam." :P
Regarding the commenter you mentioned. His viewpoint is the direct apposite of what you need for reviewing the performance of a firearm. I want scientific data, and removing the increased randomness of a mediocre trained shooter and replacing it with the consistency of a well trained shooter leads to a better view of the actual firearm. The only way to be better would be to take all the shots off of a rest, but that would be boring and not entertaining. Henry is consistent and provides an excellent baseline for these reviews.
Very funny. 36:20 up to a point. There is an obvious value in displaying the full potential of a gun, but the potential when interacting with a low skill individual is also a vluable data, and sometime a pretty different one. P.S. no comment on Fabian's set up?
I can’t lie and say I haven’t got the eye relief wrong and got a nice red ring for my trouble. It was a pretty good whack- 358 Winchester with 250 gr bullet out of a very light BLR.
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Let the truth be known that Ian actually has a chipmunk voice and has been deliberately slowing down his videos for the past dozen years to make his voice sound normal
I had the same reaction
Man has developed a serious helium saturation habit, if people were really his friends they would say something and not help him cover it up.
Always knew he was a talented Man. 😅
IRL he sounds pretty normal
@@ivanovskyivanovich7860 Most people sound pretty normal when they're not all gassed up on helium...
All I know about Finish Brutality is that it's a young person's game. At 70, I'm happy to sit on the sidelines and watch.
You could start a Bum-knee Brutality 😉😅
@@RaDeus87Bad Back Brutality, Bathroom Break Brutality…
I’m 71 so I get to say these things.
Titanium knees and PEDs....and I'm 57.....🙃
@@johnketchun2816sounds like you were Infantry. Maybe Airborne.
@@aggrodkreg4321 NO College Football....Judo.....Powerlifting . ..
Would love to see Henry and Josh in Finnish brutality.
One can dream
YES!
I'd like to see ME in Finnish Brutality! Someone has to come in last .😂🤣
Yea please next Year!!!
Loved the video!
That is a sweet rifle. And well worth the extra pain.
Love that rifle. Need it in the states.
@@georgekirby3361 I want see Ian's review of it...
Why'd you choose a 308 AK if you were gonna modernize it and add all that extra weight? Why not just run the last build with a magnifier? It was much faster and lighter, it just needed a magnifier. I would have liked to have seen you run a mini-beryl (since you're polish) modernized. You're gonna be gassed and shot after the first run my man with that heavy 308
@@mr.c.3760the Crew of polenar tactical is from Slovenia not Poland. There are quite some countries in between them... But I would like to hear his opinion anyway on your question.
Probably my favorite part of these Brutality matches is seeing the folks who run less-than-optimal kit. Because as great as it is to test yourself, it's still important to have fun. Competition always needs that element, otherwise it becomes another job.
That said, I like Ziga's gun best, but overall kit goes to Bloke.
Ian using a new, untested red dot that he’s never practiced with until the day before the competition is very on brand haha
It couldn't end badly could it?
Karl Kasarda is looking at him shaking his head. He knows a thing or two because he’s seen a thing or two
Gun Jesus does not need sights! Gun Jesus controls the bullet with his divine powers!
I think Calvin's plan here could turn into a new match division (PUBG division, if you will). Everyone in that division shows up with no rifle, maybe no kit at all, and no knowledge of what they will get. Could be some AKMs someone dug out of the mud, could be standard PTR 91s with red dots, could be sharks with lasers. Who knows!
I love that idea, but if I was providing the gear I’d be worried about the users breaking my stuff
Aww, was so hoping to see Josh running through the mud in Finland 😂 Great video as usual guys!
Watch Calvin beat everybody with something like an iron sight M14! 😂 Cheers from Finland
I kind hope he gets hold of Dragunov. Just for shit and giggles.
He has the power of all of us Calvin's behind him.
Add that M-14 to some of the European shooters bringing variants of the FN FAL, the H&K G-3, the Cetme, and the battle rifles used in European Army's, western or eastern, Europe. Whatever has been in use since 1950.
@@whomagoose6897
Even stranger BM-59. 🤭
At Desert Brutality '21 I managed to get third place overall on one stage. I determined that I was able to do so because of two things: 1) shooting a pistol accurately and 2) sprinting. Running sprints isn't sexy and neither is shooting the best groups you can with your pistol on B8 targets, but that stuff translates into performance.
Yes! 🙂
the basic is what You com back to.
Is precisionshooting fun...nah! But it builds Your shooting. 🙂
Pretty sure Mike should win just by turning up in that kit. 🇬🇧 that’s also one of the very rare occasions that someone has tried to use the browning holster.
I always appreciate seeing the old kits at Brutality matches. Mike in military kit, Karl in Cowboy... its all great
As long as his loadout doesn’t assault him again
so when are you two going to Finnish Brutality so we can live vicariously thru y'all?
Or any Brutality match. CQB Brutality sounds right up Josh’s USPSA alley.
Should have competed in Remote Brutality. I'm 41 and out of shape, still did it. Had a blast with my buddy. Smoked most 20 yr olds in score.
@@kenlandrover I managed a whopping 11 hits ( :| ) and nearly face planted. It was fun. I think the best I've seen was 15? There's another version of the same drill that's done with a kettlebell, but isn't a normal Kasarda drill.
Finnish is the most brutal Brutality. We want to see them there, having fun with all the Scandies.
@@PalleRasmussen loved the “Ukka Jari’s Misguided Children” hat/patch that came out this year.
Was Cousin Harry's syndicate an event sponsor? Did he have a booth?
Nice commentary. Would love to see a Saiga 308 on the practical accuracy course. It would be interesting if it ran circles around the PSL.
Uncle Harry is probably banned from Finland, so hopefully Henry can help get that cleared up so he and Josh can be there next year with any weapon they want... Although Harry and Les probably do international weapon shipping slightly different 🤔 Oh well they'll figure it out! Thanks for being the dependable "supportive redirection team" this year 😆👍
I tip my hat for Ian's G3. A battle rifle might actually be quite beneficial on some stages, I took the 3rd place in Irons with G3 last year. It only took six rounds to turn the spinner.
Ian took 2... damn 7.62mm got a Punch 🙂
That Finnish M05 is great looking. Already saw Jiga's loadout, that's a crazy tricked out AK. If it wasn't in Finland, might be cool to try a 6.5 grendel AR.
LOL! The end cracked me up. Henry do that same French accent as if you are in Vietnam before Dien Bien Phu.
Good video discussion! You covered what I tell my students; the range is here so you can improve your skills and performance, not to just come out and make expensive noise.
Throwing your slr mags down the front of your jacket , otherwise known as the Brecon pouch . Who needs those new fangled dump pouches anyway ! Lol
Your comments WRT weight and size of past Battle Rifles is interesting when applied to the US military’s selection of a new rifle. Having carried an M1 Garand, M14 in training and field exercises and transitioning to an M16 in the active Army, that weight and size (including ammo) makes a world of difference, particularly with all the other “stuff” a soldier needs to carry.
I did an all day rifle class with a PTR 32 and can tell you that the G3 platform will work you. It was a fun day , but being 59 years old I felt like i may have chosen poorly lol. It was a fun day though and the rifle was flawless .
The Finnish Brutality is awesome. I wish I could participate but at my age it ain't happening. I have enough trouble with a standard IDPA or a Steel Challenge competition.
Wish the best for all competitors. I'll watch as many of the competitors as possible. I wish all the different shooting sports activities were available when I was younger. I am just as happy that future generations will be able to participate. Wishing the best for all competitors. Good luck everybody.
I agree, Keep shooting to the best the weapon system can shoot, the skill you guys have is something I strive to accomplish which means more practice, more trigger time and more training. You guys keep doing you.
Great discussion as always gentlemen. You fellows mentioned British soldiers clearing small European houses with full sized SLR's. Remember that in WWII, much house clearing was done with M1 Garands, No4 MK1's, K98K's, and Mosin Nagant's. In those situations, the luckier soldiers had Thompsons, Grease Guns, Stens, MP40's, PPSh41's, or PPS43's....
For the heavy class in Finnish Brutality, I think I'd go with a Para FAL with a Primary Arms 3X microprism on a DSA mount......or a Perun X17 with the PA 3x microprism.
They were also quite prodigious in their use of grenades...
I was not a boy scout and another "average" guy. I watch 9-Hole to learn how to hit targets at distance. Thank you for explaining your techniques (eg; chevron, front post, reference target-landmark) learned over "many years". Your 15 min videos have passed to me your secrets improving my on-target skills at range. Good day.... sammy
Ian rocking the NAFO patch!
#NAFOExpansionIsNonNegotiable
He's a Fella! Welcome to the club, Ian! We are so glad to have you!
Cringe! I am vomit
Sadly
@@ericcameron7273 ew
Great preview of the competition! Regarding that last comment, I enjoy watching experts wring the absolute best out of any item, be they rifles, pistols or cars. What really annoys me is snobbery where anything but the most top tier precision example is dangerous garbage and those who choose lesser are incompetent poors.
Fully agree that we see you both shooting to the best of your potential. This sets a benchmark for those who wish to improve and see which platforms perform best to that improvement level. Also, regardless of discipline, if either of you are having issues, these will magnify for lesser able or practiced shooters. IMHO your videos are exceptional and benchmark skills and ability alongside the platforms and optics allowing the watcher to evaluate without the expense of time and investment to reach a conclusion. Exceptional video as always and also very funny...BOTR getting a self destruct, Gun Jesus carrying a dumb-bell weight, multiple shots of Polinar gasping and Calvin...omg! Do not change your vids and put Muppets like me on shooting...keep up the EXCELLENT work!
If I ever had the honor of being able to go to something like Finnish Brutality, I think I’d do “larp” setups because it sounds like that’d be super fun, even if it’s not the most optimal setup
This reminds me a lot of your scenario videos. Any chance you guys are going to do more of those? Maybe bring Josh’s competition experience as more “main” topic
Cheers guys. A fine aperitif for my Finnish Brutality binge this weekend 🤠👍
Good analysis, guys. Your videos are always insightful, informative, and fun.
I'm a Finnish scout sniper myself so I like to know what other people can do with weapons that are similar to that I myself are most likely to use in real situation.
Thank you, very educational.
Totally agree on the working on skills. The skill levels achieved by armies who trained to shot well compared to other armies who did not train as much been shown to have dividends many times.
However this would take a several hours of discussion to go into.
on the topic of the comment that you mentioned, I watch your videos to see what the rifles are capable of when someone with the proper experience uses it. it helps m understand the potential of the rifle and what it can do if I was to train and learn.
I feel it is strange to think “average” shooters would somehow translate into more useful information. They wouldn’t shoot as well. That is all we would learn. Higher skills, more training should, I would think make the pluses or minuses be easier to identify. Especially due to more consistent shooting.
I do some archery. If I haven’t practiced in a while I still shoot well enough but I am way less consistent. Also fatigue sets in quicker. Without those things effecting these guys as much I’d assume we get -more- reliable comparisons.
Besides military rifles are meant to be used by people who train with them. I can’t think of any value to be added by a noob.
Unless it was ease of use. In which case I suppose we would learn which gun to buy if we were suddenly going to war and planned on just lining people up and handing them out.
5:45 Love the NAFO patch. You're reaching levels of based that shouldn't even be possible.
+1 on the philosophy that everyone should strive for self improvement, and it is good to follow and aspire to equal or exceed those who are superior shooters, athletes, scholars, whatever.
That G3 y'all have is gorgeous
The FAL has a special place in my heart. It’s my favorite rifle
I would like to see henry and josh compete in Finnish brutality, but you each choose what rifle each other uses
I'm glad that I'm not the only one rocking a full battle rifle. I have changed some parts on my m1a standard and also put a scout mount on my 22" barrel with scout scope or red dot. It works great and is the lowest mount. I get 1 moa out of her .
I really enjoyed that video - like everyone you guys made! Just a little point on US vs EU houses: we are defending our houses since the roman times - we know how to build a defensive position 😈Greeting from Bavaria - sitting in a house, built in the 1700‘s
"He's running it in PUBG-mode" is the point where you absolutely had my upvote :D
I would love to see Josh and Henry compete at Finnish brutality. Hopefully it can happen!
As a German would take the Spuhr'ed G3 over any other rifle in this video.
The best of luck for Ian.
Ian as a NAFO Fella -- expansion is guaranteed.
Gross
#NAFOExpansionIsNonNegotiable
I checked out Polenar's video before watching this and I'm excited for the battlefield forensics you're gonna drop!
I appreciate your point at the end. I want to see what the absolute maximum performance of a weapon system by high end shooters. I really don't like to consider myself a "professional shooter" but I was an infantryman, and now I work in nuclear security where I'm paid to patrol with a rifle. Both have a level of competitiveness around our range scores and times on the ranges that involve running and clearing areas. I want a 1moa rifle to train with because I want to eliminate as many variables as possible so I knew every flyer in my grouping is due to something I am doing and can improved on. It's the same mind set of all the other top end shooters at my job. It's what's allowed to me to improve my shooting proficiency as quickly as possible because I was never thrown off by mechanical issues disguising themselves as technique issues when I was doing everything right. The other biggest driver of performance has been physical fitness. The fattest I've been was also the least accurate I've ever been. If your body is in shape every aspect of marksmanship will be easier to achieve.
Great video, you guys should do a video on what you guys would have taken if you were going to attend Finnish Brutality
The WWII GI dude had by far the most amazing kit.
Hope y'all are planning on going to the next Brutality match. That'd be a fun one.
Winter Brutality???🥶
I'm now motivated to do MOAR PT NOW!
100% agree with Henry & Josh...."you want to know the core potential of a firearm, so having a good shooter behind the firearm is ideal when testing on a range".
Any "Average Joe" can improve their shooting skills with some time & effort (training) practising shooting fundamentals.
Missed you fellas, good to see you back.
As a shooter and a regular viewer of your channel, I watch your contend BECAUSE of your great shooting skills. I want to know what all these guns are capable of. If an "regular" shooter shoots these tests, I do not know how the result came to be. If the person behinde the gun is very good at using guns in general (compensating for wind, weather, mirage and so on), then I, as a viewer, know what the GUN can or can not do. That is my view.
First of all I agree with you on keeping the bar high and improving yourself. Question for you both, what would your pack out be if you were going to Fininsh Brutality?
Pain killers
Because of my extreme personal bias... Rooting for Ian. Also like his gun the most.
Can disassemble and reassemble it with my eyes closed or asleep.
Idk what the comment said exactly but perhaps when talking about taking a variety of random shooters, they meant what Karl (InRangeTV) did with Primary & Secondary testing battle rifles
Delightfully entertaining content lads! So this is one for the algorithm.
Good on you Josh, you tell it like it is, no BS about your attitude. Don't let Henry bamboozle you.
Whole heartedly agree with Josh's last point on defeatism. Maybe it's just people rationalizing to themselves why they don't push themselves to improve.
Here's to seeing both of you at Finnish Brutality (or Winter Brutality!) in 2024.
Ref your comment on the "Skill of the shooter" when you 9 hole your rifles. I agree with you, the better the shot, the better we as viewers see the potential of the rifle.
It would be good to see you two guys competing in Finnish Brutality, I would love to see the gear out you would chose, perhaps maybe do a short on what you would choose, if you did have to compete, that would be interesting.
Great video as always.
Please do more Harry Chang skits 😂
As an 80's Aussie Army boi.... guess who I'll be backing? Ian and the G3 😄
In Brutality there's some concepts that favor the 7.62x51. One hit on target versus two with the 5.56 for instance. Weight of the arms and kit is an issue if you're running trooper and have to run 3km between each stage. Etc. Excuse me while I throw some kettlebells around and wish I was good enough.
5:41 Gotta love that NAFO patch
The one thing I don't understand is why Mike isn't running DPM Tropical, they'd be lighter and more comfortable but GOD 68 patt looks amazing and boots DMS are fantastic.
Thats the loadout I am reproducing next.
Wow, at least you had glasses on, Bloke. 😮
0:27 the name is phuk lon and dis bout to be brutal
you can push the limit of a firearm if you cant shoot 100 yards anyway. i love the fact that your a tac driver with irons out to 500. i kind of do like the idea of a normal shooter out on the range with you guys ( you can show the difference between skill which is more important than the rifle)
Good video!
Your little talk of the "average person shooting averagely"-thing got me thinking though... It *would* be nice to see... in the form of something like following regular Schmoe on their way to physical fitness, only this one would focus mostly on firearms & shooting proficiency :)
Because there, people from Column A get to see their average shooter maybe shooting a variety of guns, if nothing else to find out what works for them (great point to have a gun & gear review or two), and people from Column B would eventually (hopefully!) get to see their high-skill, low-drag shooter cleaning courses and scoring magnificent hits (great point to have a second review of the stuff from the earlier reviews, to talk about the differences and new perspectives) :)
I know what people are gonna reply to me: "Why don't *you* go do it?"
It's a fair question, but I'm hindered by two facts, namely, I'm a lazy-ass nerd with shaky hands who flinch at loud noises and have a hard time seeing even a short, very enjoyable video game to the end without losing focus and wanting to do something else, and the second hindrance being that I live in a country where you may only have a gun (as a civilian) if you actively shoot with a club (none around here and I don't have a car) or if you're a hunter (I'm a vegetarian) ^^;
ziga's cardio is getting roasted in those clips lmao!!
He was a beast and a beautiful sight running recon last year
Love this type of content and the Saiga looks sick
That trigger on Calvin's AUG doesn't look stock, but I might be mistaken from the low quality picture used. It's such a pain to get one here and some remove the drop safe feature. It doesn't matter much though. As much as I watched russell aka sinistral rifleman, skills around the stages matter the most besides stamina and conserving energy.
Well said in the conclusion; why strive for mediocrity.
I would love to see in addition to practical accuracy and the speedway, Josh run some of these historic pieces in close to mid range positional shooting, like those of finish brutality. Not as elaborate of course, but enough to showcase what these old warhorses are capable of. I think it would contribute greatly to the overall review of each rifle.
Ah yes, 9-Hole Gun Drip patrol :)
Great discussions as always. Towards the end got a lil bit heated but in a rightful way.
I remember competing in Finnish and Desert Brutality in '21. And by "competing" I mean "sat on my couch and ate pizza while watching them on UA-cam." :P
Finnish Brutality includes butt rubs? SWEET! I would love to see someone run a Dutch or Portuguese AR10 in one of these.
Your evaluations are very interesting, but have you ever participated in a Brutality Match?
Scope eye is a super tough mark to have as a proper rifleman. My heart goes out to BOTR.
Ian is really only excited to wear his favorite camo man dress.
I wish i could work with you guys. I would get along with all of you so well after seeing this side of you. Especially Calvin
For sheer drip no one can beat Ian’s facial hair
wait till you see what Mike (Bloke) did with his load out at the actual event. (see his IG for a sneak peek)
The absolute drip of the fal, especially with wood furniture
Regarding the commenter you mentioned. His viewpoint is the direct apposite of what you need for reviewing the performance of a firearm. I want scientific data, and removing the increased randomness of a mediocre trained shooter and replacing it with the consistency of a well trained shooter leads to a better view of the actual firearm. The only way to be better would be to take all the shots off of a rest, but that would be boring and not entertaining. Henry is consistent and provides an excellent baseline for these reviews.
Good video. Well done!
The Tao of Shooting. The original American martial art. Y'all should write the book on that!
Ian has hidden advantage of near zero probability of suffering a malfunction.
Well, guys that's life!
Great topic and video
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Very funny.
36:20 up to a point. There is an obvious value in displaying the full potential of a gun, but the potential when interacting with a low skill individual is also a vluable data, and sometime a pretty different one.
P.S. no comment on Fabian's set up?
I hope the outro was filmed with a decent Bordeaux. If not, I may have to reconsider watching these videos. Salut, and I'm English :-)
Might have to go and see the match.
I can’t lie and say I haven’t got the eye relief wrong and got a nice red ring for my trouble. It was a pretty good whack- 358 Winchester with 250 gr bullet out of a very light BLR.
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I'll go buy some slate black industries stuff so you guys can go next year ❤
5:45 BASED PATCH
Ian sounds like a Saturday morning cartoon character, LOL.
Next question; can you survive a Texas Brutality? (run and gun biathlon)