The Epcot Overhaul Is Completely Inadequate

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  • @oldmanloki
    @oldmanloki 9 місяців тому +260

    I believe you can summarize the issue with Disney Parks and Resorts succinctly: they're allocating profits to offset losses in other segments (such as films and streaming) instead of reinvesting in the parks and resorts.

    • @harryxyz2982
      @harryxyz2982 8 місяців тому +4

      They should put all the profits towards a Disneyland park expansion in Paris
      Since it’s been YEARS since the last one

    • @elphbwckd212
      @elphbwckd212 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@harryxyz2982no, they need to focus on Disney world in Florida. That park is trash and in major need of massive overhauls and expansions. Especially with Universal Epic opening three new, full worlds in Universal Orlando. Disney is so far behind in the US it's actually kind of baffling. Every foreign park is newer, more modern and just better than Disney world in Florida. They need to focus all park money on Disney world.

    • @timothybernardi68
      @timothybernardi68 4 місяці тому

      ​@@elphbwckd212I'm sorry, but Comcast has just offered the deepest ticket discounts on its original parks in UO history. Who's the desperate park operator?

  • @andrewtaylor940
    @andrewtaylor940 9 місяців тому +322

    Epcot, as the more Adult park really needs more adult attractions. And steer into the parks theming instead of Disney IP. Use the park to create new.

    • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
      @PelinalDidNothingWrong 9 місяців тому +12

      I agree. Honestly,Epcot bored me apart from Guardians and a few other rides

    • @andrewtaylor940
      @andrewtaylor940 9 місяців тому +18

      @PelinalDidNothingWrong I always thought Epcot would be perfect for an outdoor thrill coaster. Make it a splash coaster, call it "Hawaiin Roller Coaster" play the song and mix it in with the World Showcase.

    • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
      @PelinalDidNothingWrong 9 місяців тому +3

      ​@@andrewtaylor940 Yeah! That'd be good

    • @SupermarketSweep777
      @SupermarketSweep777 9 місяців тому +15

      This is my issue with Disney. I would love to go back as I only ever went once as a kid, but they really lack older appeal and the prices are insane now. I live in PA and could hit at least 8 amusement parks in or neighboring my state for less money. And some are amongst the biggest dogs in the amusement park industry.

    • @lonesoul663
      @lonesoul663 8 місяців тому +5

      Disney is it too inept and park visitors are too narrow minded to think of anything that isn't IP in origin.

  • @pumpkinking446
    @pumpkinking446 9 місяців тому +167

    Compared to what was originally promised, the overhaul is pathetic. Glad there are at least some channels out there not afraid to point it out.

  • @Southeastern_Thrills
    @Southeastern_Thrills 9 місяців тому +470

    It's a shame that Disney just keeps on destroying the vision of their parks. At least for EPCOT, I wish Disney would add more rides that are fully themed to science, technology, and different civilizations with no IPs. I would prefer more attractions that have a similar thrill level to Mission Space and Test Track.

    • @connork8984
      @connork8984 9 місяців тому +55

      Agreed. Technology, science, and culture is what makes EPCOT what it is. They need to reconnect with that central idea.

    • @laughythaklown7661
      @laughythaklown7661 9 місяців тому +26

      And if they did add more ips, i'd like it to add to the edutainment idea that the park originally was

    • @Caderic
      @Caderic 8 місяців тому +6

      "...themed to science, technology, and different civilizations with no IPs" Yep!

    • @timothybernardi68
      @timothybernardi68 8 місяців тому +1

      And yet the crowds keep.on showing up.

    • @Caderic
      @Caderic 8 місяців тому +2

      @@timothybernardi68 But do they? The numbers are actually down significantly.

  • @grayrabbit2211
    @grayrabbit2211 8 місяців тому +48

    Another problem is when Disney removes/revamps attractions, they go from being 15-30 minutes long down to 2-3 minutes long... so you get to waste 90 minutes for a whopping 2 minutes of an underwhelming ride.

    • @timothybernardi68
      @timothybernardi68 4 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, the new Donkey Kong attraction planned for Epic Universe lasts 75 seconds. Your complaints are not about Disney's attractions. They're about theme parks attractions.

  • @adrianalvarez9130
    @adrianalvarez9130 9 місяців тому +97

    Honestly they can finally open up the German Pavilion Boat ride cause it can add more capacity to Epcot and the more that they add can help with that issue

    • @sydneyvawter
      @sydneyvawter 9 місяців тому +16

      or even the Fuji coaster in Japan (a girl can hope lol)

    • @timothybernardi68
      @timothybernardi68 4 місяці тому

      ​@@sydneyvawterThe opened the Cosmic Rewind coaster.

  • @pblmrt
    @pblmrt 9 місяців тому +69

    I always thought the overhaul felt unnecessary even from the beginning. Sure it's outdated but what makes Epcot interesting is the science and exploring different lands. Disneyland for example is charming because it keeps the old and pressuring it. Now it's just IP heavy and whatever the next big thing when Epcot is the opposite.

  • @randomusernameCallin
    @randomusernameCallin 9 місяців тому +49

    Poseidon Entertainment did a great video about how a good number of the original attractions were more timeless but many of the changes allowed it to become outdated.
    Epcot needs is a large area that outside organizations can demonstrate and that area need to be easily changed.

  • @ChouhouinNeko
    @ChouhouinNeko 9 місяців тому +36

    as a teen growing up back in the late 90s to my early adult hood in the 2000s epcot was my favorite disney park. I haven't returned since 2007 when they started forcing ips in ruining what i loved

  • @ThemePark_Nerdo
    @ThemePark_Nerdo 9 місяців тому +95

    Look what they’ve done to my safe haven…

  • @MathieuLeblanc1991
    @MathieuLeblanc1991 9 місяців тому +330

    My biggest problem is honestly that 90% of the characters vanish after 3pm, Epcot is a half day park for me so it’s sad when only four characters are around after the afternoon

    • @arex9000
      @arex9000 9 місяців тому +26

      Then you are doing Epcot wrong

    • @JustAnIssac
      @JustAnIssac 9 місяців тому +54

      @@arex9000 There shouldn't be a wrong way to enjoy a theme park

    • @Afineaddition
      @Afineaddition 9 місяців тому +6

      It's a widespread problem. Universal closes much earlier nowadays.

    • @MathieuLeblanc1991
      @MathieuLeblanc1991 9 місяців тому +2

      @@Afineaddition Oh really, I haven’t been since 2010 since Harry Potter soured it for me. I do want to go again just to see the new characters. How bad is it character wise ? Do they close at like noon- 1pm ?

    • @Afineaddition
      @Afineaddition 9 місяців тому +2

      @@MathieuLeblanc1991 unsure about characters, but the parks have been closing at 6 on weekdays

  • @ye11owflower
    @ye11owflower 8 місяців тому +21

    You can’t just give me a Mary Poppins themed area and then take it away from me just like that 😭

  • @calebgivens4884
    @calebgivens4884 9 місяців тому +22

    And the test track retheming will close it for at least a year, meaning even one less ride 😅

  • @cmarcduncan
    @cmarcduncan 8 місяців тому +13

    They (Disney) removed the Future world iconic area music that has been there since it opened in '80. I am so sad that they removed it. Going to Epcot and hearing that wonderful background music always brought a wave of nostalgia. I may never return there.

  • @supremefan
    @supremefan 9 місяців тому +36

    As an adult that loves coasters Guardians is the only thing bringing me to the park and I won't come back until it's off virtual line only. The only way to make Epcot what it should be is by finishing the Mountain coaster it was supposed to have long ago. Every park should have 2 coasters or at least something on the level of a coaster (Indiana Jones, etc). i for one am not going to Epcot for long food/drink lines when I can easily get drunk at the hotel jacuzzi for half the price with a waiter (Lowes Hotels).

  • @Barsoom1913
    @Barsoom1913 2 місяці тому +1

    As for the hub. Construction crews themselves have claimed that Disney really just “paid them to move dirt around” and “the job was rushed and it seemed like the company just wanted to finish things” The hub looks like a corporate office park and even more boring than what was there before

  • @ryandefranco7740
    @ryandefranco7740 8 місяців тому +14

    When I first saw Journey of Water, my jaw dropped….
    With disappointment.

  • @stevecolianni1499
    @stevecolianni1499 8 місяців тому +24

    Disney's reliance on the trackless technology has really hurt it. The trackless technology cannot replicate the kinetic energy of traditional track and gimbal-based track style dark rides to allow for any level of thrill. Runaway railway and ratatouille are essentially the same thing. Rise of the resistance works b/c of the kinetic elements. They need to abandon it and pivot. The trackless system cannot replicate kinetic or G-forces bc the lack of a track.

    • @shinyagumon7015
      @shinyagumon7015 4 місяці тому +1

      I feel like the system also isn't utilised to its full potential.
      Like why are Rise of the Resistence or Runaway Railway trackless? Does it offer any advantages over a more traditional ride system?
      I feel like a lot of trackless rides are trackless for the sake of it being the new big thing instead of being designed around it, like the executives are so impressed by the "no visible track" part they forget that noone really cares if they can see the track or not.

  • @SpectacularWebHead
    @SpectacularWebHead 9 місяців тому +19

    Disney open the Play Pavilion and add at least 2 more attractions in WS!!!

  • @dannardozza7344
    @dannardozza7344 8 місяців тому +7

    The huge issue with Disney is serious shortage of rides that people want to go on. It manufactures these fake 90 min wait times, for $100.00 per day it is not at all worth it. They need like double the rides to compete. Scenery is 10/10, ride amount is 4/10. And barely any thrills.

  • @TooningIn2008
    @TooningIn2008 9 місяців тому +15

    When Chapek announced his goals for Epcot, among them was updating it whilst staying true to the OG vision and themes of the park. He and Iger failed to deliver on their promises, to no one’s surprise. None of the new Epcot stuff has anything to do with the park. And that new stuff isn’t even all that substantial. It’s a clone of a ride that’s only an E Ticket because of the park it was first introduced to (Remy), a crappy coaster (Guardians), and some greenery
    Truly Timeless

  • @TheItachiIshtar
    @TheItachiIshtar 9 місяців тому +17

    The most outdated thing at Epcot continues to be the current version of Journey into Imagination. Epcot had this huge overhaul, and yet that attraction remains stuck in the early 2000s. My theory is that they don't want to get rid of having a Figment ride entirely due to his popularity, but at the same time they don't want to invest in giving him a long overdue update. Apparently Disney pitched an Inside Out attraction as a potential replacement, but Pete Docter rejected it due to not wanting Figment gone.

    • @bexstudioz731
      @bexstudioz731 8 місяців тому +1

      King behavior honestly. There shouldn’t have to be a fight between the old and the new. Not gonna lie though, Inside Out ride would fix all 3 problems in the video, but maybe instead of replacing the classic figment, use the Play Pavillion space if the plans ended up being cancelled.

    • @TheItachiIshtar
      @TheItachiIshtar 8 місяців тому +2

      @@bexstudioz731 If anything, they should have repurposed what they had left of Cranium Command into an Inside Out attraction. It’s pretty much the same concept, so it would have been perfect. Pete Docter had even worked on both.

    • @bexstudioz731
      @bexstudioz731 7 місяців тому

      @@TheItachiIshtar yeah the play pavilion is on the old Cranium Command space so you and I are on the same page

  • @robertoso8796
    @robertoso8796 9 місяців тому +8

    if illuminations was better than the fireworks shows that replaced it then it's just shrinkflation: they are giving you less for the same price (in disney's case charging more.)

  • @Brandon-qd2lb
    @Brandon-qd2lb 9 місяців тому +21

    It’s painful but they needed more rides at the park and it’s time to get out of the 90s with updates to their popular attractions. The new rides still draw the crowds no matter how bad they are. Nothing wrong with alternating between family and adult attractions. Could be a part 2 to this overhaul so we’ll see. What’s the hold up for the China show replacement?

  • @spyr0guy
    @spyr0guy 9 місяців тому +3

    Man, am I thankful I got to experience Disney World when it was still good. Last time I went, they were still doing FP+ instead of Genie / Lightning Lane, and the very first time I went, they had disability passes that were essentially auto-FP for everything (for guests of all ages who were unable to wait in line due to physical or psychological reasons). Those were gone by our next visit because disabled people would "rent themselves out" to other families so they could skip lines. This is why we can't have nice things, folks.

  • @joedavenport5293
    @joedavenport5293 8 місяців тому +3

    Epcot needs to go back to the original vision Walt had for it, which was to entertain AND educate. Attractions that highlight renewable/green energy, environmental stewardship, robotics and science should have been added. An attraction that showed how animatronics are designed, developed and implemented would have been perfect. And if they wanted to sprinkle in some IP Moana could have been integrated with an attraction than highlighted water conservation. Guardians could have gone in over at Studios and Frozen should be at the Magic Kingdom.

  • @CynicalBeard
    @CynicalBeard 9 місяців тому +7

    Great take on EPCOT! It’s one of my favorite parks. To me, it didn’t seem to change much. Cosmic Rewind is awesome, LuminoUS is something, and the canceled projects were needed. (Side note, the monorail still talks about the play pavilion upcoming)

  • @cuttinol
    @cuttinol 9 місяців тому +13

    I think each pavilion should have an attraction. Though I'm glad we didn't get the teacups in England, that to me would've been more disappointing than having nothing

    • @beneciotheperson
      @beneciotheperson 5 місяців тому

      China I don't think has enough room for an attraction. Right behind it is the dock for World Showcase and the main cast member dressing building.

    • @DesigningDisney
      @DesigningDisney 4 місяці тому

      @@beneciothepersonthat can be moved to another spot, there is a lot of open space around Epcot. They should put a dragon roller coaster behind there using Reflections of China as a pre show

  • @sideeswipe
    @sideeswipe 3 місяці тому +1

    The main problem with the overhaul is that they spent all that money to take the ride count from 10 to 11 rides whereas the animal kingdom expansion took the park from 7 to 9 rides and Hollywood studios from 6 to 9 rides. Obviously quantity isn’t everything and epcot had the second most amount of rides at Disney world regardless but the overhaul didn’t actually improve any of the existing rides besides mission space adding the green version. Rides like spaceship earth and journey into imagination desperately needed updates and nemo, gran fiesta tour and living with the land could’ve used some love as well

  • @samplautz5586
    @samplautz5586 7 місяців тому +1

    I just went to orlando for the first time this weekend, and went to universal. I was absolutely stunned at how amazing it was. When I went on spiderman, i couldnt get over how insanely good that ride was, and i was shocked that it was built in 1999

  • @heathermclaren9901
    @heathermclaren9901 9 місяців тому +21

    The Epcot 'overhaul' really is shockingly lame; minimal and depressing. The Moana water path is lovely, but should not have taken all this work; to take one example the Bellagio in Vegas turns around a similar walkthrough garden multiple times a year. It should not have taken so many years for Disney to plant a garden and build two rides (one of which was a clone.)
    Disney has put themselves in a position where they are using the Parks to offset their loses in streaming, and therefore cannot spend any real money to improve or maintain their most consistent financial winner, WDW.
    Meanwhile, Universal played it very safe with streaming, barely putting any money into Peacock, and instead has gone all in on park expansion. While everyone else wastes billions fighting over who will be the last one standing in streaming, Universal will be raking in a higher and higher share of park money.
    I made fun of Peacock back when it launched, but in hindsight Universal made the right move.

  • @ZorroVulpes
    @ZorroVulpes 8 місяців тому +5

    It used to be that just Hollywood Studios was the movie themed park and now they're all movie themed. Disney specifically did not build rides based on any of his movies when he first opened Disneyland for a reason. He wanted the parks to be their own IPs that stood on their own. When Disney started making movies about rides to retroactively make the rides about movies (pirates, haunted mansion, etc.) is when they forgot this idea.

  • @illusionsmage
    @illusionsmage 9 місяців тому +10

    Saw this had 999 views and was hoping there was room for 1000

  • @joey_cordova_
    @joey_cordova_ 9 місяців тому +6

    They also opened that new space themed restaurant 🤷‍♂️.
    It’s crazy to see how Disney went from being the leaders in innovation of entertainment to a let’s wait see mentality. Then, when they do something it’s on a scaled down budget of what was originally planned.
    I plan on going to Epcot this September while I’m in town for HHN at Universal. I haven’t been to Epcot in yeeeeeears. Mostly because it was boring as hell.

  • @wyldebill4178
    @wyldebill4178 9 місяців тому +19

    Will we ever get another World Showcase pavilion?

    • @Jordan13299
      @Jordan13299 9 місяців тому +4

      I’m surprised we haven’t gotten South Korea yet.

    • @sauronthegreat5799
      @sauronthegreat5799 8 місяців тому +1

      No room left to add anymore pavilions

    • @DesigningDisney
      @DesigningDisney 4 місяці тому

      @@sauronthegreat5799there’s enough to put 7-12 pavilions

  • @504ever4
    @504ever4 8 місяців тому +3

    I can't stand how about a third of the indoor section of the Updated Hub is an enormous Starbucks.

  • @LoveTruth86
    @LoveTruth86 8 місяців тому +3

    Moana felt like it should have been in Animal kingdom. It would be nice as a queue.

  • @jshplock
    @jshplock 8 місяців тому +2

    All this promise and all we got was a copy of a EuroDisney ride a thematically out of place GoTG coaster (not that Disney cares about THEME in their THEME parks anymore) and a standard city park as a “hub”. The amount of missed potential is enough to make one weep.

  • @logancole6000
    @logancole6000 7 місяців тому +1

    Rides like Spaceship Earth need massive refurbishment too. That’s one of my favorite rides and the animatronics were so clunky the last time I rode it and it broke down twice.

  • @jabba108
    @jabba108 9 місяців тому +36

    Every country in Epcot should have a ride or updated attraction

    • @assemblyrequired7342
      @assemblyrequired7342 9 місяців тому +7

      I just had an idea: a roller coaster for each "country", designed by a coaster company from that very country of origin. Ah, if only TOGO was still around... They'd make a ride that would make Mission Space seem tame in comparison.

    • @reteledman
      @reteledman 9 місяців тому +4

      I have an idea: how about creating brand new coasters for all or most countries that have elements that country is unique to that country, or just originated from the country. Example: Norway’s coaster could include a Norwegian Loop, like Speed Monster at Tusenfryd, or The UK’s coaster could have a Bent Cuban Eight, like the one that was present on the now-defunct G-Force at Drayton Manor. Just an idea I had.

    • @assemblyrequired7342
      @assemblyrequired7342 8 місяців тому +1

      @@reteledman Cedar-Point/Six Flags and Universal, move over! Because you have competition!
      Ah, we can dream, can't we?

    • @someguitardude8462
      @someguitardude8462 8 місяців тому +6

      For real. As a mexican, I can say: Who the actual fuck cares about the Three Caballeros? They did one of the best representations of mexican culture ever put to non-mexican film in the form of Coco, yet refuse to update that fucking snooze fest of a ride.

  • @dudeinadoughboy4327
    @dudeinadoughboy4327 8 місяців тому +2

    To me the replacing of the fireworks show seems like a cost saving measure. Fireworks are expensive. Knowing Disney thats probably something they thought they could save a buck on

  • @HyperSonicSquall
    @HyperSonicSquall 8 місяців тому +1

    ive lived in florida all my life and been to epcot 3 times. i literally can not see it as anything more than "that place you go to for school field trips"

  • @ZontarDow
    @ZontarDow 8 місяців тому +2

    I find it odd how every 10 years they contenplate bringing Matterhorn Bobsled to a Switzerland pavilion or make a clone themed ti Mount Fuji for the Japan pavilion yet they haven't actually done it after 40 years of contemplation.

  • @Floridapanthers2020
    @Floridapanthers2020 9 місяців тому +3

    I would love to see a video like this but with the Hollywood studios overhaul because I think it is a valid discussion for what it replaced or if it is better. Much love keep doing what you doing

  • @thecar4306
    @thecar4306 4 місяці тому +1

    why r u complaining its not family friendly thats a good thing to have more adult parks

  • @corycoral7072
    @corycoral7072 6 місяців тому +1

    You left out other cuts. We lost the update to the ride inside the ball and the changed exit, the fact they tore down one of the wings of the entrance to build a new building…. THEN REBUILT THE SAME GOD DAMN BUILDING AND CANCELED THE NEW ONE. SO adding both of these to the list says a lot tbh. There was also the rumor that hall way through they would have announced an update to the Mexico ride.

  • @jaygarner2977
    @jaygarner2977 4 місяці тому +1

    The overhaul just seems haphazard. Lacks flow, symmetry. I have to say the updates made to buildings that stayed is really nice, but they flopped huge on the replacement for fountain of nations. The walt statue is nice, but when the trees grow and mature, he wont be able to see the lake through them. Sad to see them waste so much money. Need a real master plan with a master theme, then stick to it even if it takes a decade to implement. I anticipate a rip/replace coming soon.

  • @LeanMrfuzzles
    @LeanMrfuzzles 8 місяців тому +3

    Disney’s priorities are so out of whack. Yes let’s announce all these changes for a park that desperately needs them, cancel or cut down half of them and then retheme a ride 99% of people had zero issue with in a different park because it makes us look good in the current social climate. Oh and let’s take an astronomical amount of time to do all of this when our parks are pulling in record profit.

  • @BoardGameClub
    @BoardGameClub 8 місяців тому +2

    The DuckTales game in the World Showcase is family friendly, but they don’t advertise it and it’s the same app and components as 2009s KimPossible just reskinned.

  • @jaimeerindy4573
    @jaimeerindy4573 9 місяців тому +4

    I'd never been to EPCOT in my life until I finally decided to go last summer and man... that park is a mess. The fact that I have to pay a full Disney Theme Park ticket price just to walk in the door, where all there is to do is spend more $ for food and drink is ridiculous. I did enjoy the Seas & the Gaurdians ride, but I didn't even bother trying to get on Frozen or Ratatouille because the lines were insane. The festival food was fun I guess, but again not worth the price of admission. It's sad bc my fiance thought I'd enjoy EPCOT because I love food & drink & travel, so in theory it sounds perfect, but I hate that you have to spend so much added money on top of your ticket price, and then there's nothing in there but cheap trinkets that barely mean anything to the actual culture. Personally I think they need to go completely back to the drawing board with EPCOT and figure out what they actually want it to be.

  • @Anthony_Smith365
    @Anthony_Smith365 9 місяців тому +2

    It just makes me wonder what disney will do once Epic Universe opens. Because it kinda feels like they blew their whole load with this "Overhaul."

  • @chrisose
    @chrisose 3 місяці тому

    I watch a small part of a video by a former Imagineer that "explained" the Communicore referb as being designed as a multi-functional space primarily for handling the "numerous festivals held at EPCOT." This explains why is has all the charm and interest of the countless multi-use meeting spaces at hotels across the country.
    The imagination in Imagineering has been made redundant by the corporate management at the Disney Company.
    I count myself lucky to have been able to spend quite a bit of time in Magic Kingdom and EPCOT in the late 70's and early 80's when the vision of Walt still had meaning in the company. Today there is precious little of Walt Disney left in the Disney company.

  • @CdA_Native
    @CdA_Native 8 місяців тому +2

    "INADEQUATE"
    Adjective - "Lacking the quality required; insufficient for the purpose".
    Also see: "Disney management".

  • @nicholasmarshall9128
    @nicholasmarshall9128 9 місяців тому +4

    Interesting that Universal Studios had higher attendance than Islands of Adventure in 2023 even though Islands is by far the better of the two universal parks (and not under construction at the moment)

    • @jaydenchrist6152
      @jaydenchrist6152 8 місяців тому

      That's probably because of Halloween Horror Nights and Mardi Gras.

    • @metallicnole4514
      @metallicnole4514 5 місяців тому

      And let’s not pretend universal is above reproach. How they have neglected the og universal park and completely changed its identity is just as egregious as anything Disney had done. As a fan of classic universal, I’m more disappointed with that than anything at Disney

  • @WeekdayWeekend
    @WeekdayWeekend 8 місяців тому

    I loved Epcot when i visited in 2014. At the time, I was a teenager. It was nice to go somewhere that was more adult-oriented compared to the rest of the parks. Less children yelling and screaming, more things that adults are interested in. Removing that, to me, endures the parents will be at boiling point by the time they leave their vacation.

  • @stacybehrens7152
    @stacybehrens7152 8 місяців тому +1

    Epcot back in the 80s was pretty magical. Futuristic and educational. Rode Spaceship Earth last year and it hasn’t changed AT ALL. Wildly out of date and the effects are a joke by modern standards. Kind of representative of the rest of the problems in the park. Unfocused and mostly not a fresh experience. Still fun but could be sooooo much better.

  • @There_Will_Be_Goals
    @There_Will_Be_Goals 9 місяців тому +7

    Would love to see a video about what you think could potentially replace simpsons land at Universal. Rumors are that it will closed later this year

    • @jonathanwallis3300
      @jonathanwallis3300 9 місяців тому +1

      The biggest rumor I keep hearing is Pokémon.

    • @LChatmanFL
      @LChatmanFL 9 місяців тому

      I believe he did do a video... I think.

    • @grayrabbit2211
      @grayrabbit2211 8 місяців тому +1

      Anything would be better at this point...even Back to the Future would be better.

  • @ParkMind
    @ParkMind 9 місяців тому +4

    All things considered I feel like this was a net zero gain for the park. When can we have EPCOT 3.0 there are still several areas that need to be improved

    • @jemm113
      @jemm113 9 місяців тому +2

      The park needs a huge expansion, I think there’s enough space for a whole second ring of world pavilions, and/or space for more rides
      But wow we REALLY needed that play pavilion! Like it could have an arcade like Tomorrowland once had that featured state-of-the-art game devs and tech showcases!

  • @leq6992
    @leq6992 8 місяців тому +1

    They really dropped the ball by not building the elevated building/park area. That would have been amazing, amd putting a greenspace up there with a new fountain would have been the most innovative thing Disney has done in decades, and totally unique.
    Should have known it wouldnt ever come to fruition.

  • @nathan3252
    @nathan3252 8 місяців тому +1

    Blame this one on crappy chappie. Chapek cut a lot of the budget because he wanted to spend it on other projects so he cut corners every chance he could. The result is a disaster that is still being cleaned up after all his mistakes.

  • @MrHaaspaul
    @MrHaaspaul 4 місяці тому +1

    EPCOT needs to go back to being a permanent Worlds Fair like in the beginning…….with corporations sponsoring different Pavilions helping the cost like GM’s Test Track. It would also be more “Family Friendly”

  • @100lovenana
    @100lovenana 8 місяців тому +1

    Epcot never needed to be "Family-Friendly", it already was!! As a kid I adored the attractions, both on World Showcase and in Future World. How it tackled a bit more mature subjects than the rest of the parks was exactly what made it special and its attractive quality. Making it "more family friendly" was just Disney's excuse to slap their film IP's onto everything and completely ruining the technological and worldwide aspect of Epcot that made it special in the first place

  • @dougs7132
    @dougs7132 9 місяців тому +4

    Good evaluation in my opinion 👍🏻

  • @Foxy967
    @Foxy967 8 місяців тому +1

    I’d also argue that Remy’s Ratatouille Adventure did not actually help capacity, as the area (forgot which one) is now more congested as ever, and walking to the attraction feels like Diagon Alley done bad; it’s too cramped and overcrowded

  • @wesalex19
    @wesalex19 8 місяців тому +1

    The Disney management really didn't address the issues put forth in this video. They forget that they need to attract and please the consumer. But more and more they are destroying what Epcot was suppose to be. Sure, the Play Pavilion would have been something needed, but more rides and more attractions are needed. The enhancement of Spaceship Earth was canceled and IT is about all that remains of Future World. This needs to be done. As for rides at the various countries, an Alpine Bobsled should be added to Germany, instead of Poppins, bring in King Arthur (Sword in the Stone), Alladin and His Magic Carpet at Morocco. Additionally, a new country with a ride (Brazil, India and maybe Russia) is needed. I would get rid of Frozen in Norway, and rename it Scandanavia. Here I would expand the pavilion to feature Asgard and the Nine Realms. (Not Marvel)
    As for Future World --- drop the pretense. Future World it is not. Instead call it Discovery Land. Create a new attraction -- Imagining Horizons at the Imagination Pavilion - combining the two with NEW ideas. At Sea and Land, bring in reimagined Journey to the Center of the Earth and 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. Keep the Mission to Mars but add a visit to a Black Hole. The Play Pavilion should still be added and the enhancement of Spaceship Earth should also go forward.
    More fixes need to be done to update the park, but Disney fails to realize that Epic Universe at Universal is going to make it THE MAIN ATTRACTION in Orlando. Disney has not concentrated on what is important and seems to treat WDW at a stepchild with Shanghai, Europe and Disneyland getting new rides and attractions. WDW gets the least attention. We don't need more hotels and vacation clubs. WDW needs attractions at ALL 4 Parks. A fifth park is NOT needed. Build out what one has. All have the space to do so, even Hollywood Studios (I see a huge wasted Parking Area that could be build into parking garages) Use the same type of garages that you used for Downtown Disney.
    Maybe the management is punishing Florida due to its politics. That is very short-sided. It has already hurt its Florida Residence Annual Passholder program. This was a good source of revenue. Also, staying in property is not the big deal it once was. Bring in free breakfast like surrounding establishments. Riding the buses can't be the only benefit. Besides, rooms outside Disney are bigger and more attractive and family friendly. Wallpaper featuring Disney Characters does not make for a better room. Instead of working on political agendas, maybe the Disney Imagineers can once again imagine REAL experiences for the public who visit and pay good money for entertainment.

  • @EyeofG
    @EyeofG 8 місяців тому +1

    Grew up loving Epcot with Back to the Future and then Original Test track before they changed for the worst. All the best and most original rides are pretty much have been stripped away from the park completely, where the ones that are still round are on their last legs.
    Epcot WAS the family friendly and even educational back in the 90s but no longer. Disney has no idea what to do with Epcot anymore and it shows sadly. Not sure why they couldnt give each country in the world showcase its own small ride and make them fun and educational like the old Norway one was before Frozen took over.
    Love the fact that they were just throwing random IPs of theirs into Epcot just to see if it would get any more people to go there instead of Magic Kingdom or Hollywood studios which are both Over capacity and overcrowded nowadays.
    Epcot is in bad shape but nothing compared to Hollywood studios or Magic Kingdom. Imagine having rides that they haven't been updated since the 1960s & they refuse to update them or change any of the outdated ride systems or even try and redesign the horrible line systems that were made for a 1960s crowd, not 2024. Clearly genie plus system is a cash grab for a Desperate company that has wasted It's time and money thinking its a proper movie studio instead of a massive theme park supporting the movies it makes and not the other way around.

  • @mystreteacher
    @mystreteacher 7 місяців тому

    "Water" on a busy, hot day is fantastic. Much different experience then a slower, colder, rainier day. The overhaul itself is "OK, whatever" and it took way too long. They really wanted to get away from putting creative energy and money into Innoventions.

  • @jbones405
    @jbones405 6 місяців тому +1

    Them updating space ship earth died as well. Disney has a habit of just half-assing things lately, they’ll drastically raise prices but we don’t see much in return.

  • @4541studios
    @4541studios 8 місяців тому +2

    So...in your mind, the trashing of splash mountain for a Tiana ride that has nothing to do with princess and the frog cuz its "new lore" is a good thing? Tiana being demoted from princess to factory owner is a good thing?

  • @chromxrobinandcorrinxcamil9031
    @chromxrobinandcorrinxcamil9031 3 місяці тому

    We truly needed EPCOT City...

  • @Ironswiftness
    @Ironswiftness 6 місяців тому +1

    They need to go back and improve the omnimover style ride vehicle like spaceship earth uses where the constantly moving train makes the line move quick and contain a lot of folks. The trackless vehicles are neat and all but not a huge improvment in experience compared to omnimover, and their capacity sucks.

  • @ColbyEwert
    @ColbyEwert 8 місяців тому +1

    i enjoy your videos. claiming that guardians is just a "solid" atraction is a wild take tho

  • @ddc163264
    @ddc163264 8 місяців тому +1

    The last part of this video is the telling part. It used to be that Disney had the top FIVE parks. Then came the two Universal parks and then it was DCA. Now Universal is the #2 and #4. With Epic coming soon, They may take #'s 2, 3 and 4. If corporate disney keeps raising prices, hopefully Universal will finally take the #1 spot and then all bets are off on the "success" of corporate disney parks in the future. The king will have not only been dethrone, but maybe dying as well. That's why Iger and corporate disney are putting out all these lie in the sky lies about new lands and such. Nothing is coming and they're not spending that money. Just replacing the almost $30 billion that they already cut from the parks. Something that all the pixie duster sites have completely forgotten about.

  • @anthonysap
    @anthonysap 9 місяців тому +1

    Your videos are very well done, well said, and informative. As a thrill seeker on a budget, I don't get to visit Disney (ever). These videos show me that I'm not really missing out on too much for my tastes. I'll be at Universal :)

  • @charlesintune
    @charlesintune 9 місяців тому +1

    Great informative video! Heres hoping for a new Journey into Imagination..

  • @darkridedan1
    @darkridedan1 8 місяців тому

    Projects that needed to be addressed prior to 2020:
    1. Update Spaceship Earth
    2. Refurbish/ bring back Imagination 1.0
    3. Build New Horizons
    Projects not addressed post 2020
    1. See above
    Projects that would have addressed outdated, capacity and family-friendliness
    1. See above
    Gotta love big corporate micro management.

  • @IAmMiami
    @IAmMiami 9 місяців тому +1

    The worst thing about Ellen's was how the line moved, long walk every 10 min. Made it feel slow.
    Looking forward to the TT reno.

  • @Themersive
    @Themersive 9 місяців тому +7

    They need to protect American Adventure at all costs.
    Disney is not being run by anyone with love for Walt, nor do they have any sort of sense whatsoever.

  • @jean-claudelol563
    @jean-claudelol563 8 місяців тому +1

    How can you spend so much time and money on remodeling the park and get next to nothing out of it. What a waste!

  • @toTheWatcher
    @toTheWatcher 9 місяців тому +5

    Mostly agree, was recently there in Dec '23, but I feel ratatouille is a decent addition that doesn't feel that outdated and was great for family. Epcot was fun to walk around, but i might skip it for a few years as it definitely still needs more work to even compare to the other parks.

  • @deezulboy
    @deezulboy 8 місяців тому

    You can basically take every logo off off of the screen at the end and just put a big Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind logo instead because that is the only positive addition to the park since the 'overhaul' began.

  • @JCBro-yg8vd
    @JCBro-yg8vd 8 місяців тому

    It really feels like Disney would benefit from adding a fifth park to Disney World so they can just cram in all the IPs they so shamelessly want to plug, all the while they're ignoring so many other IPs and aren't even thinking about whether those IPs could make for good attractions. Star Wars, Pixar, Marvel, you could build entire theme parks out of just those companies portoflios, and people would happily go to them.

  • @Dxtuned
    @Dxtuned 8 місяців тому +2

    The main problem is that Mission Space still exists

  • @slob5041
    @slob5041 7 місяців тому

    Epcot is kind of like the piggy bank you take from, and then realize nothing is there when you need it

  • @jonny-b4954
    @jonny-b4954 9 місяців тому +2

    I dont get why they dont add some themed flats. Like throw 3 or 4 in one year. Actually truly boost capacity. As long as theyre decently themed theyll work at Disney. Epcot shouldnt have IPs though, if you ask me. Should be themed to you know, THE WORLD and sciences. 14:20 shit, thats an hour line for food. All the parks are just too busy. Cant enjoy myself anymore.

  • @thechosenone5644
    @thechosenone5644 8 місяців тому +2

    50 years from now everything will be the same except Disney will be on its tenth test track iteration

  • @JustinCoasters
    @JustinCoasters 9 місяців тому +6

    16:00 Wasn't Spaceship Earth also supposed to get revamped?

    • @Spindash54
      @Spindash54 8 місяців тому +1

      And the Hub design was COMPLETELY different, with an elevated platform space at the front of the lagoon.

  • @BrendanHenigan
    @BrendanHenigan 28 днів тому

    Along with the unsolved problems, EPCOT has a new problem: Lack of Shade. The "Central Hub" has NO trees or shading tarps, making it unbearably hot during summer days w/ no overcast.

  • @AerynKDesigns
    @AerynKDesigns 8 місяців тому

    I only went to DW once in 2013, and I have to say unfortunately my main memory is the time that husband and I wasted in "attractions" that turned into meet and greets. Zero shade on anyone that enjoys them, but I find the experience very upsetting due to my social anxiety, and husband is the same. It's just not something we want to participate in and like there was just not enough clear signage of "this isn't a ride" for when we went "oh, that's something Disneyland doesn't have, let's do that", it seemed to be a meet and greet line or an "experience" of just standing in place like the Pirates thing.

  • @Barsoom1913
    @Barsoom1913 2 місяці тому +1

    I dislike Guardians of Galaxy being in Epcot. I can’t vouch for how good it is because I haven’t been on it, but it looks so out of place for the area and unless they plan on expanding the park and adding the Avengers campus here it’s going to look and feel out of place.

  • @Charlieunited1
    @Charlieunited1 4 місяці тому

    Remy's Epcot ride is different that the one in Paris, it has improvements

  • @Barsoom1913
    @Barsoom1913 2 місяці тому

    I disagree with the ratatouille ride being “outdated” but I completely agree with it being boring. However it only seemingly addresses the capacity issue. Honestly it’s a ok ride in general but not worth the 2 hour wait it can have. The ride regularly breaks down (just like Rise does) and along with not having a lot of ride seating or several other rides in the area the line can easily stagnate

  • @jasmine-rose18
    @jasmine-rose18 9 місяців тому +1

    They need to hire new people. I feel like the teams they have managing new ideas have either been in their current roles way too long or have outdated ideas and are ruining their potential growth. They have such amazing IP and they throw it in the garbage. It’s so frustrating

  • @jfgibson73
    @jfgibson73 8 місяців тому

    I thought Guardians was really intense. I was legit stressed.

  • @Jw4be
    @Jw4be 8 місяців тому

    Honestly. I like harmonious MUCH more than the new show. The soundtrack was so much better

  • @sandraparolie7179
    @sandraparolie7179 8 місяців тому

    No one who love's Disney was complaining about it being outdated (IMO) I would take my family every year from 1994-2016 and we had park hopper Plus (which includes water parks) we were excited to go to EVERY Show and Ride that we went to EVERY YEAR.... The magic is gone... We're done 🫣 my daughter and i have reservations to go in August, but we will only be doing Epcot, 1Day only were not even staying in the Disney bubble,

  • @---qh9tb
    @---qh9tb 9 місяців тому

    these vids are so good

  • @Nygon08
    @Nygon08 9 місяців тому +4

    most of these would be great if they were in different parks but instead it chose to destroy epcots original vision why are we making epcot a place with a ton of I.P.'s instead of anything with the vision of eating and drinking around the world they doing the complete opposite

  • @MaddJakd
    @MaddJakd 8 місяців тому

    I've never understood the obsession with trying to make everything "family friendly" as of late.
    Not everything and escape is meant to be for those under 18. Adults wanna getaway and have fun too. And that fun tends to include 99.9% of stuff that isn't necessarily meant for kids, and should have to be darnit!
    They have far bigger things to worry about as opposed to baby-ifying the park, when they have other adjacent parks where the kiddies can roam free nearly

  • @matth3w2002
    @matth3w2002 9 місяців тому +2

    I think Remy's Ratatoullie Adventure is cute, although call me uncultured but, I think the contestant switching between the characters speaking French and English is annoying.

    • @kalzium8857
      @kalzium8857 9 місяців тому +3

      Well they copied this attraction from their french park and didn't change the audio