If anyone is following this, be careful while removing the battery. On the video they damaged the screen while removing they just never showed it turned on. Heating up the adhesive to warm to touch is a much easier way to remove it than alcohol. Just make sure not to over heat the area battery
James @2:37 when they take out the battery, there’s that little copper color. They broke threw the first layer of the screen. Which isn’t deep enough to damage the LCD but will bring issue to the the touch on the phone. And you’re right alcohol won’t damage the phone. But what I was saying is, heating up the adhesive instead of putting alcohol on it is a much easier way of taking it out
@@HupfDole87 I see it at 2:39, there's a little orange square within the black area underneath where the battery sits. It looks to me like they damaged it when they pushed the battery out with the plastic pick and maybe the pick scratched it.
That.s not true. You need to use alcohol IPA ->90% and up. Instead of prying it and risking that u will damage LCD(under battery there is a "window" in metal frame where u can easily poke LCD) you should use suction cup. Apply force to suction cup and keep hold it till you will feel that adhesive give up.
Thanks for the video. My son and I were able to complete this in about 20 minutes. Once we heated the edges up with a hair dryer, the back was easy to remove. We used adhesive remover and alcohol to remove the battery. That was the trickiest part.
the days when the batteries were way smaller in capacity because they had to have a protective layer over them and the days when if you dropped your phone your battery would fly out? no i don’t miss those days
Just used your kit with tools to to fix a swollen s10+ battery - it was pushing the screen up as well as the back apart,, worked pretty well, 4 observations::: - 1. Showing how to use the included glue strips in this video would help give a better idea of how to do it.. 2 Yes those screws are microscopic, a 1" super magnet helped in finding one that went flying and for getting some of them out of their flanges in the phone. 3. The suction cup would not fasten at all on the back of the s10+, not sure why., 4. The iOpener worked quite - just be patient..Overall well done and a very nice kit. btw - glad I bought it - and it got here in 2 days !!!.. There is no 91% isopropyl alcohol in the kit - so be sure you have some on hand. My battery was loose enough - i just gently pried it up.. so not an issue for me.
What they fail to tell you is the back cover is glass. It needs a lot of heat to get the glue slightly soft, there is no gap to jam a pick in so takes a lot of force. Once the cover did start coming up the glass shattered and a shard when through my finger and out the other side....
@qwrt hialname Repalced the back glass. Here is a good tip, don't use picks, cut a square of plastic out of a soft drink bottle and use that. It is much more flexible and thin so cut cut the glue without bending and cracking the glass.
@@fukushima4670 well regardless of phone pretty much everything you do is recorded or spied on. I think the real reason they have phones so difficult to repair is so they make more $ Just like Apple not allowing regular users or technicians to buy Apple parts, only certified Apple technicians can. Thos makes it where you have to pay exorbitant prices at Apple stores to get it fixed. Same with most other phone companies. They want you to send it I'm to get repaired or take it in to their stores or certified tech centers. This cost ungodly amounts of money for something that isn't hard to do once you learn the proper way to do it
@@lailamahomed3180 It is a conspiracy, if you know what that word even means. But it is no theory, it is how signaling works. And it is known that the state uses those for spying on civilians. Ask Edward Snowden, he exposed them.
@@Philminator Never tested 30mins in water, but now im going to pool. If phone gets wet, how fast can you charge it? I cannot always see water in connector :)
Watching on Galaxy s5. Just got an s10 so mentally prepairing for non removable battery... At least I'm glad they kept the headphone jack. It was a deal breaker for me if they took it out.
Thanks for the video. The last time I did it the phone literally exploded. It took me 2 days to carefully remove the battery. I used industrial grade thinner to remove the battery which is the toughest part.
Don't worry if you crack the cover like I did 😳 (novice) you can replace them cheap as chips. The hardest part for me was removing the battery, that was well secure.
The mat is a great idea, but I use a method that is, in my opinion, better. I have a bunch of cardstock sheets (particularly I use the backing cards for vintage comic book sleeves) and use doblesided tape to hold screws on there and I also write down notes as to where certain parts go, in which order, etc, etc. I think the tape is better than magnets because magnetic mats are never very strong and so if you bump the mat too hard all the screws go flying. The tape holds them in place very securely.
Very informative. It helps to know what it takes to replace a battery so clearly intended to NOT be replaced. I saw another UA-cam video about how many replacement batteries are misrepresented. Between these 2 videos, I've decided to go to a Samsung Services location in my area and pay to have it done by people prepared to stand behind the parts and repairs. It is more expensive than a DIY but I can come home knowing that it will be done right and with the Samsung approved parts.
Except that Samsung technicians will use a Samsung battery that will most certainly fail again instead of a hybrid battery made from different materials that won't fail.
Problem is getting hold of a genuine (and new) Samsung S10 plus battery? I’m in the UK and all I’ve seen so far is fake or used knock-offs on eBay. Any ideas? Great video btw 😊
Also I didn't see where they said what adhesive was used and where to buy it. My Samsung S20 FE 5G phone launched on October 2, 2020 so it's just over 2 years old and I read they'll last 4 to 5 years but I like my phone and don't want to incur the cost of a replacement so I'm hoping to go this route when the battery does finally fail...also I'll probably need to purchase the tool kit to disassemble it.
Why do so many people have an obsession with the water-proofing? I had my note 4 for it's 5th year prior to just getting the Note 10 (old phone was crashing while running apps and screen was going - images were being burned) and never had a single incident of water damage to it even after being caught in the rain and putting it in wet clothing, including coming with me on a couple of log rides. (Anecdotal, I know, but still waterproof for # of minutes in a meter of water is not an end all-be all)
I hate this new trend of gluing batteries like it's the end of the world. Do you think the battery is going anywhere? Better use some glue-less foam to prevent rattling and movement of the battery and at the same time you do not put in risk the guys doing the repairs in the event of them piercing or bending the battery. Just saying...
Asi es la elimina una vez abierto el dispositivo si ya lo abriste antes o lo compraste usado ya se elimino porque seguro lo abrieron pero es no deberia ser un problema xq con el paso del tiempo la proteccion tambien se puede perder
What adhesive did you use on the battery and back glass. And where and how much adhesive did you put on the back glass to insure a Waterproof IP68 seal
thanks, this looks easy enough for me to do. One question, are all of the screws the same length? Did I need to keep track of what hole what screw came out of?
It does?! It would take an entire evening to follow all those steps! Not to mention buying $50 worth of weird tools. Why would a phone designer do this? It's a scam to get people to just buy a whole new phone every time the battery dies.
Should add a card of thin plastic for slipping under the battery - i figured i could use some old packaging, but when i got around to looking, pretty much everything was compressed cardboard, and i had to go out and buy a new toothbrush just to find suitable packaging material for the task.
And Which college courses will I need to take to perform this kinda surgery ??!!! My battery is screwed on my S10 butThanks for the video, on my way out the door to to buy an iphone ANYTHING but a samsung... 🥺
That's why people should not get so excited about 100watt fast chargers. They're just designed to degrade our batteries very fast. The iPhone 5watt charger in the box would've been cool if iPhones had 4000mAh+ batteries. Giving your superb battery life that will last you two days then you charge your phone all night. The less frequently you charge, the longer your battery lasts.
For the battery I used isopropyl alcohol and dental floss and it came out in just a few minutes. No prying needed. Dental floss is the same thing body shop guys sometimes use to remove badges from cars.
Lovepreet Singh no you still loose water resistance, the only way to get it back is to have it professionally resealed by a shop with a heat press machine, even then id be wary about taking it in water
I did this today on my s10lite and charged it to 100% but now it's on 0 percent and no charging :( what's going on? It is on charger for 3 hours and keeps on 0%.. any tip? Brand New original battery pack.. the original and older got swollen due to bad repair.. may be the battery info.bin problem? It's stock and no root
I have 2 things to ask: I have not understood the usefulness of propyl alcohol and above all, if I do this battery change procedure, will I lose water resistance?
Where can I buy a oem battery for my S10+ ??? Seems like Samsung doesn't sell them? Found online, but cant tell if they are new or fake or reproductions or refurbished. None were Samsung websites. Shouldn't be this hard to find a new battery. Thanks!!!
All of these New phone suck,I'd rather have the option to take off the back cover and put in a new battery any time I want. I'll stick with my old note 4
Plenty of batteries for sale on Ebay, and probably Etsy. Average price is around $10 USD. The iFixit tool kit is a bit expensive, but since the Samsung phones are expensive and the company does not fix bloated batteries after the warranty period, think about the money you will save by not paying a shop to replace the battery. DIY is better anyway since shops are notorious for scratching your screen or case.
I did one better, I added a 10,000mah cell to mine and replaced the back cover with a custom made 3D printed case My S10+ is 14,000mah, but it's thinner and lighter than an S10+ with an 8000mah battery case (the type that uses the charge port) Even made an extender cable for the wireless charging and NFC coils
2:48 plug the power cord briefly to check the battery before closing everything up
Thanks for this. The video should mention the state of the water proofing after this process.
Man I miss that days when I missed the days.
hahahaha fool
@@whoami66669 coronavirus
2 years later, but this do be funny
soon you gonna miss the the days where you missed the days of missing the days.
man me too i also miss those days when i missed the days
If anyone is following this, be careful while removing the battery. On the video they damaged the screen while removing they just never showed it turned on. Heating up the adhesive to warm to touch is a much easier way to remove it than alcohol. Just make sure not to over heat the area battery
James @2:37 when they take out the battery, there’s that little copper color. They broke threw the first layer of the screen. Which isn’t deep enough to damage the LCD but will bring issue to the the touch on the phone. And you’re right alcohol won’t damage the phone. But what I was saying is, heating up the adhesive instead of putting alcohol on it is a much easier way of taking it out
@@nathanpk4822 I fail to see what you mean at 2:37. Where is that little copper color that got broken?
@@HupfDole87 I see it at 2:39, there's a little orange square within the black area underneath where the battery sits. It looks to me like they damaged it when they pushed the battery out with the plastic pick and maybe the pick scratched it.
That.s not true. You need to use alcohol IPA ->90% and up. Instead of prying it and risking that u will damage LCD(under battery there is a "window" in metal frame where u can easily poke LCD) you should use suction cup. Apply force to suction cup and keep hold it till you will feel that adhesive give up.
@@nathanpk4822 is it recommended to use hairdryer to heating up the adhesive instead of putting alcohol?
Thanks for the video. My son and I were able to complete this in about 20 minutes. Once we heated the edges up with a hair dryer, the back was easy to remove. We used adhesive remover and alcohol to remove the battery. That was the trickiest part.
Man i miss the days when it was just a plastic cover with no glue at all
Bro I just came down to comment section to say this. I wish Samsung would make flagships like those again someday.
the days when the batteries were way smaller in capacity because they had to have a protective layer over them and the days when if you dropped your phone your battery would fly out? no i don’t miss those days
So no water resistance.
My 2016 phone is like that xd
@@dreamer9071 dam son wot is it
Just used your kit with tools to to fix a swollen s10+ battery - it was pushing the screen up as well as the back apart,, worked pretty well, 4 observations::: - 1. Showing how to use the included glue strips in this video would help give a better idea of how to do it.. 2 Yes those screws are microscopic, a 1" super magnet helped in finding one that went flying and for getting some of them out of their flanges in the phone. 3. The suction cup would not fasten at all on the back of the s10+, not sure why., 4. The iOpener worked quite - just be patient..Overall well done and a very nice kit. btw - glad I bought it - and it got here in 2 days !!!..
There is no 91% isopropyl alcohol in the kit - so be sure you have some on hand. My battery was loose enough - i just gently pried it up.. so not an issue for me.
What they fail to tell you is the back cover is glass. It needs a lot of heat to get the glue slightly soft, there is no gap to jam a pick in so takes a lot of force.
Once the cover did start coming up the glass shattered and a shard when through my finger and out the other side....
@qwrt hialname Repalced the back glass. Here is a good tip, don't use picks, cut a square of plastic out of a soft drink bottle and use that. It is much more flexible and thin so cut cut the glue without bending and cracking the glass.
All so you they can keep track of you even when your phone is off... thats the only reason for making batteries so hard to remove.
@@fukushima4670 ahhh it's the conspiracy theorists
@@fukushima4670 well regardless of phone pretty much everything you do is recorded or spied on.
I think the real reason they have phones so difficult to repair is so they make more $
Just like Apple not allowing regular users or technicians to buy Apple parts, only certified Apple technicians can. Thos makes it where you have to pay exorbitant prices at Apple stores to get it fixed.
Same with most other phone companies. They want you to send it I'm to get repaired or take it in to their stores or certified tech centers. This cost ungodly amounts of money for something that isn't hard to do once you learn the proper way to do it
@@lailamahomed3180 It is a conspiracy, if you know what that word even means. But it is no theory, it is how signaling works. And it is known that the state uses those for spying on civilians. Ask Edward Snowden, he exposed them.
I am glad I had all of these at home before removing the battery!
Wow, they really don't want us to replace our batteries, do they?
Compared to other devies, this one is quiet simple.
It's mostly for waterproofing
@@lennartniehof7649 Oh really? Hadn't thought of that. But I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't also to make the product more 'perishable'.
It's for the IP67 or whatever it's called to make the phones water and dust proof I think.
@@Philminator Never tested 30mins in water, but now im going to pool. If phone gets wet, how fast can you charge it? I cannot always see water in connector :)
Watching on Galaxy s5. Just got an s10 so mentally prepairing for non removable battery...
At least I'm glad they kept the headphone jack. It was a deal breaker for me if they took it out.
Thanks for the video. The last time I did it the phone literally exploded. It took me 2 days to carefully remove the battery. I used industrial grade thinner to remove the battery which is the toughest part.
Don't worry if you crack the cover like I did 😳 (novice) you can replace them cheap as chips. The hardest part for me was removing the battery, that was well secure.
My man rubbed the camera lens. Be cautious on camera lens. If it is smudges or any dust before closing phone, camera will be permanently blurry.
The mat is a great idea, but I use a method that is, in my opinion, better. I have a bunch of cardstock sheets (particularly I use the backing cards for vintage comic book sleeves) and use doblesided tape to hold screws on there and I also write down notes as to where certain parts go, in which order, etc, etc. I think the tape is better than magnets because magnetic mats are never very strong and so if you bump the mat too hard all the screws go flying. The tape holds them in place very securely.
In general, while working with delicate parts, be concious about your mvements.
Very informative. It helps to know what it takes to replace a battery so clearly intended to NOT be replaced. I saw another UA-cam video about how many replacement batteries are misrepresented. Between these 2 videos, I've decided to go to a Samsung Services location in my area and pay to have it done by people prepared to stand behind the parts and repairs. It is more expensive than a DIY but I can come home knowing that it will be done right and with the Samsung approved parts.
Except that Samsung technicians will use a Samsung battery that will most certainly fail again instead of a hybrid battery made from different materials that won't fail.
Can you really lol
How much did Samsung pay you to write this?
Problem is getting hold of a genuine (and new) Samsung S10 plus battery? I’m in the UK and all I’ve seen so far is fake or used knock-offs on eBay. Any ideas? Great video btw 😊
At least this time you dont need to remove the screen.
But where to get a good OEM type battery??
Would have been helpful if this showed where to apply new adhesive on the cover, and how much to apply.
Also I didn't see where they said what adhesive was used and where to buy it. My Samsung S20 FE 5G phone launched on October 2, 2020 so it's just over 2 years old and I read they'll last 4 to 5 years but I like my phone and don't want to incur the cost of a replacement so I'm hoping to go this route when the battery does finally fail...also I'll probably need to purchase the tool kit to disassemble it.
Hopefully, there would be a full instruction sheet packed in the box, with the purchase of the back cover adhesive
Great video. Thank you. So what's with the blue film removed from battery? Why was it not reattached?
Adhesive? What kind? Got a brand name?
duct tape
@@frozenhouse5362 😂
Why do so many people have an obsession with the water-proofing? I had my note 4 for it's 5th year prior to just getting the Note 10 (old phone was crashing while running apps and screen was going - images were being burned) and never had a single incident of water damage to it even after being caught in the rain and putting it in wet clothing, including coming with me on a couple of log rides. (Anecdotal, I know, but still waterproof for # of minutes in a meter of water is not an end all-be all)
Can't speak for all but have used my s10+ underwater over a dozen times, last time snorkeling in Hawaii during summer break. Nice feature.
Germaphobe here. I wash mine every night.
I rail up lines off mine...
I hate this new trend of gluing batteries like it's the end of the world. Do you think the battery is going anywhere? Better use some glue-less foam to prevent rattling and movement of the battery and at the same time you do not put in risk the guys doing the repairs in the event of them piercing or bending the battery. Just saying...
What kind of adhesive is used to reassemble?
The OEM tape, can be purchased on ifixits website or on eBay
This is the reason I still use and fix my S5
I have an S5 with a bent charging port pin. Fixable?
Where did you purchase the little bottle for the isopropyl alchohol with a needle on top or did you make it?
Where do you even buy another battery at?
ebay
Is changing the battery really helps? I still want to use my S10+
Great video, shows everything in simple and short. I removed the top, but couldn't remove most of the screws..
What adhesive can be used when replacing battery please?
what can I use to replace the water resistant glue after doing this repair?
eustore.ifixit.com/products/tesa-61395-tape
Thanks I've changed phone batteries before with abit off patience it can be done
None of these will be necessary if it simply has a removable back.
Please use common sense.
Thanks.
Samsung galaxy S10 plus and S10 5g battery is same size ?
great video. you've helped me decide not to attempt this surgical operation.
is the phone still water resistant after opening it up?
does this replacement remove the water and dust protection
Asi es la elimina una vez abierto el dispositivo si ya lo abriste antes o lo compraste usado ya se elimino porque seguro lo abrieron pero es no deberia ser un problema xq con el paso del tiempo la proteccion tambien se puede perder
BE CAREFUL!!!
Don't use too much alcohol.
Use alcohol to a minimum, or it will destroy the OLED display completely.
What adhesive did you use on the battery and back glass. And where and how much adhesive did you put on the back glass to insure a Waterproof IP68 seal
Will this still have the ip68 protection after the battery replacement?
I don't think so because the rubber will not be so good
Yes it does if you re seal it properly
The biggest challenge is removing the original battery
Does it remain waterproof?
Is it still water-tight?
when did this happen? I still have my S4 and its a removable back. I have a spare battery and haven't had issues.
I upgraded to this phone from s4. The s4 got WAY too slow and hot.
@@beastabuelos6421 yes. Mine is also really slow, although I don't get overheating problems
thanks, this looks easy enough for me to do.
One question, are all of the screws the same length?
Did I need to keep track of what hole what screw came out of?
All same screws, no worries
It does?!
It would take an entire evening to follow all those steps! Not to mention buying $50 worth of weird tools. Why would a phone designer do this?
It's a scam to get people to just buy a whole new phone every time the battery dies.
Is the Smartphone after the Repair Wateresistant or not?
Yes
Is it water resistant after the battery replacement
Yes
@@sidgrewal8784
No
Is the phone still waterproof after this?
I don't like how the finger pressed onto the camera lens during reassembly 😅😅
I bought S21+ 256GB 5G & still feel S10+ was a better flagship.
Almost even now, almost.
Especially the note!
I just went from the S10 plus to the s23 ultra.. I'm in heaven with the camera and 5,000 milliamp battery
But, when u do that, u dont would have IP68 anymore, right?
In most cases no, but if you put everything back in perfectly...
Should add a card of thin plastic for slipping under the battery - i figured i could use some old packaging, but when i got around to looking, pretty much everything was compressed cardboard, and i had to go out and buy a new toothbrush just to find suitable packaging material for the task.
Is a larger capacity battery possible?
No
will it boot without battery?
Thank you so much!
I hate how many steps and complicated it is. Miss the old phone. Now i have to go to a special tecnical store to get help change my battery
Is there any way for the alcohol to run into the screen and damage it?
If u put too much it might do it
But the phone screen already is tight and alcohol dry so fast
@기어사고싶다아아 noice
Wow this is so much simpler than an iPhone. Apple purposely makes it so difficult and Samsung is clearly more user friendly.
Or Samsung could just do what they did with the S5 - user replaceable battery and waterproof
And Which college courses will I need to take to perform this kinda surgery ??!!! My battery is screwed on my S10 butThanks for the video, on my way out the door to to buy an iphone ANYTHING but a samsung... 🥺
There's no problem of the alcohool getting to the back of the screen and damaging it?
Can anyone tell me whether you can also reinstall batteries with wrinkles or whether you should leave it and install a new one?
hello I'm from Indonesia. I'm interested in the item you are selling, how can I buy it, how do I do it, can you help me
1:14 I can’t just see my self as clear as black and white, ending up cracking the back glass due to putting to much pressure on the pic
That's why people should not get so excited about 100watt fast chargers. They're just designed to degrade our batteries very fast. The iPhone 5watt charger in the box would've been cool if iPhones had 4000mAh+ batteries. Giving your superb battery life that will last you two days then you charge your phone all night. The less frequently you charge, the longer your battery lasts.
For the battery I used isopropyl alcohol and dental floss and it came out in just a few minutes. No prying needed.
Dental floss is the same thing body shop guys sometimes use to remove badges from cars.
Where can I buy the small container used to place the alcohol under the battery???
If you do have to add additional adhesive to the battery or the rear cover, what kind of adhesive should you use? Ordinary white glue?
I think a water resistant sealing adhesive is needed. You'll want to preserve the IP68 water resistence.
So basically if I change it I lose water resistance?
Lovepreet Singh no you still loose water resistance, the only way to get it back is to have it professionally resealed by a shop with a heat press machine, even then id be wary about taking it in water
기어사고싶다아아 only at a samsung shop though, and in north america not very many of those exist
It's still waterproof...?
After replace to a new battery my diagnostic at device care app still say "weak", how to reset this?
I did this today on my s10lite and charged it to 100% but now it's on 0 percent and no charging
:( what's going on? It is on charger for 3 hours and keeps on 0%.. any tip? Brand New original battery pack.. the original and older got swollen due to bad repair.. may be the battery info.bin problem? It's stock and no root
Shame on Samsung for not using easy pull tabs like on iphone, or other Android phones
what does the date on the battery mean?
Is It.a 4100mah replacement battery yall Are using as the replacement
Any differences with the S10e?
This seems WAY TOO HARD for average person to do w out messing up an expensive phone ?? 📱😒
Awsome video
Jeez this woman got some rugid hands 😆
That non-modular charging port is a big no-no for me.
Is this the same for s10e
Thanks!
I have 2 things to ask: I have not understood the usefulness of propyl alcohol and above all, if I do this battery change procedure, will I lose water resistance?
The Isopropyl Alcohol will disolve the adhesive and you will lose water resistance unless you use a replacement seal that has to be purchased.
No
The biggest challenge is removing the old battery it takes a lot of patience
Why don't you use a power driver when removing all of the screws
They are only using the included tools with the pack. (Besides the alcohol that you most likely have)
Where can I buy a oem battery for my S10+ ??? Seems like Samsung doesn't sell them? Found online, but cant tell if they are new or fake or reproductions or refurbished. None were Samsung websites. Shouldn't be this hard to find a new battery. Thanks!!!
Ebay
Howmuch would it cost?
the waterproof still works after battery replacement if not? how to make waterproof again?
BEST QUESTİON EVER!!!
Never ever get water resistant again, ip68 are being totally disabled, so take care of your smartphone to prevent this happening
Remember when it was no big deal and you could just lift the back off the phone? What is this bullshit we put up with these days.
All of these New phone suck,I'd rather have the option to take off the back cover and put in a new battery any time I want. I'll stick with my old note 4
Ok, shit phone but you do you.
How much did all that cost??
This is alcohol IPA ?
how to check and confirm the new battery is genuinely original samsung?
Where can I buy a new battery? Someone please send me the link or something.
Plenty of batteries for sale on Ebay, and probably Etsy. Average price is around $10 USD. The iFixit tool kit is a bit expensive, but since the Samsung phones are expensive and the company does not fix bloated batteries after the warranty period, think about the money you will save by not paying a shop to replace the battery. DIY is better anyway since shops are notorious for scratching your screen or case.
Amazon
I did one better, I added a 10,000mah cell to mine and replaced the back cover with a custom made 3D printed case
My S10+ is 14,000mah, but it's thinner and lighter than an S10+ with an 8000mah battery case (the type that uses the charge port)
Even made an extender cable for the wireless charging and NFC coils
Please can I ask where you got the battery from?
@@SiaD777 eBay
I changed the battery... turned my phone back on and now I have a black bar covering the bottom of the screen 😭😭
That should not even be possible.
I've had my s10+ for 4 years, it's in pristine condition but the battery is failing, samsung want £110 to replace it
But it is released this year
Could you plz tell me the price?
the price for what?
Orrrrr...you can just bring it to someone who does this and have them do it for you *-)
Most charge $200+ for that.
Battery plus does it for $60 👍
THANKS
Seems easier just smashing the old frame (since my lcd came with a new one) and removing it that way