Allegiant plane avoids mid-air collision at 23,000 feet

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  • Опубліковано 26 лип 2023
  • An Allegiant Airlines flight and a private jet avoided a near-collision on Sunday at over 20,000 feet in the air. NBC News’ Tom Costello has more on the moment that injured a flight attendant and terrified passengers.
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  • @lockman004
    @lockman004 9 місяців тому +1358

    An airline pilot once told me that being a commercial pilot was thousands of hours of boredom punctuated by moments of terror. This story confirms that description.

    • @simplytine2939
      @simplytine2939 9 місяців тому +35

      it's extremely rare

    • @WessyD123
      @WessyD123 9 місяців тому +10

      @StevenBazin-bp4sc I'll drink to that...

    • @Novastar.SaberCombat
      @Novastar.SaberCombat 9 місяців тому +4

      Makes sense. "Pushing Tin" was actually a pretty great film covering the wackiness of... well... playing God with gigantic tubes of people at 30k feet.

    • @j.r.357
      @j.r.357 9 місяців тому +8

      From a summary of Guy's Hospital Gazette (1914):
      The best definition I have heard of modern warfare is, “Months of boredom punctuated by moments of extreme terror."
      I guess it was a WW1 quote too.

    • @valeria-militiamessalina5672
      @valeria-militiamessalina5672 9 місяців тому +9

      Yeah, that's basically a definition of life.

  • @rebeccariley5893
    @rebeccariley5893 9 місяців тому +1241

    This is a safety system working as designed. When first-line defenses failed (ATC commands, pilot visuals), the backup system averted disaster. The pilots followed protocol to a T.
    One person was injured. Everyone is alive. In my mind, this is a success story. Safety systems such as these are the reason we haven't had a large-scale aviation disaster in the US since 2001.

    • @Mlogan11
      @Mlogan11 9 місяців тому +82

      It came down to the last line of defense to avert great tragedy. This "success" is a clear warning to look at first line defenses and fix the problem. It's never good when tragedy aversion winds up resting on the last line of defense.

    • @ponylovermadden4560
      @ponylovermadden4560 9 місяців тому +7

      Thank you for the Wikii rundown Ms. Google.

    • @LetsTalkAboutPrepping
      @LetsTalkAboutPrepping 9 місяців тому +43

      ​@@Mlogan11which is why two different agencies are investigating the incident and will likely implement new regulations that will effect the entire industry. Fortunately this time they won't be written in blood because of those final lines of defense

    • @thefourshowflip
      @thefourshowflip 9 місяців тому +19

      ⁠​⁠@@Mlogan11
      While I don’t disagree with the points, I do think that’s a slightly cynical lens to analyze it through. It’s not ideal when the last line of defense has to stop the problem, but it’s good to know we can rely on these systems in the worst case, and we can simulate them all we want to test them but we really don’t know how well it works outside a real emergency scenario, and that is at least a silver lining here. And as others have said, this time the new protocols that will likely follow from the investigations did not have to be written in blood as so many of our safety codes have been.
      It’s good, but it’s certainly not the best…and I worry about making best the enemy of better, because I’m sure we agree that it’s undeniably better that the backups worked than the alternative. Is it the best case? Nope, but it’s certainly better than the worst case

    • @LightsaberGoBrrrrrr
      @LightsaberGoBrrrrrr 9 місяців тому +6

      Depends on your definition of large scale. I would say the last major accident was in 09. Colgan Air. About 40 people died including 1 person on the ground

  • @TheTechCguy
    @TheTechCguy 9 місяців тому +626

    The most important part about this news is the fact that the mid-air collision never happened. Everybody in both aircraft avoided it.

    • @AO-mx9tk
      @AO-mx9tk 9 місяців тому +5

      Yep, a near miss.

    • @AnimalLover-dw2wu
      @AnimalLover-dw2wu 9 місяців тому +5

      Whatever. We can't rely on technology. People must be fully competent to do their jobs and organizations must function at the highest level to avoid potential tragedies like this. If those pilots had been asleep, the technology would make no difference.

    • @lagflag
      @lagflag 9 місяців тому +57

      @@AnimalLover-dw2wuit was actually the technology that made the planes avoid the collision. The TCAS system told one jet to go up while told the other to go down. It was a human error (the air traffic controller) who did a mistake

    • @VoteForBukele
      @VoteForBukele 9 місяців тому +27

      @@AnimalLover-dw2wuhuman error caused the incident (air traffic controllers) - yet somehow the synapses in your brain fired in a sequence that caused your fingertips to type “yOu CaNt ReLy On TeCHnOlOgy¡”. 😐 Fascinating…

    • @miked51
      @miked51 9 місяців тому +9

      @@lagflag Thank you, I was just about to say that.
      Also, this is over dramatic because of media. These things happen and most of the time it isn't broadcast to idiots.
      The person in love with animals has no clue how aviation and pilots/crew operate.

  • @502Aviation
    @502Aviation 9 місяців тому +225

    The TCAS systems on both planes worked flawlessly, the pilots did exactly what they were trained to do, and everyone is thankfully safe.

    • @frankl2770
      @frankl2770 9 місяців тому +1

      on autopilot this happens automatically without the Pilots have to do anything... so the news are BS .... no danger ever

    • @rlord12
      @rlord12 8 місяців тому +1

      @@frankl2770tell me your not a pilot without telling me your not a pilot

  • @MontanaDior
    @MontanaDior 9 місяців тому +394

    I've said it before, and I’ll repeat it. Aircraft pilots deserve the same amount of respect that we give to our First responders and military!

    • @Kim-ou7lc
      @Kim-ou7lc 9 місяців тому +1

      Yessss

    • @Drucio1
      @Drucio1 9 місяців тому +8

      Bus drivers should get the same respect.

    • @ds5651
      @ds5651 9 місяців тому +11

      Professionalism should get respect. There are unprofessional people in all careers and professionals. Including police and military

    • @asmith7907
      @asmith7907 9 місяців тому +1

      Agreed

    • @odgykins
      @odgykins 9 місяців тому +2

      If y’all don’t know, planes have collided mid air before. This is what created the TCAS system. It’s good to see that at work but this is surely traumatizing for all those on the plane. I went 29 years without getting on a plane- my first time was just this past April. If this had been my experience, I probably would never fly again.

  • @valerierodger
    @valerierodger 9 місяців тому +441

    Frightening to the passengers, undoubtedly, but this actually illustrates how extremely safe air travel is. Even when two planes are sent onto a collision course through human error, technology prevents them from colliding.

    • @colettewilliams3575
      @colettewilliams3575 9 місяців тому +16

      Are you crazy? This just goes to prove how dangerous flying is. That would be enough to keep me from ever flying again if I was on that flight.

    • @Real_deal954
      @Real_deal954 9 місяців тому +8

      Well said

    • @livingwithbipolar2
      @livingwithbipolar2 9 місяців тому +93

      ​@@colettewilliams3575Sorry sweetheart. TCAS worked as designed. Making air travel MUCH safer than ground/human navigation.

    • @tyregalaxy28
      @tyregalaxy28 9 місяців тому +7

      Well don't fly simple

    • @TexasFightTexas
      @TexasFightTexas 9 місяців тому +20

      Way safer than all the drunk drivers on the roads in America

  • @ItsMeHello555
    @ItsMeHello555 9 місяців тому +309

    I’m so thankful it was just scary and not deadly. Well done to the pilots. Terrifying.

    • @randomstuff5434
      @randomstuff5434 9 місяців тому +2

      Thank TCAS not the pilots

    • @ItsMeHello555
      @ItsMeHello555 9 місяців тому +1

      @@randomstuff5434 , do they not even have to react to the system? Is it all automated? I didn’t know, but I love to learn new things. Maybe just thank them both! Lol.

  • @yonisamber8169
    @yonisamber8169 9 місяців тому +27

    These passengers have the 81 victims of the 1986 Cerritos mid air disaster to thank for surviving this, and God.

  • @phillipcotton833
    @phillipcotton833 9 місяців тому +55

    This is why I don't complain about trivial things on a flight like, "leg room", " babies", "cheap services", etc. ANY AIRCRAFT that takes me thousands of feet in the air,& to my destination safely is a FIRST CLASS flight in my book 👌.

    • @notme5844
      @notme5844 8 місяців тому +1

      That's what im saying. Any comforts are a bonus, not a necessity.

  • @cocofluff
    @cocofluff 9 місяців тому +59

    This is why I ALWAYS keep my seatbelt on while on a plane, unless I'm going to the bathroom. You never know when turbulence or evasive maneuvers may send you flying.

  • @katiehettinger7857
    @katiehettinger7857 9 місяців тому +108

    Congratulations to the pilots for successfully avoiding the collision. 🙂👍💙🇺🇸🕊

    • @cnvi08
      @cnvi08 9 місяців тому +4

      The pilots want to go home too.

    • @rollthers3157
      @rollthers3157 9 місяців тому +3

      And the engineers whose tech saved the day.

  • @Recon3Y3z
    @Recon3Y3z 9 місяців тому +63

    Good thing the pilots listened to TCAS.

    • @VintageRetrospekt
      @VintageRetrospekt 9 місяців тому +2

      Why wouldn't they?

    • @HurricaneJahya
      @HurricaneJahya 9 місяців тому +10

      @@VintageRetrospekt You'd be surprised.

    • @emaarredondo-librarian
      @emaarredondo-librarian 9 місяців тому +3

      Better thing, the machines didn't tell *both* pilots to climb or to descend...

    • @adrenalinem4n
      @adrenalinem4n 9 місяців тому

      tcas overrules any other directives/ orders / even from the tower

    • @jaylenjackson2403
      @jaylenjackson2403 9 місяців тому +3

      @@adrenalinem4nI - I think you meant TCAS 😂

  • @ninerlives
    @ninerlives 9 місяців тому +148

    Yes it was a close call, but airplanes have a TCAS and highly trained pilots to avoid a collision. Situations like these are rare but unacceptable. Still, flying is much safer than driving in a car.. there have been MANY examples of people driving (or even taking trains) because of their fear of flying, and getting killed in a car accident. The last US major airline crash fatality in the US was 2009. It’s extremely safe.

    • @ninerlives
      @ninerlives 9 місяців тому +23

      Don’t forget, you’re feet away from death every time you drive (from oncoming traffic). You almost die every time you drive. All it takes is one person to look down at their phone for a second and you’re both dead. The safeguards in place to avoid a collision with these aircraft DID work, although the first line of defense allowed a potential issue to slip through the cracks, a disaster didn’t happen because of these safeguards.

    • @apriltumey3230
      @apriltumey3230 9 місяців тому +6

      It maybe safer but tbh it never feels safe , everytime I've been landed in a plane everyone claps for the pilot for getting everyone to their destination 😅👏

    • @HKim0072
      @HKim0072 9 місяців тому +9

      Flying commercial is way safer than driving. By many multiples.

    • @francinecorry633
      @francinecorry633 9 місяців тому +1

      These close calls are increasing on the ground and in the air due to overworked ATC shortages while not being experienced enough before employment.These positions must be better compensated to get more qualified people.

    • @ninerlives
      @ninerlives 9 місяців тому +2

      @@apriltumey3230 It feels safe when you understand how much engineering and training goes into everything. Every system has multiple backups. As a pilot, I’m more comfortable flying than in a car.

  • @niftykeentypedog
    @niftykeentypedog 9 місяців тому +3

    Risk of dying in a plane crash; 1 in 11,000,000
    Risk of dying in a car crash; 1 in 100

  • @vivalabad6
    @vivalabad6 9 місяців тому +79

    its amazing that an avoidance system like that exists, impressive!

    • @lisadiconti
      @lisadiconti 9 місяців тому +2

      Yes...I didn't know about this.

    • @silverhawkflash
      @silverhawkflash 9 місяців тому +21

      Aviation safety is written in blood.

    • @Nick-1992-SRB
      @Nick-1992-SRB 9 місяців тому +3

      @@silverhawkflashvery well said written in BLOOD 🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸

    • @elcheapo5302
      @elcheapo5302 9 місяців тому +3

      It's been around over 40 years. It does periodically get better as time goes on.

    • @eviljesus6111
      @eviljesus6111 9 місяців тому

      ​@@Nick-1992-SRB🪦⚰️✈️

  • @jaklinhyde
    @jaklinhyde 9 місяців тому +142

    The craziest part is even after all of that the lady still had a much higher chance of being seriously injured or killed in a car crash than on a plane

    • @aick
      @aick 9 місяців тому +5

      How do you expect her to drive her car down the aisle, silly?

    • @tangojuli209
      @tangojuli209 9 місяців тому +12

      absolutely. TCAS has saved thousands of people since it was made mandatory by REGULATION

    • @joelglanton6531
      @joelglanton6531 9 місяців тому +20

      It's amazing, the level of stupidity required to change travel plans so quickly because of such an incident. Admitting on national TV that you're operating based on visceral responses to emotion.

    • @milesmorris9333
      @milesmorris9333 9 місяців тому +4

      @@aick Hey, it's a compact car. It'll squeeze through.

    • @aick
      @aick 9 місяців тому

      @@milesmorris9333 Ah OK, yeah I have a full size sedan. MB.

  • @A22DNAL
    @A22DNAL 9 місяців тому +33

    While no one ever wants there to be a reason for safety measures (i.e. TCAS collision avoidance) to be used this is EXACTLY what that system was designed to do!♥

  • @danwilson9530
    @danwilson9530 9 місяців тому +5

    The reason there wasn't a tragic accident today was literally due to lessons learned from previous accidents. The system worked PERFECTLY. Ironically the passenger who decided to drive their family back home to Kentucky after the fact put themselves at far more risk on the highway than had they continued on the next flight. That's a fact.

    • @dz7a756
      @dz7a756 9 місяців тому

      It's still about preference of how one may want to suffer. As I use to be terrified of flying, my thought process was I would prefer to be on the ground trying to manage whatever injuries from a car accident versus being in the air having to wait for my death...especially if over water.
      Of course, this accident was a potentially sudden death on impact from a collision, but not all plane incidents happen this way.
      Be well and be at peace.

  • @seraphim1833
    @seraphim1833 9 місяців тому +11

    Thankfully this wasn’t a repeat of that mid air collision in Brazil in 2006. Glad everyone is safe.

  • @pablomata6347
    @pablomata6347 9 місяців тому +139

    Hope she doesn’t let fear take control of her life because it sucks I stop flying for years after a bad experience and I’m finally flying again I missed it loving it

    • @joelglanton6531
      @joelglanton6531 9 місяців тому +16

      Sounds like it's too late if she already changed her travel plans based on her emotional response to the incident.

    • @Fucktheworld14020
      @Fucktheworld14020 9 місяців тому +11

      What was your experience, I last flew in 1995 coming back from college then for years I watched lots of plane crash documentaries to the point I was terrified of flying, also 9/11 didn’t help either, then I met this lady and she was enough to get me back flying because I really wanted too see Vegas for the first time (I stay in Chicago) so 20 years later 2019 to be exact I got back on a plane and I was a nervous wreck but 20 flights later I’m a lot calmer, for one I stopped watching those plane crash documentary’s and got me a IPad and head phones too watch movies I also tell myself if something does happen it will be over quick and all what problems I do have will be over may sound hash but it helps lbs!

    • @finneserrr
      @finneserrr 9 місяців тому +2

      @@Fucktheworld14020glad your ok w getting on planes

    • @jonasvalero
      @jonasvalero 9 місяців тому +12

      Her fear is pretty rational, along with the many passengers in this flight. Near death experience is no joke.

    • @transportspotterraphael
      @transportspotterraphael 9 місяців тому +1

      Underrated comment

  • @awaspthatswatchingyou4559
    @awaspthatswatchingyou4559 9 місяців тому +5

    Man thought they would end up on Mayday air disasters, goot job TCAS

  • @jllee9189
    @jllee9189 9 місяців тому +17

    I was a commercial pilot for over 35 years, sadly enough it is not uncommon for our TCAS to go off commanding us to make an unplanned maneuver to avoid the path of another airplane, although every commercial pilot gets hours of training every year reacting to TCAS advisory’s, so the event in itself is not as risky or dangerous as this news story tries to make it out to be.
    Bottom line, the lady who said she was going to stay on the highways versus the skyways is actually putting herself statistically more at risk!

    • @ElleixGaming
      @ElleixGaming 9 місяців тому

      I'm curious: are the TCAS maneuvers typically abrupt and intense like the news described? Or can they feel more subtle? Occasionally on flights where we're at cruising altitude I'll feel the plane move up or down, but not intense enough to knock people off their feet

    • @RS-uo2nd
      @RS-uo2nd 8 місяців тому

      @@ElleixGamingThey shouldn’t be very intense. Usually between 1-2k feet per minute. Having reviewed this it looks like the allegiant pilot panicked and over climbed immediately at over 3k fpm. The allegiant was close to 3 miles past the gulfstream when it climbed.

  • @nats5544
    @nats5544 9 місяців тому +4

    They picked the most dramatic passenger to interview 😲 hard to watch

  • @YoongiSugar-xj9ee
    @YoongiSugar-xj9ee 9 місяців тому +53

    We have to respect pilots, our lives are at their hands every time we get on a plane. I can’t wait for the investigation results.

    • @zaram131
      @zaram131 9 місяців тому +5

      And that’s why I hate flying. I don’t trust anybody.

    • @brentbeacham9691
      @brentbeacham9691 9 місяців тому +4

      Your life is also in the hands of ATC.

    • @BrokenBonesRBLX
      @BrokenBonesRBLX 9 місяців тому +1

      @@zaram131 so you don't trust your parents? 🤣

    • @lavarad
      @lavarad 9 місяців тому +2

      @@zaram131 You are safer in a plane than in a car

    • @ALLforROME
      @ALLforROME 9 місяців тому

      ​@@zaram131my thoughts EXACTLY!

  • @dans3182
    @dans3182 9 місяців тому +94

    Don’t be nervous. Pray before every flight and trust that your pilot is capable and skilled. Shout out to the pilots!

    • @AnimalLover-dw2wu
      @AnimalLover-dw2wu 9 місяців тому +14

      That's all you can do. Otherwise, hole up in your house with the covers over your head until you die.

    • @SSS-bd6li
      @SSS-bd6li 9 місяців тому +16

      Also, pray really hard that the air traffic controllers are awake and making sound decisions. Still, it's so much safer to fly than drive down a two lane highway;)

    • @melistasy
      @melistasy 9 місяців тому

      ​@@AnimalLover-dw2wu😂😂

    • @ronbelanger4113
      @ronbelanger4113 9 місяців тому +5

      LOL, which Sky Fairy cult?

    • @buttofthejoke
      @buttofthejoke 9 місяців тому +7

      Actually the fate of those who pray and don't are statistically the same.

  • @popgems
    @popgems 9 місяців тому +3

    That air traffic controller should be fired.

  • @abstractdragon5453
    @abstractdragon5453 9 місяців тому +1

    Kid, if that's the scariest thing you ever have to deal with in your life, you are truly blessed.

  • @Southernswag8283
    @Southernswag8283 9 місяців тому +1

    For those who don’t know much about aviation, 600 feet per minute is basically NOTHING. The usual commercial aircraft climb with passengers is about 1500 to 2800 feet per second. So 600 feet is literally nothing.

  • @truthreignsforever9286
    @truthreignsforever9286 9 місяців тому +3

    Avoiding mid air collision is always good

  • @user-pt1cz4ot1e
    @user-pt1cz4ot1e 9 місяців тому +31

    It’s a shame something like this would turn someone away from flying. There’s a big world out there. Don’t let a scary situation turn your world very small. 😢

    • @user-ty5nu7hh9q
      @user-ty5nu7hh9q 9 місяців тому +4

      why be rude to a person who WANTS TO MAKE SURE SHE SEES THE BIG WORLD and not have a very possibility of dying on a plane. Yes she can die from auto or pedestrian...but she has chosen to eliminate the flying aspect and danger. No need to chastise her. WE may not see you soon on this earth after your next flight so hurry and leave your reply

    • @floydjohnson7888
      @floydjohnson7888 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@user-ty5nu7hh9q I don't think the prior poster meant to chastise her at all. There are no express/implied accusations of cowardice/paranoia in that post. The connotations, or at least to "native speakers of American English" were more on the lines of, "Give the concept of air travel another chance."
      Upon seeing this post, some Florida neckbeard will start whining about the above display of "highbrow, almost schoolteacher-ish, command of conventional American English". They don't like the idea of an intelligent general public.

    • @114avataraang
      @114avataraang 9 місяців тому +1

      @@user-ty5nu7hh9qthis is the epitome of having an emotional response to something rather than one based in facts and reality 😂

  • @jimestooper1480
    @jimestooper1480 9 місяців тому +1

    Incredible technology preventing an accident. Awesome to see.

  • @jakepatchogue9478
    @jakepatchogue9478 9 місяців тому +7

    She had a much greater chance of dying in a car accident than just staying on the aircraft. All systems and crew acted swiftly and accordingly

    • @BabyGators
      @BabyGators 9 місяців тому +2

      Absolutely! His chances of getting injured or killed driving 1000 miles were infinitely greater than a flight. Sure, would be a bit scary in the moment, but absolutely the safest way to travel

    • @dz7a756
      @dz7a756 9 місяців тому +1

      It's still about preference of how one may want to suffer. As I use to be terrified of flying, my thought process was I would prefer to be on the ground trying to manage whatever injuries from a car accident versus being in the air having to wait for my death...especially if over water.
      Of course, this accident was a potentially sudden death on impact from a collision, but not all plane incidents happen this way.
      Be well and be at peace.

    • @jakepatchogue9478
      @jakepatchogue9478 9 місяців тому +1

      @@dz7a756 I agree. It’s hard to say how we would react until in that situation. I’m an aviation enthusiast so I likely wouldn’t be too scared, but I definitely know my family would refuse to get back on

  • @aerohk
    @aerohk 9 місяців тому +49

    The person doesn't look 21 year old. Amazing.

    • @simplytine2939
      @simplytine2939 9 місяців тому +1

      its in the genes , 10 years younger

    • @joelglanton6531
      @joelglanton6531 9 місяців тому

      She looks like a 13-year-old boy.

    • @j.a.3138
      @j.a.3138 9 місяців тому +59

      I thought that was a boy. Man this new generation sucks

    • @somethingyoudontknow5788
      @somethingyoudontknow5788 9 місяців тому +21

      @@j.a.3138pixie cuts been here for long 😂

    • @jonasvalero
      @jonasvalero 9 місяців тому +15

      @@j.a.3138 Huh, you the old man at the yard shouting at sky? 😂

  • @marilynspaulding2142
    @marilynspaulding2142 9 місяців тому +94

    My grandson and his girlfriend was on this plane. Thank God for saving everyone from a terrible disaster !!

    • @churrothiev8387
      @churrothiev8387 9 місяців тому +27

      Thanks the pilots

    • @vivek27789
      @vivek27789 9 місяців тому +17

      ​@@churrothiev8387And TCAS collision warning system.

    • @randallparkerjr
      @randallparkerjr 9 місяців тому +4

      Glad to hear some young people are still men and women. And that they're alive, thank God.

    • @monique7614
      @monique7614 9 місяців тому +5

      Thank the pilots and the engineers who designed the TCAS collision warning system. That's who saved everyone from a terrible disaster!

    • @CharlestonChica
      @CharlestonChica 9 місяців тому +5

      ​@@randallparkerjrAre the transgender people in the room with you right now?

  • @YT-Polaris
    @YT-Polaris 9 місяців тому +17

    TCAs saving the day again.

  • @ashleylala4293
    @ashleylala4293 9 місяців тому +4

    I am witnessing an escalating level of incompetence. I’m sure it’s totally safe and effective though.

    • @JayJayAviation
      @JayJayAviation 9 місяців тому +1

      It is safe and effective

    • @bobmcgehee1749
      @bobmcgehee1749 9 місяців тому

      @@JayJayAviation No it’s not.

    • @JayJayAviation
      @JayJayAviation 9 місяців тому

      @@bobmcgehee1749 how so?

    • @bobmcgehee1749
      @bobmcgehee1749 9 місяців тому

      @@JayJayAviation Controllers primary job is aircraft separation, the only thing that prevented a collision was the on board TCAS.

    • @JayJayAviation
      @JayJayAviation 9 місяців тому

      @@bobmcgehee1749 safeguards worked as intended. Sure the primary thing failed but everything ended well and safely

  • @maxinewest1326
    @maxinewest1326 9 місяців тому +4

    Thank God, that were avoid.

  • @Sniff_Jenkem
    @Sniff_Jenkem 9 місяців тому +11

    The sad thing is, it was so much more dangerous for them to drive home.
    I get it, it's more comfortable to drive because we are in cars/see cars daily, but that's also why they are so much more dangerous.

    • @iphner43
      @iphner43 9 місяців тому

      people are stupid

  • @fastfiddler1625
    @fastfiddler1625 9 місяців тому +2

    Hours and hours of boredom just waiting for that moment of terror that may never happen. That's pretty much the life of an airline pilot. This is why when we say keep your seat belt on when you're in your seat even if the sign is off, we mean it. Getting up and walking around is ALWAYS a risk. But this is also why all aircraft are required to have ADS-B out in controlled airspace, and TCAS-II on all commercial aircraft. It's a last line of defense because mistakes happen, controllers are human. There's a reason why they have to retire at 56 where pilots (currently) have to at 65. Normally there should be more warning than to require maneuvers like this. Startle factor may have played a role. The investigation will tell.

  • @PacMan592
    @PacMan592 8 місяців тому

    Collision avoidance warning is a freaking amazing feature

  • @HOPE.TheresNoPlaceLikeHomeClub
    @HOPE.TheresNoPlaceLikeHomeClub 9 місяців тому +4

    ✈️ fool me once, you can't fool me no more. 🚗 she drove home 😂

  • @madelinemanor3367
    @madelinemanor3367 9 місяців тому +57

    Must have been horrifying for all. Too close of a call. 😮

  • @lt4107
    @lt4107 9 місяців тому +5

    I’m so grateful for that climb climb climb voice warning. So happy no collision and lost lives❤ Hopefully, the investigation will yield some corrections and improvements.

  • @sar898
    @sar898 9 місяців тому +168

    The trauma is very hard to get over. Hope the passengers can recover. Knowing how close you will be to death in a mid air where a collision is 100% fatal.. that really is traumatizing.😢

    • @Neverender3367
      @Neverender3367 9 місяців тому +19

      You grew up coddled and it shows.

    • @dave0351
      @dave0351 9 місяців тому +19

      Trauma? I think that word might mean different things to different people. A sudden climb in an otherwise safe and uneventful flight doesn't rise to the level of trauma in my book.

    • @Assmagnus
      @Assmagnus 9 місяців тому +3

      Lol.

    • @christerry1773
      @christerry1773 9 місяців тому +10

      Trauma? This is not trauma! You should read about Qantas air 72, or Japan air where the stabilizer was blown off. THAT’s trauma.

    • @zekejdavidson
      @zekejdavidson 9 місяців тому +8

      ​​@@dave0351well, like you said, trauma means different things to different people. For him, this is what he considers traumatic.

  • @TheLadyWoreBlack73
    @TheLadyWoreBlack73 9 місяців тому +5

    So glad there was no crash. Hope the flight attendant gets well soon.

  • @curtisdaniel9294
    @curtisdaniel9294 9 місяців тому +4

    Glad Both planes had TCAS systems AND they worked properly with crews doing their parts. I hope the Flight Attendant is doing well!

    • @dz7a756
      @dz7a756 9 місяців тому

      Exactly. Glad both were clear on who would climb and who would descend.
      Be well and be at peace.

  • @thedude5040
    @thedude5040 9 місяців тому +40

    Another job well done on engineering thay safety system

  • @MasterCarguy44-pk2dq
    @MasterCarguy44-pk2dq 9 місяців тому +2

    600 ft in seconds in an A321 is no big deal in a plane that climbs at 3000 to 4000 ft per min. It was likely an abrupt control input though.

  • @JayTee2985
    @JayTee2985 9 місяців тому +54

    TCAS saves lives if the pilots obey its command. In this situation, both did.

    • @shawntw1556
      @shawntw1556 9 місяців тому +8

      And they've been explicitly trained on it and legally mandated to follow tcas for decades. There was an accident many decades ago where TCAS gave instructions to the pilots of two aircraft and a controller gave instructions to one of them that contradicted TCAS. because of that, both pilots did the same thing, crashed, and since then TCAS has been explicitly stated to have more authority in this situation than even the controller.

    • @Ron898
      @Ron898 9 місяців тому +1

      What if TCAS tells both planes to climb?

    • @pk3
      @pk3 9 місяців тому +2

      @@Ron898 They'll crash. Duh!

    • @Leuel48Fan
      @Leuel48Fan 9 місяців тому +7

      @@Ron898 That'll never happen as TCAS computers communicate with each other ensuring they gives opposing instructions.

    • @Duu2
      @Duu2 9 місяців тому +5

      ​@@Ron898 It is a bidirectional and cooperative system that negotiates a plan and commits to it; it is designed to never do that. They exchange their rate change state values then the proposed avoidance plan is likely to be the same no matter who calculates it; but one side wins. There was a previous accident where the ATC gave an opposite instruction to what TCAS said and one pilot obeyed the controller so the planes flew straight into each other and they all died. Since then pilots have been instructed to only follow TCAS. Well done to the engineers who made TCAS!

  • @trentgilliam5192
    @trentgilliam5192 9 місяців тому +12

    I’m not downplaying anyone’s fears, I fly for work and still don’t “love” doing it. However, this is a great example of the built in aircraft safety working. That’s a good thing. I hope the person that drove home takes comfort in that and flys again.

    • @somebodyoncetoldme8317
      @somebodyoncetoldme8317 9 місяців тому

      They said they never were flying again. I don’t blame tjem

    • @almckee7964
      @almckee7964 9 місяців тому +1

      @@somebodyoncetoldme8317 Air travel is the safest way to travel...

  • @rayselby3487
    @rayselby3487 9 місяців тому +6

    Sue here: keep your seatbelts on at all times!!!

  • @AviaryAviles159
    @AviaryAviles159 9 місяців тому +5

    It’s like a thousand butterflies hit your stomach from the inside, it’s a horrible feeling

  • @DaneReidVoiceOver
    @DaneReidVoiceOver 9 місяців тому +5

    Twice I have been looking out the window on a plane recently when I spotted another plane freakishly close.

  • @Oak138
    @Oak138 9 місяців тому +13

    0:43 I’m confused how it felt like a rollercoaster going straight down, when the Allegiant plane climbed rapidly

    • @markdaisey4800
      @markdaisey4800 9 місяців тому +7

      Probably the level-off after the deconfliction maneuver.

    • @Hoes_Mad
      @Hoes_Mad 9 місяців тому +7

      Same I assume she means the g force tho

    • @william.youare6736
      @william.youare6736 9 місяців тому

      Yep, makes no sense
      ..

  • @Yuan-lo3zz
    @Yuan-lo3zz 9 місяців тому +1

    Had a similar incident pulling into Charlotte when the airliner couldn’t complete its landing procedure due to another plane getting too close. The pilots had to take evasive maneuvers and come back around for another landing. Blessed to have professional and quality crews work these flights in maintaining standards preventing catastrophes.

  • @FlipMacz
    @FlipMacz 9 місяців тому +2

    Wow, chills. Kudos to the pilots.

  • @petsandthingsilike
    @petsandthingsilike 9 місяців тому +6

    Glad everyone was ok 😁❤️

  • @ikeskifan
    @ikeskifan 9 місяців тому +4

    Ask Secretary of transportation buttigen he knows everything

  • @omidheidari4462
    @omidheidari4462 9 місяців тому

    God bless TCAS, you saved hundreds of lives

  • @trinsit
    @trinsit 9 місяців тому +2

    Flying has become the Squid Games

  • @HurricaneJahya
    @HurricaneJahya 9 місяців тому +9

    For those of you who may not be as well invested in aircrafts and airtravel as I am, *this keeps happening.*
    Luckily aircraft systems are advanced enough to not collide with each other, however Air Traffic Control systems are simply people, with human error. There are not enough human and non human redundancies to prevent this happening.

    • @sandpiperr
      @sandpiperr 9 місяців тому

      Looks to me like it just did!

    • @dmatech
      @dmatech 9 місяців тому

      The ATC people aren't exactly given the best technology to work with. Given their workload, I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often.

  • @katyggls
    @katyggls 9 місяців тому +4

    Good on the pilots for quick action. Somebody at ATC is losing their job.

  • @kristyjean6219
    @kristyjean6219 9 місяців тому +2

    Thank goodness for backup warnings from the airplane computers. I can only imagine what it must have been like to be a passenger or especially in the cockpit. That’s why you always wear those seatbelts!

  • @koutsoullis
    @koutsoullis 9 місяців тому +1

    bravo to the pilots

  • @stephenjordan8712
    @stephenjordan8712 9 місяців тому +5

    That’s a shame she feels that way about flying. I’ve flown since I was an infant and I’ve been through some rough turbulence, a few sudden ups and down, and plenty of delays and some cancellations, but it’s still the best and safest way to travel.

    • @wyattb3138
      @wyattb3138 9 місяців тому +2

      I think a little turbulence is fun when it’s too smooth.

    • @whatchamacallit70
      @whatchamacallit70 9 місяців тому

      Her experience was unique and frightening to her so I can understand her fear.

  • @iLLWiLL510
    @iLLWiLL510 9 місяців тому +28

    Recording yourself in a situation like this is goofy AF

    • @j.a.3138
      @j.a.3138 9 місяців тому +1

      no girl would wanna be with him after this video

    • @TheBrainFlow
      @TheBrainFlow 9 місяців тому +7

      Why would someone have the instinct to record themselves while going through something traumatic? It’s weird their minds have the cache to think “I should record this” while going through something like that. It looks cheap like it’s done for attention and likes on social media.

  • @professorsnape6259
    @professorsnape6259 8 місяців тому

    I was just watching an air disaster episode where pilots listened to the atc instead of T cast resulting in the biggest lost of life from a mid air collision. Glad the pilots from both aircraft listened to their t cast instructions.

  • @Armyblink4life554
    @Armyblink4life554 9 місяців тому +2

    Well atleast we have the technology to warn our pilots and having professional well trained pilots to prevent the collision

  • @sharondalynnewton7562
    @sharondalynnewton7562 9 місяців тому +5

    That’s really scary!

  • @Kobacolbz
    @Kobacolbz 9 місяців тому +4

    The skies have gotten way too crowded. Last few flights I’ve been I’ve see so many planes flying around from the window seat.

    • @thewiseguy3529
      @thewiseguy3529 9 місяців тому +1

      I would flip my lid if I saw that from the airplane.

    • @karmasutra4774
      @karmasutra4774 9 місяців тому

      Back in the 80's when I was a little kid they allowed circling around airports before making way for a landing. It was scary seeing all the planes in a Circle formation ... but that has changed and it is more rare to happen. There must have been an incident at some point

  • @cnvi08
    @cnvi08 9 місяців тому +1

    That air traffic controller caught a “deal” and will have to go thru retraining.

  • @drg8687
    @drg8687 9 місяців тому +1

    The dad then proceeded to drive 15 over the speed limit the whole way back, thus putting his family in far more danger. Emotional arguments should never be used.

  • @jordan119
    @jordan119 9 місяців тому +3

    Tcas did it's job for sure

  • @louiseparisotto3630
    @louiseparisotto3630 9 місяців тому +19

    I'm honestly surprised that this doesn't happen more often

    • @AO-mx9tk
      @AO-mx9tk 9 місяців тому +6

      It does

    • @jaylenjackson2403
      @jaylenjackson2403 9 місяців тому +8

      It certainly does, but because TCAS works so flawlessly, it’s often no big deal - the planes just make a simple small climb or descent and avoid the conflicting traffic. It looks like this one was made a big deal because of the evasive maneuver that scared passengers and might’ve caused a few injuries, but the majority of these incidents are not that notable 👍🏽

    • @TruCat
      @TruCat 9 місяців тому +5

      It does. We're racing time on this. (Folks are aware.)
      Three things should NEVER be privitized: Education, Health Care, and Infrustrucure. There is NO PROFIT in these things; they are EXPENSES. They are things that we pay for in order to live decent lives. The only way to profit off of these things is to cut into the product. (Also, make no mistake about this: US health care is absolutely, totally, completely and thoroughally for profit and quite possibly our most evil Problem with a capital letter, hands down. All narrative otherwise was paid for by their lobbiests. But I digress....)
      Currently, we have created a system where money is an idol to the point where we're totally blind to how dangerous our worship of profit is. The slow creep of privitizing and deregulating air/air traffic is turning out to be one of the biggest "But I never thought leapords would eat MY face!" moments for so, so, SO many people. (Source: BS in aeronautics. Learned things I didn't expect.)

    • @Guantar90
      @Guantar90 9 місяців тому

      It is common but it is very rare at this high altitude. I’ve had 6-10 RAs in the six years I’ve flown planes with the system. None of mine were above 5000 feet.

    • @christerry1773
      @christerry1773 9 місяців тому

      @@TruCatugh shut up!

  • @bunkertons
    @bunkertons 9 місяців тому +1

    Kudos to those pilots. They saved so many lives.

  • @bwabwa8810
    @bwabwa8810 9 місяців тому +6

    Her first flight? Thats a bummer. I've fly at least twice a year, sometimes to the other side of the planet. Its usually very boring. We did have severe turbulence over the Pacific once, and the plane just plummeted for about 10 seconds. But that was it.

  • @tangojuli209
    @tangojuli209 9 місяців тому +5

    TCAS has saved thousands since it was required system by regulation. Yay TCAS.

  • @jban4457
    @jban4457 9 місяців тому +1

    A trucker is born.

  • @dejtv956
    @dejtv956 9 місяців тому +1

    that air traffic controller getting fired for sure

  • @susannpatton2893
    @susannpatton2893 9 місяців тому +4

    I hope that girl never gets into a car accident, she won't leave the house again.
    That was a fluke and doesn't happen all the time, she took that to an extreme

  • @realhazel1807
    @realhazel1807 9 місяців тому +3

    wow... i cant imagine being in this situation... i be traumatized too

  • @robertdoback4553
    @robertdoback4553 9 місяців тому +2

    We are living in an incompetency crisis.

  • @AndreasAntics
    @AndreasAntics 9 місяців тому +2

    Jerrica, I’m sorry this was your only flying experience. I’ve been on roughly 140 flights (14 of those transoceanic) since I turned 18 (we didn’t fly growing up), and have only experienced some turbulence. To be fair, the safety protocols worked and a crisis was averted. That makes me feel safer about flying, not scared.

  • @claucemicro1080
    @claucemicro1080 9 місяців тому +4

    The marvels of engineering and good pilots! I hope the flight attendant is better. They have to deal with a lot of people on a daily basis and have a good attitude as well. She (maybe he) was probably standing for some duty when the maneuver happened and she was sent injured. Hopefully the passengers and crew are doing ok. God bless them all. 🙏🏼

    • @z7z766
      @z7z766 9 місяців тому

      Do you have hearing problem?

  • @christophermyers3758
    @christophermyers3758 9 місяців тому +4

    Add this to my next HIGH ANXIETY flight! 🥺
    As a gesture of comfort upon landing, the airline gave every passenger a fresh pair of underwear and a little pin saying...
    "I SURVIVED A NEAR MISS" in the shade of a plane! 😳🤣

  • @HM-hc9um
    @HM-hc9um 9 місяців тому

    This is exactly why I’d NEVER get on a pilot-less plane. Autopilot is pure nightmare. 😱

  • @brandoncameron2686
    @brandoncameron2686 9 місяців тому +7

    This would have been another future case of "Mayday"/Air Crash Investigations" if it had ended tragically. Glad it didn't though.

  • @kimberleywatson7330
    @kimberleywatson7330 9 місяців тому +3

    Man listen i took alliegant for the first time and never again...first off they wanted to charge me $70 for a seat. I carried my carryon and they wouldnt even let me bring a handbag. Then when we went on the plane the flight attendant said well the warning light that they were supposed to fix last night is still broken...did i also mention that the computers werent working either and they had to check us by a piece of paper? Then they told us to get off the flight we were taking another plane. Then they told us we needed to the other side of the airport. Then they told us no the flight was coming to us. Then i laid on thr floor for 3 hours til the next plane came. Nobody gave us any vouchers for food blankets nothing! Then the plane came and they still wanted to charge us for food and drinks not even that they gave us for free! The lady next to me asked for a cup of ice he gave her so i asked for a cup as well he started grumbling under his breath that now everybody would want a cup of ice and nobody would buy the drinks...listen i have always heard alliegant was the liberty city of airlines but i decided to give them a chance anyways NEVER AGAIN!!! i thought southwest was ghetto but this....😮‍💨😤

  • @Bb-br3xg
    @Bb-br3xg 9 місяців тому +2

    TCAS emergency systems and the hundreds of other forms of technology are what has made airline travel so safe

  • @FalconsGirl1
    @FalconsGirl1 9 місяців тому +1

    Wow that could’ve ended bad god bless the pilots

  • @bill392
    @bill392 9 місяців тому +4

    It might be interesting to create a computer simulation using actual flight data (including GPS, speed, etc.) and radar data to extrapolate the original flight paths and speed to see if the planes would have, or likely would have, collided or not.

    • @aaronrodgers77
      @aaronrodgers77 9 місяців тому

      The NTSB will almost certainly do that in their investigation

    • @christerry1773
      @christerry1773 9 місяців тому

      Good idea. I’m sure the ntsb will or some other UA-camr’s

  • @sew2prosper
    @sew2prosper 9 місяців тому +11

    Human error avoided by technology. Sometimes just sometimes I really am thankful for technology.
    Sure as heck seems as though the FAA is doing a lot of investigating as of late.

    • @dz7a756
      @dz7a756 9 місяців тому

      When just coming out of the pandemic, pilots were talking about how the layoff from air travel did affect their skills. Definitely needed to sharpen the tools in the tool box so to speak.
      I am sure that is true for others like the air traffic controllers.
      Be well and be at peace.

  • @mixedupmenopausaladhd3999
    @mixedupmenopausaladhd3999 9 місяців тому +1

    TCAS worked but the most important part of this story was undertreated in one sentence at the end of the video. The FAA is looking into whether there was a breakdown in communications between controllers. I’d be interested to know if this was between departure/approach controllers or departure and an en-route controller and if any of them were working alone

  • @nvkulk
    @nvkulk 9 місяців тому +1

    The next flight had some
    Lawyers ready to sue

  • @EchoJ
    @EchoJ 9 місяців тому +3

    I totally understand Erika's hesitation to fly ever again, but y'all should've ended this segment with the actual numbers on fatal car accidents versus fatal airplane accidents. Sadly, we are safer in the air than on the roads.

  • @eddie_alabama7997
    @eddie_alabama7997 9 місяців тому +6

    Seems like this happens more frequently these days….scary

  • @sakethreddy689
    @sakethreddy689 9 місяців тому +1

    Bro the flights have literally the whole space in air and still managed to intercept😂

  • @joshfriedman7099
    @joshfriedman7099 9 місяців тому +1

    Near-misses have been a problem in the US this year.

  • @mojito6380
    @mojito6380 9 місяців тому +6

    I hope the young boy gets help. It’s much more dangerous to drive for long hours over long distances than to ride in an airplane.

    • @bardo0007
      @bardo0007 9 місяців тому

      It's a woman

    • @mojito6380
      @mojito6380 9 місяців тому

      @@bardo0007 Doesn’t matter to me

  • @Anna-zo2tv
    @Anna-zo2tv 9 місяців тому +4

    TCAS working well, I see