A little misconception you had: SERN is not a dystopic overlord in the world lines beyond the 1% attractor field, in those world lines the story changes to World War 3 occurring due to an Arms Race for Time Travel. So it does make *some* sense that things would be blasted to shit. (Funny thing though, I just remembered in the 4 years between Kaguri being 6 and turning 10 apparently Akihabra gets blasted. Remember the whole episode around the song? Those train tracks were fine. Now in a modern day World War that's not too insane to think, but still.) For the Otaku Journey's angle? I'm not as convinced as with NGNL, and I'd have to think about it, but there is certainly a powerful amount of that sort of theme in the show. I'm just not sure quite if it's the largest point in the show.
HOW things would be blasted to shit? Fucking HOW?! Would Russia or someone else invade a random country JUST IN CASE someone hiding a time mashine under their bed?
@@TheWoostergirl In the VN, yes, multiple countries invade Akihabara to try and steal or destroy Suzuha's time machine. It's not really communicated *how* any of these groups besides StratFor find out about it, but they do literally start World War 3 in Akiba over the time machine technology.
Mtn Dew means a lot to Digibro, so it makes sense to make the reference while also giving it a personal spin. The After Dark channel explains that one.
Here's the difference: SAO and Eromanga were trash anime and thus he never really cared about what happens to them S;G was a beloved and complete anime and for some godforsaken reason, they decided it needed a sequel and it was an extreme letdown
LifeAura123 I actually -loved- -liked- enjoyed most of Steins;Gate 0 but it pisses me off that it was so thoughtless about the original’s material. Zero has so much potential for an interesting story, maybe one close to the original’s quality, but Npb or whoever writes these seemed to just not care
Well, it's already been confirmed for at least a couple years now that this is the stupidest timeline, so of course a sequel to Steins:Gate had to be trash.
The biggest mystery to me is that there are people who actually liked sg0 and some claimed it was even better than season 1. It terrifies me to think that i probably walk past such people on the street from time to time, not realizing how unhinged they are.
0:23 - Because Steins;Gate 0 expands upon character developments made in the anime that weren't made in the visual novel. 0:50 - Nope, it shouldn't. Attractor Fields are a thing. In fact, Suzuha coming back is part of convergence in the Beta Attractor Field. 1:08 - That's not it. Yes, Daru is loyal to Okabe, but he isn't that loyal. It's more that they have no clue how to actually finish the damn thing. 1:18 - Because Okabe is the only one that is capable of observing worldline change. She assumes fixing the world on July 28th is the only way to open a path to the Steins Gate because Beta Suzuha knows jack shit about how time travel actually works. 1:37 - These prophecies will be fulfilled no matter if Daru wants it to happen or not. This is convergence at play. It's the same thing that caused Mayuri to die every time in the original as well. If Yuki isn't gunned down, she'll die in some other way. 1:50 - See my comment regarding 0:50. 2:20 - Because it isn't really relevant. Generally, and this isn't anything confirmed, but just a bit of speculation: Convergence tries to place people in the positions they were before the shift if possible. There are occations where it isn't possible, but in most it is. 2:38 - Yeah. You're highlighting the one plot hole with the true end that no one has managed to explain properly so far. This plot hole has been known since before 0. This theory by /u/Woute on r/SteinsGate is the best explanation we've got so far. www.reddit.com/r/steinsgate/comments/8nioce/an_attempt_at_a_complete_theory_of_steinsgate/ 3:10 - Yeah, this is just mediocre, if not bad writing. I guess we can establish this as a case of 'Faint Memories' from the original (see the theory) if we were to explain this at all. If we were to explain this, I'd say Mayuri isn't shocked because of the "memory-leak" from Alpha, essentially. 4:35 - An after-story for Alpha does exist, though. There's Rebellion of the Missing Ring (Manga) and The Distant Valhalla (LN and fanmade VN). 4:40 - Linear Bounded Phenogram, Darling of Loving Vows, the Hyde of Dark Dimension Drama CD, Robotics;Notes DaSH, and the rest of SciADV exists though. Steins;Gate wasn't even the first within the universe. 5:07 - This isn't SERN though. These are either raiders/pillagers or legit military people. From which nation? That isn't relevant. 5:14 - This isn't a dystopia either. This is post-WW3. A destroyed world, essentially. The Dystopia took place in the Alpha Attractor Field, you just misunderstood the story. 5:22 - Not quite. Your confusion here is caused by a misunderstanding of something that was made clear in the original anime. 5:31 - Because this future isn't the same future. You're basing this point off your own misconception, that should have been clear from the anime alone. 5:47 - This isn't 2036 to my understanding, but before everything goes to complete shit. 5:52 - That Kagari is a left-over Kagari from the Vega & Altair storyline. She looks younger due to her hair being shorter, I guess. 6:03 - Time-leap failed. Time proceeded normally, data is still on the computer. Okabe falls brain-dead in 2025. Data gets restored. 6:12 - Not quite random. This is his former university. 7:21 - Why is this the single worst thing? I've never really understood the complaints myself. 7:57 - I really can't see your arguments about Luka and Faris. It makes sense to me. 8:01 - No. Because that's not the same future. 8:08 - Because that's not the same future. 9:25 - This is because Chiyomaru is great at making their characters know just enough about the mechanics to get us invested, yet just enough to make us unable to figure anything out about them. Kurisu didn't know anything about the limit, she was just taking an educated guess. 11:15 - I haven't really got anything to refute you with here. Tech looks the same because of the budget, I guess. Those time leaps cenes were anime original in the first place, so again, can't really use anything but the "muh budget" argument here. 14:30 - These character analyses are actually alright. 16:43 - And this is where you'll need to understand that SERN is only the first boss of the raid. There are many more raid bosses yet to beat, 17:18 - Steins;Gate is literally not a dating sim. Visual Novels != Dating Sims. Yes, Steins;Gate does have routes for each girl. Does Okabe end up with any of them? Yes, but when he does, it's this bittersweet ending. rot13.com - Use this to decode this part. It spoils literally all the alternate endings. Yhxn'f raqvat vf yvgrenyyl "Raqyrff Thvyg-gevc bire yrggvat Znlhev qvr, ohg yrg'f qb thvyg gbtrgure, bu naq yrg'f unir n onol." Fhmhun'f vf "Bfuvg v arneyl encrq fhmh. Yrg'f geniry onpx bhg bs guvf tebhaqubt qnl ybbc." - Vg'f fgngrq va vagreivrjf gung vg raqf hc orvat n unccl raqvat, ohg jr nera'g fubja nal bs guvf. Vg nyfb pneevrf gur ovggrefjrrgarff bs orvat hanoyr gb pbagnpg nal bs uvf byq sevraqf. Snevf' raqvat vf yvgrenyyl "V trg gb cebonoyl sht pngthey ohg V ybfg gur yno naq nal bs zl sevraqf sebz gurer." Xhevfh'f raqvat vf yvgrenyyl "Gehr raq phg fubeg." Znlhev'f raqvat vf yvgrenyyl "Gehr raq phg fubeg ohg jvgu Znlhev" 17:48 - I'll actually agree here. Most of SciADV's science is bullshit. That's not what's entertaining about them. It's exactly as you say. It's the closest we've got, and they manage to make that entertaining. 18:24 - I guess. Steins;Gate 0 was entertaining to me because I managed to get invested in the world, in the characters and in the further universe. 18:36 - I wouldn't say it's Steins;Gate fanfiction. And I'm gonna add this point once again, most of 0 was canon side material before becoming compiled into the VN, which got compiled into the anime. Some of this side material even predates the original anime. I would call this a part of said Otaku Hero's Journey. All in all, I can't say I think Steins;Gate 0 was perfect, but I can say that I don't think it sucks, your opinion may differ, nor did I ever hope to change your opinion, I was simply thinking that I'd help other people who are equally confused about the story understand it.
you forgot to mention the final description about SERN; they're pawn of the Olympians of 13 and was used for their Human Domination Project that aims to enslave the entirety of Humanity: that applies to ALL antagonists in the Science;Adventures series.
@@DrMecha Not quite. SERN is a pawn of the Committee of 300, the time travel project, was one of their projects to achieve their Human Domestication Project, that aims to bring humanity's population down to 1 billion and control them from there. This applies to more-or-less all antagonists. America & Russia aren't subordinates of the Committee, therefore that isn't their goal. As far as I understood, Kimijima from R;N was a rogue Committee agent.
I love how his "assistant" took the time to actually cosplay the tiny details of Kurisu, (like the folded boots) even though we can barely spot them through the reflection on Digi's glasses. xD
Your series on this was spot on. I felt betrayed while watching this, episode by episode. I introduced my gf to Steins;Gate about 3 or 4 years ago, not quite sure anymore. And she loved the series. I was so excited to jump into a sequel with her but this time both of us not knowing what is going to unfold. I wish I knew, so I wouldnt have started.
I know you don't care about the VN, but in the original Steins;Gate VN there's a scene when Okabe finds out that Nae (mr. Brown's doughter) used the time leap machine to come to the past for like 10 years (in a lot of 24h leaps) in order to avange her father, and she has a teenage brain inside a little girl's body. It seams to me that it means that what Makise meant was that the differance between the brains is relevant for just a single leap.
^ this, i don't speak english very well so it was hard for me to find how to tell digi about this, also the problem with the multileaps was the date when they made the leap machine or something like that... Also, loli psycho yandere. Never forget.
More of a problem is that if worldline change only Okabe and his Reading Steiner will keep memories so SERN never found use for that machine and it was sitting around there.Don't remember all that well VN but I think it was said she will keep doing it until she forgets why she is doing it.Something like only Okabe remembers D-Mail being sent.
Yea, this world line has nothing to do with sern, sern is basically irrelevant in the beta worldline and was only relevant in the alpha world line because of the things they found out from spying on okabe’s experiments. I guess the reason why they weren’t involved in the beta worldline with competing to get the time machine and such, is because they’re too small to be competing with America’s and Russia’s military, which makes sense
You could have made an ENTIRE SERIES about Okabe jumping back from the dystopic future to present day 2 weeks at a time, and it could have been really interesting...
I was confused about this too. He literally complained about the whole leaping back two weeks at a time thing being a grind and lame. He then proceded to complain again about them not including said grind. Pick one or the other. Do you want to see a whole series about it or not
why do you want to see 12-24 episodes of okabe waking up and time leaping on the spot? did you forget that in his first time leap they told okabe that he can do it without having a phone close due an implant? he just needs to tell amadeus to start the machine at waking up.
Lemme explain some of the stuff here. I am no critic myself but if you want your critiques to be taken seriously you should tend to do some more research about the topic to be honest, Digibro. You overlooked and misinterpreted lots of things in the first half of the video even though the second half wiith the otaku guy rant was pretty damn impressive (I'll give you that) 0:04 - You are right about Okabe starting to feel sympathetic towards Moeka closer to the end of the series. But you should have noticed that, at this wordline, Okabe is suffering from severe case of anxiety due to his PTSD. He's on meds and having therapy sessions time to time. A mention of any small bit from last summer is enough to make him go nuts. Now what would seeing his childhood friend's murderer again make him feel like? 0:28 - Yes, he changed this much. It is not an oversight. Anxiety DOES this you. 0:37 - Daru had already started working on the time leap machine waaaay before Okabe realized what he was doing, so I don't get why you're assuming Daru could only finish it with Okabe's permission. 1:36 - He cant change the course of things. That's how convergence works. It is going to happen: the law of god. Daru too knows this - he heard from Okabe about what happened to Mayuri in the alpha wordlines. 1:50 - Honestly? Don't expect to get an explanation to this. If there is a reason to why Okabe decided to visit the lab, we cant learn that anyway. Because that Okabe is gone, overwritten by the Okabe who reading steinered into that wordline. 2:10 - I'm pretty sure no one thought about this as hard as you did, Digibro. It seems more nitpicky than any of your statements before. 2:21 - They dont cease to exist because the worldine they are in is STILL active. It does not shift to the Steins;Gate worldline until Suzuha from 2036 (the smol Suzuha you see in Episode 23, not the one who got lost in time) time travels back to 2010 and shows okabe the video mail. 2:47 - I'll agree with you in this one. Those rooftop scenes are horrible and badly directed in every single episode they appear. I think those are the only part of the anime anyone cant find an excuse or explanation to. They are simply bad. 4:25 - SERN never establish their dystopia in the beta worldlines. 5:05 - Those are not SERN soldiers. SERN isnt even active after World War 3. And what you see is not supposed to be a "dystopia" either. You're mixing alpha and beta wordlines. In Alpha, SERN achieves their dystopia - In Beta, it's World War 3 where big guys are on the frontlines. Literal countries, like Russia and US, not independent shadow organizations like SERN. 5:29 - Again, you are mixing things. That shot of the city is from SERN's dystopian timeline where World War 3 NEVER occurs. So everything is intact. 5:34 - This feels like another nitpick. Is this huge enough of a plothole for you to mention it? 6:19 - This slight bit of info comes from the visual novel: Where Okabe wakes up is not a random hospital. It's Stratfor's base located under Tokyo Denki University (the one where Okabe attends). Anime apparently never tells you this info. I guess they didn't feel like adding that bit since it connects to the second half of Promised Rinascimento route which the anime did not adapt. 8:10 - Honestly you can pull this argument in literally every death in Steins;Gate. "X character dies but they will come back in the Steins Gate worldline, so who the fuck cares?" Not to mention this death scene was necessary for Okabe to pull his shit together. He finally realized that war IS real and his friends will all die, he finally realized that he has to do something. So I guess Okabe cares? 9:25 - On paper it sounds shit, yes but the fact that he'd go further as to do 3000 time leaps back to the past to fix the future is still badass. And to know that that this may have taken months in Okabe's perspective makes him seem way more determined than before. Gives you a feeling that old Okarin is back and he's going to pull it off. Also one of my favorite changes from VN to anime was Okabe deciding to time leap back to the past himself. In the VN it was more like Maho saying "Oh yeah, you can time leap like, 3000 times if you wanna go back" and Okabe was like "guess I'll do it then" which added no weight to his decision to be honest. 10:02 - That's because Okabe literally broke the machine first time he woke up/arrived in 2036. Daru (or [Kurisu] herself, I don't remember who exactly) mentions this exact same thing later in the same episode. 10:31 - I wouldn't say nothing changed. Okabe couldn't time leap 2 weeks after he arrived in 2025 because the time leap machine's capabilities were extended to 2 weeks after his "death". After that point he has to go back through time by 2 days instead of 2 weeks. 11:00 - Of course the show didn't show 25 years of Okabe time leaping back to the future and there are two reasons to that: 1) By that point 0 had only 2 episodes left so, not much runtime to cover everything. 2) It's the same thing over and over, I fail to see how showing Okabe's time leaps would be any interesting. Also let me remind you that the whole sequence where Okabe arrived in 2025 and ran to the time leap machine with the help of Amadeus and his friends wasnt even in the visual novel. The VN didnt even show anything after Okabe's first time leap. Just a small text that states Okabe time leaped 3000 times back to the past. To some people, what anime added is a nice bonus. To me, honestly, it was a needed fix and White Fox delivered it perfectly. t 18:15 - I'll keep it simple. 0 is no longer the story of the otaku hero. It's about the story of a man who is trying to escape from those delusions because he is too afraid to face the consequences of his possible wrongdoings. This is why I know 0 wouldnt appeal to everyone who watched the original series, the shift from lighthearted to depressing tone is heavy and might irk some of those people off from watching/reading it to the end. This is why you shouldn't compare the tone of 0 to OG, they are supposed to be vastly different. as because in no way 0 is trying to be like the original Steins;Gate.
2:47 - Actually Mayuri DID experience all of the horrible things that happen to her in the series. As explained in the last few episodes of the original. Everyone has steins reader ability. They are just weaker versions of it. It came to her as dreams. Dying over and over again, explained in the graveyard scene. As well as various other scenes where characters remember things in alternative timelines. SO even though the roof top actions scenes suck. Mayuri's acting can be explained.
@DrMecha You don't need any extra info from the visual novel to understand the difference between alpha and beta worldlines. Or why Amadeus didnt launch the first time Okabe landed in 2036. The anime will tell you everything you need, with leaving extra details in the VN. Just make sure you don't sleep through the entire thing, as I'm pretty sure Digibro did and he misinterpreted a lot of things because of that.
@@DrMecha That is fine for some of his mistaken points, but a lot of his fuck ups in this video were absolutely explained in the anime and made no sense for him to bring up. One thing I want to point out to the OP, I thought the 2 week time leaping was ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT when I read it in the VN and in the anime. It makes NO sense and that pissed me off. Hell, in the original S:G VN there's the route with Nae in which she consecutively jumps back from 2036 all the way back to 2010, and the leaper could ONLY DO 48 hours. It CANNOT be upgraded because it is a PHYSICAL limitation to send back memories into past selves' brains and not a technical limitation. They just hand wave away an explanation for this in SG;0 that makes no scientific sense, and one of the biggest reasons I loved the original, and the series as a whole, is how much it takes its science seriously. SG;0 introduced so many plot holes in terms of the science in the show that were not there before. Steins;Gate used to have a perfect time travel system that could actually be real which lended a lot of believability to the story. Now, just like so many other timetravel shows, it has so many holes its like swiss cheese.
You reference the dystopia from the original steins;gate but in steins;gate 0's worldline there is never a dystopia, instead there is world war 3. I don't know how you got that mixed up but saying there is a lack of bombing in the dystopia in the original steins;gate is common sense as that's the SERN dystopia world line not the WW3 world line.
The irl part at the end gave me three types of cancer, but apart from that this breakdown was very thorough and well thought-through. Good job Digibro!
That whole Artso Fartso segment almost brought me to tears. The only reason it didn't was because of the reflection of the cam looking up from the tripod in his shades. I almost laughed myself into tears from that, so the two canceled each other out. Exactly like converging timeline shit. Nifty.
I want a whole new analysis series hosted by mad scientist Artso Fartso This was very entertaining and is the video that finally made me change my opinion of Steins;Gate 0 that it isn't as good a show as I thought it was
Maiyushi and Suhuza would not disappear under parralel timeline theory, as the future would not be able to affect the past, which would be required to make that scene work. But this brings up the completely different problem that if parralel timelines is how steins gate works, then literally all of the plot is pointless, as they are not saving or changing anyone, but only just abandoning their own timelines, and the scientists don't think about this one. This would not be an issue without that damn scene...
#2 . This iteration of Suzuha is not the one we meet in episode 23 of the original. That one will be the Suzuha that we see as a child in the final episode of the series. Even the time machine models are different. The important point in this is that this Suzuha doesn't know the key to fool the world yet. Neither does Daru . So he actually accepts Okabe's hypothesis that doing things the same way would not work specially when there is just 1 shot
Daru was trying to change the future before Okabe Got involved, that's the reason daru was building the time leap machine in secret from him with Maho's help, because he didn't want to further distress his obviously psychologically damaged friend.
Okabe is kept hidden in an old building for 11 years. The moment he runs out, there just happens to be two enemy soldiers quite literally a few meters away from where he had been kept hidden this whole time. ... I have several questions.
I don't know, while S;G Zero was really bad I don't think Digi did a particulier good job of explaining why. Yes, I read some comments saying "You made me dislike S;G Zero too" but overall I don't think you converted many people to your cause. This wasn't a repeat of "SAO - A analytical diatribe", this felt more like a list of complaints than a structured breakdown of the show. For instance that you started out with the new character designs: it makes sense if the creators of Zero fucked up the basic characters designes and showed us that they don't really understand the characters then of course everything else will be bad too. While I understand that to many people this seemed like a minor gripe and you not only opened on it, you spend a lot of time on it. Lots of other times you said that you couldn't be bothered to pay attention to what was going on. That is a valid point in so far that the show does not present its exposition appealingly, but as a critik you have to sit through and soak everything in, to get the perspective of the people that are invested. So while I agree with most things said in these videos I don't think that these videos were great review of S;G Zero. Though I am gratefull that finally a big youtuber called S;G Zero out for what it is. Digi boasted that he has his formular so down to a "t" that for all 4 video he only needed two days. (One to watch the show and one to write the script), well maybe he should have spend some more time on it. Just my opinion.
That's fair, honestly. It's been years since I watched the original S;G (I binge watched it), so I definitely don't remember it as clearly, but I was still under the impression that he was getting things wrong.
Like people can change opinion that easily.Most already saw it as horrible.Go to reddit where all see it as great for some reason.And funny part is that it's not horrible compared to original but just horrible by any normal anime standard.People drop anime that doesn't have plot after 2 dropped ones.
I think he hit on all of the main points pretty well. I honestly liked hearing complaints about the series from a different perspective, because we had different criticisms I wouldn't have even thought of.
...Great points ...loved the video ...and you seem to know what the significance of a story is--and that's awesome, since Steins;Gate is here for a reason. Thank you for finding the importance in something, since whenever you do that, you gain wisdom and sense. Also, you were eating the camera.
About Moeka and Okabe. That's how PTSD works, you know. A normal situation or stimulus becames a trigger for you if that stimulus was linked to the initial stresful situation (and Moeka was the person who started all the time lop nightmare).
That Left Brain/Right Brain stuff was really insightful and thought provoking, but now all I can think about is "This Body's Not Big Enough For Both Of Us" by Edgar Cantero. Wonderful novel, I think you'd like it, Digi.
Mozart happened to write the fanfiction that most aggravates me on the planet in The Marriage Of Figaro, where one of the most fun Rossini heroes becomes a chauvinistic asshole, so really it's fitting he finds himself in one.
Just some speculations, but I believe that using a time machine to travel and transport matter happens across timelines (multiverse theory) while D-mails, D-Line, and time leaping happens in the same timeline/world line. So when a time machine from the future comes to 2010, it's transporting matter from a parallel timeline from a different point in time to that specific moment in time and space on 2010 timeline. D-mail and the other ones use a different method of transporting information. That is why when Okabe in Beta sends a video to past him on the rooftop, his timeline still stays the same, because Suzuha will basically carry that message through cross timeline transport to rooftop Okabe. That is why when Beta Okabe sends that video to Rooftop Okabe, Reading Steiner doesn't kick in, he still goes to like 18 000 BC to find Mayuri and Suzuha. That means that two Okabes had to not get to Steins;Gate timeline in order for Kurisu to get not-killed and create a timeline similar to the original Alpha timeline, where they decide to move to Beta to save Mayuri, except undoing that letter doesn't cause Kurisu to get stabbed, it gets her tasered. Reading Steiner works by giving Okabe all the possible memories of all Okabes in all different world-lines up to that point in time, so that Okabe at 7/8/2010 9:00 pm can't know using Reading Steiner what happens at 7/8/2010 9:01 pm unless he has experienced it before via time leap. There's a happy end though because Okabe basically has a shared consciousness over all world-lines so all world lines get to experience Steins;Gate. Honestly, I'm probably just rambling and there are most likely some things that I got wrong in my rant but I watched the Steins;Gate series in chronological order. SG 1-22, SG 23b, SG0 1-23, SG 23-24. It was great and I really enjoyed it. Steins;Gate is my 3rd favourite anime but not just Steins;Gate, but the whole series in that order. When watched in that order, everything fits perfectly. It's really enjoyable and I recommend you watch it in that sequence. Anyways, if you're going to rant about something, go rant about that Deja Vu movie or something.
Dude, you complain about the writers making oversights while constantly getting basic obvious shit about both Steins;Gate and Steins;Gate 0 wrong. If you tried paying attention for a second you'd have a lot less questions.
the problem with these reviews is they are 100% right, but get kinda pedantic to be entertaining, so dorks in the comments who were stupid enough to actually like this *very obvious attempt at cashing in on a popular brand* think that by being EVEN MORE pedantic it will somehow prove you wrong.
Yeah, no. If you read my comment series, there might be pedanticism around, but it certainly isn't the main point. Steins;Gate 0 is partially a cash grab, yes, but that isn't because it's a soulless shell of the original, and more because it's mostly (but not entirely) a mish-mash of various previously canon side material. There is a difference between being pedantic and pointing out where the video creator flat out has a flawed understanding.
I don't want to play Devil's Advocate for this show here nor for the S,G0 VN which wasn't much better, but: In the original/old S;G VN there WAS a case when a person jumped thousands of times to get back from the dystopian future... It was Nae, Mr. Braun's daughter, turning into a psycho loli and killing Moeka because her future self made her responsible for her father's death.
2:45 Mayuri didn't react too much when Okabe told her that someone died in the first season, either. It was the very first episode. Also Mayuri was generally pretty composed in the original Steins;gate, even when she saw Okabe almost completely covered in blood near the end of the season. Dunno, maybe it isn't the same scenario as that scene from S;G0, but i think it kinda makes sense that she acts like this.
Thank you, finally someone who also sees why it sucks. I already knew, but I was quite intrigued, by what you will mention, so I watched all 4 parts. Well done and thanks again.
This video series is incredibly poorly researched, though, and Digibro didn't understand anything from the original shows. I've written comments for all of the videos debunking most of what he said.
i don't wanna defend s;g 0 but just a few corrections 1. amadeus wasn't the only one taking care of okarin, ruka and faris did too, at least that's how it was... in the visual nover (js) 2. 10:00 i'm pretty sure they explained this. i think okabe kicked amadeus or something while he was waking up or something like that.
1. It was explained in anime too, first it was said that there are two people taking care of Okabe, then it is revealed that Amadeus is taking care of him, so even if Amadeus is one of the "people" it still leaves one person, possibly human, possibly one of his friends. (I'm not sure if it was noted who it was exactly).
I’m so glad this series of videos exist. I knew something was wrong with Steins; gate 0 when I watched it. It didn’t feel like Steins; gate and this perfectly explains why.
As for your first question. Okabe fully forgives Moeka in the Steins Gate timeline a thing that never happens ins Steins Gate 0 which occurs in the Beta worldline after Okabe canceled every single dmail thus every single interaction he has with Moeka, thus when Okabe gives 0 involvement to Moeka he can't know for sure whether or not she's with CERN that's why he got scared of her. Anyways, I dropped the video the moment you thought it was an issue, I really love Steins Gate 0 almost at the same level of the original, if you do too don't waste your time watching videos like this.
Regarding writing issue #5, there always was an explanation for how you couldn't cause Grandfather Paradoxes in Stein's Gate (inherited from the John Titor story it was built around): Alternate timelines are alternate dimensions, and traveling to the past is actually traveling to an alternate dimension whose timeline is not contingent upon the one you came from. Each world's timeline is essentially deterministic and the past of that timeline cannot be changed, but you can go to a new dimension which is altered by the very act of the time travel discovering/creating it. This also means no past is "fixed" - every "bad" timeline where Kurisu or Mayuri dies still exists, but Okabe finds a "Happy Ending" by simply world-hopping until he finds a world where neither his girlfriend and little sister analogue die.
I saw the missus sitting on the couch in the reflections of Digibro's glasses. I have to imagine that she's giggling up a storm at his performance. There's something about that I find really endearing, honestly.
WhoCanusMaximus These r all the things he said throughout the video and I proved he’s wrong. 1. The future was not irrelevant to be shown. It’s supposed to emphasize how shitty it is. Leaving it as a mystery doesn’t always workout. 2. Also what do you mean what would that even look like. If there was a time traveling machine people would go to war just to get their hands on it. One country attacks the other country or sends their spies and they go at it. The war over time travel makes sense because if u have a device like that u can basically do anything. U r gog as long as u don’t do anything stupid and kill ur existence. It’s pretty self explanatory how SERN got their hands on the military. SERN is a huge tech company probably has ties with the government. All they have to say is that this country has a device that can shift the balance of power and the government is on their side. Common sense brother. Not everything has to be written down on a piece of paper. Stein’s gate 0 has issues but that’s not one of them. Also I think the animation could have been better. 3. Seriously, u r complaining about the paper work scene. U r think too much into that. She’s an orphan they won’t just give her to some random broad because she asked. Even though it’s a dystopia the good guys have a sense of morality and ethics. 4. Also they put him in a bombed hospital because no one would expect a person to be there. The base could be attacked at any time. They can’t protect him while surviving and fleeing. It’s like hiding in plain sight. They won’t expect a person in it destroyed hospital. 5. Amadeus isn’t the only one taking care of him also the fat dude is now older which means his voice changed. His voice didn’t change because he got skinny it’s because he got older. He was already in his 20s but now he’s like in his 30s. 6. That turned into a bad ass action heroes because that’s what they had to do. They had to survive somehow. They had to learn those skills. The show won’t show every little detail of the future. It’s not trying to make the future as the main focus. It’s training to prevent the future from happening. 7. U may not care about rukoko’s death but his death has a meaning. It signifies how shitty the timeline is and it’s supposed to break down “mad scientist” even more. We know the timeline will be reset but rukoko’s death is making okabe who he is. It’s emphasizing it even more. U not feeling nothing towards it is a you problem not the show’s problem. We know it’s going to be all better at the end. His death is putting fuel on fire. I could probably go on more but don’t want to.
@@kibbi500 He made 4 long videos on how this series suck clearly very emotional. I think he had high expectations of what characters are supposed to be in his eyes, and maybe how the story was supposed to go. I think the first season is better too, But I have completely different ideas on what makes this series worse than season one than digibro has. You notice he is being emotional about it because he is cherrypicking on alot of details. Lots of things he hates about the series I love. I loved season two, wish there was more room for tying up some plotpoints and the drama could be a bit less and better timed maybe, but I still loved it.
okabe only gives moeka the labmem badge after he actually reaches steinsgate, so in this case it makes sense why he wouldn't be totally ok with moeka's presence
i was just playing the original steins gate vn and in it( steins gate itself not zero) kurisu literly says you can technicaly time leap more than a thousand times to leap 10 years.
Okabe goes back 53 hours in the original, and the adaptation doesn't change that. In episode 15, he goes back five hours to when the time leap machine was finished and then another 48 hours to have the maximum time to fix Suzuha's time machine.
Fritz Leiber already wrote a book about a war between two factions of rival time travelers. It was called The Big Time, and it won a Hugo Award in 1958. I haven't read it yet, and since it comes from the golden age of pulp sci-fi I doubt it'll feel anything like Steins;Gate, but it's there if anyone's curious.
I watched these videos after playing the VN, and holy cow. I can't believe how they massacred it. It's like there are 6 completely incompatible worldlines in the VN, so they crammed them all into one. Then instead of taking the extra time for it to make sense, they filled the remaining space with fanservice and action. A far-from-complete list of differences: The Yuki "tease" is not a tease in the VN. Mayuri's love for Okabe is a plot twist only touched on in the true ending. You see barely anything happening in the WW3 future, just dialogue and Daru's face (and he's still a little fat). Nae doesn't dress in a skimpy santa outfit. Boobs weren't inflated to the same ridiculous proportions. Moeka is always on the edge of the plot, not one of the main crew. People rarely ever meet up in huge groups together (and things tend to go badly when they do). Maho doesn't give Okabe a bunch of warnings not to get attached to Amadeus, instead claiming that she's basically just a different version of the real Kurisu - It's Okabe that has all these problems and resists becoming attached, right up to the end. He and Kurisu don't kiss in the alpha worldline, and instead she begs him to forget about her and move on. Okabe's friends/family take care of him in the coma, not Amadeus. And most importantly, the coma worldline is totally distinct from the one in which he sends the d-video back to OG Okabe. As far as I can tell, the 2 best moments from the VN are totally absent in the anime: Mayuri's monologue when she decides to leave with Suzuha, and the "gehenna" moment in the soviet worldline.
The anime was not an adaptation. Actually it is an additional, final route to the VN, like a DLC. The VN shows different Beta worldline iterations, which all of them happened at least once. But none of them is a final route. The true end is just a chapter, which has no direct connection to Vega and Altair. There are ton of worldline iterations between VA and MWC, and the anime is the final iteration which directly leads to MWC. It would have been impossible to properly adapt this VN, since it is not linear and all endings are canon (while the original was linear with alternative side-endings)
Honestly they did a good job with what they were working with. SG0 is an extremely convoluted game with three canonical endings, 2 branching storylines from near the start, and 3 endings that come in the same timeline from before the canonical endings that could still be easily viewed as canonical. There’s no way to adapt that perfectly, and what we got was overall pretty decent. It’s not like SG is really known for adapting the source well. The first one had some massive fuck ups through-out and is considered one of the best anime ever despite that.
Levente Kis Technically the Maho, Leskinen, and Kagari ending aren’t fully canonical. The Christina, Mayuri, and true endings are the only fully canonical ones. Every other one is theoretically canonical.
@@mr.stuffdoer8483 No, all of them is canonical. Steins;Gate 0 is ablut worldline iteration. There were more than thousands of failed iterations in the Beta Attractor Field until a final Okabe, whom we see in MWC found the solution. All routes are one of these iterations. They happened at least once in the story. MWC does not take place on the VA worldline too. Actually, the anime shows us the final iteration. Kurisu and Mayuri endings are not directly related to the true ending, since there were many many worldlines between VA and MWC. MWC Okabe is not the VA Okabe and not the PR Okabe either.
I think one of the things I ended up hating the most about the series was that ending with Mayuri. They made this big song and dance about how they *had* to get Mayuri back to the past, when in teend it doesn't change anything on its own, given that it shows Okabe and the others, still in the bad future, where they have to send the dmails with the videos back in time. Kind of takes away from the original moment with Mayuri too. I'm also really confused at where Okabe was planning to go with Mayuri and Suzuha after he rescued them....as the future they return to will cease to exist after they send the Dmails.
6:11 Rukako and Feiris take care of him there. That place is also protected from outside attacks, it's safe. It's not in the homebase, because it was kept secret form Suzuha. You missed a lot of details here. I hope you did not missed or misunderstood a lot more than that, because that is important and can make these videos pointless.
ILikeGuns1992 still the question remains of why keep it a secret from her? And surely it would be a lot safer to have more than 2 people look after him
Are you the moron who says this in previous videos? This was cleared long ago, if the info is not in the show or the show itself explains it in a dreadful way it doesn't make it better, it's still shit
This review series was gooooooood. You've manage to fix the mess that SG0 made. SG0 is no more and Steins gate has been reached, in my mind anyway. Truly, this brought justice to the original in spirit. Thank you.
The whole "Otaku's Journey" thing that he keeps going on about is just one lense throught which you can analysis the show. And while this fine and good (interesting), I don't think saying: "This is the point!" and implying that all other interpretations (lenses) are wrong or less valid is the right way to go about it...
@@Trixiethegoldenwitch well, I said that you implied it not that you said it. It came across that way from the way you delivered that part of the video. But I guess maybe I was reading to much into it and reaching for straws. Just because you didn't mention another lense doesn't mean that you think others are less valid. Though if it is the only lense you talk about and you don't mention any other, it again implies that "this lense is the most valid". Then again, following that logic you would have to put a disclaimer on everything ("There are other trains of thought that I didn't mention")
Astounding finale for a very entertaining series. But now you have let me wondering about "The Otaku Hero's Journey". As I understand it, you have reached this definition by yourself and I am incredibly interested in seeing you cover it deeply. I know you work hard to ensure that your content is at the same time interesting to the medium spectator and those of us who follow you more closely, so this may seem too much, but I encourage you to try and deliver an elaborated explanation of your analysis theory regarding this (the original "Hero¡s Journey" is in a book, but I don't know if this would work nowadays), as I think you may be into something that may change the way artists and critics look at the medium tropes in a radical way, making a huge difference. Whatever, great video, and I loved the live-action segment, keep it up!
Were you playing video games while you watched this series? First of all, the Dystopia is a pure Alpha world line thing. Second, they explained why Okarin was in a bombed out hospital and who took care of him. Luka and Faris are the ones who took care of him while he was in the hospital. The reason they kept him there was because not even the members of Valkyrie were supposed to know that he was still alive. They "deceived the world" by ensuring that he was effectively dead to everyone except 3 people and Amadeus Kurisu. Not saying the show was flawless but at the very least you shouldn't make such glaring omissions in your analysis.
Yeah, maybe if he’s only going to half pay attention to a show, he should put on the dub so that he can at least hear what’s being said when he gets distracted by things.
I think it was effect of we time jump 30 years so he probably felt ragggggeeee (I knew it was PR route but still felt like punching the wall as I knew there is nothing that can save future of SG already).Like I said , they just had to put every VN route and in strange places which make no sense to Anime watcher.
I think beginning and maybe episodes 1-3 had scenes from there but yes , at least one route isn't really there.And rest of them are incomplete or strangely changed or rushed or all of the above.
I didn't think this was a great sequel at all (with the Yuki false clues, the flat direction, and the bad episode pacing) but these videos are making me reconsider. Zero truly was awful ! Also, I adore these series where you completely dissect a show in several episodes. And Daru's voice change actually had me laughing histerically.
Wait, he wants a world where nobody has to die and everyone can live the way they want to.... And in so doing he re-murders Faris's father and forces Luka to live the life he had, up until that point, kind of hated? Fucking with the actual progress they had made in order to save an individual who doesn't really do anything but provide an incentive to fuck with the actual progress they made.
Again, everybody has a vague since of reading Steiner, so everybody has vague recollections of their experiences through past world lines via deja vu and/or dreams. So Mayuri wouldn't be as shocked in seeing bloodshed do to the alpha world line.
The reason why Mayuri dosen't shit her pants when Suzuha gunned down all the soldiers is becaused it's explained in the origional show and movie that they all have a small amount of "reading steiner". So Mayuri probably remembers some of the so called "dreams" she talks about.
That’s not even a question. In the original VN, alpha Mayuri actually has nightmares about dying over and over and how Okabe would look at her as if his soul was breaking. Zero just makes this from theory to stated fact, by virtue of characters like a Fubuki suffering nightmares of other worldlines.
I am bingewatching all of the stains;gate 0 sucks video and have to add something to this specific part: the reason amadeus springs back to life in every single time except the first one is because on the first one he wakes up and trips breaking the screen while in the other ones he approaches the screen and presses a key (as with a computer in standby or sleep mode)
I actually really agree with #3. It's probably my biggest gripe with Steins; Gate 0. I find that Suzuha's statement about needing to prevent a time paradox very contradictory since her long term presence in that time period already seems to be a huge factor to trigger a paradox. Plus, we never really see true consequences of a time paradox anyway so it ends up sounding like pure nonsense. 😁
Ngl I stopped watching these videos after the first one because I loved S;G0, and I didn't want it ruined. Totally agreed with just about everything you said in the first one, so I guess you've constructed a pretty darn good argument.
The 'time war' part is different because Okabe buying that steel trinket thing means that Mayuri gets the ordinary one which Kurisu finds, Kurisu's dad takes and stops him getting to Russia. Also, in certain world lines the 'time war' is inevitable so the only thing people who can move between world lines can do is try to get onto the Stein;Gate world line. There's an interesting question about sacrifice and selfishness because people must be sacrificed in order for the Steins;Gate world line to be realised. (Ferris's dad for example) It's also slightly selfish that people who can move between world lines only need worry about themselves because everything they care about will be fine in the Steins;Gate world line.
Of course Zero isn't as good as the original. The original was nearly perfect (at least the Visual Novel). Still Zero is a nice addition to the story. It's not nearly as good as the original but it is still kinda good I think. And for me Zero is far above fan fiction level. It actually brings new and interesting story ideas and characters on the table. Maho and Dr. Leskinen are great additions to the cast. Yuki is also great. Only Mayuris two other friends are kinda bad because they do literally nothing. But I guess that's the point? They most likely are here to show us that Mayuri has other things going for her besides Okarin and the Lab. Makes her feel a little bit more real if you ask me. Though I have to say Samurai Ruka and Soldier Faris are really cringy. You'd think she changes her attitude after her town gets destroyed by WW3. Still a great show I enjoyed. In some ways the anime is even better than the Visual Novel.
To be honest I've read better fanfictions... but only a handful of them (like "Infinite coffee and protection detail" is just perfect, one of the better written stories I've ever read/watched/experienced). Most is mediocre. And most stories in everything is mediocre or bad. If I had watched S;G0 before/instead of Steins;Gate, I would love it because it's science fiction with actual science parts (for example Star Wars are sf, but we don't get any explanation of the science, so it's a different genre for me). And time travel. Although probably I would consider it having a potential more than being good. It's story about things I like, but it's a mediocre story. It had unnecessary characters, unnecessary and unresolved subplots, some of the subplots made no sense, it would be better to explore some subplots more than making a lot of them and leaving them without any impact on the future or any resolution. Some of them could have impact on the character, but for me not enough. (I kinda enjoyed watching it (at the beginning), I liked the Okarin having PTSD for example and I liked the idea, but then I was mostly disappointed in what was going on).
@@tymondabrowski9922 Yes, that's it. Steins;Gate 0 isn't nearly as good as the original but it doesn't "suck". It's a mediocre story you can only enjoy when you watched the original. Still it doesn't suck. For me at least it adds something to the original and doesn't ruin it.
Yeah, that's a no from me dawg. It didn't have any of the heart and soul of the original, everything there was to love about all of the characters was taken away. There was way too much nothing going on and no pay off. There has to be fanfic out there that does this portrayal better, because fans of this series want to see these characters that they know and love interacting with one eachother, and this show missed that concept entirely.
Nah. I can only see this undervaluing the original series. it was a simple thing to have to execute: show the journey that lead our hopeless Okabe to leave the message to his "past" self to prevent his current circumstance. You could have had SERN in a much more "in the light" approach. Show how they master Time Travel. Show them using this Time Travel Mastery to wipe out Okabe's resistance group one by one until it's just Okabe and one or two people and him leaving the message to his past self.
Yes , I agree I was being sarcastic.Bad characters , no plot , trying to make references to original non stop (even EP1 Okabe is at presentation and he shouts just like in original),dating episode that served to push plot a bit and give some space for viewer in original was Suzuha doing Daru and Amane date here but main plot wasn't there so it served no purpose as there was no tension,and so on.It really is leeching on original with 3 or 4 good episodes for 24 ep anime. They really could have done anything plot wise in SG as show had so much freedom but they decided to adapt VN and they didn't even do that right and VN wasn't all that good.For example Psycho Pass season 2 was bad but I wouldn't call it shit as even original authors (before they left after first season) said that Psycho Pass universe really didn't have freedom for 2nd season.Yet SG that had all that creative freedom ended up worst.
Okabe didn't forgive Moeka and finally give her a lab member badge until after he saved Kurisu, so he was probably shitting himself after seeing her because he hadn't gotten over everything yet. Episode 24 never happened in SG0. But yeah, still a shit series though
He's saying the character arc that lead to that event happening had already occured before Okabe had given up on saving Kurisu and by proxy this story.
@@caswellweird I know, but I think Kurisu's death probably still changed how he would've acted. He forgave Moeka because everything had worked out in the end
On the point where you mentioned that the consecutive time travels wouldn't work because his evolved brain wouldn't be compatability with his old one, keep in mind that he was in a coma the entire time not having any new experiences to evolve from, meaning that for all intents and purposes, his brain never changed from the moment he fell asleep to when he woke up
"They can only leap back a certain time because the state of the mind chances too much" Okabe was in a coma so the state of the mind didn't change. That is why he could do the time leaps. Agree with most of your points but when you don't like a show you shit all over it even when not applicable. I didn't even finish the show since it was so boring and slow, but I did enjoy the VN (even though it is ~30 longer) and hearing your criticisms I strongly believe that the show is much worse than the VN. Though you wouldn't VN like it either based on your criticisms.
Questioning why Okabe was cautious about person who killed Mayuri countless times, criticising awesome future Rukako and awesome death of that character, missing everything about Okabe's coma and how and why he was kept there, rambling about what you think S;G was about for half of the video and why it was great? Really? You missed or twisted so many things in just this one video. This one is the weakest tbh. It's like you run out of material and got nothing better to say about it. Though you did great job with previous 3 videos and captured perfectly why that show is nothing like S;G 0
Suck it up nerd. The first season didn't need you to read the VN to be a good one. So much things didn't make sense in the second season logically. From the 1st season okabe should have had a closure with moeka and it was mentioned in this video. What's so awesome about a cliche death scene? When did rukaku became a cyborg able to jump from several stories high, don't take leg damage, then proceed to melee several highly trained soldiers with guns? You just closed your mind and ears when you see the title.
@@dharmdevil I watched the entire video and took in what he said, trust me. It's just that me and many other fans are sick of people with large fanbases misguiding people with lies and bent truths. If you read my comment you'll see I agreed with a few things that Digi said although mostly only things from the anime since the director was shittier.
It shouldn't. If you need to read the source material to have a grasp on the adaptation, then it's a failure of an adaptation. Saying "it makes more sense in the source" just means it has failed in that regard.
Very nice! Thoroughly entertaining as the rest of this series is. I really enjoyed the analysis parts. The passion I feel that Digi has for shitting on this series he hates is great. It's not a perfect review though. People have pointed this out before, but Digi does get a lot of the details wrong. While that doesn't detract from many of the big-picture criticisms, it DOES distract from them greatly. For example him being unable to distinguish SERN's dystopia from Post WW3 makes me feel like he hasn't been paying attention at all and casts his other interesting and well thought out criticisms into doubt. It's a "If he was wrong about X, maybe he was also wrong about Y" kinda of feeling. Still overall this was a great review series and has made me give S;G 0 a second look. Well, I actually got bored of the series a ways in and dropped it, but now I don't feel like there's much worth coming back for hahaha. Especially since I got bored in the first place. Videos like this one are really cathartic because they put the underlining thoughts and reasons into words. I hope you'll find more anime that drive you to review like this!
just as an answer to number 5 on your writing oversight roundup, that would only terminate the timeline if it wasn't operating under multiverse theory, which it would have to, since lab coat microwave guy is constantly contacting the alpha timeline. also, just a thought i had, but if you affect an earlier version of yourself, it shouldn't do anything to you, since your personal timeline wouldn't be affected at all. time travel is weird and kind of brain bending.
Ferris saying “nyan” in a post apocalyptic war stops me from taking that entire section seriously
At least she didn't fire a machine gun while screaming "nynynynynynynynynynynynyan!"
@@Szadek23 Honestly if they just went further with it like that, I could have enjoyed it more. That shit sounds absolutely hilarious.
Could be some kind of wierd ass coping mechanism for her.
That's my idea anyway.
It's the future, Elon-chan has made the world a better place clearly
Well that was again the fault of the anime adaptation
A little misconception you had: SERN is not a dystopic overlord in the world lines beyond the 1% attractor field, in those world lines the story changes to World War 3 occurring due to an Arms Race for Time Travel. So it does make *some* sense that things would be blasted to shit. (Funny thing though, I just remembered in the 4 years between Kaguri being 6 and turning 10 apparently Akihabra gets blasted. Remember the whole episode around the song? Those train tracks were fine. Now in a modern day World War that's not too insane to think, but still.)
For the Otaku Journey's angle? I'm not as convinced as with NGNL, and I'd have to think about it, but there is certainly a powerful amount of that sort of theme in the show. I'm just not sure quite if it's the largest point in the show.
"little"
I just need a chart with specifics to be convinced. Data is just delicious.
That’s not the point
HOW things would be blasted to shit? Fucking HOW?! Would Russia or someone else invade a random country JUST IN CASE someone hiding a time mashine under their bed?
@@TheWoostergirl In the VN, yes, multiple countries invade Akihabara to try and steal or destroy Suzuha's time machine. It's not really communicated *how* any of these groups besides StratFor find out about it, but they do literally start World War 3 in Akiba over the time machine technology.
14:54 Not even drinking Dr Pepper, what a hack
different mado scientisto, different brand drink~
What about a diet coke.
Noticed that too
Mtn Dew means a lot to Digibro, so it makes sense to make the reference while also giving it a personal spin. The After Dark channel explains that one.
Well, at least he's got the shorts... xD
Besides, in order to not be a hack, it should be "Dk" Pepper, not Dr Pepper, haha
5:05 No deSERNable reason.
FUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuck!
disCERNable*
@@dayvancubensis Its Kongroo! (not Congroo)
wow even I spelled it wrong, it's actually disCERNible. that's what I get for never getting my grade 10
heh, I heard that too
I’m pretty sure a world where Digi prefers SAO and Eromanga Sensei to SG:0 is already the worst timeline.
Here's the difference:
SAO and Eromanga were trash anime and thus he never really cared about what happens to them
S;G was a beloved and complete anime and for some godforsaken reason, they decided it needed a sequel and it was an extreme letdown
@@LifeAura123 i am waiting for sao weekly
LifeAura123 I actually -loved- -liked- enjoyed most of Steins;Gate 0 but it pisses me off that it was so thoughtless about the original’s material. Zero has so much potential for an interesting story, maybe one close to the original’s quality, but Npb or whoever writes these seemed to just not care
Fuck! Go back, go back! Where's my goddamn microwave?!
Well, it's already been confirmed for at least a couple years now that this is the stupidest timeline, so of course a sequel to Steins:Gate had to be trash.
That jump from the 2D space of the video essay into the 3D space of the Otaku Hero's Journey presentation blew my sleep deprived mind.
My primitive normie brain is still trying to decipher its implications.
Watch No Game No Life , easy as that.
Last time I saw it was a year or two ago. Maybe it's time to rewatch it again.
There is Zero of it too but I guess you know.I think there will be no second season for some copyright stupid reason though ...
Well. At least the light novels are published out here so we can always read it.
The biggest mystery to me is that there are people who actually liked sg0 and some claimed it was even better than season 1. It terrifies me to think that i probably walk past such people on the street from time to time, not realizing how unhinged they are.
Looks like they mistook "Dystopia" for "Post Apocalyptic."
Who? The writers? No. Beta is about WW3. He himself? Yes. He confused Alpha (dystopia) with Beta (WW3).
To be fair, they often go hand in hand.
It's a dystopia lol, not UTOPIA. So they got it right
The Once And Future King No, Digi just thinks that alpha and beta worldlines are the same thing.
As always, digibro gets basic details like alpha and beta worldlines mixed up. Yet claims to love the original S;G lol.
0:23 - Because Steins;Gate 0 expands upon character developments made in the anime that weren't made in the visual novel.
0:50 - Nope, it shouldn't. Attractor Fields are a thing. In fact, Suzuha coming back is part of convergence in the Beta Attractor Field.
1:08 - That's not it. Yes, Daru is loyal to Okabe, but he isn't that loyal. It's more that they have no clue how to actually finish the damn thing.
1:18 - Because Okabe is the only one that is capable of observing worldline change. She assumes fixing the world on July 28th is the only way to open a path to the Steins Gate because Beta Suzuha knows jack shit about how time travel actually works.
1:37 - These prophecies will be fulfilled no matter if Daru wants it to happen or not. This is convergence at play. It's the same thing that caused Mayuri to die every time in the original as well. If Yuki isn't gunned down, she'll die in some other way.
1:50 - See my comment regarding 0:50.
2:20 - Because it isn't really relevant. Generally, and this isn't anything confirmed, but just a bit of speculation: Convergence tries to place people in the positions they were before the shift if possible. There are occations where it isn't possible, but in most it is.
2:38 - Yeah. You're highlighting the one plot hole with the true end that no one has managed to explain properly so far. This plot hole has been known since before 0.
This theory by /u/Woute on r/SteinsGate is the best explanation we've got so far. www.reddit.com/r/steinsgate/comments/8nioce/an_attempt_at_a_complete_theory_of_steinsgate/
3:10 - Yeah, this is just mediocre, if not bad writing. I guess we can establish this as a case of 'Faint Memories' from the original (see the theory) if we were to explain this at all. If we were to explain this, I'd say Mayuri isn't shocked because of the "memory-leak" from Alpha, essentially.
4:35 - An after-story for Alpha does exist, though. There's Rebellion of the Missing Ring (Manga) and The Distant Valhalla (LN and fanmade VN).
4:40 - Linear Bounded Phenogram, Darling of Loving Vows, the Hyde of Dark Dimension Drama CD, Robotics;Notes DaSH, and the rest of SciADV exists though. Steins;Gate wasn't even the first within the universe.
5:07 - This isn't SERN though. These are either raiders/pillagers or legit military people. From which nation? That isn't relevant.
5:14 - This isn't a dystopia either. This is post-WW3. A destroyed world, essentially. The Dystopia took place in the Alpha Attractor Field, you just misunderstood the story.
5:22 - Not quite. Your confusion here is caused by a misunderstanding of something that was made clear in the original anime.
5:31 - Because this future isn't the same future. You're basing this point off your own misconception, that should have been clear from the anime alone.
5:47 - This isn't 2036 to my understanding, but before everything goes to complete shit.
5:52 - That Kagari is a left-over Kagari from the Vega & Altair storyline. She looks younger due to her hair being shorter, I guess.
6:03 - Time-leap failed. Time proceeded normally, data is still on the computer. Okabe falls brain-dead in 2025. Data gets restored.
6:12 - Not quite random. This is his former university.
7:21 - Why is this the single worst thing? I've never really understood the complaints myself.
7:57 - I really can't see your arguments about Luka and Faris. It makes sense to me.
8:01 - No. Because that's not the same future.
8:08 - Because that's not the same future.
9:25 - This is because Chiyomaru is great at making their characters know just enough about the mechanics to get us invested, yet just enough to make us unable to figure anything out about them. Kurisu didn't know anything about the limit, she was just taking an educated guess.
11:15 - I haven't really got anything to refute you with here. Tech looks the same because of the budget, I guess. Those time leaps cenes were anime original in the first place, so again, can't really use anything but the "muh budget" argument here.
14:30 - These character analyses are actually alright.
16:43 - And this is where you'll need to understand that SERN is only the first boss of the raid. There are many more raid bosses yet to beat,
17:18 - Steins;Gate is literally not a dating sim. Visual Novels != Dating Sims. Yes, Steins;Gate does have routes for each girl. Does Okabe end up with any of them? Yes, but when he does, it's this bittersweet ending.
rot13.com - Use this to decode this part. It spoils literally all the alternate endings.
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17:48 - I'll actually agree here. Most of SciADV's science is bullshit. That's not what's entertaining about them. It's exactly as you say. It's the closest we've got, and they manage to make that entertaining.
18:24 - I guess. Steins;Gate 0 was entertaining to me because I managed to get invested in the world, in the characters and in the further universe.
18:36 - I wouldn't say it's Steins;Gate fanfiction. And I'm gonna add this point once again, most of 0 was canon side material before becoming compiled into the VN, which got compiled into the anime. Some of this side material even predates the original anime. I would call this a part of said Otaku Hero's Journey.
All in all, I can't say I think Steins;Gate 0 was perfect, but I can say that I don't think it sucks, your opinion may differ, nor did I ever hope to change your opinion, I was simply thinking that I'd help other people who are equally confused about the story understand it.
you forgot to mention the final description about SERN; they're pawn of the Olympians of 13 and was used for their Human Domination Project that aims to enslave the entirety of Humanity: that applies to ALL antagonists in the Science;Adventures series.
@@DrMecha Not quite. SERN is a pawn of the Committee of 300, the time travel project, was one of their projects to achieve their Human Domestication Project, that aims to bring humanity's population down to 1 billion and control them from there. This applies to more-or-less all antagonists. America & Russia aren't subordinates of the Committee, therefore that isn't their goal. As far as I understood, Kimijima from R;N was a rogue Committee agent.
@@SeralyneYT the point still stand though, SERN are just pawn of a force that aims to enslave humanity.
This. I hate Steins;Gate 0, but Digi is so wrong about everything. Digi, I like you, but even I'm tired of your bullshit.
Thanks for being so consistent with your responses to these videos
Susuha in the 0 timeline doesn't come from a distopia but from a world ravaged by war
It really bothers me how he keeps confusing alpha (SERN dystopia) and beta (WWIII) world lines.
Don’t mind it, he is doing the video to trigger people anyway.
Artso Fartso must be Hentai Samurai's relative!
Is he gonna release his relative? We need more of the hentai samurai
The Chin to his Bruce Lee.
I love how his "assistant" took the time to actually cosplay the tiny details of Kurisu, (like the folded boots) even though we can barely spot them through the reflection on Digi's glasses.
xD
10:04 That's because the first time, he knocked over the terminal when he woke up
you mixed up the Alpha and Beta world lines a lot
Your series on this was spot on. I felt betrayed while watching this, episode by episode. I introduced my gf to Steins;Gate about 3 or 4 years ago, not quite sure anymore. And she loved the series. I was so excited to jump into a sequel with her but this time both of us not knowing what is going to unfold. I wish I knew, so I wouldnt have started.
Lol, "dystopian groceries" got me
WW3 childcare was hitting the floor though.
Stein Gate 0 has legal loli
Stain Gate Original has no legal loli
Hence Zero > Original
Checkmate Digi!
Eh, that's fair.
Lolis need to be cute.She looks like goblin at one point lol.
The Devil's Advocate And Japanese Shaman Girls
Best selling points of show - Memes ! Oh Linthalo ...
@@nemanjastankovic7200 Better than the mistakes Digi has made in these 4 videos ;)
I know you don't care about the VN, but in the original Steins;Gate VN there's a scene when Okabe finds out that Nae (mr. Brown's doughter) used the time leap machine to come to the past for like 10 years (in a lot of 24h leaps) in order to avange her father, and she has a teenage brain inside a little girl's body. It seams to me that it means that what Makise meant was that the differance between the brains is relevant for just a single leap.
true that.
^ this, i don't speak english very well so it was hard for me to find how to tell digi about this, also the problem with the multileaps was the date when they made the leap machine or something like that...
Also, loli psycho yandere.
Never forget.
More of a problem is that if worldline change only Okabe and his Reading Steiner will keep memories so SERN never found use for that machine and it was sitting around there.Don't remember all that well VN but I think it was said she will keep doing it until she forgets why she is doing it.Something like only Okabe remembers D-Mail being sent.
U can see tha scene in deja vu movie..when nae kill moeka
I like to think government services are so out of touch that they kept on going even with the end of the world and never noticed.
5:05 Uhh, Suzuha never said the Beta Timeline was a dystopia. You are confusing it with the Alpha Timeline.
Yep I agree
Worldline, not timeline.
Yea, this world line has nothing to do with sern, sern is basically irrelevant in the beta worldline and was only relevant in the alpha world line because of the things they found out from spying on okabe’s experiments. I guess the reason why they weren’t involved in the beta worldline with competing to get the time machine and such, is because they’re too small to be competing with America’s and Russia’s military, which makes sense
Sidma this guy’s video has sooo many holes man. Some is just common sense which he doesn’t get while some of the shit he’s saying is just nitpicking.
his video is filled with more inconsistencies and holes than he claims the show itself has.
*D I G I O O F*
10/10 , fantastic analysis. Loving the setup you've made especially the Dr. pepper shorts ;)
You could have made an ENTIRE SERIES about Okabe jumping back from the dystopic future to present day 2 weeks at a time, and it could have been really interesting...
Thats what I was thinking when I finally got to that part as well.
Don't give them ideas for Steins;Gate -1.
I was confused about this too. He literally complained about the whole leaping back two weeks at a time thing being a grind and lame. He then proceded to complain again about them not including said grind. Pick one or the other. Do you want to see a whole series about it or not
why do you want to see 12-24 episodes of okabe waking up and time leaping on the spot? did you forget that in his first time leap they told okabe that he can do it without having a phone close due an implant? he just needs to tell amadeus to start the machine at waking up.
@@ulisesavila2879 sure, they could *choose* to make things boring and simple instead of making it interesting
This is my favourite episode of cinema sins!
easy since cinema sins is terrible
Lemme explain some of the stuff here.
I am no critic myself but if you want your critiques to be taken seriously you should tend to do some more research about the topic to be honest, Digibro. You overlooked and misinterpreted lots of things in the first half of the video even though the second half wiith the otaku guy rant was pretty damn impressive (I'll give you that)
0:04 - You are right about Okabe starting to feel sympathetic towards Moeka closer to the end of the series. But you should have noticed that, at this wordline, Okabe is suffering from severe case of anxiety due to his PTSD. He's on meds and having therapy sessions time to time. A mention of any small bit from last summer is enough to make him go nuts. Now what would seeing his childhood friend's murderer again make him feel like?
0:28 - Yes, he changed this much. It is not an oversight. Anxiety DOES this you.
0:37 - Daru had already started working on the time leap machine waaaay before Okabe realized what he was doing, so I don't get why you're assuming Daru could only finish it with Okabe's permission.
1:36 - He cant change the course of things. That's how convergence works. It is going to happen: the law of god. Daru too knows this - he heard from Okabe about what happened to Mayuri in the alpha wordlines.
1:50 - Honestly? Don't expect to get an explanation to this. If there is a reason to why Okabe decided to visit the lab, we cant learn that anyway. Because that Okabe is gone, overwritten by the Okabe who reading steinered into that wordline.
2:10 - I'm pretty sure no one thought about this as hard as you did, Digibro. It seems more nitpicky than any of your statements before.
2:21 - They dont cease to exist because the worldine they are in is STILL active. It does not shift to the Steins;Gate worldline until Suzuha from 2036 (the smol Suzuha you see in Episode 23, not the one who got lost in time) time travels back to 2010 and shows okabe the video mail.
2:47 - I'll agree with you in this one. Those rooftop scenes are horrible and badly directed in every single episode they appear. I think those are the only part of the anime anyone cant find an excuse or explanation to. They are simply bad.
4:25 - SERN never establish their dystopia in the beta worldlines.
5:05 - Those are not SERN soldiers. SERN isnt even active after World War 3. And what you see is not supposed to be a "dystopia" either. You're mixing alpha and beta wordlines. In Alpha, SERN achieves their dystopia - In Beta, it's World War 3 where big guys are on the frontlines. Literal countries, like Russia and US, not independent shadow organizations like SERN.
5:29 - Again, you are mixing things. That shot of the city is from SERN's dystopian timeline where World War 3 NEVER occurs. So everything is intact.
5:34 - This feels like another nitpick. Is this huge enough of a plothole for you to mention it?
6:19 - This slight bit of info comes from the visual novel: Where Okabe wakes up is not a random hospital. It's Stratfor's base located under Tokyo Denki University (the one where Okabe attends). Anime apparently never tells you this info. I guess they didn't feel like adding that bit since it connects to the second half of Promised Rinascimento route which the anime did not adapt.
8:10 - Honestly you can pull this argument in literally every death in Steins;Gate. "X character dies but they will come back in the Steins Gate worldline, so who the fuck cares?" Not to mention this death scene was necessary for Okabe to pull his shit together. He finally realized that war IS real and his friends will all die, he finally realized that he has to do something. So I guess Okabe cares?
9:25 - On paper it sounds shit, yes but the fact that he'd go further as to do 3000 time leaps back to the past to fix the future is still badass. And to know that that this may have taken months in Okabe's perspective makes him seem way more determined than before. Gives you a feeling that old Okarin is back and he's going to pull it off.
Also one of my favorite changes from VN to anime was Okabe deciding to time leap back to the past himself. In the VN it was more like Maho saying "Oh yeah, you can time leap like, 3000 times if you wanna go back" and Okabe was like "guess I'll do it then" which added no weight to his decision to be honest.
10:02 - That's because Okabe literally broke the machine first time he woke up/arrived in 2036. Daru (or [Kurisu] herself, I don't remember who exactly) mentions this exact same thing later in the same episode.
10:31 - I wouldn't say nothing changed. Okabe couldn't time leap 2 weeks after he arrived in 2025 because the time leap machine's capabilities were extended to 2 weeks after his "death". After that point he has to go back through time by 2 days instead of 2 weeks.
11:00 - Of course the show didn't show 25 years of Okabe time leaping back to the future and there are two reasons to that: 1) By that point 0 had only 2 episodes left so, not much runtime to cover everything. 2) It's the same thing over and over, I fail to see how showing Okabe's time leaps would be any interesting.
Also let me remind you that the whole sequence where Okabe arrived in 2025 and ran to the time leap machine with the help of Amadeus and his friends wasnt even in the visual novel. The VN didnt even show anything after Okabe's first time leap. Just a small text that states Okabe time leaped 3000 times back to the past. To some people, what anime added is a nice bonus. To me, honestly, it was a needed fix and White Fox delivered it perfectly. t
18:15 - I'll keep it simple. 0 is no longer the story of the otaku hero. It's about the story of a man who is trying to escape from those delusions because he is too afraid to face the consequences of his possible wrongdoings. This is why I know 0 wouldnt appeal to everyone who watched the original series, the shift from lighthearted to depressing tone is heavy and might irk some of those people off from watching/reading it to the end.
This is why you shouldn't compare the tone of 0 to OG, they are supposed to be vastly different. as because in no way 0 is trying to be like the original Steins;Gate.
2:47 - Actually Mayuri DID experience all of the horrible things that happen to her in the series. As explained in the last few episodes of the original. Everyone has steins reader ability. They are just weaker versions of it. It came to her as dreams. Dying over and over again, explained in the graveyard scene. As well as various other scenes where characters remember things in alternative timelines. SO even though the roof top actions scenes suck. Mayuri's acting can be explained.
Thank you lol, it's surreal watching this vid and still getting a sense he didn't watch the anime at all.
@@cynniminnii it's not the anime he didn't watch, but the Visual Novel he didn't read.
@DrMecha You don't need any extra info from the visual novel to understand the difference between alpha and beta worldlines. Or why Amadeus didnt launch the first time Okabe landed in 2036. The anime will tell you everything you need, with leaving extra details in the VN. Just make sure you don't sleep through the entire thing, as I'm pretty sure Digibro did and he misinterpreted a lot of things because of that.
@@DrMecha That is fine for some of his mistaken points, but a lot of his fuck ups in this video were absolutely explained in the anime and made no sense for him to bring up. One thing I want to point out to the OP, I thought the 2 week time leaping was ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT when I read it in the VN and in the anime. It makes NO sense and that pissed me off.
Hell, in the original S:G VN there's the route with Nae in which she consecutively jumps back from 2036 all the way back to 2010, and the leaper could ONLY DO 48 hours. It CANNOT be upgraded because it is a PHYSICAL limitation to send back memories into past selves' brains and not a technical limitation. They just hand wave away an explanation for this in SG;0 that makes no scientific sense, and one of the biggest reasons I loved the original, and the series as a whole, is how much it takes its science seriously.
SG;0 introduced so many plot holes in terms of the science in the show that were not there before. Steins;Gate used to have a perfect time travel system that could actually be real which lended a lot of believability to the story. Now, just like so many other timetravel shows, it has so many holes its like swiss cheese.
You reference the dystopia from the original steins;gate but in steins;gate 0's worldline there is never a dystopia, instead there is world war 3. I don't know how you got that mixed up but saying there is a lack of bombing in the dystopia in the original steins;gate is common sense as that's the SERN dystopia world line not the WW3 world line.
When even cirno is correcting you...
The irl part at the end gave me three types of cancer, but apart from that this breakdown was very thorough and well thought-through. Good job Digibro!
I’ve read so much of the other crappy Steins;Gate spin off visual novels that steins;gate 0 actually seems like a masterpiece
Do you know Japanese?
Sidma I read the translated versions
kurisu's route in darling is a masterpiece compared to s;g 0 tbh
I recommend checking out Mr Braun's backstory spinoff. i liked it
kendog84 I liked it too
That whole Artso Fartso segment almost brought me to tears. The only reason it didn't was because of the reflection of the cam looking up from the tripod in his shades. I almost laughed myself into tears from that, so the two canceled each other out. Exactly like converging timeline shit. Nifty.
I want a whole new analysis series hosted by mad scientist Artso Fartso
This was very entertaining and is the video that finally made me change my opinion of Steins;Gate 0 that it isn't as good a show as I thought it was
Congratulations, you've became a wrong-sider.
@@xypheryandrew5562 Truly a wrong-sider indeed, my friend. We don't need them.
Same realization here
Thats kind of sad considering that Digi's hatred of sg0 comes from him misunderstanding a lot of it lmao
@@avianben3910 I know right
Maiyushi and Suhuza would not disappear under parralel timeline theory, as the future would not be able to affect the past, which would be required to make that scene work. But this brings up the completely different problem that if parralel timelines is how steins gate works, then literally all of the plot is pointless, as they are not saving or changing anyone, but only just abandoning their own timelines, and the scientists don't think about this one. This would not be an issue without that damn scene...
You mixed Alpha timeline's apocalypse with Beta's and that was annoying.
#2 . This iteration of Suzuha is not the one we meet in episode 23 of the original. That one will be the Suzuha that we see as a child in the final episode of the series. Even the time machine models are different.
The important point in this is that this Suzuha doesn't know the key to fool the world yet. Neither does Daru . So he actually accepts Okabe's hypothesis that doing things the same way would not work specially when there is just 1 shot
Daru was trying to change the future before Okabe Got involved, that's the reason daru was building the time leap machine in secret from him with Maho's help, because he didn't want to further distress his obviously psychologically damaged friend.
I was having a really bad morning but "this ain't that" & the special appearance of Artso Fartso made me so incredibly happy thank you digi
6:37
Luka and Faris actually serve as the ones who change Okabe's diapers.
Okabe is kept hidden in an old building for 11 years. The moment he runs out, there just happens to be two enemy soldiers quite literally a few meters away from where he had been kept hidden this whole time. ... I have several questions.
I don't know, while S;G Zero was really bad I don't think Digi did a particulier good job of explaining why. Yes, I read some comments saying "You made me dislike S;G Zero too" but overall I don't think you converted many people to your cause. This wasn't a repeat of "SAO - A analytical diatribe", this felt more like a list of complaints than a structured breakdown of the show. For instance that you started out with the new character designs: it makes sense if the creators of Zero fucked up the basic characters designes and showed us that they don't really understand the characters then of course everything else will be bad too. While I understand that to many people this seemed like a minor gripe and you not only opened on it, you spend a lot of time on it. Lots of other times you said that you couldn't be bothered to pay attention to what was going on. That is a valid point in so far that the show does not present its exposition appealingly, but as a critik you have to sit through and soak everything in, to get the perspective of the people that are invested.
So while I agree with most things said in these videos I don't think that these videos were great review of S;G Zero. Though I am gratefull that finally a big youtuber called S;G Zero out for what it is. Digi boasted that he has his formular so down to a "t" that for all 4 video he only needed two days. (One to watch the show and one to write the script), well maybe he should have spend some more time on it. Just my opinion.
^
That's fair, honestly.
It's been years since I watched the original S;G (I binge watched it), so I definitely don't remember it as clearly, but I was still under the impression that he was getting things wrong.
Like people can change opinion that easily.Most already saw it as horrible.Go to reddit where all see it as great for some reason.And funny part is that it's not horrible compared to original but just horrible by any normal anime standard.People drop anime that doesn't have plot after 2 dropped ones.
I think he hit on all of the main points pretty well. I honestly liked hearing complaints about the series from a different perspective, because we had different criticisms I wouldn't have even thought of.
I'm sure if Digi got himself a PhoneWave, he will delete S;G 0.
14:45 your assistant would have said "I'm not your damn assistant"
Brah assistant is thicker than thick can't look away from her thickness
...Great points ...loved the video ...and you seem to know what the significance of a story is--and that's awesome, since Steins;Gate is here for a reason. Thank you for finding the importance in something, since whenever you do that, you gain wisdom and sense. Also, you were eating the camera.
About Moeka and Okabe. That's how PTSD works, you know. A normal situation or stimulus becames a trigger for you if that stimulus was linked to the initial stresful situation (and Moeka was the person who started all the time lop nightmare).
That Left Brain/Right Brain stuff was really insightful and thought provoking, but now all I can think about is "This Body's Not Big Enough For Both Of Us" by Edgar Cantero. Wonderful novel, I think you'd like it, Digi.
digi go the gym and stop drinking
Mozart happened to write the fanfiction that most aggravates me on the planet in The Marriage Of Figaro, where one of the most fun Rossini heroes becomes a chauvinistic asshole, so really it's fitting he finds himself in one.
Just some speculations, but I believe that using a time machine to travel and transport matter happens across timelines (multiverse theory) while D-mails, D-Line, and time leaping happens in the same timeline/world line. So when a time machine from the future comes to 2010, it's transporting matter from a parallel timeline from a different point in time to that specific moment in time and space on 2010 timeline. D-mail and the other ones use a different method of transporting information. That is why when Okabe in Beta sends a video to past him on the rooftop, his timeline still stays the same, because Suzuha will basically carry that message through cross timeline transport to rooftop Okabe. That is why when Beta Okabe sends that video to Rooftop Okabe, Reading Steiner doesn't kick in, he still goes to like 18 000 BC to find Mayuri and Suzuha.
That means that two Okabes had to not get to Steins;Gate timeline in order for Kurisu to get not-killed and create a timeline similar to the original Alpha timeline, where they decide to move to Beta to save Mayuri, except undoing that letter doesn't cause Kurisu to get stabbed, it gets her tasered. Reading Steiner works by giving Okabe all the possible memories of all Okabes in all different world-lines up to that point in time, so that Okabe at 7/8/2010 9:00 pm can't know using Reading Steiner what happens at 7/8/2010 9:01 pm unless he has experienced it before via time leap. There's a happy end though because Okabe basically has a shared consciousness over all world-lines so all world lines get to experience Steins;Gate.
Honestly, I'm probably just rambling and there are most likely some things that I got wrong in my rant but I watched the Steins;Gate series in chronological order. SG 1-22, SG 23b, SG0 1-23, SG 23-24. It was great and I really enjoyed it. Steins;Gate is my 3rd favourite anime but not just Steins;Gate, but the whole series in that order. When watched in that order, everything fits perfectly. It's really enjoyable and I recommend you watch it in that sequence.
Anyways, if you're going to rant about something, go rant about that Deja Vu movie or something.
Dude, you complain about the writers making oversights while constantly getting basic obvious shit about both Steins;Gate and Steins;Gate 0 wrong. If you tried paying attention for a second you'd have a lot less questions.
Probably is desensetized to violence thanks to those residual memories of dying in multiple ways herself
the problem with these reviews is they are 100% right, but get kinda pedantic to be entertaining, so dorks in the comments who were stupid enough to actually like this *very obvious attempt at cashing in on a popular brand* think that by being EVEN MORE pedantic it will somehow prove you wrong.
Lol. It would seem so. Lotsa smart folks around...
Yeah, no. If you read my comment series, there might be pedanticism around, but it certainly isn't the main point. Steins;Gate 0 is partially a cash grab, yes, but that isn't because it's a soulless shell of the original, and more because it's mostly (but not entirely) a mish-mash of various previously canon side material. There is a difference between being pedantic and pointing out where the video creator flat out has a flawed understanding.
I don't want to play Devil's Advocate for this show here nor for the S,G0 VN which wasn't much better, but: In the original/old S;G VN there WAS a case when a person jumped thousands of times to get back from the dystopian future... It was Nae, Mr. Braun's daughter, turning into a psycho loli and killing Moeka because her future self made her responsible for her father's death.
2:45 Mayuri didn't react too much when Okabe told her that someone died in the first season, either. It was the very first episode. Also Mayuri was generally pretty composed in the original Steins;gate, even when she saw Okabe almost completely covered in blood near the end of the season. Dunno, maybe it isn't the same scenario as that scene from S;G0, but i think it kinda makes sense that she acts like this.
Thank you, finally someone who also sees why it sucks.
I already knew, but I was quite intrigued, by what you will mention, so I watched all 4 parts.
Well done and thanks again.
This video series is incredibly poorly researched, though, and Digibro didn't understand anything from the original shows. I've written comments for all of the videos debunking most of what he said.
i don't wanna defend s;g 0 but just a few corrections
1. amadeus wasn't the only one taking care of okarin, ruka and faris did too, at least that's how it was... in the visual nover (js)
2. 10:00 i'm pretty sure they explained this. i think okabe kicked amadeus or something while he was waking up or something like that.
G A S P
1. It was explained in anime too, first it was said that there are two people taking care of Okabe, then it is revealed that Amadeus is taking care of him, so even if Amadeus is one of the "people" it still leaves one person, possibly human, possibly one of his friends. (I'm not sure if it was noted who it was exactly).
I’m so glad this series of videos exist. I knew something was wrong with Steins; gate 0 when I watched it. It didn’t feel like Steins; gate and this perfectly explains why.
As for your first question. Okabe fully forgives Moeka in the Steins Gate timeline a thing that never happens ins Steins Gate 0 which occurs in the Beta worldline after Okabe canceled every single dmail thus every single interaction he has with Moeka, thus when Okabe gives 0 involvement to Moeka he can't know for sure whether or not she's with CERN that's why he got scared of her. Anyways, I dropped the video the moment you thought it was an issue, I really love Steins Gate 0 almost at the same level of the original, if you do too don't waste your time watching videos like this.
Regarding writing issue #5, there always was an explanation for how you couldn't cause Grandfather Paradoxes in Stein's Gate (inherited from the John Titor story it was built around): Alternate timelines are alternate dimensions, and traveling to the past is actually traveling to an alternate dimension whose timeline is not contingent upon the one you came from. Each world's timeline is essentially deterministic and the past of that timeline cannot be changed, but you can go to a new dimension which is altered by the very act of the time travel discovering/creating it. This also means no past is "fixed" - every "bad" timeline where Kurisu or Mayuri dies still exists, but Okabe finds a "Happy Ending" by simply world-hopping until he finds a world where neither his girlfriend and little sister analogue die.
It makes me think that the scriptor didn't rewatched the orginal series and he just tried to write everything by his memory
I saw the missus sitting on the couch in the reflections of Digibro's glasses. I have to imagine that she's giggling up a storm at his performance. There's something about that I find really endearing, honestly.
Um excuse me Digibro, but you messed up dystopia and post apocalyptic, and that CLEARLY ruins your whole argument.
WhoCanusMaximus I agree with u I found soooo many holes in the things he was saying.
WhoCanusMaximus These r all the things he said throughout the video and I proved he’s wrong.
1. The future was not irrelevant to be shown. It’s supposed to emphasize how shitty it is. Leaving it as a mystery doesn’t always workout.
2. Also what do you mean what would that even look like. If there was a time traveling machine people would go to war just to get their hands on it. One country attacks the other country or sends their spies and they go at it. The war over time travel makes sense because if u have a device like that u can basically do anything. U r gog as long as u don’t do anything stupid and kill ur existence. It’s pretty self explanatory how SERN got their hands on the military. SERN is a huge tech company probably has ties with the government. All they have to say is that this country has a device that can shift the balance of power and the government is on their side. Common sense brother. Not everything has to be written down on a piece of paper. Stein’s gate 0 has issues but that’s not one of them. Also I think the animation could have been better.
3. Seriously, u r complaining about the paper work scene. U r think too much into that. She’s an orphan they won’t just give her to some random broad because she asked. Even though it’s a dystopia the good guys have a sense of morality and ethics.
4. Also they put him in a bombed hospital because no one would expect a person to be there. The base could be attacked at any time. They can’t protect him while surviving and fleeing. It’s like hiding in plain sight. They won’t expect a person in it destroyed hospital.
5. Amadeus isn’t the only one taking care of him also the fat dude is now older which means his voice changed. His voice didn’t change because he got skinny it’s because he got older. He was already in his 20s but now he’s like in his 30s.
6. That turned into a bad ass action heroes because that’s what they had to do. They had to survive somehow. They had to learn those skills. The show won’t show every little detail of the future. It’s not trying to make the future as the main focus. It’s training to prevent the future from happening.
7. U may not care about rukoko’s death but his death has a meaning. It signifies how shitty the timeline is and it’s supposed to break down “mad scientist” even more. We know the timeline will be reset but rukoko’s death is making okabe who he is. It’s emphasizing it even more. U not feeling nothing towards it is a you problem not the show’s problem. We know it’s going to be all better at the end. His death is putting fuel on fire.
I could probably go on more but don’t want to.
@@kibbi500 He made 4 long videos on how this series suck clearly very emotional. I think he had high expectations of what characters are supposed to be in his eyes, and maybe how the story was supposed to go. I think the first season is better too, But I have completely different ideas on what makes this series worse than season one than digibro has. You notice he is being emotional about it because he is cherrypicking on alot of details. Lots of things he hates about the series I love. I loved season two, wish there was more room for tying up some plotpoints and the drama could be a bit less and better timed maybe, but I still loved it.
praetoriancorps He makes it sound like it’s a 1/10 even though it’s not. Yes it has flaws I will not deny that but it’s not straight up garbage
@@kibbi500 Can't agree more.
@6:34 "...how is she changing his bedpans?"
/Amedeus reacts in embarrassed shock
This is God level editing.
okabe only gives moeka the labmem badge after he actually reaches steinsgate, so in this case it makes sense why he wouldn't be totally ok with moeka's presence
i was just playing the original steins gate vn and in it( steins gate itself not zero) kurisu literly says you can technicaly time leap more than a thousand times to leap 10 years.
Okabe goes back 53 hours in the original, and the adaptation doesn't change that. In episode 15, he goes back five hours to when the time leap machine was finished and then another 48 hours to have the maximum time to fix Suzuha's time machine.
@@NoAgendaStudios you know what. Your right it's even used in the series itself.
bruh, you know that the alpha and beta timelines have different endings so comparing them is pretty dumb right?
Fritz Leiber already wrote a book about a war between two factions of rival time travelers. It was called The Big Time, and it won a Hugo Award in 1958. I haven't read it yet, and since it comes from the golden age of pulp sci-fi I doubt it'll feel anything like Steins;Gate, but it's there if anyone's curious.
I watched these videos after playing the VN, and holy cow. I can't believe how they massacred it. It's like there are 6 completely incompatible worldlines in the VN, so they crammed them all into one. Then instead of taking the extra time for it to make sense, they filled the remaining space with fanservice and action. A far-from-complete list of differences:
The Yuki "tease" is not a tease in the VN. Mayuri's love for Okabe is a plot twist only touched on in the true ending. You see barely anything happening in the WW3 future, just dialogue and Daru's face (and he's still a little fat). Nae doesn't dress in a skimpy santa outfit. Boobs weren't inflated to the same ridiculous proportions. Moeka is always on the edge of the plot, not one of the main crew. People rarely ever meet up in huge groups together (and things tend to go badly when they do). Maho doesn't give Okabe a bunch of warnings not to get attached to Amadeus, instead claiming that she's basically just a different version of the real Kurisu - It's Okabe that has all these problems and resists becoming attached, right up to the end. He and Kurisu don't kiss in the alpha worldline, and instead she begs him to forget about her and move on. Okabe's friends/family take care of him in the coma, not Amadeus. And most importantly, the coma worldline is totally distinct from the one in which he sends the d-video back to OG Okabe.
As far as I can tell, the 2 best moments from the VN are totally absent in the anime: Mayuri's monologue when she decides to leave with Suzuha, and the "gehenna" moment in the soviet worldline.
The anime was not an adaptation. Actually it is an additional, final route to the VN, like a DLC. The VN shows different Beta worldline iterations, which all of them happened at least once. But none of them is a final route. The true end is just a chapter, which has no direct connection to Vega and Altair. There are ton of worldline iterations between VA and MWC, and the anime is the final iteration which directly leads to MWC.
It would have been impossible to properly adapt this VN, since it is not linear and all endings are canon (while the original was linear with alternative side-endings)
Honestly they did a good job with what they were working with. SG0 is an extremely convoluted game with three canonical endings, 2 branching storylines from near the start, and 3 endings that come in the same timeline from before the canonical endings that could still be easily viewed as canonical.
There’s no way to adapt that perfectly, and what we got was overall pretty decent. It’s not like SG is really known for adapting the source well. The first one had some massive fuck ups through-out and is considered one of the best anime ever despite that.
@@mr.stuffdoer8483 6 canonical endings, not 3.
Levente Kis Technically the Maho, Leskinen, and Kagari ending aren’t fully canonical. The Christina, Mayuri, and true endings are the only fully canonical ones. Every other one is theoretically canonical.
@@mr.stuffdoer8483 No, all of them is canonical. Steins;Gate 0 is ablut worldline iteration. There were more than thousands of failed iterations in the Beta Attractor Field until a final Okabe, whom we see in MWC found the solution. All routes are one of these iterations. They happened at least once in the story.
MWC does not take place on the VA worldline too. Actually, the anime shows us the final iteration. Kurisu and Mayuri endings are not directly related to the true ending, since there were many many worldlines between VA and MWC. MWC Okabe is not the VA Okabe and not the PR Okabe either.
I think one of the things I ended up hating the most about the series was that ending with Mayuri. They made this big song and dance about how they *had* to get Mayuri back to the past, when in teend it doesn't change anything on its own, given that it shows Okabe and the others, still in the bad future, where they have to send the dmails with the videos back in time. Kind of takes away from the original moment with Mayuri too. I'm also really confused at where Okabe was planning to go with Mayuri and Suzuha after he rescued them....as the future they return to will cease to exist after they send the Dmails.
6:11 Rukako and Feiris take care of him there. That place is also protected from outside attacks, it's safe. It's not in the homebase, because it was kept secret form Suzuha.
You missed a lot of details here. I hope you did not missed or misunderstood a lot more than that, because that is important and can make these videos pointless.
Lol find my comment on some other dumbass who said the same thing
ILikeGuns1992 still the question remains of why keep it a secret from her? And surely it would be a lot safer to have more than 2 people look after him
Are you the moron who says this in previous videos?
This was cleared long ago, if the info is not in the show or the show itself explains it in a dreadful way it doesn't make it better, it's still shit
The place was so safe that he got almost killed five minutes after the wake up running into enemies, yeah.
@@Mattia94283 another careful viewer. He got out of the shelter.
This review series was gooooooood. You've manage to fix the mess that SG0 made. SG0 is no more and Steins gate has been reached, in my mind anyway. Truly, this brought justice to the original in spirit. Thank you.
The whole "Otaku's Journey" thing that he keeps going on about is just one lense throught which you can analysis the show. And while this fine and good (interesting), I don't think saying: "This is the point!" and implying that all other interpretations (lenses) are wrong or less valid is the right way to go about it...
No one said any other lenses were wrong or less valid.
@@Trixiethegoldenwitch hi digibruh
@@Trixiethegoldenwitch well, I said that you implied it not that you said it. It came across that way from the way you delivered that part of the video. But I guess maybe I was reading to much into it and reaching for straws. Just because you didn't mention another lense doesn't mean that you think others are less valid. Though if it is the only lense you talk about and you don't mention any other, it again implies that "this lense is the most valid". Then again, following that logic you would have to put a disclaimer on everything ("There are other trains of thought that I didn't mention")
Astounding finale for a very entertaining series.
But now you have let me wondering about "The Otaku Hero's Journey". As I understand it, you have reached this definition by yourself and I am incredibly interested in seeing you cover it deeply. I know you work hard to ensure that your content is at the same time interesting to the medium spectator and those of us who follow you more closely, so this may seem too much, but I encourage you to try and deliver an elaborated explanation of your analysis theory regarding this (the original "Hero¡s Journey" is in a book, but I don't know if this would work nowadays), as I think you may be into something that may change the way artists and critics look at the medium tropes in a radical way, making a huge difference.
Whatever, great video, and I loved the live-action segment, keep it up!
Were you playing video games while you watched this series?
First of all, the Dystopia is a pure Alpha world line thing.
Second, they explained why Okarin was in a bombed out hospital and who took care of him.
Luka and Faris are the ones who took care of him while he was in the hospital.
The reason they kept him there was because not even the members of Valkyrie were supposed to know that he was still alive.
They "deceived the world" by ensuring that he was effectively dead to everyone except 3 people and Amadeus Kurisu.
Not saying the show was flawless but at the very least you shouldn't make such glaring omissions in your analysis.
Yeah, maybe if he’s only going to half pay attention to a show, he should put on the dub so that he can at least hear what’s being said when he gets distracted by things.
I think it was effect of we time jump 30 years so he probably felt ragggggeeee (I knew it was PR route but still felt like punching the wall as I knew there is nothing that can save future of SG already).Like I said , they just had to put every VN route and in strange places which make no sense to Anime watcher.
@@nemanjastankovic7200 At least they didn't fully adapt Gehenna's
I think beginning and maybe episodes 1-3 had scenes from there but yes , at least one route isn't really there.And rest of them are incomplete or strangely changed or rushed or all of the above.
I didn't think this was a great sequel at all (with the Yuki false clues, the flat direction, and the bad episode pacing) but these videos are making me reconsider.
Zero truly was awful !
Also, I adore these series where you completely dissect a show in several episodes.
And Daru's voice change actually had me laughing histerically.
Got any hentai recommendations?
S. .S Motu patlu
@@anotherKyle So original
Just get into doujinshi hentai will never be good lol. That or look for older hentai. It's more tasteful
@@goneinaflash2429 Why would I care about taste when I can watch a sexy anime girl with massive titties being double penetrated by two BBCs?
search nanao in nhentai
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Wait, he wants a world where nobody has to die and everyone can live the way they want to....
And in so doing he re-murders Faris's father and forces Luka to live the life he had, up until that point, kind of hated?
Fucking with the actual progress they had made in order to save an individual who doesn't really do anything but provide an incentive to fuck with the actual progress they made.
Again, everybody has a vague since of reading Steiner, so everybody has vague recollections of their experiences through past world lines via deja vu and/or dreams. So Mayuri wouldn't be as shocked in seeing bloodshed do to the alpha world line.
The reason why Mayuri dosen't shit her pants when Suzuha gunned down all the soldiers is becaused it's explained in the origional show and movie that they all have a small amount of "reading steiner". So Mayuri probably remembers some of the so called "dreams" she talks about.
That’s not even a question. In the original VN, alpha Mayuri actually has nightmares about dying over and over and how Okabe would look at her as if his soul was breaking. Zero just makes this from theory to stated fact, by virtue of characters like a Fubuki suffering nightmares of other worldlines.
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I am bingewatching all of the stains;gate 0 sucks video and have to add something to this specific part: the reason amadeus springs back to life in every single time except the first one is because on the first one he wakes up and trips breaking the screen while in the other ones he approaches the screen and presses a key (as with a computer in standby or sleep mode)
12:50 i forgot how hot he actually is lmao
she's hotter now
I actually really agree with #3. It's probably my biggest gripe with Steins; Gate 0. I find that Suzuha's statement about needing to prevent a time paradox very contradictory since her long term presence in that time period already seems to be a huge factor to trigger a paradox. Plus, we never really see true consequences of a time paradox anyway so it ends up sounding like pure nonsense. 😁
If this guy is serious then I'm convinced that he watched only the first and last few episodes of the series.
Why wasn't Okabe's hair super grown out when he first woke up
Ngl I stopped watching these videos after the first one because I loved S;G0, and I didn't want it ruined. Totally agreed with just about everything you said in the first one, so I guess you've constructed a pretty darn good argument.
except almost all the points he made plot wise were wrong due to his own misunderstandings and not paying attention
Anime had no plot , it had plots and plots one after another.No wonder.
The 'time war' part is different because Okabe buying that steel trinket thing means that Mayuri gets the ordinary one which Kurisu finds, Kurisu's dad takes and stops him getting to Russia.
Also, in certain world lines the 'time war' is inevitable so the only thing people who can move between world lines can do is try to get onto the Stein;Gate world line. There's an interesting question about sacrifice and selfishness because people must be sacrificed in order for the Steins;Gate world line to be realised. (Ferris's dad for example)
It's also slightly selfish that people who can move between world lines only need worry about themselves because everything they care about will be fine in the Steins;Gate world line.
Of course Zero isn't as good as the original. The original was nearly perfect (at least the Visual Novel). Still Zero is a nice addition to the story. It's not nearly as good as the original but it is still kinda good I think.
And for me Zero is far above fan fiction level. It actually brings new and interesting story ideas and characters on the table. Maho and Dr. Leskinen are great additions to the cast. Yuki is also great. Only Mayuris two other friends are kinda bad because they do literally nothing. But I guess that's the point? They most likely are here to show us that Mayuri has other things going for her besides Okarin and the Lab. Makes her feel a little bit more real if you ask me.
Though I have to say Samurai Ruka and Soldier Faris are really cringy. You'd think she changes her attitude after her town gets destroyed by WW3.
Still a great show I enjoyed. In some ways the anime is even better than the Visual Novel.
To be honest I've read better fanfictions... but only a handful of them (like "Infinite coffee and protection detail" is just perfect, one of the better written stories I've ever read/watched/experienced). Most is mediocre. And most stories in everything is mediocre or bad. If I had watched S;G0 before/instead of Steins;Gate, I would love it because it's science fiction with actual science parts (for example Star Wars are sf, but we don't get any explanation of the science, so it's a different genre for me). And time travel. Although probably I would consider it having a potential more than being good. It's story about things I like, but it's a mediocre story. It had unnecessary characters, unnecessary and unresolved subplots, some of the subplots made no sense, it would be better to explore some subplots more than making a lot of them and leaving them without any impact on the future or any resolution. Some of them could have impact on the character, but for me not enough. (I kinda enjoyed watching it (at the beginning), I liked the Okarin having PTSD for example and I liked the idea, but then I was mostly disappointed in what was going on).
@@tymondabrowski9922 Yes, that's it. Steins;Gate 0 isn't nearly as good as the original but it doesn't "suck". It's a mediocre story you can only enjoy when you watched the original. Still it doesn't suck. For me at least it adds something to the original and doesn't ruin it.
Yeah, that's a no from me dawg. It didn't have any of the heart and soul of the original, everything there was to love about all of the characters was taken away. There was way too much nothing going on and no pay off. There has to be fanfic out there that does this portrayal better, because fans of this series want to see these characters that they know and love interacting with one eachother, and this show missed that concept entirely.
That subtle plug at 00:18
So who else was distracted by the microwave?
Stop! It's already dead!
One's got to make sure.
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DystopiaGroceries is a great screen name/gamer tag.
thanks to you bashing this and saying how great the original was i watched season one... and it was amazing :D but i think i skipp this one :x
Steins;gate zero is also really good. He just mixed up something. Also you should make your own opinion.
Yeah he watched SG 2 I think.
Nah. I can only see this undervaluing the original series. it was a simple thing to have to execute: show the journey that lead our hopeless Okabe to leave the message to his "past" self to prevent his current circumstance.
You could have had SERN in a much more "in the light" approach. Show how they master Time Travel. Show them using this Time Travel Mastery to wipe out Okabe's resistance group one by one until it's just Okabe and one or two people and him leaving the message to his past self.
Yes , I agree I was being sarcastic.Bad characters , no plot , trying to make references to original non stop (even EP1 Okabe is at presentation and he shouts just like in original),dating episode that served to push plot a bit and give some space for viewer in original was Suzuha doing Daru and Amane date here but main plot wasn't there so it served no purpose as there was no tension,and so on.It really is leeching on original with 3 or 4 good episodes for 24 ep anime.
They really could have done anything plot wise in SG as show had so much freedom but they decided to adapt VN and they didn't even do that right and VN wasn't all that good.For example Psycho Pass season 2 was bad but I wouldn't call it shit as even original authors (before they left after first season) said that Psycho Pass universe really didn't have freedom for 2nd season.Yet SG that had all that creative freedom ended up worst.
KillTheFuture42 He really doesn't know what he's talking about, he's mixing up some of the most basic details.
For your first point he was scared because he couldn't fathom as to why she was there in the time line after he leaped
Okabe didn't forgive Moeka and finally give her a lab member badge until after he saved Kurisu, so he was probably shitting himself after seeing her because he hadn't gotten over everything yet. Episode 24 never happened in SG0. But yeah, still a shit series though
He's saying the character arc that lead to that event happening had already occured before Okabe had given up on saving Kurisu and by proxy this story.
@@caswellweird I know, but I think Kurisu's death probably still changed how he would've acted. He forgave Moeka because everything had worked out in the end
Tackson Caswell He didn't know what her situation was in the Beta Timeline. For all he knows he might be there to kill someone.
On the point where you mentioned that the consecutive time travels wouldn't work because his evolved brain wouldn't be compatability with his old one, keep in mind that he was in a coma the entire time not having any new experiences to evolve from, meaning that for all intents and purposes, his brain never changed from the moment he fell asleep to when he woke up
"They can only leap back a certain time because the state of the mind chances too much"
Okabe was in a coma so the state of the mind didn't change. That is why he could do the time leaps.
Agree with most of your points but when you don't like a show you shit all over it even when not applicable.
I didn't even finish the show since it was so boring and slow, but I did enjoy the VN (even though it is ~30 longer) and hearing your criticisms I strongly believe that the show is much worse than the VN. Though you wouldn't VN like it either based on your criticisms.
not giving up......that sounds like precure
Questioning why Okabe was cautious about person who killed Mayuri countless times, criticising awesome future Rukako and awesome death of that character, missing everything about Okabe's coma and how and why he was kept there, rambling about what you think S;G was about for half of the video and why it was great? Really? You missed or twisted so many things in just this one video. This one is the weakest tbh.
It's like you run out of material and got nothing better to say about it. Though you did great job with previous 3 videos and captured perfectly why that show is nothing like S;G 0
rep reading the VN shouldn't be necessary to watch the anime.
Suck it up nerd. The first season didn't need you to read the VN to be a good one. So much things didn't make sense in the second season logically. From the 1st season okabe should have had a closure with moeka and it was mentioned in this video. What's so awesome about a cliche death scene? When did rukaku became a cyborg able to jump from several stories high, don't take leg damage, then proceed to melee several highly trained soldiers with guns?
You just closed your mind and ears when you see the title.
@@dharmdevil I watched the entire video and took in what he said, trust me. It's just that me and many other fans are sick of people with large fanbases misguiding people with lies and bent truths. If you read my comment you'll see I agreed with a few things that Digi said although mostly only things from the anime since the director was shittier.
@@AhkoRC But it should be to critique a story.
It shouldn't. If you need to read the source material to have a grasp on the adaptation, then it's a failure of an adaptation. Saying "it makes more sense in the source" just means it has failed in that regard.
Very nice! Thoroughly entertaining as the rest of this series is. I really enjoyed the analysis parts. The passion I feel that Digi has for shitting on this series he hates is great.
It's not a perfect review though. People have pointed this out before, but Digi does get a lot of the details wrong. While that doesn't detract from many of the big-picture criticisms, it DOES distract from them greatly. For example him being unable to distinguish SERN's dystopia from Post WW3 makes me feel like he hasn't been paying attention at all and casts his other interesting and well thought out criticisms into doubt. It's a "If he was wrong about X, maybe he was also wrong about Y" kinda of feeling. Still overall this was a great review series and has made me give S;G 0 a second look.
Well, I actually got bored of the series a ways in and dropped it, but now I don't feel like there's much worth coming back for hahaha. Especially since I got bored in the first place. Videos like this one are really cathartic because they put the underlining thoughts and reasons into words.
I hope you'll find more anime that drive you to review like this!
The visual novel of 0 is just as good as the original... The anime couldn't keep up
just as an answer to number 5 on your writing oversight roundup, that would only terminate the timeline if it wasn't operating under multiverse theory, which it would have to, since lab coat microwave guy is constantly contacting the alpha timeline. also, just a thought i had, but if you affect an earlier version of yourself, it shouldn't do anything to you, since your personal timeline wouldn't be affected at all. time travel is weird and kind of brain bending.