Rokinon (Samyang) SP 85mm f/1.2 | Image Quality and Bokeh
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- Rokinon SP 85mm f/1.2 | Image Quality and Bokeh Review | Photographer Dustin Abbott shares a detailed look at the image quality and bokeh from the new Rokinon 85mm f/1.2 from their brand new SP (Special Performance) line. Many samples photos included. | Image Gallery: bit.ly/SP85Gallery | Purchase the Rokinon SP 85mm f/1.2: B&H Photo: bhpho.to/2kdltH5 Amazon: amzn.to/2l91NBN
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It really is something to see a little manufacturer like Samyang crush the much bigger brands with this lens.
This lens has made me very eager to check out the 14mm f/2.4, which is on the way to me as soon as there is any stock of it.
The more I see of these lenses the more I like them. Beautiful portrait lens and at the risk of repeating myself I don't mind manual focusing. These are a real alternative to native glass for me. Thanks for a superb review Dustin and If you don't mind me saying so, you sneaked some STUNNING shots in there. Hope to catch more soon. Gary.
Thanks, Gary.
Dustin, one quick note about DxO and chromatic aberration (CA): when CA is measured objectively, only lateral CA is discussed. The CA that you are referencing is of the longitudinal variety and is not accounted for in DxO's scoring.
This is further confusing for many as lateral CA can be corrected by RAW converters automatically without loss of image quality (at least for lenses that are only lightly or moderately afflicted), and thus is largely a non-issue in real-world photography, while longitudinal CA will stand out and glaringly so on lenses that are so afflicted, which is nearly every fast lens short of Zeiss and Leica APOs, Canon's BR-infused 35/1.4L II, and Canikon super-telephoto lenses.
I am using Fuji and starting to enjoy Samyang, with 12mm and 85mm i really pleased with what they produce.. and then i see this new 85mm with lot of improvement. I am hoping others small manufacture could compete with the big brands by focusing in IQ first just like Samyang did. Thank you for your good review.
My pleasure.
By far the best camera gear reviewer.
Thanks!
I got one myself and I really love it. This lens is amazing in every way! Fairly sharp for any portrait work and color rendering is really good. Of course you'll have to deal with manual focus which can be pretty challenging with such a small dof but when you nail it it's just amazing! I had to choose between it and the sigma but there was that little something in the Samyang that caught my heart. I shoot @f2. most of the time and I get beautiful bokeh and sharpness. Sometimes I push it a bit to f1.8/1.4 and it always deliver. Great lens!
And I love manual focusing! All my lenses except my nifty fifty are vintage manual primes.
Enjoy!
Dustin Abbott thanks!
jonathan didier anaclet what about the milvus 85 1.4?
Captain Zouave I didn't even consider getting one to be honest and I'm not that impressed by the milvus series considering the high price point. I don't know if it's even worth it since the Samyang is so sharp and well built for under 1000 euros which is twice as less expensive! if I had to go Zeiss, I'd reach for the Otus line, very best in class, which is sadly out of my league (4000€).
Very nice review with just the kind of information I needed and great sample pics too. keep up the good work!
Glad to help out. Thanks for the feedback.
I know I’ve said this before but I so wish you were a Nikon guy. Your reviews are truly practical, down to earth and detailed in what we as photographers need.
Thanks, Stephen. I get that pretty often, but I only have so much time!
I'm curious as to how you never went the Nikon route given you know that they have their perks and you do use other brands besides Canon.
I guess some of that is on Nikon. Other brands reached out to me to see if I would cover their stuff. Nikon never did...and I now I’m too busy
That’s a shame
The best lens and camera reviews on UA-cam!
That's very kind. Thanks!
I think the quality of bokeh is comparable with laowa or sony's STF lens. So creamy and aesthetic! And I see you are a great photographer in real world :)
I do my best!
Once again, thanks for this, I had been looking forward to it! Quite a nice CA performance and really nice even near minimum focus. The bokeh is just gorgeous, this is a really interesting lens. I love the Canon 85 1.2L II, so I definitely hope to get my hands on it!
The CA control for such a wide aperture lens is pretty impressive.
O woow! Two of my 3 favourite photo gear reviewers in same place :DD Hello :D Dustin!!! Hello Scott :D!! I feel so connected :D. Re: My love for Canon f1.2II - I bought this Samyang 85mm 1.2 to achive canon 85mm f1.2 look on photos buy i only shoot one photo shoot. Was extremely excited about such a shallow DOF. how great performer overall this is and how awesome lens I got, second hand! for 650 Doll only! Used it with FocusPeaking on Sony. Unfortunately very little of my shots where in focus at all! I was not sure if this was a complete lack of my skill with F.peaking.. or the fact that this was adapted via cheap "Beschoi" Lens Mount Adapter (EOS to EF) I would of though focusing with an assistance on 7iii is a fairly easy for a guy who operate modern electronic on a daily basis.. Yet i was very calm and tried to be very precise. Most of shoot are ruined... and with simple back lit shoots toward the window (no even direct sun light) ghosting and lost of contrast was TERRIBLE. I experienced similar lost of contrast once with Tamron 70-200 G2 when shooting in purely white hacienda on a beach close to equator. Yet again Tamron shoot i did was not directly to sun same like with Samyang. Just ambient reflected from white walls. All this make me wonder that some time tests for flaring & artefacts when shoot directed toward the sun might not be the same thing on different geographic location and during different year periods or even different hours during a day. My observation is that sometimes lens can handle pretty well direct light say in north of globe like Germany in winter. But will not perform as good when shooting in white room in Bali during the summer. Yesterday I was taking a street shoot in well lit up ally around 10:00am in London with 85mm GM with no lens hood! Contrast was very good but artefact!! You will not believe this!!! There is a flare of rainbow in 2/3 of the frame. I will post a link below. & and find 85mm GM a solid performer! Anyway. I sold Samyang and got 85GM. What ever i know about lenses and gear i know from you Dustin from you Scott. So thank you very much for all you very good reviews :D so glad i was able to reach out to you today :) Link for that weird! artefacts on 85mm GM. www.amazon.co.uk/clouddrive/share/x0enH6yr8bcJvjgLqKRqHSeG3cImPaqVUM93IJbzIM1
@@Skandalista_fotograf Thank you for your enthusiasm! Dustin probably has more expertise than I do here, but flare is definitely a tricky one because of so many factors like you said. It's easy to test to a certain point, but light angle, intensity, direction, atmospheric issues and so on definitely can play a role. I've found even the best can definitely show flare in challenging conditions, so the tests are more of a rough guideline :)
new video-type intro... I like it!
Cool intro to this. I like the 3D effect it had on me.
Thanks
To complete my previous message, if I had to choose a 85mm lens, my choice would be the 85 f:1,8 Sony, much more lighter. Or the 85 f:1,4 Sony if I look for a little bit more bokey. They both are more able to shoot fast and precisely.
I would say starting with the Sony 85mm f/1.8 is a good idea. It is a nice lens.
Great review. Thanks for sharing info :)
My pleasure.
I'd be interested to see know your opinion on this Sam/Rok 85/1.2 vs the Laowa 105mm STF.
i.e. Both manual-focus, both wider than my 135L, and both designed to offer great Bokeh.
Have always enjoyed your detailed analysis and this was no exception - I am so intrigued by this lens! Will definitely try to look it up on borrowlenses.
Out of curiosity, I have always enjoyed your intro music - what is the song/band? What did you have prior to this?
Appreciate you; thanks!
I use three options: 1) Music I create myself 2) Music my son creates for me and 3) sometimes soundtracks from my sister's albums (she is a professional Gospel recording artist).
Dustin Abbott That is incredible!!!! Can you post a link to the song if possible? I love grooving to it!!
Please let your son and family know how incredibly talented you all are! Wow!
Excellent, thorough video as usual Dustin!
So far I think I'm most drawn to the Tamron 85, but maybe now even more so to the new Tamron 70-200. :)
It's looking pretty nice, isn't it? I should have one in hand in a week or so.
How does this compare against the Cannon L lens and Mitakon Speedmaster?
much sharper then Canon. Much less CA. Better contrast. Bokhe i really did not compared side by side like Dustin here and he will know better but some how i love the Canon its smaller it feel better in my hand. It will give you very nice effect and it has autofocus!! MItakon is super soft, difficult to handle, lens hood is terrible not sharp at all & expensive. IMHO lens need to be a good over all performer. I had 105mm sigma f1.4 a master lens for portraits! but so unrealistically heavy and big i could not use it outside the studio. Id go for Canon or Samyang 85mm AF if you are on a budget. not sure what camera you use.
Dustin you are definetly the best photographic gear reviewer on the internet. Have you ever considered testing the portrait lenses against each other on doing the same portrait on a person? For example, i think it would make much more sense for us to see sharpness in a real world use of the lens, compared to other 85's. I saw many people asking you how is that lens compared to other lenses, and i think those questions come from not seeing a real wide aperture comparison on a same person eye. Thank you, and keep up the outstanding work, i am looking forward for your videos.
I've done a number of 85mm comparisons like that, though the Samyang wasn't a part of that showdown. You can find the four-way comparison on my channel, though.
this is a damn cool shirt and pull-over, you know about colors!
Thanks :)
When I hear that dramatic Intro, I just know we're in for a great review. Lol
Well of course ;)
Another great review. Love this lens colour reproduction and smooth transition from the focus point. It seems to have more artistic qualities
I agree. I'm very impressed by the overall rendering from the lens.
Hello, New to the channel and just subscribed! lots of knowledge and great reviews. Just starting out do you have any videos or recommendations for a starter kit or lens recommendation!
Not a specific episode, though I do review a number of entry level lenses.
Now that Canon mirrorless cameras have focus peeking for mush easier focusing in manual, does that change your opinion on this lens?
I definitely think that MF lenses are much easier to use on mirrorless.
Dustin; Requesting you include the Mitakon 85mm f/1.2 lens in your comparisons. I have seen a few tests where the Mitakon actually just edges out in sharpness and bokeh of the Canon 85mm f1.2 L. Mitakon is definitely becoming a force in the industry just as Sigma and Rokinon.
I haven't reviewed anything from Mitakon yet, but at the moment my review schedule is full.
That was HUGE difference in color rendering between this and the Tamron. Are you sure the white balance was the same in both cases? This lens almost makes skin tones greenish, at least on my screen.
I'm pretty thorough in my tests, yes.
Wow, this is one sexy lens purely in terms of look and build alone. Love the colour reproduction too. Which one would you suggest, if you had to choose one, between this and the Sigma 85/1.4 ART?
Without having tried either I'd say it depends on wether or not you want auto-focus or if you can do without.
That's a very valid point. If having AF isn't an issue, it comes down to rather you want absolute sharpness (Sigma) or prefer more artistic rendering. (Rokinon)
It doesn't even match up well to the Tamron 1.8. It may be that the Roki bokeh is artistically rendered cos it's not as sharp. Very interesting video but I lost a lot of interest in the Roki.
@@MrPhilbautista LOL, fucking tamron? I'm sorry but you're such a clown.
Would you reccomend this lens or the Zeiss Milvus? This has f1.2. Is the Image Quality of the Milvus way better or are they nearly the same?
The Milvus is sharper overall, but this lens might have a bit better bokeh quality. The Milvus has weather sealing, too, which may be a big deal to you.
Great to see more Samyang lenses. Love the bokeh, I Think the bokeh on my Samyang 85 1.4 manual lens looks a lot like the rendering of bokeh of this lens. But My 1.4 has more CA. Im Intrested In the 135 f2 as well.. It's a realy sharp lens.
The 135 F2 is a great lens. I like the rendering from this 85mm F1.2 lens much more than the 1.4 version, myself.
Another great review!
+Giang Vu Thank you!
Thank you very much for your great vedio , the lens has many limitiation as you said but i really like the bokeh out of this lens, i actually think this is the best bokeh lens i've ever seen
thank you again , and hope to see more more vedios , specially if you can try some of nikon bodies ( nikon user here 😁)
I'm not likely to switch to Nikon at this point. I'm very invested in the Canon ecosystem...and happy.
Dustin Abbott i really respect that, i was only saying this for the sake of the reviews only , but it's tottally up to you
Even when nailing focus, would you favor this lens in terms of sharpness and bokeh over the newer canon 85mm 1.4?
Not necessarily. If I were buying for real work, I'd probably spend the money for the Canon.
Thanks Dustin. Great in depth review. Think I'll stick to the Canon though. Really don't like the buzzsaw bokeh on the Samyang 85mm 1.2 lens when you stop down. Canon doesn't have that. And the corners aren't as sharp edged when you stop down more on the canon. Also the Canon has autofocus, which really can come in handy when shooting certain subjects. Used it wide open the other day at Venice Beach skate park, I was able to achieve shots that would not be possible with a manual lens, especially since I was using a Canon 1V. Were you able to see a difference in bokeh changing from 1.2 to 1.4? Only difference I've been seeing is vignetting and exposure . Thanks sir.
I didn't really see any bokeh difference, no. Not having autofocus does kill this lens for a lot of people. I get that.
I can't decide between the Sigma 35mm f/1.4 art and the Sigma 24mm f/1.4 art. They both seem like amazing lenses around the same price point. Which would you recommend?
That really comes down to the focal length that you will use the most. They frame very differently. I can't answer that question for you, but if you have zoom (for example) that covers both of those focal lengths take a look at which focal length you use most often.
Dustin Abbott great thanks for the help
Dustin, thanks for the review. I recently purchased this lens, and am also shooting on a 5D Mark IV. This is my first manual focus lens, and I'm struggling with focus. I love the look at 1.2, but have read that focusing through the viewfinder is tough, since the camera (apparently) can't show you accurate focus at 1.2 I think I've read that you're looking through the viewfinder at 1.8 or so. Is this true? I find that often when it looks in focus to me in camera it is out in lightroom. Any tips for how to improve this skill? You mentioned Live View a few times. Does this overcome that problem? Thanks!
Live View does overcome it. And yes, visual confirmation in the viewfinder with a standard focus screen will not give you reliable results. Try this: focus past your plane of focus with the shutter half pressed, then start to focus. As soon as you hear the focus confirmation beep, click the shutter. This gives pretty consistent results once you learn the technique.
Thanks Dustin. I appreciate the time you took to reply and the informative videos. Really great stuff. And thanks for helping me manage this unwieldy beast! My last DLSR was an original 5D and all this newfangled stuff is taking a bit to adjust to!
The Sigma produces images that appear to be surround by soap suds. A clean image.
You've tested quite a few 85mm lenses in the last couple of years , how would you compare this lens to the Milvus , Sigma Art ,Tamron & Canon's own ?
I think this lens may have the nicest overall rendering of any of them. It's slightly behind the Milvus, ART, and Tamron in sharpness, but ahead of the Canon. Milvus has the strongest contrast, Sigma has the best absolute sharpness, and the Tamron is maybe the best mix of features and versatility. We are blessed to have so many great options compared to a few years ago!!
Interesting comparison; although not as razor sharp as the Sigma & Tamron the Rokinon/Samyang is still quite sharp on center and renders colors, in-focus and out of focus areas beautifully. Ideal portrait lens.
I agree....as you get things in focus!
Have you compared this lens to the Milvus? Which one renders better? Thanks!
The Milvus is sharper, but I think I prefer the bokeh from this lens. I like the Milvus' "bite" (microcontrast) at wide apertures better. They have different personalities.
Dustin Abbott Thank you for this confirmation. I was about to get the Otus and was intrigued with the Milvus bokeh rendition and I actually prefer it compared to the Otus. It's also a lot cheaper. I shoot with a 6D and I don't think the sensor has the resolving power of the optics provided by the Otus. I could care less about auto focus on fine glass especially at 1.2 and 1.4. In reality, the Sigma makes sense because of its optics, overall performance on all apertures and auto focus. Now I can't wait for their 135/1.8 Art!!!!
Comparing this with the Sigma 85mm f1.4 art lens which one is better according to you sir?
That's not a simple answer. Optically there is give and take for both. The Sigma is sharper, but the Samyang has better bokeh and is also extremely sharp. If you are using a traditional DSLR, you will probably get more consistent results with the Sigma. Manual focus is difficult with DSLRs, and it looks like (from your other comment), that you are using an 80D.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank you. You've been a great help. I really appreciate it. :)
is it a manual lens?
Yes. I cover the design and construction in the first look video.
Btw you should really look into making a video on Samyang AF 85mm f1.4 with Auto Focus for Canon coz it's cheaper than the other 85mm equivalent models and no one has made a good in depth video on it yet.
It's on my agenda, though it will be a couple of months as I'm booked full right now.
I am sad that Samyang hasn't updated the current 85mm f/1.4. For $1000 I may as well get a used Zeiss. It is an amazing lens though
Perhaps, but having that bright f/1.2 aperture does have value!
Great review. I think the price for this lens a bit to high. I like it but a bit to high compared with others. Other than that it looks like a great lens to me. Of course I am not as picky as may be some one else can be and I thing it performs great according to the picture quality. Thanks Dusting for another great review.
That's the only real criticism I've heard from people.
There is a new Samyang AF 85mm f/1.4 that just
came out. Any chance of reviewing it; esp. how it compares to the Canon f/1.4
IS alternative on FF and crop bodies. Really interested, and I'm sure many of
your subscribers would, cause its almost a third of the Canon price.
Interesting on the B&H website both Rokinon and Samyang versions of the AF
85 f/1.4 are listed with something like USD 50 apart; specs design look identical.
It arrives tomorrow.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Excellent !!! Is it a Canon or Sony mount? I'm keen on the Canon version. Can't wait for your exhaustive and insightful coverage :-)) Looks like a winner from what I've seen; esp. if its AF can keep up. I'd like to use it for indoor sports and events on a crop body.
isn't the Rokinon different from the Samyang?
because when I looked it up on Amazon the Rokinon was for 999 dollars and the Samyang was for 1540 dollars, what do suggest me to buy or is it just the same thing and I should go for the cheaper one?
The Samyang and Rokinon lenses are identical in every way. Samyang has always sold under a variety of brands (Bower, Walimex, etc...) I don't really know why.
I just found a different between the two as one called Sp like yours and the other called Xp. I don't know why it has a $540 different in price because of this.
Can you tell me what the different between them? they look so identical!
it's because I bought the $1540 one but if they're just the same I would be saving $540
this's them:
www.amazon.com/Rokinon-Special-Performance-Speed-Built/dp/B01NAZHGB3/ref=s9_simh_gw_g421_i2_r?_encoding=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=A1BK6RVTPCNBXTPB7HHR&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=1cded295-23b4-40b1-8da6-7c1c9eb81d33&pf_rd_i=desktop
www.amazon.com/Samyang-XP-85mm-F1-2-Canon/dp/B06XCDJ1M5/ref=sr_1_1?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1489256838&sr=1-1&keywords=xp+85mm+f%2F1.2
They are identical. Samyang brands it XP; Rokinon brands it SP.
Hi Dustin, I'm looking to buy a macro and portrait lens and I would like to ask you what do you think about the Tamron af sp 60mm 2.0 or do you have other suggestions? Thanks
I've not actually tested that lens (I'm assuming you are shooting APS-C), but I've heard good things about it.
@@DustinAbbottTWI yes, I'm shooting on a canon eos 200 d and I'm looking for a good lens for macro and portrait and still life, thanks for answering Dustin
Then I think that is a good choice.
@@DustinAbbottTWI thanks Dustin
Are all the Rokinon lenses manual focus?
+Cactus Tweeter There are a couple of Sony eMount AF lenses from Rokinon, but almost all of their lenses are MF.
Man, why don't they make more lenses for Nikon esp. this one.
I'm not sure why they didn't develop this one for Nikon.
Is this lens manual aperture on camera or lens?
No, the aperture is electromagnetically controlled.
@Dustin Abbott if you put Magic Lantern on your 6D you will have Focus Peaking.
+MrKdr500 I've used Magic Lantern, but focus peaking will be in Live View, and if I'm using Live View magnifying the image is just as easy. For more organic shooting I prefer using the EG-S focus screen so I can still shoot through the viewfinder.
Great review again Dustin, thank you. I am waiting for a comparison with milvus because both are mf. I really want to see how good in bokeh,IQ, and mostly the colors when we compare with milvus. What do you think? As good as them? Or how close? I am thinking to buy a zeiss, but after I watched this review I started to ask myself that will i give my money just for a name.. because the only con i saw is that rokinon losing contrast against light source.
I don't have the Milvus on hand right now, but I'd say Milvus is a bit sharper, has weather sealing, but the overall rendering and handling of the Rokinon is just as good...and the rendering may be a bit better.
I don’t know who would spend this much money for a manual focus lens when you can get a art for cheaper
That's probably true for many people, though this lens has much nicer bokeh. Also, those that prioritize video would prefer something like this with a beautiful manual focus ring.
JJ Rokinon AF 50mm 1.4 is a autofocus len.
Only in a Sony eMount. They have a 50mm f/1.4 for a variety of other mounts that is manual focus only (that came first).
For this price, Rokinon really should have put AF in it.
I know what you are saying, but it doesn't quite work that way. By that logic all Zeiss lenses should have AF...and yet....
Thanks a lot for another great and unbiased review, Dustin.
Looking at 9:40 it seems that your copy of the Rokinon has the same aperture problem which plagued the first batch of the FE 50mm f/1.4 AF: the aperture blades are not completely symmetrical. This focus ball shape @9:40 is definitely not normal @ƒ/1.8! Even the product picture of the 1.4/50 on amazon still shows that problem of the first batch of the FE 50 AF: www.amazon.de/SAMYANG-Autofokus-Objektiv-Anschluss-Mount-schwarz/dp/B01I7FI556 (5th picture)
Could you do me a favor please and look at the lens from the front with the aperture closed down to ƒ/11 or ƒ/16? If you see something like the picture I mentioned above, this is the reason for that strange focus ball shape @9:40 above - especially on the bottom right. In the 50mm it lead to all kinds of problems, e.g. hunting as well as higher CA and flare if stopped down. Pete McWade was the first to notice this problem way back when: ua-cam.com/video/RMkpAqNp_RI/v-deo.htmlm20s
I thought Samyang had overcome that manufacturing problem and didn't expect it to show up in their premium line :-(
Of course Samyang will exchange the copy for a new one without any problems for people who encounter this phenomenon, but if review copies go out with it, the reviews don't look to flattering for Samyang if the reviewer isn't aware of that fact.
Unfortunately my Samy XP 1.2/85 still hasn't arrived :-(
My Samy has finally arrived last Friday and I already love it.
I had the French dealer check the aperture before sending it and I received a perfect copy with absolutely symmetrical blades: my bokeh balls are perfectly round until f/2, no 'buzzsaw' here:
drive.google.com/open?id=0ByWsPMNI_F1fakw3Y2lMY0pIVXc
And for all the commenters here who don't consider it sharp enough wide open here's a portrait shot at ƒ/1.2:
flic.kr/p/R9P1v8
and here is one at ƒ/2:
flic.kr/p/Rah3VA
Not really much difference - for me it's plenty sharp :-)
And I agree with you, Dustin: the renderin is plain awesome and has much more character than the other ƒ/1.4 offerings and the EF85mm ƒ/1.2L II (which I owned).
As far as manual focusing is concerned: it's a breeze with focus peeking on my Sony a6300. For portraits all you need is the red dot in the eye and focus will be perfect.
For me it's well worth the price - especially considering what the Milvus, Otus and Canon cost...
I guess my Samy 2/135 is not my prefered portrait lens anymore ;-)
I suspect you'll find the 85mm focal length more flexible for portrait work - I certainly do, though I do love a 135 in certain situations.
Settlers of Catan!
Right!
i dont Quite get why they didnt bring Sony fe first. Sony users need to spend an extra 100bucks on some cheap canon Adapter if they want Aperture control :/
I doubt this lens will come in a Sony FE. This seems to be a Canon EF mount only lens.
Thank's for your videos.
Even if this Rokinon has a lot of optical qualities, I'm afraid it's nearly unusable at full aperture without AF.
To be sure to be focus on the first eye, I really prefer an AF portraiture lens.
Currently, my favorite is the Zeiss 135 f:2,8. It suits perfectly my A7RIII.
In June 2018, I used this Rokinon SP 85mm f/1.2, at its maximum aperture only, on an EOS 6D with the matte focusing screen, Eg-S, in an outdoor, environmental portrait shoot at a busy, New York City intersection. It was unsettling, no time for Live View mode, to use only the viewfinder and await post- to reveal which shots, if any, were focused just right.
My computer monitor showed that, of the few dozen taken with this lens, most were focused right, except the tightest shots, a headshot framing. Of these, some half were acceptable-still none precisely, exactly right. Yet a couple of them were focused so nearly ideally to suit even professional work, since the sliver of a focal plane, and the otherworldly bokeh, dreamlike, make these photos timeless-portraits the model could hang on her wall and pass to heirs.
Although I sold the lens before buying the a7R II and then the a7R III, my experience with these bodies suggests efficient and reliable-and, for me, even gratifying and pleasant-focusing with this Rokinon on another, such portrait shoot. And if the focus confirmation works on the Sony bodies-or on Canon's fullframe mirrorless bodies-the confirmation ought to be even more accurate than on a DSLR. Meanwhile, I'm confident that in a studio, the focusing would be a breeze.
Does it have manual iris too?
It does not.
Why would I spend over $1,000 on a camera lens that is so difficult to get in focus. You even said so yourself it is very difficult to get in focus.
No one said that you have to spend anything on this lens. There are photographers that actually prefer MF lenses. There definitely will be a market for this lens, and I think a good bit of it will be from those considering a Zeiss lens.
Belmont with mirrorless cameras and focus peaking in the finder its much easier and a thing of training. it often feels better AS you kinda mostly know when youre In focus and dont have to See if your Autofokus did bis job perfectly
Belmont with that depth of field often enough af points rather catch an eyebroe than the eye and then its a lost image
That's true, actually. I usually switch to a single AF point for wide aperture glass.
0:07 to 0:30 there's such a weird background sound o.O
It's called music :)
There seems to be some tapping noise that I've never noticed before, and I think you've already used that music for other videos!
Hmmm. I turned it up high on a 5.1 system and didn't hear it.
o_o I'm watching this video on a 5.1 as well with the sound going through a Denon receiver. The sound is perfect until 0.0&, then I hear some weird tapping sound which goes away after the intro, basically as soon as you start talking.
Random Ibis Interesting. I don't know what to tell you.
That intro is way too long
I have the Rokinon24mm Samyang 135mm. Big fan of Rokinon but I'm not impressed by the new lens. Not worth the money.
And what's your logic? What exactly are you not impressed by?
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Dustin Abbott I guess, if he has the 135mm that is among the sharpest lenses of all time regardless the brand, but 500 bucks, he is not impressed to get worse optical quality in a 85mm package for twice the price.
at least that's what I thought as a Sony shooter that also has the Samyang 135mm but prefers the Batis 85mm for 85mm.
Fair enough.
marco köhler Thank you.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Tamron 85mm 1.8 $749 however is a radically different lens quality all metal construction weather sealing plus it has the addition of the stabilizer the vibration compensation and so an optically it destroys the Canon to Nikon shooters and Rokinon. Rokinon 85 SP 1.2 at 1.2 is too soft it has to be stop down to 2.8 to be sharp, what the point. It's really really important to me that I get the right shot because of those moments you will never get again. It doesn't matter how sharp a lens is, if it's not in focus all that sharpness is wasted. Most of these are your words from your review on the Tamron 85mm. I added Rokinon part.😆
And that is my primary point in my final review. Optically this lens is great, actually. It isn't as absolutely sharp as some new lenses, but it is plenty sharp for any practical purposes...and the rendering is fantastic. But that is wasted if you can't get things in focus.
some people say at 1.2 it's the sharpest lenses , sharper than canon 1.2
what a silly review, critiquing lack of corner sharpness at wider apertures on non linear subjects is crazy, you can;t over ride the laws of physics, noting an improvement at 2.8 is just basic depth of field theory, hard to watch this (low) level of test-changing channel.
And yet lenses like the Sigma 85mm f/1.4 ART and Zeiss Milvus 85mm f/1.4 seem to have no problem "overriding the law of physics".
Yes , But 1.2 is not 1.4, my 50mm 0.95 on my canon 7 film camera has
No depth of Field as would a 1.2 a 1.4 has more depth of field , to compare apples with oranges and say they are the same is ?????
These tests are crap, not a good standard for analysing lens performance
I'd be interested to see know your opinion on this Sam/Rok 85/1.2 vs the Laowa 105mm STF.
i.e. Both manual-focus, both wider than my 135L, and both designed to offer great Bokeh.
This is definitely an easier lens to use than the Laowa. I'd personally prefer this one, myself.
Dustin Abbott Good to know, there's no local supplier for the Laowa lens so I was leaning more towards the Samyang XP lens anyway.
That works out well, then.