"YATTA! AKAINU SO UWU🥰 & THE STWONG❤️EST 😘" ft @B.D.A. Law | One Piece Power-Scaling Discussion

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  • Опубліковано 15 лип 2022
  • Part 3 of the dope, fun, and CANCEROUS convo with Brago!
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  • @brosephgobbles8601
    @brosephgobbles8601 2 роки тому +328

    these two need to make a podcast. I could listen to them argue for hours

  • @TheZubaz
    @TheZubaz 2 роки тому +269

    I love that every single one of these is them arguing with the most bad faith imaginable lmao

    • @idiatico
      @idiatico 2 роки тому +33

      They never give any compromises lol, just talking past eachother.

    • @holdeezroger
      @holdeezroger 2 роки тому +59

      straight up trying to see how fast they can tilt the other lmao

    • @orbboom6119
      @orbboom6119 2 роки тому +19

      Its pretty funny to listen to at least lmao

    • @ShiningNoctowls
      @ShiningNoctowls 2 роки тому +1

      Lol 🔥 ❤ 🌙

  • @joshuaturpin9587
    @joshuaturpin9587 2 роки тому +756

    Bro tf is this title lmao

    • @bobmarkerson
      @bobmarkerson 2 роки тому +38

      Akawnu too uwu oh my gooood smug rawr x3

    • @joshuaturpin9587
      @joshuaturpin9587 2 роки тому +46

      @@bobmarkerson king really out of pocket for this one lmao

    • @elithornton5217
      @elithornton5217 2 роки тому +11

      The truth

    • @glory1950
      @glory1950 2 роки тому +3

      Akainutards pov

    • @joshuaturpin9587
      @joshuaturpin9587 2 роки тому +7

      Nah I'm not that keen on akainu, the title just caught me off guard lol.

  • @mikevictory9455
    @mikevictory9455 2 роки тому +165

    LOL seeing KOL and Brago going at it is always entertaining! XD

  • @mralabbad7
    @mralabbad7 2 роки тому +206

    Oda is loving this
    I'm almost certain this is exactly what he wanted writing the story the way he did and revealing/hiding details about characters to throw everyone off from anything definitive

    • @samsom4122
      @samsom4122 2 роки тому +8

      Its also kinda trash.

    • @mralabbad7
      @mralabbad7 2 роки тому +17

      @@samsom4122 it may lead to trash arguments and fights but it by itself is clever storytelling

    • @NickAlex08
      @NickAlex08 2 роки тому +9

      Oda had stated in the past, that he writes the story like how his 15 year old self would like a story. And he wasn't lying, only the fandom is in denial about it.

    • @g3mkn1ght60
      @g3mkn1ght60 2 роки тому

      Odas rubbing his hands together

    • @thetruth997_
      @thetruth997_ 2 роки тому +1

      So many trash and useless arguments could of been avoided if Oda was less vague and didn't wanna hide everything with a silhouette lol but finally we're getting definite answers and reveals 👍

  • @katakuriko9140
    @katakuriko9140 2 роки тому +59

    if only kaido had Doflamingo mental can you imagine what's gonna happen to the scabbards,supernovas,yamato, but kaido doesn't care about killing his opponents the only time he cared when he defeated luffy and wanted to cut his head off so people stop believing that luffy gonna win, but i really wished he had Doflamingo mental that fits him more as the strongest creature that wanted the biggest war ever, so him not dropping bodies is his character writing, but when it comes to akainu i really think at final war he's dropping like at least 10 bodies that's how his character is written and i like that and for me akainu is so underrated he's easily yonko level and even if roger fought him it's extreme diff.

    • @EasyWinking
      @EasyWinking 2 роки тому

      i think rogers stronger, but im unsure how he or garp could even beat someone like akainu who could just melt their bodies. ?

    • @katakuriko9140
      @katakuriko9140 2 роки тому

      @@EasyWinking roger should be stronger but anyone that fight akainu will lose an arm or leg or even his life, he can't just melt their bodies that easy they can use haki.

    • @EasyWinking
      @EasyWinking 2 роки тому

      @@katakuriko9140 so basically if you have stronger haki but your oppoent has a lava devil fruit you can negate their fruits attack by simply having stronger haki?

    • @katakuriko9140
      @katakuriko9140 2 роки тому

      @@EasyWinking yes, jinbei blocked akainu attack but he still got hurt because his haki is not good enough, we saw akainu melting swords in the war but shanks stopped him with his sword because of his strong haki.

  • @JDWalker495
    @JDWalker495 2 роки тому +187

    Brago let’s be real if Akainu tried to kill Kinemon
    Oda would’ve made it that Law put some super ice pack in his body to negate the magma
    The Will of K is too strong

    • @thetruth997_
      @thetruth997_ 2 роки тому +11

      Law is so broken lmao

    • @jarinxcii263
      @jarinxcii263 2 роки тому +1

      Kinemon can cut fire related attacks that includes magma

    • @IchigoKurosaki911
      @IchigoKurosaki911 2 роки тому +6

      @@kizarusweeddealer What? Why would Big Mom and Kaido try to kill Queen and King?

    • @IchigoKurosaki911
      @IchigoKurosaki911 2 роки тому

      @@kizarusweeddealer Shot Oden in the head.

    • @crazygamer-mr6nr
      @crazygamer-mr6nr 2 роки тому +1

      @@kizarusweeddealer You mean show up and beat people while they’re already weakened and can’t fight anymore?

  • @jeskerjames3260
    @jeskerjames3260 2 роки тому +102

    I am loving these videos between you and Brago. The back and forth and chemistry is fantastic!

    • @SB_kilsgb
      @SB_kilsgb 2 роки тому +3

      Wdym chemistry? These guys were lowkey mad hostile against each other.

    • @jeskerjames3260
      @jeskerjames3260 2 роки тому +16

      @@SB_kilsgb That’s what makes it fun! You act like they hate each other or something over a manga lol

    • @SB_kilsgb
      @SB_kilsgb 2 роки тому +1

      @@jeskerjames3260 not for me. Hate these discussion videos between channels because they are often so childish and toxic. My bad for clicking on the video though.

    • @vistaxx
      @vistaxx 2 роки тому +2

      @@SB_kilsgb if you don’t like it yeah then don’t Watch it

    • @4pace
      @4pace 2 роки тому +8

      @@SB_kilsgb I’ve personally watched all their collaboration videos, they may get into heated debates but it’s all for fun and jokes. They may disagree on fundamental one piece facts, however there’s no hatred between the two of them. In my opinion they have great chemistry, and remind me of the friendly debates that my friends and I would have over anime.
      Just because there’s intense debate doesn’t make it toxic.

  • @TheSnake2339
    @TheSnake2339 2 роки тому +100

    That’s Oda fault that Kinemon is still alive. Kaido basically killed him, but Law saved his life by mistake

    • @milzhere
      @milzhere 2 роки тому +28

      Yeah that was bad. And there's not really any reason to keep kinemon alive, oda just hates killing characters.

    • @thetruth997_
      @thetruth997_ 2 роки тому

      Law is so broken lmao

    • @visionaryvjae5641
      @visionaryvjae5641 2 роки тому +7

      Brago does have a point though. Kaido does blunt force damage so his attacks are easier to survive while Akainu's casual attacks would melt Kinemon like Kaido's fire drum dragon melted the left horn of Onigashima if Oda wrote that scene with Akainu instead of Kaido, Kinemon either dies, loses a limb or gets some giant scar.

    • @Mambo-Italiano
      @Mambo-Italiano 2 роки тому +6

      @@visionaryvjae5641 none of the WB's commanders and allies that were trying to save Luffy died or lost their limbs lol.

    • @Kenzo411able
      @Kenzo411able 2 роки тому +3

      @@Mambo-Italiano Yet WB and Ace died to Akainu's casual attacks

  • @appllypressure
    @appllypressure 2 роки тому +5

    LMAO that title is nuts

  • @raaraa5058
    @raaraa5058 2 роки тому +4

    Dawg you two do the best collabs community 😂 could listen to yall go back and forth all day lmfaooo. Hilarious 😂 keep up the great content!

  • @jadon4244
    @jadon4244 2 роки тому +86

    i can’t believe K.O.L let Brago slip in “Vista who is as strong as Mihawk and marco couldn’t hurt akainu” … im sorry what?😭😭

    • @jbriggs06
      @jbriggs06 2 роки тому +9

      Right!?

    • @stardestroyer19
      @stardestroyer19 2 роки тому

      It furthers the shanks agenda, so of course he'll let it slip.

    • @czar17_28
      @czar17_28 2 роки тому +8

      Marco... didn't hurt Akainu.

    • @KurokamiNajimi
      @KurokamiNajimi 2 роки тому +17

      @@czar17_28 Akainu didn’t hurt him either. In the Anime he pushed him back, in the Manga he doesn’t

    • @BlackStar-gv1wl
      @BlackStar-gv1wl 2 роки тому +2

      Bro I swear tho KOL thinks the same thing. It’s part of his zoro is wack agenda cause mihawk is his sensei

  • @brianlewis5518
    @brianlewis5518 2 роки тому +6

    Yo brago really do be sounding like that title 🤣🤣🤣

  • @olidolly7006
    @olidolly7006 2 роки тому +19

    The thumbnail 😭😭
    The disrespect Akainu gets is ridiculous

  • @jordanbanks118
    @jordanbanks118 2 роки тому +8

    These videos are hilarious, keep the content coming!!

  • @YetiCoolBrother
    @YetiCoolBrother 2 роки тому +97

    Whitebeard also was already sick before he even got Marineford, mans was hooked up like he had cancer. He was definitely the weakest of the Yonko by the time he died (but was the strongest in his prime).

    • @adnwzhre
      @adnwzhre 2 роки тому +20

      do ppl really think old man whitebeard was stronger than Shanks, Big mom, and or KAIDO?!? that actually seems so psychotic.

    • @bravo561
      @bravo561 2 роки тому +3

      @@adnwzhre No one ACTUALLY believes that. It’s all bad faith

    • @avalac7412
      @avalac7412 2 роки тому +17

      whitebeard at that stage in the story was stated as the strongest pirate. i'm guessing people don't read the story now

    • @azrael5493
      @azrael5493 2 роки тому +4

      @@avalac7412 Yes that's before any of the other Yonko were properly introduced in terms of scale.

    • @YetiCoolBrother
      @YetiCoolBrother 2 роки тому +12

      @@avalac7412 It's stated he was "The Strongest Man in the World" which can be interpreted as a title & not a statement (albeit a title he totally earned without question for likely the majority of his life). "Strongest Pirate" also wouldn't even necessarily denote his individual strength as being a "strong pirate" has other factors to it like crew strength.
      Also in the story is what I brought up with him being sick before he got there, and several moments where either WB himself or another character remark on his waning abilities due to his old age. If his own men can clearly see he's not what he used to be in the middle of a war, why would we then assume he's stronger than Kaido who's currently in his prime?

  • @yuma5297
    @yuma5297 2 роки тому +4

    people forget that wb was a half dead man before he even went to marin ford.

  • @stardestroyer19
    @stardestroyer19 2 роки тому +3

    These vids are a godsend. I never knew I needed KoL X Brago content.

  • @haterreaction6368
    @haterreaction6368 2 роки тому

    I really enjoy the back and forward! xD
    I hope there are more videos about the theme xD

  • @ayeboileeabundance1480
    @ayeboileeabundance1480 2 роки тому +1

    I like when i see yall 2 discussing One Piece, keep doing these 💯

  • @trololotrololo5697
    @trololotrololo5697 2 роки тому +19

    Whitebeard is the only old character in One piece who has health issues. Rayleigh, Sengoku, and Garp are healthy old men.

    • @severteran9897
      @severteran9897 2 роки тому

      How old was Roger when he turned himself in

    • @novsmith4547
      @novsmith4547 2 роки тому +1

      @@severteran9897 Roger wasn't old but his illness gave him very limited time to live at that point.

  • @joocypaleorc2149
    @joocypaleorc2149 2 роки тому +36

    “Akainu couldnt even kill marco”
    -kol
    Neither could blackbeard and big mom who needed help from perospero.

    • @jambo1815
      @jambo1815 2 роки тому

      But Brago was hyping up Akainu as this lethal bad mofo.

    • @canned3880
      @canned3880 2 роки тому +10

      Neither could queen and king at the same time

    • @homiixide
      @homiixide 2 роки тому +10

      Notice how King always brings up those who “supposedly” hurt an Admiral but NEVER bring up the moment where lesser characters actually damage and hurt a Yonko.
      Or how be brings up Marco but then ignores Marco blocking Big Mom and Kaido’s attacks. Marco is a literal phoenix, it’s really difficult to hurt him.

    • @uncomfortabletruths7990
      @uncomfortabletruths7990 2 роки тому

      Well of course big mom is gonna beat Marco that fast and perosoero just helped speed up the process. Big mom didn’t need him to beat Marco

    • @tragiic333
      @tragiic333 2 роки тому

      You forget that this was a stronger Marco in wano

  • @LilTyrantMusic
    @LilTyrantMusic 2 роки тому +1

    You guys need to do more videos 🤣🤣🤣. This is literally how it's like speaking to my friends about one piece.

  • @Ojkkkkkkkk300
    @Ojkkkkkkkk300 2 роки тому

    Liked vid before it even started. This link up is forever fire🔥

  • @lamchop_16
    @lamchop_16 2 роки тому +4

    Dawg this is most wild kingoflighting title this year 😂😂

  • @killacahji9484
    @killacahji9484 2 роки тому +4

    Would love to see this collab once every Oda break…
    Doesn’t even need to be one piece related… Y’all could “discuss” Tuesday vs Wednesday and still be entertaining af

  • @monkeydmenace4690
    @monkeydmenace4690 2 роки тому

    Love these collabs !!

  • @tyrese5289
    @tyrese5289 2 роки тому

    Love the collab

  • @lytergy0
    @lytergy0 2 роки тому +13

    KOL GOING CRAZY WITH THE TITLES LMAO

  • @TwoForFlinchin1
    @TwoForFlinchin1 2 роки тому +64

    Why do people think observation haki is inconsistent? If you're focusing really hard on something in front of you in the heat of battle then someone sneaking up on you is going to be pretty easy.
    Edit: if you're going to reply in this thread then please give an example of observation haki failing in a one-v-one. If you're sitting at a stop sign and someone rear ends you, that's not a failure of observation if you were focusing on oncoming traffic

    • @95seb123
      @95seb123 2 роки тому +24

      Katakuri basically said this as well. CoO is not always active and the strongest characters have shown that if they get distracted or frustrated, using CoO becomes more difficult or there are gaps in what they can sense. Especially future sight

    • @Mambo-Italiano
      @Mambo-Italiano 2 роки тому

      Nah that's just copium, or Fuji is getting washed.

    • @imnotaclown9603
      @imnotaclown9603 2 роки тому +1

      @@Mambo-Italiano what?

    • @imnotaclown9603
      @imnotaclown9603 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, He can see the future and senses every attack coming his way, and couldn't notice the darts flying past him

    • @bonerpants7203
      @bonerpants7203 2 роки тому +17

      @@Mambo-Italiano Fuji doesn't use his eyes to see, so he can't be distracted mid fight. He's constantly using obs just to see.

  • @officialparrishpage4
    @officialparrishpage4 2 роки тому +1

    The thumbnail made me watch this at 3:33AM. I HAD TOO!!!

  • @xoe6
    @xoe6 2 роки тому

    Bruh I love when these 2 get together and debate can never get enough they both gonna go crazy when next chapter comes out and I can't wait lol

  • @punctualwizard
    @punctualwizard 2 роки тому +15

    Power scaling is usually a yawn. But these two make it actually an entertaining thing. I agree and disagree with both of em throughout the diatribe to the point that I don’t know if there’s a clear winner imo. Started out agreeing with Brago and ended thinking the akainu uwu thumbnail may be too accurate. Next channel is Brago D Akainu 😆

  • @fiidisksdiduui1898
    @fiidisksdiduui1898 2 роки тому +21

    Another video where brago bullies KOL in his own channel💀

    • @thetruth997_
      @thetruth997_ 2 роки тому +6

      Now that I think about it, there was no way Shanks and his crew was gonna beat Akainu,Aokiji and Kizaru at the same time. Not too mention the marines still had the warlords except Mihawk, and some ok vice admirals

    • @fiidisksdiduui1898
      @fiidisksdiduui1898 2 роки тому +3

      @@thetruth997_ No way. I think shanks is top 1 but he aint THAT strong

    • @wavydavey2156
      @wavydavey2156 2 роки тому +1

      @@fiidisksdiduui1898 i cant lie i think shanks folds all of them his haki might be unstoppable by them

    • @milzhere
      @milzhere 2 роки тому

      @@thetruth997_ exactly. The only reason they didn't try Shanks was because of blackbeard.

    • @imnotaclown9603
      @imnotaclown9603 2 роки тому +2

      @@wavydavey2156 but that's headcanon

  • @themedia_ghost9998
    @themedia_ghost9998 2 роки тому +1

    That title is perfect! LOL

  • @johnnypollack3243
    @johnnypollack3243 2 роки тому

    Love the video and keep up the great work KOL

  • @erichite3398
    @erichite3398 2 роки тому +83

    I remember waaaay back seeing Aokiji for the first time. It was the one of the most mind blowing moments in One Piece. It was a huge leap forward in the scale of what a single person was capable of. He froze the ocean farther than the eye could see for miles to the next island. Thats a feat. Gotta respect the Admirals.

    • @alistairlumu5168
      @alistairlumu5168 2 роки тому

      Deffo

    • @vistaxx
      @vistaxx 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah Not only That the Admirals are definetely on the Level of yonkos

    • @timorbalimore4011
      @timorbalimore4011 2 роки тому +1

      @@vistaxx I think it the yonkos should prove themselves to be on the Admiral level since Buggy. Cuz we all know Big mom & Buggy would never be fit to be an admiral

    • @harsh_1910
      @harsh_1910 2 роки тому +11

      @@timorbalimore4011 I'm an admiral guy but that is just wrong as big mom was said to have the potential to be fleet admiral

    • @milzhere
      @milzhere 2 роки тому +1

      @@harsh_1910 she did not live up to that potential

  • @loveqeeb8643
    @loveqeeb8643 2 роки тому +7

    kol getting owned on his own channel 🤦🏾

  • @santiagoreto3999
    @santiagoreto3999 2 роки тому

    I love this videos! Im team yonko all the way but brago has such good arguments which makes it fun!! 😁

  • @traviscarlson8810
    @traviscarlson8810 2 роки тому

    This combo is awesome lmao. Y’all are hilarious

  • @shadelle11
    @shadelle11 2 роки тому +19

    I don't think that there's any debate that Whitebeard would have inevitably died for Akainu's attacks even if Blackbeard hadn't showed up. Honestly just given his anatomy being a regular human the chest blow alone would kill Shanks.

    • @estebanbr7596
      @estebanbr7596 2 роки тому

      The guy was holding back the whole time to not destroy the island. If akainu really left wb to die off while hiding then it only speaks of his incompetence. Who is to say whitebeard wont do a final attack to blow up all marine ford. Sp either he got two shotted or he is fxking oncompetent.

    • @shadelle11
      @shadelle11 2 роки тому +2

      @@estebanbr7596whether he was holding back or not is irrelevant Akainu still got those hits in and there's no way Whitebeard who was already on his way out going into Marineford was living to see the next day with half his face gone.

    • @mystermans2295
      @mystermans2295 2 роки тому

      Not to mention that the cannon final attack that Akainu did on Whitebeard was blow half his head off and KOL loves to never talk about that.

  • @senpaii5176
    @senpaii5176 2 роки тому +7

    Both can be wrong and right but I feel like KOL is underestimating AKAINU but that might just be me being biased since I’m an ADMIRAL fan more than YONKO

  • @killerbean1946
    @killerbean1946 2 роки тому

    I love when Brago and King pull up it’s a madness

  • @bannanaman3462
    @bannanaman3462 2 роки тому

    Ok I love this

  • @agimedward5708
    @agimedward5708 2 роки тому +3

    More admiral slander yesssss

  • @sshuraii
    @sshuraii 2 роки тому +4

    Yoo this title though. I remember in the other video KOL said the admirals don’t have any bodies and BDA was like, excuse me? Akainu, Ace?

  • @iceman4169
    @iceman4169 2 роки тому

    One piece hype for life great 👍🏻 video nice 👍🏻 hype!!!!!!!!

  • @adoniscreed4031
    @adoniscreed4031 2 роки тому +1

    These coversations are the fucking gift that keeps giving 🤣

  • @AzenHawke1995
    @AzenHawke1995 2 роки тому +31

    Can't wait for Oda to finally show Kizaru's true strength and have him as the true strongest admiral

    • @noir2024
      @noir2024 2 роки тому

      @@DonatiVI it's called inferiority complex!! While other admirals are trying their best to demonstrate their potential, Kizaru is just chilling lol

    • @azrael5493
      @azrael5493 2 роки тому

      @@DonatiVI He was having fun. We've never ever seen him take anything seriously.

    • @beingofinconceivablehorror1854
      @beingofinconceivablehorror1854 2 роки тому

      @@azrael5493 its his job and he is under orders to capture the pirates that hit a celestial dragon. There is 0 evidence he was not taking it seriously. Stop confusing his laid back personality for lack of trying.

    • @imsentinelprime9279
      @imsentinelprime9279 2 роки тому +3

      @@beingofinconceivablehorror1854 let's just be honest. Kizaru just sucks at his job. But has a op devil fruit. Put it in the hands of someone that is actually responsible then you REALLY HAVE A MONSTER on our hands.

    • @imsentinelprime9279
      @imsentinelprime9279 2 роки тому

      Kizaru is probably one of the more incompetent admirals.

  • @Abyssionknight
    @Abyssionknight 2 роки тому +64

    I find it weird that Brago keeps saying Whitebeard is only human, but then disregards / downplays Whitebeards heart attack. When someone gets a heart attack they are no where even remotely close to their best immediately afterwards. People are struggling to breath, feeling exhausted and dizzy, massive pain and soreness throughout the body and in some cases just passing out. So Brago has to choose. Either Whitebeard is 'only human' and was fighting on par with Akainu at less than half strength, or Whitebeard is beyond human, in which case Koe's criticisms about Whitebeards durability and strength compared to other Yonko are 100% valid.

    • @ralph39er73
      @ralph39er73 2 роки тому +7

      Think he was saying akainu is only human

    • @josephjager9156
      @josephjager9156 2 роки тому

      Oda down played wbs heart attack that moment he drew him losing part of his head to Akainu yet was completely fine despite falling on his knees eariler to his heart attack literally made no sense

    • @kindle184
      @kindle184 2 роки тому

      Dude in one piece disease and injury don't effect your Attack power I thought even a dummy knew that.

    • @X35Earthwalker
      @X35Earthwalker 2 роки тому +1

      Off course the obvious evidence is ignored. Injuries do effect attack power. It's obvious to dummies. Hit a punching bag, then get stabbed and have a heart attack, then hit that punching bag again. You'll see the difference

    • @kindle184
      @kindle184 2 роки тому

      By that logic zoro shouldn't even be able to carry his sword hell he should not even able to move with all his 206 bones broken let alone do a full power asura attack on kaido. The amount double standard and hypocrisy is just too much in one piece community for their loved character.

  • @okarra8199
    @okarra8199 2 роки тому +2

    Beautiful agendas today lads🤣I’m not goin for vista as strong as Mihawk

  • @brandtmichael3868
    @brandtmichael3868 2 роки тому

    Two of my favorites coming together

  • @eloquitodelaesquina
    @eloquitodelaesquina 2 роки тому +8

    Bro its easy.
    If Kaido takes those two attacks from Whitebard from behind he IS FALLING
    And then he would come back one chapter later just like Akainu did
    Its not like we havent seen Kaido falling.

    • @bensylver5113
      @bensylver5113 2 роки тому +4

      exactly

    • @novsmith4547
      @novsmith4547 2 роки тому

      Tbh i dont think he's gonna stay down as long as Akainu did. I think he flys out and jumps right back into the fight with WB

    • @eloquitodelaesquina
      @eloquitodelaesquina 2 роки тому +3

      @@novsmith4547 Maybe Kaido does that since that would be his priority, but remember Akainu was chasing Luffy BEFORE whitebeard got in the middle, and so he countinued to go after Luffy IMMEDIATELY
      If he took time he wouldnt have caught Luffy and Jinbe, he went right away
      If Kaido's priority was to chase Luffy he would go and chase him flying, just like Akainu did underground. They just have different powers.

    • @derekricaurte3837
      @derekricaurte3837 2 роки тому +3

      @@novsmith4547 akainu was down for a chapter and we know he had to be moving during that time to catch up to luffy. also the events that happened while he was gone could not have been more than 5-10 mins. he also fell down far below ground and he cant fly he can only propel himself upwards a bit from a quick magma burst but cant sustain it enough to fully defy gravity

  • @rdrummer2
    @rdrummer2 2 роки тому +5

    Hold up. Kinemon surviving an Akainu onslaught? Kol what are you smoking chief?

  • @MrNasheT
    @MrNasheT 2 роки тому

    you two need a podcast!!! even post one piece. The energies match so well

  • @akshyadulal1455
    @akshyadulal1455 2 роки тому

    Lol the thumbnail..OMG,I can't unsee it.

  • @Tredawakandan
    @Tredawakandan 2 роки тому +8

    I do agree with KoL that Whitebeard was the weakest yonko during marineford. In terms of Luffy vs that Whitebeard I say
    Luffy is stronger in attack potency but not area of effect. The quake fruit offers great AoE.. I will say I think Whitebeard was stronger physically that is until we compare him to gear 5.. Let's remember BB took a bloodlusted(yes he was on his deathbed) attack from that Whitebeard and got back up and kept fighting. Add to that the Yami Yami makes him take 2x damage. I wouldn't say Whitebeard who did that was way weaker then when he just thrashed akainu..
    Akainu attacking Kinemon doesn't mean automatic death. Kinemon survived kaido hit and curiel is still alive after akainu...

  • @generationsigma646
    @generationsigma646 2 роки тому +12

    So this is what ultimate anti Admirals copium looks like!...💀💀💀

  • @OutsideSingle21
    @OutsideSingle21 2 роки тому

    This is gold you and king need a joint channel

  • @regeice
    @regeice 2 роки тому

    This has been the best discussion ever.

  • @kennethmclawhorn9085
    @kennethmclawhorn9085 2 роки тому +8

    I'm not gonna argue strength ect. The big picture is if akainu didn't strategically pull himself from the fight after landing life ending blows to whitebeard it was pretty clear whitebeard would have killed him, then dies himself. This was oda's way of showing admirals and yonko can compete with one another. Again this is not a power scaling Comment because one piece is notoriously inconsistent with power scaling (which frankly I love). Just pointing out the point of the scene and what was clear to the reader.

  • @blankenator62
    @blankenator62 2 роки тому +18

    Yeah KOL you're dead wrong about WB. He had his insides pumped with magma... his insane willpower is the only thing animating that old man's body, he was basically a reanimated corpse. After Akainu was done with him WB was a dying man

    • @aidanpinkney9005
      @aidanpinkney9005 2 роки тому +10

      this is huge cope lmfao, WB was still stunting on akainu even after getting hit by his magma multiple times.

    • @thetruth997_
      @thetruth997_ 2 роки тому +8

      I blame the anime for making Whitebeard look way better and literally censoring key moments. Whitebeard got half his face blown off..... then another gaping hole in his chest then his insides filled with magma again. Dude was walking around like a zombie lmao he was dead

    • @tyjairchambers8183
      @tyjairchambers8183 2 роки тому +3

      @@aidanpinkney9005 exactly I don't know how anyone could say that whitebeard isn't stronger akainu. Last time I checked akainu had to use underhanded tactics ( squardo) and then he waited to fight whitebeard after this man fought damn near everyone else including kuzan and kizaru at one point, just to get two shotted. Now we can make the case of an admiral being stronger than a yonko when we see 1 of them take on a yonko and win without backup. Outside of that it's dumb asf to compare them to anyone, even green bull doesn't get any props right now, cudos to him for defeating two commander's although they were weak at the time lol

    • @imnotaclown9603
      @imnotaclown9603 2 роки тому +5

      @@tyjairchambers8183 Round 1, Whitebeard couldn't land a hit on Wb
      Round 2, WB HAS TO SNEAK AKAINU to land a hit, just to lose half of his head... It's pretty clear who's stronger

    • @blankenator62
      @blankenator62 2 роки тому

      @@aidanpinkney9005 I never said WB wasn't able to still fight after taking the magma hits, I'm saying he was only able to do so because of his legendary status and unmatched willpower. If the battle ended in the victory of the WB pirates and and they escaped with all their members after taking the magma hits, WB would still die from those injuries. It's like how Oden managed to keep himself alive to complete his purpose to save his retainers by his insane willpower. Even if Kaido didn't shoot him in the head, he was a dead man since he had sustained too much damage to his vitals. WB had a third of his brain blown off and had his torso pumped full of magma. Just like Fisher Tiger he would die some time after the end of the battle.

  • @BlackTeaShirt
    @BlackTeaShirt 2 роки тому

    Man its sensation to watch these

  • @Ballerx230
    @Ballerx230 2 роки тому +1

    Omg this was too ddamnnnn funny

  • @Rock.D.Casbah
    @Rock.D.Casbah 2 роки тому +35

    Whitebeard was not walking away from the injuries that Akianu gave him. Akianu did walk away. End of story

    • @justjoking4223
      @justjoking4223 2 роки тому +6

      Whitebeard was on dialysis drip. End of story.

    • @olisanzeribe6391
      @olisanzeribe6391 2 роки тому +5

      But then you forget Whitebeard had a heart attack before Akainu even landed a single hit. It’s not as easy as that

    • @Kami-ye9lx
      @Kami-ye9lx 2 роки тому +6

      @@olisanzeribe6391 and Akainu literally needed to manipulate a crew member to stab Whitebeard 😭

    • @beingofinconceivablehorror1854
      @beingofinconceivablehorror1854 2 роки тому +3

      Akainu isn't walking away from the heart attack whitebeard had if it were him 🤷‍♂️ or even swap whitebeard with akainu. Akainu and pirates get steam rolled by marines and Whitebeard, way more one sided than the original fight.

  • @8Drought
    @8Drought 2 роки тому +3

    Green bull and fujitoria got folded by sabo and few good men

  • @JarryMingles
    @JarryMingles 2 роки тому

    I could listen/watch a 1-on-1 reveriee with these two for hours.

  • @user-ok5xs8gl7x
    @user-ok5xs8gl7x 2 роки тому

    This convo is crazy😂

  • @robertosantibanez
    @robertosantibanez 2 роки тому +21

    How does the injuries not matter?
    Oda has continually put the Yonko as the one’s to take damage before the real fights. Never had an Admiral been in that position , let’s wait what happens when Greenbull is placed in that position before he fights someone at his tier.
    Akainu / Kuzan / Kizaru / Fujitora have never been in a position like Whitebeard or Kaido were. They are true freaking monsters who took so much damage before they fought someone relevant to their tier.
    Flip it around and have Akainu take a blade through his torso , take damage from hundreds, and go on to fight Whitebeard.

    • @Mambo-Italiano
      @Mambo-Italiano 2 роки тому +11

      You forgot about giving his some terminal disease, which is so bad, that he constantly has to stay hooked with a life support system.

    • @faceagain5703
      @faceagain5703 2 роки тому +7

      also make akainu old , out of prime , hoooked on medical machines AND have weaker haki than usual which even marco someone who has been with wb for DECADES noticed.

    • @noir2024
      @noir2024 2 роки тому

      They want that attaboy lol

    • @babauzuafa5332
      @babauzuafa5332 2 роки тому

      @@noir2024 😭😭

    • @cy4069
      @cy4069 2 роки тому

      @@faceagain5703 that's not fair since Prime WB is way beyond any of the current yonkos

  • @myniggazoro954
    @myniggazoro954 2 роки тому +5

    KOL is coping hard. This is too funny😭

    • @Mohamadtheman
      @Mohamadtheman 11 місяців тому

      KOL ? More like KOPE I’m I right ?

  • @Bentahila
    @Bentahila 2 роки тому

    The BEST duo of OP youtubers debating!

  • @jadedcode8953
    @jadedcode8953 2 роки тому

    these two are hilarious!

  • @bigmeatybaby1133
    @bigmeatybaby1133 2 роки тому +16

    No one in the verse has the attack potency of Akainu. He might not be the strongest character ever overall but his physical and internal damage output is unmatched

    • @joshsmith1225
      @joshsmith1225 2 роки тому +4

      Did you not just see what luffy can do now one little magma punch not breaking whole islands

    • @firefalcon4590
      @firefalcon4590 2 роки тому +8

      @@joshsmith1225 He's talking about damage itself, Akainu's power allows to even melt the opponent, punches in the best case crush the opponent (In one piece world you only get knocked out or die at best)
      Akainu can really actually be much weaker than Luffy
      But what if his awakening allows him to create volcanoes like krakatoa and form a giant lava fists? Which can be more deadly, a giant lava fist or a giant fist?

    • @Hextazen
      @Hextazen 2 роки тому

      @@joshsmith1225
      destructive capacity=/=attack potency bitchboy.

    • @gaeron1305
      @gaeron1305 2 роки тому

      @@firefalcon4590 depends on the strength of the haki on the fist.

    • @firefalcon4590
      @firefalcon4590 2 роки тому

      @@gaeron1305 It's not about strength, it's about what is deadliest/have more damage

  • @Chuck_Brownn
    @Chuck_Brownn 2 роки тому +21

    Akainu is more lethal, his offense is deadly.

    • @edwinvillalobos7159
      @edwinvillalobos7159 2 роки тому

      Kinemon hard counters magma is molten rocks he can turn all of akainus attacks into piles of garments😂

  • @greenpooljama
    @greenpooljama 2 роки тому

    i’m crying bro this thumbnail and title are running duos on my lungs 😭😭💀💀

  • @Foxomar1
    @Foxomar1 2 роки тому +1

    This is peak entertainment 🤣

  • @deante6506
    @deante6506 2 роки тому +22

    Kol is so biased it's ridiculous. The fact that he doesn't think that Akainu's attacks were the main contribution to Whitebeard's death, when Akainu took nearly half of Whitebeard's brain. Does KOL believe that WB would survive without half of his head ? Blackbeard finished off a Whitebeard that was literally a walking dead man, moving only off of his will power. Blackbeard needed his entire crew to finish off a dead man. Without the wounds from Akainu WB would neg diff Blackbeard and his entire crew.

    • @scarfacemartinez
      @scarfacemartinez 2 роки тому +2

      Will power is strength in the One Piece world tho

    • @deante6506
      @deante6506 2 роки тому +1

      @@scarfacemartinez But I don't think that even in One Piece will power will allow you to live without half of your brain.

    • @scarfacemartinez
      @scarfacemartinez 2 роки тому +2

      @@deante6506 if you check again it wasn’t half his head it was around 1/4th plus don’t forget Jimbei survived an attack from Akainu ,of course he had to get healed up I’m just sayin he survived it and he’s back at peak strength in wano

    • @gaythugsmatter7029
      @gaythugsmatter7029 2 роки тому

      @@scarfacemartinez jimbe brain didn’t get melted by lava try again no human is surviving that even in op

    • @scarfacemartinez
      @scarfacemartinez 2 роки тому +1

      @@gaythugsmatter7029 So?? he got a hole in his chest I don’t think anyone would survive that.Whitebeard got hit with the shot in the head and didn’t even react to it ,after he automatically hits akainu .

  • @TheOnlyBlackHipster
    @TheOnlyBlackHipster 2 роки тому +4

    I like how BDA doesn’t let KOL finish a single point and constantly interrupts him every time he tries to make a point like if you’re right let him say his point lol

    • @kindle184
      @kindle184 2 роки тому +3

      I thought it was the other way it's funny how our pre determined view of world change things when we look at the same thing.

    • @tyruswillier7358
      @tyruswillier7358 2 роки тому +2

      KOL did the same thing I don't know why your singling one of them out.

  • @konekejr
    @konekejr 2 роки тому

    Bro y’all are the best these are the kind of power scaling even talks about one piece lol 😂

  • @bjorn3423
    @bjorn3423 2 роки тому

    please more brago and kol !

  • @bigpurplepops
    @bigpurplepops 2 роки тому +5

    I just give WB the highest raw AP of the Yonko;
    “Strongest man in the world”
    “Power to destroy the world”
    The bloodlust punch into Akainu with his crew gone was essentially ending the narrative thread of him being able to win the war by BFD if Ace and his family weren’t there…
    But compared to Mythical Zoans, ‘Iron Balloons’, and Shank’s Haki old man WB just isn’t a tank fighter. Low defence for an actual War.

    • @antonedatcher4897
      @antonedatcher4897 2 роки тому

      Not while he’s dying I don’t think so, he couldn’t even take down aces executioners without coughing blood. Like we really forget at all times WB is strapped to a respiratory. Like he was so down bad it was crazy

    • @antonedatcher4897
      @antonedatcher4897 2 роки тому

      We seen what type of man young whitebeard was bro was jumping across islands 😂. And coming down with with fast movement he was so slow at marineford

    • @bigpurplepops
      @bigpurplepops 2 роки тому

      @@antonedatcher4897 In terms of his sickness it definitely hurt his fighting ability; but having a heart attack when he tries to use conqueror’s doesn’t change the fact his punch levelled the remainder of Marine Ford…

  • @Vavant245
    @Vavant245 2 роки тому +10

    Sakazuki’s attacks are all WAY more dangerous in a 1v1 compared to kaido’s, however kaido’s attacks are more devastating overall, hope that makes sense.

    • @Clown_Syndrome
      @Clown_Syndrome 2 роки тому

      It doesn't

    • @ilikechicken5524
      @ilikechicken5524 Рік тому

      ​@@Clown_Syndrome He's saying Akainu could destroy a mountain but luffy could take it directly and be fine. Akainu might not destroy that mountain, but getting hit by that attack would mean losing a limb or your life. Similar to Magellans poison i guess. it isn't very devastating but it's EXTEMELY lethal.

    • @Clown_Syndrome
      @Clown_Syndrome Рік тому

      @@ilikechicken5524 but it's devastating to your life and health.

    • @ilikechicken5524
      @ilikechicken5524 Рік тому

      @@Clown_Syndrome devastating in the sense of destruction capability. An attack that destroys a mountain vs one that doesn't but is much more powerful

  • @konekejr
    @konekejr 2 роки тому

    Lol I love them so much man the best

  • @Duke15k
    @Duke15k 2 роки тому +2

    Man I love these 2 arguing and blatantly coping against each other 😂

  • @warcrabcyber9908
    @warcrabcyber9908 2 роки тому +31

    Yonkou over admiral, although I have my suspicion that akainu has conqueror haki. Kinemon has plot armor. Kinemon was basically operating with the wacky properties of law devil fruit even though law reconnected his body.

    • @saitama5219
      @saitama5219 2 роки тому

      "Plot armor"

    • @thehanma2776
      @thehanma2776 2 роки тому

      Of Course Yonkou will always be stronger than Admiraltard

    • @karma5534
      @karma5534 2 роки тому

      Plot Armor but law didn't reconnect kinemons body....it was sanji or kinemon himself.

    • @milzhere
      @milzhere 2 роки тому +2

      @@thehanma2776 wrong

    • @thehanma2776
      @thehanma2776 2 роки тому

      @@milzhere Facts 💯

  • @mikey_dh5662
    @mikey_dh5662 2 роки тому +10

    Old man WB was the weakest Yonki but still can beat each admiral 1vs1 8 out of 10 times. Thats with the stab wound and haeart attack without that he beats them 10 out of 10 1v1. High diff but still he wins

    • @jasonmatthews52
      @jasonmatthews52 2 роки тому +2

      That's cap, most of the attacks WB was landing on Akainu and the other admirals were filler. In the manga WB was getting folded by the admirals.

    • @Khaled68335
      @Khaled68335 Рік тому +1

      @@jasonmatthews52 Whitebeard knocked out akainu in 2 hits and akainu was out and no wear to be found for in entire chapter
      If that was a legit 1vs1 WB would’ve killed him. You really consider those achievements against a dying sick men with heart attacks?
      Any admirals will get folded by any yonko

    • @depresseddude914
      @depresseddude914 Рік тому

      Kizaru literally clapped him on many occasions
      Stop your fanboying

  • @Lan96
    @Lan96 2 роки тому +1

    The title & thumbnail is..unique to say the least 😂

  • @MaaL113
    @MaaL113 2 роки тому

    I wanna get in a chat n debate these type of videos with y’all they so funny bro😂😂😂😂

    • @thetruth997_
      @thetruth997_ 2 роки тому

      Sign up for King of Lightning's tier 3 discussion videos on twitch after his One Piece streams. You gotta pay tho lol

  • @azureskybox3024
    @azureskybox3024 2 роки тому +22

    White Beard was arguably the weakest yonko because of 1) He was old and had heart attacks 2) he was very sick 3) his Haki was down (main point) 4) add to that some serious injuries.
    Haki is the main component here.
    Before Marineford, yonko are super durable mainly because of their haki. Their haki is so powerful that they create storm clouds just from clashing.
    Admirals are known for their powerful DF. Their DF would overwhelm almost anyone in the one piece world. They also have good range which makes them over powered when fighting multiple opponents. The only way to counter them is to use an opposing DF or a stronger Haki.
    And that is the main advantage of yonko over admiral. They can successful fight admirals for extended periods of time while deal potent damage. Their range may or may not be great but that wouldn't matter in a 1v1 (speed can make up for it). Moreover, they also mostly have some of the most powerful DFs as well or some great weapon mastery.
    The way I see it, admirals will thrive in group battles while yonko are best at 1v1. There is a good reason while you might want to bet on Kaido on 1v1. As well as why Kaido values haki more. In fact, the fact that we have people like Roger and Shanks is very telling.
    This is not to say admirals have no haki just like how most yonko also have powerful DFs.
    This is while I also believe Luffy has surpassed old WB but not Kaido.
    Big Mom would also be somewhere in the middle because she relies too much on DF (her durability is still top notch though).
    On the other hand, I think BB will go/has gone beyond admirals because he has mastered multiple DF. If he gets another DF like say a Black Tortoise or some other mythical Zoan, his durability would also be up there (and it will be sure to have other useful abilities). This will mean that by then he would have ATK, DEF, and DEBUFF. Which would still make him have an easier time with the admirals that a typical yonko. If he awakens ALL the his DF...

  • @TheMrstevewalker
    @TheMrstevewalker 2 роки тому +38

    Kol Copium at an all time high 😂💀

  • @fudgerrr9385
    @fudgerrr9385 2 роки тому +1

    That thumbnail is a war crime 😂

  • @freeman8551
    @freeman8551 2 роки тому

    Bias brago is back!!!!

  • @kryptonight63
    @kryptonight63 2 роки тому +4

    Every One Piece powerscaling discussion always ends up going back to Marineford lol

    • @avalac7412
      @avalac7412 2 роки тому +3

      fr lol it's a major waste of time imo cause we didn't see characters even going all out and haki was barely as lethal as it currently is. one piece lacks the ability to flesh characters out in great detail which leaves people coming up with headcanon on who they think is stronger most the time.
      and people having featless characters like shanks as the strongest with no valid reasoning behind it.

    • @2pieceopbr628
      @2pieceopbr628 2 роки тому

      @@avalac7412 ryou was displayed in marineford by the three admirals when they pushed their hands out and akainu used future sight to dodge vista’s Haki slash. Vista himself even stated that he infused Haki. Two out of three forms of advanced Haki were shown in marineford.

    • @avalac7412
      @avalac7412 2 роки тому

      ​@@2pieceopbr628 ik all that, but it wasn't depicted visually like it is now

  • @RocketTMac1
    @RocketTMac1 2 роки тому +3

    Brago’s admiral agenda shows HEAVY in these conversations lol.

    • @avalac7412
      @avalac7412 2 роки тому +6

      they're the final obstacle for the straw hats oda has been building up for ages now.

    • @MetakJesu07
      @MetakJesu07 2 роки тому +2

      And KOL's Yonko agenda doesn't? lol.

    • @avalac7412
      @avalac7412 2 роки тому

      @@MetakJesu07 fr lol brago is jus trying to bring balance to the debate, king is so easy to read, far before he says anything you know the agenda he is gonna push. The yonko wank is all he does these days, he used to be somewhat credible back in the days.

    • @novsmith4547
      @novsmith4547 2 роки тому

      @@avalac7412 you sound so hurt. This man let you down or something?

    • @tragiic333
      @tragiic333 2 роки тому

      Yonko>admirals

  • @ifantsaurells3014
    @ifantsaurells3014 2 роки тому

    Watch out 4 spooilersss 1054..
    One word BOMBASTIC

  • @charlesredd9619
    @charlesredd9619 2 роки тому

    AYOO!! THIS TITLE OUTTA POCKET🧐🤷🏾🤣🤣🤣

  • @loveqeeb8643
    @loveqeeb8643 2 роки тому +16

    how are we debating if akainu is yonko level when we have clearly seen him fight a yonko.

    • @urekmazino6800
      @urekmazino6800 2 роки тому

      He lost to a half dead yonko with cancer 🤣

    • @softelocke491
      @softelocke491 2 роки тому

      I’m not sure where brago puts him, but I think he puts akainu top 2

    • @guilha3797
      @guilha3797 2 роки тому +3

      And he stomped

    • @Ligma_Shlong
      @Ligma_Shlong 2 роки тому

      marco yonko level according to you

    • @harsh_1910
      @harsh_1910 2 роки тому

      I do think he is but this is a terrible argument as according to that nami is yonko level as she was fighting buggy alongside luffy

  • @KyubiCloaks
    @KyubiCloaks 2 роки тому +3

    6:50 nah bruh we all know observation haki is inconsistent asf. Kaido aint make it work if thats the case why couldn't kaido and luffy (two people whose observation haki is so good they can use future sight) sense the cp0 agent before he jumped onto luffy

    • @novsmith4547
      @novsmith4547 2 роки тому +1

      Observation haki comes and goes as the plot requires it to imo

  • @canned3880
    @canned3880 2 роки тому

    That basketball part was hilarious

  • @daxmasterix
    @daxmasterix 2 роки тому

    Best pals on having different opinions