AUSA 2019: GM Defense's Infantry Squad Vehicle (ISV) for U.S. Army
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2019
- Shaun Connors talks to David Albritton, President, General Motors Defense LLC and Matthew Scrase, Performance Variant Manager, General Motors Defense LLC about GM Defense’s Infantry Squad Vehicle (ISV) proposal for the U.S. Army.
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What people miss about this program is the operational requirement that it is supposed to fit. It is for rapid mobility for Airborne/ Light Infantry units to move from the DZ/ LZ to the objective in a Air Defense Heavy environment. It is not made for combat patrols or for a large force on force operation. It is a taxi service, so the vehicles need to be cheap, light, and fast.
Exactly, JLTV is good but also heavier for a light Airborne/SOF raid/Air assault operation.
I remember that the Rangers used Land Rivers around the 90s / 2000 not sure , so this would be something like the british vehicle , cheap , light and with spare parts in the civilian market.
@@multimossad they got the Mercedes truck not too long ago.
The problem with that is there is no such think as what it's built for. You have to assume enemy forces will be present and they'll have the least common denominator of AKs, LMGs and RPGs.
@@swmark78 exactamundo.
Judging from the comments, most people really don’t understand the role of this vehicle at all. 🤦🏻♂️
They need to send one to Montana and let me put it through the works.
mount a GAU-19 .50 rotary cannon on the back and you've got yourself an M12 Warthog, lol
were going to need this for when the Terminators come.
It's very clear to see the dust being kicked up is entering the cab, I sincerely hope that they put substantial mud guards on the final product, I wouldn't want to be in it over dusty terrain, especially the rear seats area. If its a prototype then I am sure that will be addressed, otherwise there are going to be some very miserable people using colourful language.
Private, get in the back.
i have seen the heavy troop vehicles they are mine rsistant i think these are for rougher terrain where those behemoths wont be able to go.
That "truck" is awesome!
I saw the Flyer Defense ISV on the sling load pad at BAF like a month and a half ago. It's already here in theater and probably was delivered to some ODA or other SOF element. So I'm guessing GM didn't get the contract?
Yeah my Hummer H3 is solid rear axle...it is great!
Them seats behind the back axle is going to be a shit place to be.
Uh private, what are you doing? Get to the back!
I volunteered to sit back there, it’s not awful. And we went through some pretty good mud puddles, we actually barely got any on us. Not too bad
Would be nice to see regular cab with flatbed option
As an outdoorsman, that looks fun.....if the weather is right. As an old school Infantryman, it looks like nothing short of a death trap. I'd rather walk.
Could use some light armor to keep the dust out, and bullets. (Would also look cooler.
Mostly a "parts bin" vehicle - which is fine. Keeps costs down so you can make available large numbers of them. And it does what it's supposed to do. A very rudimentary, single-purpose mission: to transport an infantry squad. However, once the squad is dismounted, what do you do w/the vehicle?
mount a gau-19 on it and sell it in the ME
Chop block and drip pan
This is assuming there is open terrain, or roads. And to carry a battalion, it will require about 120 vehicles, 50 mechanics, parts supply, fuel supply. And will make troops more vulnerable to enemy fire because they are concentrated.
I know things change. But I will always miss that M-151 Jeep. It's a classic that nothing else can compare.
We had them in the RoK in 82-83...
A Colorado that runs on JP-8? Yes please!!!
Looks like a useful vehicle for the Military.
6:26 Did he say 286hp? I thought it was barely 200hp
Does it come with a roof and doors
They should use that front end on a Colorado based SUV. I would definitely buy it.
Should've been the 3.0 Duramax, although that one might just be too new to use for the military.
Seating layout looks a bit crap, doesn't look like it has much stowage for POL, water, ammo, batteries rations, maintenance and recvoery equipment, defense stores, etc etc. Yes the raised. roof section above the rear seats might be used for lighter stuff, e.g. the cam net, but I suspect any heavy stores, POL, water up there would mess with the center of gravity.
Sure a second class ride is better than a first class march, but as shown it doesn't look like there's been much thought about the requirements for living and operating in the field.
Basically it looks like it can carry the 9 grunts, their personel equipment and that's it - and they don't event have racks for their personel weapons by the look of it.
I suspect once it gets to the field it won't have enough growth in it to accomodate real battlefield needs and may end up becomng a 6 man troop carrier to allow for all the stores and equipment actually required in the field. Lucky it is a fairly modular looking build.
how does it stop incoming rounds? well Bob, once you get shot at you stop driving, turn off the ignition, exit the vehicle, and then use your buddies to flip the vehicle over and fire from behind. Good luck.
Greatest looking death trap ever.
I’m guessing nobody will want to just hang out at the truck in truly winter conditions since it has no appearance of weather shelter
Might as well start planning for 8 man squads since you’re never going to just leave a vehicle unattended or even 6 man squads if the truck is also your medium/heavy gun platform. I guess you could get strap hangers for those positions but you still don’t have the seating for your squad at that point
Why does it have a Ford Fusion front end.
Now the enemy only needs a few claymore mines on the sides of buildings and tree to take out the Soldiers in the vehicles. I can see this being used for fast attack to cover a lot of real estate quickly after insertion, but not for regular patrol work where there is an expectation of military forces coming and going from a FOB.
I think they’re aiming for a vehicle to replace the Humvees as Light vehicles to cover a lot of real estate with better fuel milage and compatibility with commercial grade spare parts, probably like the old Jeeps. Patrol duties are now mostly delegated to the MRAPs like the JLTV who got more survivability against IEDs and mines but bulkier.
that's all it's supposed to be used for. Move quickly from the DZ to get to the last tactical mile where they go in on foot. it's not supposed to be an assault vehicle or a patrol vehicle.
The Hummer a light truck was lambasted by the press for no protection for the Dupes how did they get here.
Hi Shaun, your looking good. If you want to go "off road" then go to a gravel plant and climb the three quarter minus pile, up and down. That is the natural angle of repose. If you cannot do that, then, you cannot stay with the soldiers. You can provide transport to the "end of the road" . A ledge, a swamp with cat tails, a snow bank, fallen timber, tall beach grass, willows, sage brush, mesquite, deep snow, mud or blow sand will reject you.
Iguana
Ps I like the comment "open to entertaining"
Basically its a high tech Jeep........ Hopefully they can simplify the transmission and put durability back into the vehicle with simple maintenance and shorter parts lists to keep the logistics side in check. Yeah I work at a chevy dealer...parts guy
Never never concentrate mobile troops in one target; Disperse them with a hoard/swarm of Polaris quads.
Why isn’t reliability an issue? A military vehicle is moot if it can’t get home?
You need to bring your manufacturing back to the US and make us happy and do a better job for the American people before we think about giving you any defense contracts GM...
Americans are watching
Can't contract non-US companies for defense item. The entire powertrain is produced in US + the frame.
It looks fun but it doesn't offer much protection from small arms fire.
Cool but can you throw an LS into it?
This guy answering the questions sounds like a freakin robot !. Lol.
Imagine if they made a variant of this that replaces the rear 4 seats with a full 360 degree swivel turret that could mount a minigun or perhaps someday a railgun lol
fine on flat hard surfaces, i need light armor, 50 cal auto targeting turret , more of a rock climbing suspension! needs improvement
The Hummer a light truck was lambasted by the press for no protection for the Dupes how did they get here.
Canada needs to collect on these💼
This shows we need not go into regen mode while on exfil from the DMZ.
Call me when Toyota has a model
so basically it is a chevy pick up without doors...
That Colorado is tune and deleted to the max black smoke I wonder if the EPA is gonna shut them down .🤔🤔🤔
The EPA cant touch US mil projects, the fuck are you on about? Lmao
The early stages of the halo vehicles
I wonder what the maximum payload for this little rig actually is? 9 bodies, gear, ammo, fuel... that'll add up fast.
Don't want to sit anywhere other than the front row seats!
maybe further ponder a configuration including say, 6x slant-launched Hellfire loadout? Laser-guided 76mm rocket loadout ?
GAU-19
Yes, that too, but I was pondering something also with more 'full-capacity, cost-effective force-multiplication' special capabilities for the warfighter to offser and rebalance various firepower imbalances, or disadvantages shall we say .
@@donkoh5738 M-29 davy crockett then.
@@laserbrain7774 twin round ? deal
Where is the armor.
I don’t know what they are charging for this, but I will built it for half the cost
Actually Guns and Green Paint make many Americans Proud.
thank you from manhattan ©2024
It would appear the next large scale conventional war will be fought with asymmetric warfare weapons.
Use the Jeep Truck with a Cummins turbo
if you only drive it on roads and tracks - you are not showing what troops will do to it.
David Boson fr, they need to try going off-road not on dirt or gravel roads
That’s what they do, the special forces.
engine cracks and overheats in desert
kinda looks like unsc troop carrier.
Bog standard leaf springs... a cheaper , more reliable suspension system for a fast taxi.
Ya , but your not Oskosh are ya !
So it's a Colorado with a few mods.
It’s an H3 hummer, stripped out and beefed up to look tactical.
Uh no....its a Colorado ZR2, stripped down to look tactical.
Another speciality vehicle for a special price. Thanks taxpayers!
Tell ya what. Put on the gear, with full combat load, and ride around in the bitch for a few days, then re-do the seats. Do have any friggin clue how much shit we have to wear? What about the space taken up by radio mounts, BFT, CROWS, water cans, fuel cans, extra batteries for the radios, extra ammo, and chow inside the crew compartment?
Should've given it independent rear suspension.
Does it come with a machine gun ? And anti tank missle launcher ?. Lmmfao!
It s ford ranger army version.
these interview questions aren't good
Some regarding the share holder and environment were not really required but the rest were fine
Wrong, this is soft disclosure. EPA needs its peepee slapped. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Government contracts for emergency vehicles come without the emissions systems. That’s the case for police, fire, ambulance and military vehicles. That said, they could probably decrease harmful emissions and increase range as well as engine life with an HHO system...but they won’t do it.
There seems to be something missing. Hmmm, what could it be?
Oh yeah, armor. Because apparently nothing has been learned since the early 90s about driving unarmored vehicles in possible combat (or definite combat) situations.
Yeah they gonna dodge that 200 round stream of PKM rounds with the vehicles AGILITY and SPEED, they could put virtually weightless Dyneema panels all over it, I just don't get it.
@@Veldtian1 They are desperate trying to believe the last 25 years didn't happen.
If pressed they would probably spout the unless SOCOM mantra of "Armor the person, not the vehicle". Which didn't help in Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan or anywhere else people actually shoot back.
with out any armor personel is not ok!
South African Combat History has shown that that concrpt is doomed to fail... It needs armour and it has ZERO mine and IED protection... Otherwise.. Maybe a workable idea!... For LRRP behind enemy lines... Yes, maybe!
This is just a taxi for airborne infantry. Rather than risk overflying a potentially air defense filled area, drop the paratroopers further away, load them onto this, and let them drive, rather than walk, to the objective
What he should have said after the shareholder comment was. With that accent I can tell you’re not from around here. So that was a silly question. We make war stuff.
Somewhere there is a pkm machine gun smiling at the chance to riddle everyone in this thing with 7.62x54R. Fucking military man sure they say it’s not for frontline use but that’s why they said about the hmmv too
Super car.
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Lol and it will get to an actual line unit in 10 years , first it has to go to the units that will not deploy
Need to be able to sell it to the American people
Amazing GM going for Sahara only as SAS did ages ago
no mine or armor protection for modern warfare=insane idea.
Not really .This is meant for ofensive manuevers for special force units. At the same time it also gives you the advantage easy shooting while moving but that is for pro's
Ol FUCK the soldiers will never get on there mission if there driving a GM vehicle, goddam WHHHHYYYYYYY
I say this as veteran at end day this nothing more than over priced light utility vehicle and no idea what this would cost the U.S. taxpayer.
Bullet proof doors for small arms looks to open to protect troops
It seems these vehicles are being manufactured for whatever environment we are going to invade/operate in. My guess is the Middle East, these vehicles seemed designed for that purpose.
That being said, where's the protective armor!?!
You're not fooling anyone. That's a Warthog
Flat bottom so you are F$&@ed if you hit any type of IED, small gun mounts so maybe a 240 at best, small engine for 9 troops and all their gear, limited storage for ammo, food, water, and weapon system. Maybe an SF vehicle but not for a regular squad that is 11-13 people!
When will the EV be available?
Fucking bullet magnet! Maybe for special forces, not for regular troop transport..
Military doesn't have to listen to the epa. That tells you the epa makes vehicles more unreliable and dangerous as they age
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SOOOOOOOO? bad shooting is it's protection? Maybe a sign that says "don't shoot at us"LOL
Watch the movie death race 2000 thats what the U. S. Is becoming !
sorry that guy doesnt have a clue, hes a car salesman, vague fancy words, my opinion, leaf axles are simplicity, thats all, in 4 wheeling, combat, strut shocks, can give out, thats it...
Literally everything this is meant to do can be done by run of the mill Toyotas and Nissans for literally 1/10 of the cost of this thing. This is nothing but a political gift from Congress to GM. Keep in mind these things cost 330k a unit. This piece of shit is why you can't have affordable healthcare, bridges that aren't collapsing, veterans who aren't left living on the streets or for that matter gear that troops actually need.
....it’s a Colorado with the doors removed
The interviewer asks some pretty stupid questions. As if there’s a problem with a solid rear axle.
Good to see a black man in that high of a position, just shows you how much progress has been made .the vehicle reminds me of the british supercat.
Except this progress is nothing new. 😒
Polaris made it better
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I wonder if the speaker would have been as impressed if he’d shown up on a rainy day in February. Imagine sitting in a wet seat in 40 degree weather. Imagine being the guy sitting in the middle back seat. You start taking incoming fire. The two outside guys are killed. How quickly can you get out? This thing looks like pork barrel spending. It’ll probably be great for going to the range on post. Not sure I’d want to be in it outside the wire. What about artillery and/or biological weapons? What about IED’s. Did we learn nothing in Iraq?
Based on the Chevy Colorado ZR2, no thank you for 9 troops
No footage of this thing stacked with dudes in full gear?
D I S A P P O I N T M E N T
*It's still cool though!*
Hope these don’t see combat.