One Thumb Drive For Multiple ISOs
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- Опубліковано 25 гру 2022
- I am going to show you how to make a single USB drive boot several ISOs. We are doing this with a program called Ventoy. I have tons of USB drives and this has became a real problem for me because I can't remember what's on them all. So I'm just going to make one drive hold them all. Sounds like a good plan.
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There is the ancient art of labeling
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@@CyberCPU also I have a ring of Kingston USB sticks for those needs... At my keys, with labels...
I kinda thought the same. But it doesn't discount the benefits of ventoy
@@Redeem195 shur, it can be useful but the try to sell it as solution for keeping order is just not selling it to me
The issue I run into is by the time I add all the details I need to the label, I have to use my phone in macro mode to try and read the label. And then I have to relabel every few months as I rev versions of whatever the latest Linux image I'm testing. I'm really thinking for the home lab I need to just set up network booting, but it doesn't help when I'm on vacation fixing the relatives' PC. I grabbed a cheap 128GB drive from the local Micro Center, and this will be perfect.
I just use key tags and write or print out labels for the tags. If there is a key needed i ethier put it on the back of the label card or on a second card i slide in behind the first. Each of my systems have 2 usb drives taped to the inside of the case at the bottom, 1 of which has a clone copy of the OS when i first setup the system, with copies of the system drivers, bios, browser etc install files. The second usb drive is a copy of the original install usb, used to setup the system. With windows there is never enough overkill and redundacy, it is not a matter of if but when your OS borks. With the multi boot usb drive making multipule copies is a given considering the failure or simple misplacing of usb drives. Thanks for the video, take care, God bless one and all.
I loved how rufus had this ability, but only at the time of setting up the USB disk. This is a game changer! Being able to expand or whatever the case need be.
Totally awesome vid, thanks!
Yeah. Especially with things like Arch Linux that release a new iso regularly, being able to download the new one and replace it with simple delete/copy/paste rather than flashing the entire drive again is much better.
Rufus does have adventage with windows 11 installation since it can skip all microsoft BS
easy2boot serves MBR, uEFI and of course agFM AND Ventoy in one drive.
BUT to use a PXE Boot Server is much more comfortable after it works
I have a Tupperware box full to the brim with days gone by pen drives from the days of 128MB right up to 256GB and I keep track of them all by wrapping them using masking tape giving them a number and a label. Works for me.
Yeah, I should probably buy a label maker one of these days.
@@CyberCPU yeah, because god forbid you use a piece of paper and a pencil instead :)
@@CyberCPU stay clear of a dymo. They have paper DRM. Where you must buy their paper.
Ventoy really solved my issue of having one USB stick and flashing it with a new ISO file every time I needed to.
I have a 64GB USB 3.0 bootable stick where I'm storing ISOs of Windows 10 22H2, Hiren's Boot CD, and a couple of Linux Distros (mainly Ubuntu, and Linux Mint)
Same here
I thinked about this for YEARS (i swear), but im too lazy and i hadnt time to do this with my Windows installation usbs, BUT...after your video (hehe, not the first time im doing something after YOUR videos) i made that drive (with Win7, Win8.1, Win10, Win11 installations) and im HAPPY because now i need only 1 drive to take with myself, not 4x! Thanks, mate, you made my day - you showed very easy way to do that ❤️
Great minds think alike
I LOVE Ventoy! This is the second obscure but awesome program I have seen you review. Well done, man.
Just wondering what was the other “obscure” program he did a video on?
This is freaking awesome!
Finally I can make just one USB with all the bootable ISOs I need plus the portable programs and installers.
And if I want to add a new ISO or upgrade it, there is no need to get other drive or format an existing one.
I use ventoy for bootable media, but I have transitioned to MicroSD cards for other things. I then store the cards in a small fly organizer (like fly fishing) with each compartment labeled. I then use a spreadsheet to keep track of what I have on each card. Ventoy helped reduce how many I need for random bootable options, but the cards are nice for keeping track of the driver updater and other storage options.
Do you have a 3D printer? Tons of super cool Micro storage to print! HMU if you need a hand.
You could use a label maker. While spreadsheets are great, it's a bit OTT.
i color them with markers then have a sheet of paper and a pdf file. we get creative
Can mbr and gpt installation media used in a single flash drive
I still remember finding Ventoy years ago. That was such a good day. Went from a dozen flash drives to a single 128, now at a tb because I have way too many ISO’s.
😅 that intro is so relatable, usually have to plug in the usb, and check the name to know what’s on them. The ones I have are too small to even write some type of legible label on them.
I really should label my drives. However, many of them change a lot. 😂🤣
I love the mini-tour of what's on each thumb drive. I hope we can get a full tour of each drive, I love hearing "And all the way over here, on THIS drive..."
I couldn't even tell you what's on the majority of those drives. I literally listed out all the ones that I knew the contents of. The other ones, who knows. 😂🤣
Sweet, I've been wanting a way to hold lots of bootables on one 128gb flash drive. I appreciate this video so much.
Whenever I go to a store, I'm always tempted to "buy just one more" thumb-drive, so, like you said, I now have tons of them :) Thanks for the informative video!
Can you give me some
@@guy- You'll need an address for that
Ventoy is definitely useful for maintaining a bootable collection of up-to-date operating systems and tools. Useful for possibly keeping the latest Windows 10 and/or 11 installers, various Linux distros live/installation CDs and system and administration tools. Updating an operating system is as simple as deleting the old version's ISO and putting the new version there instead. Last I used it it did not work with bootable USB drive images and some less-used (ie. BSD, OpenIndiana, Haiku, etc.) images, but with ISO capabilities plus Windows and strong Linux support this is one very powerful tool.
This is cool. I set up a ventoy usb a few months ago; but at the time, couldn't boot windows. So it's nice to know I can just use that now.
I have a label maker and I still think this is the best solution. Especially when you can get 64gb or even 256gb flash drives for so cheap now. I'm definitely going to be trying this out and see if it works well.
I enjoyed this. I have used Ventoy before and forgot I had it. I have an externall SSD (1TB) that I was planning on rebuilding with Ventoy. I wasn't planning to have the entire drive be the ISO storage, I will also load some other stuff on it for troubleshooting when I don't nave to use Ventoy and rebuild first. or I can use it to store any additional user information I need to copy IF I they don't have a cloud sync or some offline storage to backup their profiles. Ventoy is very useful! I liked your video and your style so You sir have earned my respect and a Sub!
Glad it helped.
Thanks for this! 8 flash drives just became one. I tried something like this a few years ago but found it unreliable in booting all the ISOs I needed. Ventoy doesn't have that problem. The only issue so far is the Macrium Reflect recovery ISO throws some NETSH errors when starting up, but still continues to function perfectly.
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Great video one more time..
I'm using Ventoy since day one..
Very useful I just deleting older iso versions and upgrade them with latest..
Usually Linux distros..👍
Thank you for this, been most helpful, used a old 80gb 2,5-inch ssd USB drive for this absolute spot on vid as well thank you
Thanks for this video! Hey just a convenient fyi; when it comes to straight up bit for bit disk cloning, I love the Sabrent Dual Dock. No software, no need to connect to PC (but you can), and just a two button press. Works every time.
The lost art of RTFM would have uncovered the ability to boot with file tree mode enabled by default.
Use the plugson utility to set the option
VTOY_DEFAULT_MENU_MODE to 1 in the global control plugin (or create the resulting json file by hand).
You can even apply legacy or uefi specific settings that would kick in depending on which system you boot ventoy with.
You can Also create your own menus, submenus and assign aliases to your files, but that's much more convoluted imho.
Do a video on this and give me an address to the video so I could watch what you are talking about. I would be VERY INTERESTED!
@@jonnygiantrobot video? Learn the lost art of RTFM.
@@bufordmaddogtannen how nice
@@jonnygiantrobot the developer invested his time to write the documentation. You may as well spend yours to read it.
@@bufordmaddogtannen Read The Fucking Manual?? 🤣🤣I'm so used to used to using "man" on linux, manuals have all the answers, especially on Github.
Thanks for the video, it's exactly the problem I have and have been looking to solve this for the last year , thanks mate 😊
Ventoy is absolutely amazing. Use it here to have not only Windows ISOs but also Linux for when I reinstall on my personal Linux systems.
Pretty useful and easy to use. I found multiple ways in the past to make a multiple boot drive, but they were not as good or easy to make.
A sneaky good way to identify a USB flash is the put colored nail polish on the underside and create a document of correspondence
To label your flash drives, just use a sticky note. Fast, easy label.
Use scissors to cut a small strip from the sticky part of the paper.
I like to write what I want before I cut it off.
This EXACTLY what I'd been looking for for a while now!!!😁
Ventoy is awesome. Thanks to developers.
I use white-out and paint a little stripe on the back and with a rub-a-dub pen write what's on it on that thin stripe of white-out. Hey again, thank for a great, very informative video! Had a problem with my boot file, spent about 24 hrs trying to fix it and ended up taking the CMOS battery out and the problem disappeared, lol. Back in the day when I built and repaired all forms of Windows OS's clear back to Win 95, it's what I'd tell my friends that didn't want to pay me for fixing it.
Ventoy is awesome, was looking for a PXE solution and found Ventoy was just the simple around fix. I do however use a USB M2 SSD rather than a FlashDrive.
i wish i had this tool earlier thanks for showing us this. i installed it right away so worth it
Glad it helped.
@@CyberCPU it def did and i subbed to you right away because of this video
Holyshit...this works...what a great christmas gift..also when and if they come out with the next version of windows..it will go on this usb
Glad it helped.
YOU SIR ARE AMAZING THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO i was getting a headache trying to remeber what this program was. I LOVE THIS so i can have linux/windows so i can have a dual boot system on my steam deck :)
Good video. I don't have as much as you, but I use one thumb drive and keep overwriting to it. I keep all of my ISOs on a ssd with a .txt doc I use as a log describing each ISO and how I last imaged it.... MBR/BIOS, GPT/UEFI, tweaks, bypass hardware requirements, machine it was last installed on, etc. I like your new method.... you're right.. a major timesaver.
Glad it helped.
This video was a great help. Thanks.
Awesome video, I just install ventoy on a larger USB that I have like 256gb and put all the iso that I want in there, and I just label some of my other usb :]
hey thanks i have tried this before but you explained it good i have it working and works great thanks
Wow this is a dream program! thanks for sharing 😄
Your welcome.
I've been using easy2boot for a while, it has a better organization by default, like you mentioned and it works fine for both "old" bios and "new" uefi, windows and linux and other tools. And I think it even uses Ventoy as a backup tool just in case, nifty little tool
so whats better? ventoy or easy2boot?
I've been using e2b for years now. Love it. It works to install say win 7 in uefi or mbr, same with linux and I even have some mac isos that work with it. You do have to do a few things to get the iso and the flash drive from mbr install ready to uefi install ready though. At least in the version I have. Maybe there is a newer version of e2b that doesnt make you change the iso or the flash drive to bounce back and forth between uefi and mbr.
@@polygaryd I think it just works now
@@tomwol remember you used to have to put the iso through imageptn to convert ut to a uefi bootable image and then boot mbr on the e2b flash drive, then select the imageptn converted iso and it will convert the image on the flash drive to boot uefi then reboot into uefi and it will autostart the install and you cant see anything else on the flash drive. Then you can convert it back to mbr and all the other isos are there. My e2b is still like that. It sounds like a lot but it goes quick.
@@polygaryd I have just tested it on my old core2duo laptop and the same ISO (xubuntu) I draganddropped on the pendrive and which works on my other newer machines started just fine.
This is a GEM! -- Mega thanks!
I use YUMI. YUMI can incorporate Ventoy as a sub loaded app, plus YUMI can run Kapersky AV ISO while Ventoy can't.
Interesting.
I have used YUMI for a few years now and it has been rock solid. Check it out.
I have used easy2boot for over 10 years it is also a multiboot menu system that allows you to boot any ISOs from one USB stick. easy2boot allows you to boot from both uefi and legacy boots where Ventoy won't. easy2boot also includes both the Ventoy and agFM/grubfm multiboot menu systems. I use it on a 512G USB I keep on my key ring and never leave home without it.
Ventoy boots UEFI and MBR. The only issue I found is the ISO itself has to match the boot process that you used. So if you boot UEFI the ISO has to be UEFI also.
@@CyberCPU With the easy2boot, it really doesn't matter, it will boot from any ISO, I'm still using both versions of Hiren's the Windows XP and 10 versions and it will boot them without problem. I am not putting down Ventoy, I have used it and will continue to, I just prefer easy2boot. If you haven't tried it you should check it out.
@@CyberCPUHow do you make sure the iso you want on the ventoy drive was MBR or UEFI? Especially if you downloaded them from the internet? Do you need to use something like 7zip to tell? I had several ISO’s on my ventoy and none of them would work, giving me the error “maybe it doesn’t have UEFI drivers?”
Thanks
@@fairlane32 I can't tell you off the top of my head. You would have to use trial and error. Most Windows ISOs support both MBR and UEFI. Other ISOs I'm not sure about. Maybe open the ISO and see if it has a boot folder. Those will be UEFI. However, they might boot MBR too like the Windows ISOs.
@@CyberCPU Thanks. Huh. Interesting. If the windows ISO’s support both then I don’t understand why I couldn’t get Ventoy to boot my ISO’s. If they support both MBR and UEFI. (GPT) which Ventoy setting should I set it to, I wonder? I believe I tried both and neither way would boot. I blame Intel and the UEFI standardizations making this whole process nothing but a guessing game. It should not be this hard.
the rabbit hole goes even further down…
easy2boot incorporates ventoy and agfm/grubfm multiboot menu systems.
easy2boot can be incorporated into ventoy and vice versa. it can also boot hypervisors and can boot to almost anything: legacy,uefi64/uefi32/secure boot.
depending how in depth you go, you can configure it any which way to have the most versatile usb possible.
and the saying goes, three is two, two is one, one is none.
I've done that thanks to Theo Joe. I know nothing about computers but I was able to concoct a bootable pendrive with lots of ISOs on it. And instead of Hiren's Boot I loaded MediCat DVD into it. Works perfect.
The shop I work at uses the colored rectangle stickers you’d write lawn sale prices on for our labeling method
Nice, been looking for something like this for years. Biggest deal is being able to boot to csm as well as uefi.
I love Ventoy!!!! I have a request. Can you do a video on how to make Ventoy Persistent? There are NO English tutorials, and you would be a great person to clarify how to do it. That video will hit the UA-cam algorithm super hard! Thx 🙏🏾
I use the E2B+agFM combo, this can also use Ventoy if you need it; but I use E2B method because it's more mature and works better with MBR and has larger Linux ISO support
Damn this is really useful for me because I just found my old usb drive which I lost months ago which has 256GB.
I have been using ventoy for more then a year. It's been so helpful.
It is nice.
@@CyberCPUI am getting BSOD during the installation of ventoy to USB. Any Suggestions?
@@Shantanu_Dam have you tried a different USB port or a different USB drive?
What's the BSOD stop code?
@@CyberCPU I'll check and let you know shortly.
Nicely done! 😊
Just as a suggestion for labeling (not implying you couldn't think of it or don't do it): You could just get some of that matte white tape or that paper-ish masking tape, put a strip of it on a drive, and just write on it. - I did that for at least one or two drives to not get them confused, even though I don't have that many.
Super idea, and costs almost nothing.
Great presentation!
While this is great "for cheaps", I really recommend CD emulator HW for techies (i.e.: doing some systems every week). The main reason: you can make you "parent" drive read-only or hidden.
I've started with Zalman VE300 (2.5" HDD/SSD), isostick (microSD card) and currently Iodd mini (my 2022 discovery; IODD also have 2.5" Zalman clones).
- Zalman VE300 - bulky due to 2.5", but it was the only option in 2012. Provides LCD and selection switch, where you just select an ISO, and the PC sees it as a optical drive (CD/DVD/BD-ROM). You can choose HDD/ODD/HDD+ODD while powering it, using selection switch.
- isostick - just like a thumbdrive, but selection of ISO has to be done in boot menu or writing a config file (making the parent writable). Shows the virtual CD and the card (parent), but it has a HW RO switch (red=writable). Also very slow (USB2.0 speeds).
- iodd mini - just like the VE300, but based on an m.2 and provides full keypad (also has PIN encryption, but I don't care). Much smaller, the only disappointment is the microUSB 3 interface (just like VE300, and I hate the 3.0 micro).
The reason I prefer these? Simple: what if I can't manage to choose a startup device and it boots into an infected Windows? If it's a boot virus, it might infect my drive. While I don't know about EFI boot viruses, I don't trust any writes to my thumbdrive. Therefore I only trust read-only solutions.
I still use some thumbdrives (because of size....doooh!), but only for linux booting (with script to generate ISO selection). I have control over "copy ISO to RAM" or boot from NFS (network).
PS: these devices can also be used with old computers (from 486 with PCI USB card) by booting a floppy with USB CDROM drivers and having other data (Win3.1/95/98) on these devices.
You can also mount VHDs in the IODD mini, do installs with them every day. Works amazing.
I also use ventoy to create bootable ISO. very handy and usefull.
It is.
Fantastic video on Flash drive-based bootable ISOs! You make learning so much fun! 💝
Liked the sense of humor. 😅Thanks a lot.
By the way, the correct pronunciation is " HEEren's " (and NOT HYrens). Named after the Indian software developer Heeren Mehta. Hee 😃Hee 😄 Hee! 😅
I know, I pronounce it wrong. Even when I know I pronounce it wrong I still end up doing it. 😉
The win 10 2004 for Win 7 was nice to learn also
It runs on Linux too?? Awesome! There hasn't been a usable simple multi-boot usb app for Linux in like ages... Good news, thank you!
There's also a step up (in my opinion), which is an iodd. The iodd is an extarnal hard drive enclosure with some nifty features. You do have to provide your own hard drive, but once added the iodd has an lcd display that you can use to set whichever iso you want to boot to. It uses a blu-ray driver, so it is seen as an optical drive for older computers that don't have usb boot. It also has built-in hardware encryption, should you need it. In addition, when you use it with a 2.5" ssd, the speed to back things up is awesome. It's not as slow as writing to flash storage.
That being said, I'm probably going to make a ventoy USB for a few windows installers. Unfortunately, the one thing I can't do from the iodd is use a provisioning package (because they aren't designed to be detected on optical discs)
I make this a project in my A+ class at the College of New Caledonia (ITAN program) every year, and each class builds on it. We have a super great very now. 32GB (USB that can be reimged). Supports Legacy and UEFI boot.
Other solutions (attention, old school):
- Labeled stickers
- Water proof marker
I liked the info. I have only toyed with Ventoy but find it to be incredibly helpful. Definitely we both would benefit from using a label maker on our USB drives. Some mfgs could help by clearly marking the drives as to size. By the way why not carry the all in one 64G drive? Is it too heavy? Does it bulge too much in your pocket?
OK, so many will frown on this BUT I've found extremely helpful! ... White out marker ... And dots! One dot, two dots, three dots and so on... Problem solved!
Good video Friend! Thank you for sharing it with us!💖👍😎JP
Thanks for the info
So you've discovered Ventoy have you? It's a wonderful multi-boot tool that I've also been using for quite a while too.
I've seen it for years but never tried it. I was looking for a video idea and figured I would give it a shot. I should have tried it years ago.
@@CyberCPU you should now do a video on e2b and then another on the differences of ventoy and e2b. Making sure to focus on the installing of isos in mbr and uefi modes for both softwares.
Awesome, thanks!
I just label them up with car key fobs, but I like the method in your vid.
Good old fashion label writers works a treat !
Thanks so much for the video. Really helpful! Do you have a safe source for getting older Windows 10 builds like 1803 or 1809?
This sounds like a very interesting tool. I'm trying to install Ventoy on an Ubuntu PC.
i was like you , had like 15 usb flash drives until i discovered ventoy. I got a 64gb one full of isos, i might need to buy a 128gb
Ventoy is awesome, I use it on a 128GB Flash Drive with Windows versions, Linux Distros, & Utilities.
NOT my problem - I have a note with every one of my USB Drives... Saves me a lot of time 🙂
Persistence How To would be awesome.
I am so glad I'm not the only one in the world. Thanks for cleaning up my chaos. 😂
I use Ventoy and it's great. I wish that there was a similar simple to use utility that could handle multiple types of boot media included .IMG.
Ventoy lists IMG (as well as some others) as a supported format on their website. Based on how Ventoy is making the booting magic happen I’m sure IMG files work as well as ISOs or better.
How to differentiate your thumb drives. Use Labels peel off. Use some of that white paint gunk that comes with a small brush. When dry scratch names in it.
That's handy, always used Rufus but (as far as I know) it only allows one ISO to boot from.
I don't believe Rufus will do a multi boot. It's what I've always used as well. I will probably be using this more through.
Ventoy is truly a game changer. I would love to know how many years/BIOS iterations ago the method used here could have been used then. Maybe this is UEFI only?
It works on UEFI and MBR. Just boot the system based on whatever bootloader you're wanting to use. So if you want to boot an MBR CD you have to boot the USB by MBR and vice versa.
@@CyberCPU Thanks bud, and thanks for the headsup video...downloading Ventoy now. Like yourself, I have a fair collection of boot USB's etc.
If you look at the flash drives they should all have a little hole where you can put a key label/tab on them I'm not sure sure what they are called stateside but they are like key chain plastic tabs that you can label. I've labeled all my flash drives that way.
you could also solve this with label tags and lanyards, ideally those with a spot for a image in which you could slip in a piece of paper after writing down the details for it
Can't believe I haven't known about this, because I have been thinking of burning both Windows 10, 11 and even Linux ISOs into my thumb drive along with my backup files, without letting Rufus format the entire drive, deleting my backups (I know I can move those to my laptop's drive, but it takes time D:)
Thank you, problem solved.👍
This is very intresting as always. Thanks for the Vid,
The issues i tend to have are driver related. At 11:18 you talk about a program you use for dirvers.
Could i ask what it is please?
Thanks
I label all my usb bootable drives with a label maker. Then i have an electronics organizer that was designed to hold over 20 USB drives. That way all my bootable drives are in one holder/bag/location and they never get misplaced.
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It might have been an idea to go over the Ventoy ISO library?
I have already created a USB stick with ventoy and I have put various operating systems inside it. I can add MEDICAT without deleting the operating systems I have already put in.
Thank you :)
Should do an easy2boot video as it fixes the file tree structure issue you have, uses its own modified version of Ventoy and lets you choose to boot the ISOs on the USB via GPT or MBR on the fly.
great solution
Thanks brother ❤❤❤❤
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You need about 3 drives: One for MBR (old computer BIOS). Two for EFI: One for EFI without Secure boot and one for EFI with Secure Boot. Else you will have to go fiddle with the BIOS/EFI settings to make stuff bootable.
Yeah, since GPT, EFI, and Secure Boot came out it's made this type of thing a right pain in the ass.
Thank you, Sir, 🙏🌺😇
I use MS Word to list all of my ISOs and other bootable media (or other media), then print it out in the size needed for small labels, separate them with a paper cutter, and affix them on to my USB drives with scotch tape.
Cool beans.. So basically it is a EFI emulator or BIOS with EL-Torito capabilities ! The issue with this is that it only works with intel/AMD based systems. I always liked those USB keys that could be switched from being a USB Storage devices (to store the ISOs) and then also had the possibility to look like an actual CD/DVD drive (with a menu on the thumbnail to select the image). So the actual system firmware is just seeing a USB attached CD/DVD !
Wow! That is a good Idea. But actually, as I was watching this video, another Idea just popped into my head. I know this may seem counter intuitive, but what I also think can be done, is buy you some stick on Alphabets from the hardware or hobby shop, and just start sticking letters on the thumb drives starting with A and Working over to the B and then C and so on. Then On a notepad or word program, write what each letter ISO represents. And Presto! You have your thumb drives Organized. I have that same problem. So now I can take your Idea, and mine. Hope this helps. Terry