Yes Jos build a monster driver. Not a monster in real life but the pressure to perform on highest level was intense. This is probably why Max is a machine sometimes. Killer on track for sure
Jos is a very unpleasant person, rude with a history of violence. The fact that Max succeeded in F1 doesn’t make him a decent person, let alone a good father.
I always love how you defend Max Cam, but there's one thing you're not mentioning and that is that young Max was asked whether to live with his dad or with his mom where his sister Victoria was going to live. Sophie and Jos realized very soon his enormous talent and and gave him the choice to pursue his father's and his own dream to become a GOAT. Max often said he sometimes didn't like it when he couldn't go out with his friends and have fun like normal teenagers do, but now in the end he knows why he chose between an average life or being a GOAT. He has always said his dad is his best friend and even now being a grown man, they call each other several times a week. And yes, even Jos himself acknowledges that he's a very tough person with a temper. I always liked Jos as a driver but not as a person, but it was after I met Jos his dad, I realized where that came from. Grandpa Frans was a friendly but also a very harsh man but even though they had fallen apart, I never heard him say one bad word about his son.
Do you think Max actually had a choice in that? Max was forced to do everything Jos told him to since he spoke his first words. It's a miracle that Max never turned to drugs
@@MichaelTarailo-st1nv That's total bs. Max was 10 when his father left and then had the choice asked by his mom whether he wanted to live with his dad or mom. You make it sound as if Jos was the only parent when actually Sophie raised Max practically alone since Jos was in F1 until 2003 when Max was 6.
@@MichaelTarailo-st1nv Netflix viewer? Jos didn't want Max to start as early as he did. Max was the one at a very early age (4) nagging for a gokart. It's a shared dream, and he loves his father. Many have to grow up without a father because many grown man have more important things to do than supporting their kids, drinking, other woman... What a way to judge a successful relation.
Jos sure did a good job making a winning machine out of Max, but he forgot how to be a father. No matter how people spin it, I will never agree with some of the methods used by him. You just don't treat a child like that, let alone your own child. I'm glad that Max also inherited the gentleness (off track) of his mother. He's not a father yet, but the way he treats his girlfriend's daughter with kindness and gentleness is wonderful to see.
@@spider_venom2377 Not literally. Most countries only consider that when you are married to the child's partner and he's once said that he doesn't consider himself to be in that role. Though his feelings might've changed on that. He does very much seem like her stepfather though.
I'm a father too, and I would never try to dominate my daughters with the terror that Jos uses. The way Jos acts is very negative for a boy/teenager/man - Max has put up with so much, especially in his formative years. Max is Dutch, and it's OK to say what you think, even if some thin-skinned people might be offended - it's a national characteristic.
@zafert85 there's probably a handful of people in this world that would become successful with a father like Jos. It's a miracle Max isn't in a gutter with a needle in his arm
Well, two very different reactions. zafer85, so it's all right with Jos's treatment as long as Max is a champion? Michael, I agree with you. Personally I think Max is a potential GOAT, let's see what happens the next yew years,
Indeed, and that also means correcting the mindset. A great part of the human mindset is getting complacent at the moment everything comes to you easily, you then loose focus and start to make mistakes. Anyone who has done even some racing games on the computer is familiar with that chain of events, and it is not easy to get rid of. Jos knew that. But it all sounds more dramatic as it is when it is being told afterward as well. Jos and Max both talked about the same race Pierre Gasly talks about, and Max started on poll I think but dropped the ball due to complacency by making absolutely stupid mistakes. It was the race that resulted in the autobahn gas station story, and finally resulted in Max flipping the switch.
@Karincl7 Bullshit. Every good parent wants their children to be better than they were if possible. Only bad parents want to have their children do worse in life than they ever did.
Jos perfectly understood the mechanic and forces modeling F1 world, and he taught his son everything he’ll need to know in a superb way. The end justifies the means.
Max, Jos and Vermeulen are a unit, Max has respect for his father, Max himself says my father does not lie. Jos is the best training school Max could have wished for. Father and son with the same goal, to get into F1 and become world champion, the rest is bonus. There is no doubt that the father and son's dream has become a great success, Simply Lovely 🧡🇳🇱
So much bull about Max and Jos, Jos gave Max a choice become a racer and do anything for it or live a other life and Jos knew what had to be done for it so did Max. Max knew he would have to be strong and Jos made sure he became strong mentally and physiclly, I would have been proud to have a dad like that.
I’ve always said in Max’s defence that it’s an absolute miracle he’s not a complete raving nut job. We’re not talking borderline child abuse either. This was complete “call social services and get a supervised access only order in place” territory. Being firm but fair, not encouraging slackness or lack of concentration, ensuring that your not inconsiderable financial sacrifice isn’t being squandered by a kid who’s head isn’t in the game, these things are necessary and acceptable for any parent supporting a child in a competitive environment. Physical and mental abuse is not. Every successful F1 driver has a father and thank God, the vast majority are not in any way shape or form like Jos Verstappen.
In 2021, please pay attention to Max saying his setups were compromised due to the power deficit Honda still had. They needed to run less down force as not to get left behind. Making the car harder to drive. AD21 Max sounded resigned after qualifying and again during the race on the radio with GP. Also Monza he came on the radio several times saying he couldn't keep up with the Merc powered McLarens, despite trying to dial in a setup to cope. As it happened he did keep ahead of Lewis but was scuppered by the awful pitstop. Toto Wolff ended up admitting Max won in the 2nd best car. Newey was put on the spot and like everyone before him would never admit they had the second best car. Partly for team moral, but also sponsors and investors.
cameron did you see how the fia doxxed sebastian ogier after the most recent rally for the same reasons they did with max? i think mbs has an agenda against world champions or perhaps he wants to be a modern day john marie ballestre and have a chokehold on every great driver in motor racing
There are many parents like this in sports, and many professional athletes who have had a harsh father... The problem is that not all children reach the top or can mentally handle this pressure from a parent. I don't support it, and it is difficult to say if this type of parenting assisted Max or if he would have been a champion irrespective of Jos' parenting style.
Max and Jos have a great relationship. Jos always told Max he’s free to quit if he didn’t like it anymore but if he wanted to become a F1 driver he had to accept the military discipline. Max never even considered quitting…
It's a classic tale with high level athletes, dads that only show love when the child is winning so the child will unconscious still searching for the love of the father by trying to win. In Max's his case Jos also could be mad even if he won, i think this you see in his way to always be close to perfect and that it's never really enough.
I've always felt Jos was living vicariously through Max, because his F1 career was a dud while he watched his best friend become the greatest at the time, so maybe he wants to prove his greatness through Max, which is a bad thing as a parent to do and force them into lifestyles Post script- Lol @FIA beacuse we talk about MBS today in similar regard to how we used to talk about the race stewards...funny that
I was wondering as well. What I found is Tecky: Used in British slang, means; weird, suspect (sus), crossing a line. 1: Do you ever think about a mans bum? 2: You’re getting tecky now innit.
Well you keep forgetting that they also keeping giving hom the best of everything so pressure or not hr will perform. He is a good driver but as we seen it without it and better strategy he's just not gonna be winning just look at Lewis. So stop acting like he's a senna cos we can all see he will not win this year let alone another championship...
Is it fine as you say Cameron? There is a reason, Max the current most successful driver of the last 4 years, keeps mentioning retirement. If you had to put up with Jos' abuse everyday, you'd think about retirement all the time too. Jos is an abuser. And sadly for Max were is no way he hasn't been negatively psychologically effected by that abuse. Just think if some how Max never got into a good car. It would just be Jos abusing him even more. It's actually tragic.And that loyalty to Jos is based on fear not growth.
Ah now... Jos scored two podiums in his F1 debut season and finished in P10 whereas Max only managed P12 and no podiums. (OK, Jos was driving a championship-winning car, but still. ;)
@@bjs7442 Jos scored more points in his rookie season than in the nine years that followed combined. A rather unusual statistic. But then, he never got near a race-winning car since.
His mom was way better, even his sister was better then his dad. But his dad was the annoying guy that bumpt to every ex f1 driver including Michael to promote his kid
@@Karincl7 As I said before, Jos' rookie season was nothing to be sniffed at. If we apply the current system, he scored points in every race he finished, including two podiums (he didn't get to drive all races of the 1994 season). And what you may find annoying is rather commendable. As they say, "It's all about who you know." Who can blame Jos for exploiting his contacts for the betterment of his son's career?
All said and done and what ever Jos has supposedly 'built to perform on highest level' as one poster has put it, he is wayy too aggressive on track, and like it or not Max fans, it grates a lot of genuine F1 fans, there is no justifaction or condoning. 'Built into him' or otherwise, he lacks balance, patience and composure when faced with anything like a genuine hard one on one race battle, all too often his default is a one dimensional, hot head, force it, approach, attempts at passes that in reality do not exist unless you are disregarding your opponent, the corner said opponent is about to take etc, so called pass attempts that can only result in either the opponent having to take evasive action, run off track or a coming to which we've seen all too often with him. There is no getting away from it - this isnt an overnight or made up scenario, we know it was an in thing with some of the drivers, wasnt it Vettel and Hamilton who were asked if they treat Max differently when rwcing on track, Hamilton said something along the lines of yes, very likely you are going to come together with Max if you do not give him extra space, Vettels response to the question spoke volumes. Max, whilst fast and unrelenting lacks genuine one on one race battle skill and craft, wayyy too forceful, hot head approach, dangerous, the ruinier of his opponents race, and should have been reigned in wayy back, only F1/FIA know why they never really have. I remember one race, Brundle referring to Verstappen's quessionable overly aggressive defense/on track battling with Hamilton as 'Max has got razor blades on his elbows' I was like really? what is this? F1 racing or now wwf, stock car smash up, just too much. Brundle himself made the same reference when Max and norris collided that as he put it 'Max was reverting to his 'early years Max by getting the razor blades on his elbows into the braking zone'. Monza 2021, again, Hamilton in front, there is absolutely no passing opportunity at that spot, the corner where Max decides to force his way past, unless your intention is not to pass but to stop someone, the coming to waa pretty much guarnteed and I believe Max knew that, his sole intention, aim, purpose being to stop Hamilton, knowing he would still be ahead on points if they both did not finish (revisit for yourself). Hungary 2024, Hamilton ahead, Max a good way back, suddenly dive bombs, carrying way too much speed to ever have any chance whatsoever of getting through on the inside, total disregard for the fact his opponent has a corner he is about to take, there was only ever going to be one result. When asked, Rosberg said '...someone needs to tell him there is a corner, which is why Lewis was turning in! Lewis was taking the corner. Max is a flawed and dangerous liabilty, the destroyer of his opponents race, through bad attitude, with a one dimensional, overly aggresiive, hot head, red mist, force it approach, lacking one on one race craft and skill, there's a two fingers up at cha, it wasnt my fault, petulance that is neither acceptable, to be condoned or justified but all too often is for reason known only to those who do it. Been watching F1 for over 40+ years and I am not a fan. I see an overated, artificially elevated and assisted, F1/FIA created Frankenstein, who does not conform to the standard on track terms of fair sporting engagement. Of course, all this is fine for some 'It's only Max', 'I like that Max doesnt give a &hi77', 'I love it when Max gets spicy' and all the other nonsense I've heard and read from some pundits and so called F1 fans - did i say I'm not a fan.
Max hasn’t won since the banned breaking system scandal, his so called greatest seems like a complete hoax. All of his so called championships have a permanent asterisk. *2021 through *2024
@@Cameron-Cc I know you like to play both side like a true F1 pundit haha me without checking I’m sure that win came with at least two other faster cars wrecking, like a George Russell win… checking …
@@Cameron-Cc.. As I assumed many wrecks & a boat race haha I didn’t say he’s not talented, Max’s championships and tag as one of the best ever is an over-statement in my opinion.
Yes Jos build a monster driver. Not a monster in real life but the pressure to perform on highest level was intense. This is probably why Max is a machine sometimes. Killer on track for sure
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Jos is a very unpleasant person, rude with a history of violence. The fact that Max succeeded in F1 doesn’t make him a decent person, let alone a good father.
I always love how you defend Max Cam, but there's one thing you're not mentioning and that is that young Max was asked whether to live with his dad or with his mom where his sister Victoria was going to live. Sophie and Jos realized very soon his enormous talent and and gave him the choice to pursue his father's and his own dream to become a GOAT.
Max often said he sometimes didn't like it when he couldn't go out with his friends and have fun like normal teenagers do, but now in the end he knows why he chose between an average life or being a GOAT. He has always said his dad is his best friend and even now being a grown man, they call each other several times a week.
And yes, even Jos himself acknowledges that he's a very tough person with a temper.
I always liked Jos as a driver but not as a person, but it was after I met Jos his dad, I realized where that came from. Grandpa Frans was a friendly but also a very harsh man but even though they had fallen apart, I never heard him say one bad word about his son.
In Montfort geweest?
Do you think Max actually had a choice in that? Max was forced to do everything Jos told him to since he spoke his first words. It's a miracle that Max never turned to drugs
@@MichaelTarailo-st1nv That's total bs. Max was 10 when his father left and then had the choice asked by his mom whether he wanted to live with his dad or mom.
You make it sound as if Jos was the only parent when actually Sophie raised Max practically alone since Jos was in F1 until 2003 when Max was 6.
@@MichaelTarailo-st1nv
Netflix viewer?
Jos didn't want Max to start as early as he did.
Max was the one at a very early age (4) nagging for a gokart.
It's a shared dream, and he loves his father.
Many have to grow up without a father because many grown man have more important things to do than supporting their kids, drinking, other woman...
What a way to judge a successful relation.
Jos sure did a good job making a winning machine out of Max, but he forgot how to be a father. No matter how people spin it, I will never agree with some of the methods used by him. You just don't treat a child like that, let alone your own child. I'm glad that Max also inherited the gentleness (off track) of his mother. He's not a father yet, but the way he treats his girlfriend's daughter with kindness and gentleness is wonderful to see.
He is literally her stepfather… he stepped up and is being a hell of a father to her
He has the driving skiles from his mother
@@spider_venom2377 Not literally. Most countries only consider that when you are married to the child's partner and he's once said that he doesn't consider himself to be in that role. Though his feelings might've changed on that. He does very much seem like her stepfather though.
I'm a father too, and I would never try to dominate my daughters with the terror that Jos uses.
The way Jos acts is very negative for a boy/teenager/man - Max has put up with so much, especially in his formative years.
Max is Dutch, and it's OK to say what you think, even if some thin-skinned people might be offended - it's a national characteristic.
Max came out more than okay. WTF you on about?
@zafert85 there's probably a handful of people in this world that would become successful with a father like Jos. It's a miracle Max isn't in a gutter with a needle in his arm
Well, two very different reactions.
zafer85, so it's all right with Jos's treatment as long as Max is a champion?
Michael, I agree with you.
Personally I think Max is a potential GOAT, let's see what happens the next yew years,
He's a 3 times world champion in F1, Jep, still has a long way to go.... Lol
The content is good but the real reason we’re here is because he will NEVER sacrifice objective truth at the altar of partisanship for ANY Driver
Let's GOOOO! Big smile on my face reading this. Quite brilliant. :)
Utter horseshit.
Jos prepared Max perfectly for the pressure of being an F1 driver.
Indeed, and that also means correcting the mindset. A great part of the human mindset is getting complacent at the moment everything comes to you easily, you then loose focus and start to make mistakes.
Anyone who has done even some racing games on the computer is familiar with that chain of events, and it is not easy to get rid of. Jos knew that.
But it all sounds more dramatic as it is when it is being told afterward as well. Jos and Max both talked about the same race Pierre Gasly talks about, and Max started on poll I think but dropped the ball due to complacency by making absolutely stupid mistakes. It was the race that resulted in the autobahn gas station story, and finally resulted in Max flipping the switch.
😂😂 he used his son to have succes.
@Karincl7 Bullshit. Every good parent wants their children to be better than they were if possible. Only bad parents want to have their children do worse in life than they ever did.
@@Karincl7 Max wanted to be a racing driver, it wasn’t forced on him.
Jos perfectly understood the mechanic and forces modeling F1 world, and he taught his son everything he’ll need to know in a superb way.
The end justifies the means.
Max, Jos and Vermeulen are a unit, Max has respect for his father, Max himself says my father does not lie.
Jos is the best training school Max could have wished for.
Father and son with the same goal, to get into F1 and become world champion, the rest is bonus.
There is no doubt that the father and son's dream has become a great success, Simply Lovely 🧡🇳🇱
So much bull about Max and Jos, Jos gave Max a choice become a racer and do anything for it or live a other life and Jos knew what had to be done for it so did Max. Max knew he would have to be strong and Jos made sure he became strong mentally and physiclly, I would have been proud to have a dad like that.
I’ve always said in Max’s defence that it’s an absolute miracle he’s not a complete raving nut job. We’re not talking borderline child abuse either. This was complete “call social services and get a supervised access only order in place” territory. Being firm but fair, not encouraging slackness or lack of concentration, ensuring that your not inconsiderable financial sacrifice isn’t being squandered by a kid who’s head isn’t in the game, these things are necessary and acceptable for any parent supporting a child in a competitive environment. Physical and mental abuse is not. Every successful F1 driver has a father and thank God, the vast majority are not in any way shape or form like Jos Verstappen.
In 2021, please pay attention to Max saying his setups were compromised due to the power deficit Honda still had. They needed to run less down force as not to get left behind. Making the car harder to drive.
AD21 Max sounded resigned after qualifying and again during the race on the radio with GP.
Also Monza he came on the radio several times saying he couldn't keep up with the Merc powered McLarens, despite trying to dial in a setup to cope. As it happened he did keep ahead of Lewis but was scuppered by the awful pitstop.
Toto Wolff ended up admitting Max won in the 2nd best car. Newey was put on the spot and like everyone before him would never admit they had the second best car. Partly for team moral, but also sponsors and investors.
cameron did you see how the fia doxxed sebastian ogier after the most recent rally for the same reasons they did with max?
i think mbs has an agenda against world champions or perhaps he wants to be a modern day john marie ballestre and have a chokehold on every great driver in motor racing
Ogier is a winer
There are many parents like this in sports, and many professional athletes who have had a harsh father... The problem is that not all children reach the top or can mentally handle this pressure from a parent. I don't support it, and it is difficult to say if this type of parenting assisted Max or if he would have been a champion irrespective of Jos' parenting style.
Max and Jos have a great relationship. Jos always told Max he’s free to quit if he didn’t like it anymore but if he wanted to become a F1 driver he had to accept the military discipline. Max never even considered quitting…
Just Subscribed finally! Your colorful and factual commentary is a breath of fresh air.
Let's GOOOOOOOOO Patrick
He always said! Nothing can give me more preasure than anyone! By the time he was in tf1 nothing van hurt him
Now you understand why Max like's Marko so much. Same as Jos. Same rage.
It's a classic tale with high level athletes, dads that only show love when the child is winning so the child will unconscious still searching for the love of the father by trying to win. In Max's his case Jos also could be mad even if he won, i think this you see in his way to always be close to perfect and that it's never really enough.
I've always felt Jos was living vicariously through Max, because his F1 career was a dud while he watched his best friend become the greatest at the time, so maybe he wants to prove his greatness through Max, which is a bad thing as a parent to do and force them into lifestyles
Post script- Lol @FIA beacuse we talk about MBS today in similar regard to how we used to talk about the race stewards...funny that
If my father’s parenting style led to me questioning his methods in my private jet in my adulthood, I’d forgive him.
Ufff! Atiq. But supposing it didn't work out. Very tecky, this.
@@Cameron-Cc hindsight is always 20/20, Cam my Amigo 😁
😂😂😂
The ends don’t always justify the means.
Wtf so abuse is ok, i really hope you never become a parent
THERES NO WAY CAM DROPPED ANOTHER VIDEO LIKE THIS
What does techie mean?
I was wondering as well. What I found is
Tecky: Used in British slang, means; weird, suspect (sus), crossing a line.
1: Do you ever think about a mans bum?
2: You’re getting tecky now innit.
“Oh The Humanity!” 🤷🤔
Nothing you said made me ponder its worth.
Just a perfect listen..
Means a lot demon. It wasn't my best work, but we'll only get better.
@@Cameron-Cc There's always room for improvement....ask Jos!
There's nothing new about "pushy" parents. Failures living vicariously through their children are as common as muck.
Morning all 😊
Jos doesn't come to your house and tell you how to deal with your family. Maybe show some respect.
Well you keep forgetting that they also keeping giving hom the best of everything so pressure or not hr will perform. He is a good driver but as we seen it without it and better strategy he's just not gonna be winning just look at Lewis. So stop acting like he's a senna cos we can all see he will not win this year let alone another championship...
Interesting comments.
Max is oppisite of his dad but his dad crossed many lines
Is it fine as you say Cameron? There is a reason, Max the current most successful driver of the last 4 years, keeps mentioning retirement. If you had to put up with Jos' abuse everyday, you'd think about retirement all the time too. Jos is an abuser. And sadly for Max were is no way he hasn't been negatively psychologically effected by that abuse. Just think if some how Max never got into a good car. It would just be Jos abusing him even more. It's actually tragic.And that loyalty to Jos is based on fear not growth.
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THE TOTAL OPPOSITE OF THE sir Lewis. Period.
Max is not following in Jos footsteps because he would have been driving in the bottom half of the fiel as Jos was never higher than 12th.
Ah now... Jos scored two podiums in his F1 debut season and finished in P10 whereas Max only managed P12 and no podiums.
(OK, Jos was driving a championship-winning car, but still. ;)
@@aoife1122 Yes, I missed that . Istand corrected, so it waa downhill from thier lol
@@bjs7442 Jos scored more points in his rookie season than in the nine years that followed combined. A rather unusual statistic. But then, he never got near a race-winning car since.
His mom was way better, even his sister was better then his dad. But his dad was the annoying guy that bumpt to every ex f1 driver including Michael to promote his kid
@@Karincl7 As I said before, Jos' rookie season was nothing to be sniffed at. If we apply the current system, he scored points in every race he finished, including two podiums (he didn't get to drive all races of the 1994 season).
And what you may find annoying is rather commendable. As they say, "It's all about who you know." Who can blame Jos for exploiting his contacts for the betterment of his son's career?
All said and done and what ever Jos has supposedly 'built to perform on highest level' as one poster has put it, he is wayy too aggressive on track, and like it or not Max fans, it grates a lot of genuine F1 fans, there is no justifaction or condoning. 'Built into him' or otherwise, he lacks balance, patience and composure when faced with anything like a genuine hard one on one race battle, all too often his default is a one dimensional, hot head, force it, approach, attempts at passes that in reality do not exist unless you are disregarding your opponent, the corner said opponent is about to take etc, so called pass attempts that can only result in either the opponent having to take evasive action, run off track or a coming to which we've seen all too often with him. There is no getting away from it - this isnt an overnight or made up scenario, we know it was an in thing with some of the drivers, wasnt it Vettel and Hamilton who were asked if they treat Max differently when rwcing on track, Hamilton said something along the lines of yes, very likely you are going to come together with Max if you do not give him extra space, Vettels response to the question spoke volumes.
Max, whilst fast and unrelenting lacks genuine one on one race battle skill and craft, wayyy too forceful, hot head approach, dangerous, the ruinier of his opponents race, and should have been reigned in wayy back, only F1/FIA know why they never really have. I remember one race, Brundle referring to Verstappen's quessionable overly aggressive defense/on track battling with Hamilton as 'Max has got razor blades on his elbows' I was like really? what is this? F1 racing or now wwf, stock car smash up, just too much. Brundle himself made the same reference when Max and norris collided that as he put it 'Max was reverting to his 'early years Max by getting the razor blades on his elbows into the braking zone'.
Monza 2021, again, Hamilton in front, there is absolutely no passing opportunity at that spot, the corner where Max decides to force his way past, unless your intention is not to pass but to stop someone, the coming to waa pretty much guarnteed and I believe Max knew that, his sole intention, aim, purpose being to stop Hamilton, knowing he would still be ahead on points if they both did not finish (revisit for yourself).
Hungary 2024, Hamilton ahead, Max a good way back, suddenly dive bombs, carrying way too much speed to ever have any chance whatsoever of getting through on the inside, total disregard for the fact his opponent has a corner he is about to take, there was only ever going to be one result. When asked, Rosberg said '...someone needs to tell him there is a corner, which is why Lewis was turning in! Lewis was taking the corner.
Max is a flawed and dangerous liabilty, the destroyer of his opponents race, through bad attitude, with a one dimensional, overly aggresiive, hot head, red mist, force it approach, lacking one on one race craft and skill, there's a two fingers up at cha, it wasnt my fault, petulance that is neither acceptable, to be condoned or justified but all too often is for reason known only to those who do it. Been watching F1 for over 40+ years and I am not a fan.
I see an overated, artificially elevated and assisted, F1/FIA created Frankenstein, who does not conform to the standard on track terms of fair sporting engagement.
Of course, all this is fine for some 'It's only Max', 'I like that Max doesnt give a &hi77', 'I love it when Max gets spicy' and all the other nonsense I've heard and read from some pundits and so called F1 fans - did i say I'm not a fan.
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Max hasn’t won since the banned breaking system scandal, his so called greatest seems like a complete hoax. All of his so called championships have a permanent asterisk. *2021 through *2024
Did he have an inertia valve in 2016 at Brazil? 👀
@@Cameron-Cc I know you like to play both side like a true F1 pundit haha me without checking I’m sure that win came with at least two other faster cars wrecking, like a George Russell win… checking …
@@Cameron-Cc.. As I assumed many wrecks & a boat race haha I didn’t say he’s not talented, Max’s championships and tag as one of the best ever is an over-statement in my opinion.