I love how this film kinda explains Amanda's actions later on. After watching Gabriella die she realized that John Kramers methods dont work and some people like Cecilia dont deserve a chance to live.
I couldn't agree more. Amanda had nothing but sympathy for Gabriella, someone she never wanted to be in the games in the first place. To see her die must've shook Amanda to the core.
Cause Amanda also was a drug addict too, she did a lot of terrible things bc of it so she understands why Gabriella participated in the scam, too bad Gabriella died even after she passed her test :/
Amanda seems a lot ‘nicer’ and even kind hearted at times in this film - especially towards Gabriela. I’m actually in the camp of erasing Saw III from canon. I really like this version of Amanda, twisted but compassionate and 100% loyal and devoted to John like a disciple. I want to see her evolve and inherit Jigsaw and apply this morbid morality like her master.
@@darththork99that’s the point of her character, she’s supposed to be mentally ill but still has some humanity deep inside, she was never meant to be a total psycho with no empathy
personally i think in saw 3 she’s so mean because it’s literally the worst day of her life. john is dying and lowkey antagonizing her the whole movie, i also believe she has bpd or something similar that’s making her act out like she hasn’t in the other movies! idk to each their own it just seems to me like she’s scared and trapped so she’s acting out and protecting her “father” :)
Amanda has always been the most interesting character in this franchise, after this film we understand her way of acting in Saw 3 and how she set up her traps, she and Jhon have the best relationship in Saw, she deserved more
I love Amanda and John’s chemistry so much. They have been through so much together and this instalment of the franchise is a perfect way to highlight their relationship ❤ The way he puts his hand on her face reminds me of a father daughter type of relationship, it is truly beautiful. Those people deserved every second of their torture, minus the little boy at the end and I don’t think Gabriela deserved it either.
i lov Amanda I wish she did survive to carry on his legacy just as he had hoped from the very beginning after surviving several traps including the ones in saw 2 she has more than proven several times to do so. The letter that Hoffman sent in saw 3 to Amanda lead to her down fall and to force her hand.
I love Amanda too, it was the main reason I edited her scenes! However, I do believe she was too dependant on John and did not truly believe in the redemption and rebirthing that John believed in, which is why she rigged games. Even in this movie she states that Cecilia doesn't deserve to live, but John corrects her. I'm sad John had to put her in another test but I believe he saw it as essential to her being the perfect one to carry on his legacy.
@@MissLuminosityand i think she was John’s sentimental favorite apprentice. He seemed so heartbroken and fatherly disappointed when Amanda failed the final test.
@@MissLuminositywhile there are valid points made here, it’s important to remember that John is no better than her-his intense moral hypocrisy prevents him from seeing it, but he’s a murderer. And further, Amanda Young, an unstable victim of abuse and eventual torture, was led to follow the leader of a ‘movement’ that, more or less, promised her salvation or purpose. John doesn’t have the qualifications or expertise to work with someone recovering from drug addiction and severe abuse. Becoming absolutely dependent and reliant on him was 100% accurate to those sorts of behaviors, and he was responsible for handling it.
5:33 In actuality is probably the most brutal part of the whole movie. This is a conversation so many millions have had to have, and it hits so hard because it's so relatable. Out of context, this is just a dramatic moment, acted out between two people who've long had respect for each other. I saw Shawnee talk about this scene at a panel. It's obvious that she really loves Tobin.
5:50 honestly this part made me cried😢 when she realized John was dying, Amanda cried just because she loves him as a father😭😭 It was so heartbreaking to see John crying and smiling at the same time because he knows who will wait for him☹️☹️
Saw X really did a good job showing us a softer and more human side of John and Amanda, even tought it was for a bit. As always, Tobin and Shawnee nailed their roles perfectly.
Amanda was partially responsible for the death of Gabriela since she moved Mateo’s game in place of hers and if Gabriela had indeed gone ahead of Mateo she would have survived longer 😊
Amanda said: " I'm not ready to do this without you." to Kramer. But here's the thing, i don't think she's ready ANYTHING with or without ANYBODY. It's pathetic.
@abeltesfaye_ I'm glad they just did some makeup and let it stand on the performances rather than try some distracting deaging effect. I saw Shawnee talk about this live, she said she was happy about it turning out the way it did, and said the budget wouldn't have allowed for much else anyway.
I love how this film kinda explains Amanda's actions later on. After watching Gabriella die she realized that John Kramers methods dont work and some people like Cecilia dont deserve a chance to live.
I couldn't agree more. Amanda had nothing but sympathy for Gabriella, someone she never wanted to be in the games in the first place.
To see her die must've shook Amanda to the core.
Cause Amanda also was a drug addict too, she did a lot of terrible things bc of it so she understands why Gabriella participated in the scam, too bad Gabriella died even after she passed her test :/
Amanda seems a lot ‘nicer’ and even kind hearted at times in this film - especially towards Gabriela. I’m actually in the camp of erasing Saw III from canon. I really like this version of Amanda, twisted but compassionate and 100% loyal and devoted to John like a disciple. I want to see her evolve and inherit Jigsaw and apply this morbid morality like her master.
There's a huge gap in her character development between Saw II and III which had her go from loyal, compassionate apprentice, to extremely unstable.
@@darththork99that’s the point of her character, she’s supposed to be mentally ill but still has some humanity deep inside, she was never meant to be a total psycho with no empathy
this was before saw 2 where her character took a turn for the worse due to her experience as an apprentice
Dude we are not eliminating anything from canon, this is not Halloween movies
personally i think in saw 3 she’s so mean because it’s literally the worst day of her life. john is dying and lowkey antagonizing her the whole movie, i also believe she has bpd or something similar that’s making her act out like she hasn’t in the other movies! idk to each their own it just seems to me like she’s scared and trapped so she’s acting out and protecting her “father” :)
Amanda has always been the most interesting character in this franchise, after this film we understand her way of acting in Saw 3 and how she set up her traps, she and Jhon have the best relationship in Saw, she deserved more
7:18 so sweet how John holds her face
Why did he hold her face
They are like a surrogate father/daughter pair mixed with a bit of master/disciple relationship
@@AnnaliseJeannette just to comfort her
@@AnnaliseJeannetteBECAUSE HE’S PAPA SAW
As if to say I got this covered the plan will work
I love Amanda and John’s chemistry so much. They have been through so much together and this instalment of the franchise is a perfect way to highlight their relationship ❤ The way he puts his hand on her face reminds me of a father daughter type of relationship, it is truly beautiful.
Those people deserved every second of their torture, minus the little boy at the end and I don’t think Gabriela deserved it either.
Amanda young is one of my favourite characters alongside john kramer they carried saw x and are both awesome in the saw movies their in
i lov Amanda I wish she did survive to carry on his legacy just as he had hoped from the very beginning after surviving several traps including the ones in saw 2 she has more than proven several times to do so. The letter that Hoffman sent in saw 3 to Amanda lead to her down fall and to force her hand.
I love Amanda too, it was the main reason I edited her scenes! However, I do believe she was too dependant on John and did not truly believe in the redemption and rebirthing that John believed in, which is why she rigged games. Even in this movie she states that Cecilia doesn't deserve to live, but John corrects her. I'm sad John had to put her in another test but I believe he saw it as essential to her being the perfect one to carry on his legacy.
@@MissLuminosityand i think she was John’s sentimental favorite apprentice. He seemed so heartbroken and fatherly disappointed when Amanda failed the final test.
@@MissLuminositywhile there are valid points made here, it’s important to remember that John is no better than her-his intense moral hypocrisy prevents him from seeing it, but he’s a murderer. And further, Amanda Young, an unstable victim of abuse and eventual torture, was led to follow the leader of a ‘movement’ that, more or less, promised her salvation or purpose. John doesn’t have the qualifications or expertise to work with someone recovering from drug addiction and severe abuse.
Becoming absolutely dependent and reliant on him was 100% accurate to those sorts of behaviors, and he was responsible for handling it.
5:33 In actuality is probably the most brutal part of the whole movie. This is a conversation so many millions have had to have, and it hits so hard because it's so relatable.
Out of context, this is just a dramatic moment, acted out between two people who've long had respect for each other.
I saw Shawnee talk about this scene at a panel. It's obvious that she really loves Tobin.
5:50 honestly this part made me cried😢 when she realized John was dying, Amanda cried just because she loves him as a father😭😭 It was so heartbreaking to see John crying and smiling at the same time because he knows who will wait for him☹️☹️
They should’ve just gave her the same haircut she had in Saw 2. Nonetheless, YASS Queen!
Amanda look older here kinda make sense, She's just quit drug. It's going to take sometimes for her to recover.
Saw X really did a good job showing us a softer and more human side of John and Amanda, even tought it was for a bit.
As always, Tobin and Shawnee nailed their roles perfectly.
REMEMBER ! Saw X is between 1 and 2 . John was too SOFT in Saw X . Amanda was soft too but she was a “ newbie”.
Thanks for making this!
JONH: I'M DYING! I AM DYING! YOU"LL HAVE TO FACE THAT" 😢
This line broke me!
If it wasnt Jonh compassion, Those monsters didnt deserve any chance😡
Shawnee Smith is a goddamn bad ass!!!
You know whats sad mabye if Gabriela went first not mateo shed still be alive cause ceciela would of still been seeing her as of some use
Yet another mistake Amanda made by refusing to listen.
She really could've saved Gabriela, but made her go third and failed.
Ceilia would have killed Gabriella anyway. She was a loose end.
I love her 😍
Bedankt voor de upload 👌
Amanda was partially responsible for the death of Gabriela since she moved Mateo’s game in place of hers and if Gabriela had indeed gone ahead of Mateo she would have survived longer 😊
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Honk honk
Amanda said: " I'm not ready to do this without you." to Kramer. But here's the thing, i don't think she's ready ANYTHING with or without ANYBODY. It's pathetic.
2:58 you cut the best part😢 Can you upload the entire part where he electrocutes Celina? Pls
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Amanda is not that Young anymore.
Amanda and John look older and frail here, than they did in Saw 3 & 4m funny her name is Amanda Young, not so young as she was supposed to be
Saw 3 is almost 20 years old, of course they're going to look older! Thing is, given that it's been almost 20 years, they both still look INCREDIBLE
@abeltesfaye_ I'm glad they just did some makeup and let it stand on the performances rather than try some distracting deaging effect.
I saw Shawnee talk about this live, she said she was happy about it turning out the way it did, and said the budget wouldn't have allowed for much else anyway.