Sorry there're a couple of typos: both crashes were from 2023, not 2022. The most exciting and controversial last lap ever: ua-cam.com/video/C4ZqzohaeTY/v-deo.html
@@hamouraimad7564 Surely there is. This is not a car that is over a second faster on 2nd fastest car, even with Verstappen behind the wheel. And what can we say about Bottas, he is not Max, for sure.
rb19 is not that dominant( Merc in 19/20 have a really dominant car, just see lap at spa, LH going flat out at places where it's normally you don't do that
It's kind of a paradox isn't it? I mean if his quali pace was miles better, it would've been very easy for him to pass KMag or Albon, if he ever met one.
Yeah but still, Max is p10 and gets back to p3 in a matter of laps. The Redbull is capable of overtaking KMag or that fast williams. It was exactly the same with Ham and Bottas. Ham could start p10 and be up there on the podium places quickly, bottas would be stuck all race long and finish p8
I mean the guy was constantly pressured by all the media/rb fans, saying he doesn't deserve the seat, hes bad. etc etc. He just lost confidence in my opinion. Videos like this doesn't help
Rb fans are almost as toxic as the merc fans. Considering how much of a team player he was in 2021, it reinforces the point of how weirdly quickly some fans will abandon drivers.
@@derekbrunette222He was useless for the majority of the 2021 season. People look at Abu Dhabi and assume Checo provided amazing support the whole season when he in reality he barely ever had decent track position in most races to be strategically useful.
I find it easier to believe that Checo doesn't feel as confident in the new car rather than the "lost his touch" thing, we know they're different cars and he has said he didn't feel always confortable with the setups and stuff
@@lasaus6350uhhh you do realize Max was leading the title long before then right? It was pretty solidified once the street tracks were over and he embarrassed Checo in Miami, crushing his confidence. And that was when the car suited Checo more than Max. Once that switched and the car got faster with Checo failing to adapt, he was left for dead with Alonso and Hamilton slapping him around with at times the third quickest cars lol. At this point I’m almost positive you hardcore Perez fans have a combined IQ of 11
I'm sorry, I don't see the difference between the haphazard moves of the past and of the present. The only difference is how the other drivers reacted to them. If norris or grosjean hadn't seen perez, it would've been the same as magnussen and albon, and that was luck. He never had control of the car in those moves, unless you consider locking the fronts and understeering across the track as having control. By that standard, Verstappen's move on leclerc on lap 1 of lvgp was legit, only because leclerc didn't turn into him.
There's a clear difference, in the moves he did in the past he was totally side by side going into the apex whereas the recent ones he only half sent it and hit the drivers in the rear, so it's a lot harder to react to that. You can call all of those dirty but the first ones are better executed
@@elplan3605maybe so with grosjean, but with norris, perez didn't crash into him because norris, who had begun to turn right, stopped turning before perez' front was even alongside his rear, letting him through. Still, in both cases, he locked the fronts and lost too much time. It might look cool but it's not very efficient or clean racing. Only if it was a move for the lead, with not threat from behind, it would at least be efficient.
@@IhnalakoKaina Perez didn't overshoot the corner, he had control of the car. Got the inside line and overtook him. Lando would be in the wrong if he turned in. (Like Russell in Las Vegas)
i personally just think it has to do with media perception and motivation, since he’s gotten older he’s really laid off the aggression he once had, he’s always been good at saving tires and that allowed him to put more stress/flat spotting when he really needed to be aggressive. now he plays a completely passive role of just saving tires and letting strategy do it’s thing when in reality he’s done a much better job going for bursts of speed after saving his tires for a few laps.
I suspect that Perez has always driven cars with more grip at the rear, while RBR has had more grip at the front since 2014, so much so that, while last year's car had more grip at the rear, and this year's car was neutral, it was close to the Max, so I think it's very unfair for people to say he is a bad driver.
@@mickeymike8723Nah, I'd say the Newey just isn't that good, otherwise the car would be friendly to both drivers, just because it doesn't adapt doesn't mean it's bad.
@@gmdascensia Yes, but I think Daniel could drive some front cars, the problem with the Mclaren car is that it only allows u lines, and Ricciardo is only fast doing v lines.
The singapour move on albon is so bad he just straight up plays bumper car, a shame to be witnessed in F1but we can all agree that the pressure to perform was a huge factor for him to take so much risk
no different to what max does on a weekly basis, only difference is people move out the way for him so there's no contact. most recent example: turn 1 vegas gp
@@ok-dy2tzI'm sorry but those are no way near comparable. Both max and Leclerc were side by side going into turn 1 at Vegas and Max had the inside line. They both understeered, I don't think it was at all because Leclerc moved out the way for him. I've not seen Max do anything as bad as that Perez divebomb. He wasn't even 25% alongside him...
@@RJA leclerc didnt understeer. he knew it would be suicide to commit to the corner because he knew max wasnt going to leave him space. you have to take extra caution with max. he's not gonna back out, so if you dont either, theres a high chance of a crash. hamilton proved this in 2021
@@octanev223Max and checo were very close in points in the championship at the time and checo really thought he had a chance at winning the championship as he was performing so well in the season so far and started on pole in miami,but max who started 9th still overtook checo on pure pace and won by 5 seconds and seeing this checo faced reality and has never had great performances since then
@@octanev223 Max started from P9 because he couldn't set a time in Q3 because of a red flag. Checo got pole position. Checo was in a perfect position to win that race, because Red Bull was much quicker than the rest of the field, and his teammate started 8 places behind him. But Max still ended up winning the race by over 5 seconds. People say it broke Checo, because up until then, Checo was actually competitive against Max a few times. He won the previous race (on merit), and Checo felt he was in a battle for the championship. Then in Miami, Max completely dominated Checo.
@@octanev223 Basically after Perez winning Baku and being hailed ''king of the street'', there were some people implying that Perez had an actual shot at WDC. Miami qualifying saw Perez starting from pole with Max starting 9th. Max put on an incedible stint on hards and outpaced perez on mediums and was already in striking distance within 20 rounds. After Max finally pitted Perez had one last chance to defend but Max overtook him effortlesly. For most F1 fans (especialy redbull fans) this is the moment where Max proved to be on a different level from Perez, with Perez's slight hope at a WDC quickly dissappearing. From that point onward I feel like the pressure got to him and he started making mistake after mistake
It’s plain - pressure crack these people. Same thing happened to Gasly, Albon, Perez. Bottas at Mercedes. It’s very relatable to any real life situation where you make stupid mistakes under pressure. Emotions get the best of you. It also doesn’t help that Checo has been in a championship capable winning vehicle for 3 seasons now, which amounts to your own pressure of becoming a world champion boiling over on yourself.
Yeah, I feel like he crumbled aftter Miami when everyone was talking about how Perez was going to "beat Max Verstappen" and then gets overtaken in 30 laps? That got to his head probably.
@@slimstrait780 Since Miami, Perez has been mentally taunted, and has lost his confidence in the car. He was leading the race for more than 90% of the time, and when Max overtook him, his confidence went downhill. Critisism from the press isn't helping, and he can't find the groove that he once had in that RB19. In all truth, he has to "find his confidence" again by himself.
I've been a big fan of Checo since his Sauber days. I think what's happening to him now is similar to what happened in 2013. Drive to Survive newcomers don't realise that Checo was an absolute weapon back in the day, thanks for showing a bit of what he used to be like!
Don’t know about weapon lol but his race craft was defo better than he’s showing this season He’s also getting old as well so one can make the assertion that his reaction times are starting to slip making him worse in close contact
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 He was a weapon, one of the most aggressive, brave and exciting drivers to watch and he'd pull great results from that and tyre wizardry. But his pitfall is clumsy mistakes and they're getting frequent now with age as you say.
@@gabe2968 yeah, I think a big reason was also since he's currently being used as a 2nd driver, rest of the stuff is true but that pressure driving along Max and being expected to be on par at this point seems quite unrealistic considering how fast Max really has gotten and I think it's obvious Red Bull also want the best for Max since he's in his prime.
Nah the 2014 were silly slow lol, arguably the slowest formula of cars since 1998 GP2 we’re competing with them in terms of lap times on certain tracks
from what im seeing in the explanations is the difference between then and now is Perez is expecting other drivers to just let him by as he is in a dominant car thinking "whats the point in fighting" as opposed to in the past where he is in a fight or flight mentality. The only issue is ALL of the attempts present and past he simply doesn't have control of his car, he understeers and has to fight to keep his car on the track at the expense of other drivers who have no room to defend. Perez initially getting the seat at RB was down to his surprising performances in a MERC 2.0 Racing Point and with him being a free agent with alot of fan support. Now? well, its difficult for him because he is directly compared to Max but should be consistently qualifying 2nd and finishing beside Max. I'm afraid he just doesn't cut it with the big boys and will be replaced fast.
One thing to consider as well is a fact that his divebombs were made with much nimbler cars and that he somewhat lost his skill in RedBull when cars became fatter and bigger than ever. Also all of his divebombs were not exactly perfectly executed, since he smoked his tyre and nearly losing it every time when performing this manouver. He managed to make it done, but by far not as smoothly as other experts of such manouvres.
@@bogdanconstantin5911 Yeah but why would they do that. Look at Mercedes. Russell is bitching all year if they are fighting the others or themselfs. Meanwhile takes every chance he can get to attack hamilton if he is behind himself to even downright sell out Hamilton, for example when he changed tires under a SC, which left Hamilton without any protection to get eaten up, compared to them possibly being able to hold their positions by giving DRS to the other driver and working as a team on the used but relatively fresh mediums. Idk which race it actually was but I remember that one very well. Or Leclerc and Sainz who I think had a similar moment in the very same race and really all the time are just fighting one another. While rivalry can be good we know it can be bad as well and putting a talented and hot headede young driver next to their established Champion really doesnt seem like the greatest idea. Mercedes kinda has no choice as they at some point need a new number 1 with Hamilton not getting any younger, but Verstappen will surely race another 5 years at least and likely all of them for RB so they really dont have to worry about that right now. Perez does everything RB needs him to do, which is right now secure P2 in the drivers championship and of course thus the constructors as well. And honestly I think most people expect Perez to be doing better and even his relatively poor performance allowed him to take P2 behind Max. And look at the rest of the Field. Russell and Leclerc for example massively underperformed this year, yet noone is talking about them being replaced.
@@LunnarisLP Russell I agree, he's been inconsistent but arguably the best they can get (unless they could somehow convince Albon idk). Leclerc however has been immensely unlucky in at least 4 races so far: Bahrain, Spain, COTA, and Brazil. Car reliability aside he's still the third best driver in the second best car (when it reaches the finish line, lol).
They sit much flatter and have stiffer front suspension and I think the FIA actually intended for the rules to discourage divebombing. It sucks because racing now is really about DRS and looking after tyres. I hated seeing Max run dudes off with his crazy divebombs but dammit I miss the hard racing and drama that use to come with that. F1 has never been so sanitised.
2012 Japan was the first race I ever saw! To bad checo beach his car some laps later. Awesome your doing this recollections of checo, it really shows your knowledge of the sport. Keep up the good work!
I think its because he was always very concious and 2nd guessing on braking in the oversteery redbull. Back then he had a car that he can trust on the brakes so he can pull those off very confidently, then when he got the oversteery car, which he isnt comfortable in, he keeps on misjudging it. But now it looks like checo finally understand how to drive an oversteery car, which is why hes very close with max especially in qualis since mexico (vegas is an outlier since he got screwed by strat), it should be improved much by now like we can see in vegas and brazil he can cut through the field very neatly. But in defending he still has that hesitation like in brazil. Like because now he know he had to drive the redbull by early braking, he thought alonso can divebomb him in turn 1 so then he goes too defensive. Im happy for checo to see him finally understand how to drive an oversteery car, just now i wish he can race the oversteery car a bit more crafty, i think its just a matter of time
I’m sorry but none of the moves in the first part of the video were clean. They all involved him clearly locking up and sometimes being very lucky to not hit others.
I think we need to be a bit more understanding. The RB19 has anti-squat and dive features which makes the car difficult to feel, this has hurt perez's confidence -> leading to second guessing himself and confidence issues -> crashes and outbreaking or breaking to early. In addition it also means he is struggling to find the limit. I feel its less the car being suited to max and moreso, Max is better at coping (he himself has lost the car at times). There are certain dominant cars that some drivers find abhorrent to drive, I think one of the dominant Williams under Mansell he really didn't like the car.
IIRC it wasn’t Mansell who didn’t like the car but Prost, Prost said there was no feeling in the car due to all of the gizmos the FW15-C so the car wasn’t as sensitive and you couldn’t feel when the car was on the limit so when it went there was no recovering This is partially the reason the FW-16 to begin was such a troublesome car as it had the same concepts of the 15 but without the gizmos to stabilise ride height and provide a stable aerodynamic platform leading the car to stalling often and having a propensity to snap oversteer and bottom out
Let's add to this that these ground effect cars are even bigger and heavier. They look so much lazier under braking and rotation than the already large and heavy (by F1 standards) previous generation. Anytime I see clips from 2017-2021 I'm astounded by just how nimble those cars look compared to the '22-'23 cars when I remember them being so much clumsier. Of course divebombing isn't going to work nearly as well when you're lugging around another 50kg. It's not just Perez, I feel like a lot of drivers stopped taking as many risks with divebombs.
@@RaZor921 the funniest thing is people called the 2017-2021 cars boats due to its weight and length of car compared to the mid 2000s cars That should tell you how bad these current cars are in low speeds lol These cars might as well be sea carriers lol
In %, it is the most dominant right now, slighty in front of the McLaren MP4/4. Despite that, it's important to note that the only race that McLaren lost was due to a mistake from Ayrton and McLaren, that year, was the fastest car in every track. Red Bull, instead, at Singapore wasn't that great
@@kristianangeloni Both Senna and Prost where miles ahead of the field in quali- and racepace. The RB seems to be only just faster then the other cars, but one of the RB's has Verstappen in it. He is the big difference maker there.....
@@hound83 Yeah, Max + RB19 is one of the best combos ever and showed us what a champ can do with a dominant car and just a 'good' - and not at his best - driver as a team mate. Here in Italy there are a lot of people who understimates Max efforts in this season because of how dominant the RB19 is (exactly like they did with Hamilton, but with Schumacher they were fine), but the fact is that you can't be dominant with the best car, and the best car not always is dominant with every driver. Max's driving style is something that requires a specific and extreme setup for perform at the best, and with that setup... Checo simply can't drive. Afterall, that's the difference between a monster and a good driver. Btw, I think that Senna or Prost would've done the same in 1988, but the fact that they were pushing each other to the limit leaded to some DNF (with the Monza one that interrupted the perfect season). If we watch the results of the MP4/4, they are insane. McLaren never crossed the line under the 6th place, with Prost that -except for the DNF- was always in the first two positions.
Checo is not worse than Webber. Webber didn't win a single race in 2013 while his teammate won 13 races, 9 race wins in a row. He was angry about multi 21 do you remember? In 2011 he just won the last race of the season in Brazil while his teammate won 11 races. On both seasons webber couldn't even fight for second in the championship.
The major issue is that the new cars have softer suspension, to negate the purposing effects. While that helps, it filters out a lot of the tactile feedback of the car, making it feel "less confident". A driver that spends a lot of time in simulators, like Verstappen, Norris or Russel, can drive the car without relying on tactile feedback, and can perform well in a "dull" car. While old school drivers that dislike the sim, like Perez and Hamilton, don't have the necessary confidence to take the car to the limit.
I have a feeling know why his divebombs don’t work anymore, in the old clips he does nearly send it in the gravel, locks up and the cars are lighter AND smaller. He’s probably past his prime at this point, he’s been in the sport a good while now too. And he is a tire whisperer which doesn’t co exist with sending it up the Inside 40 meters back barely keeping it on the black stuff while smokescreening the driver next to you. While his 23 was not the best, the new cars being massive and his time in the sport is a good reason for this.
@@PauliesWalnuts Hamilton looks washed as well. He hasn't competed for a race win much in the last 2 years. Losing the 21 title seemed to take its toll on him. His career is much like Jimmie Johnson in Nascar. Won multiple titles when he had the dominant car. Seemed to get old overnight, went from winning races and titles to not competing for wins at all.
Alot has to do with the way the new cars generate downforce, the old concept was front and bargeboard heavy with the downforce therefore at low speed their was more downforce available. The new regulations are relaying on the floor, but when the car is at low speed the car is higher from the ground because the downforce is not as high as at 100/200 km/h. So therefore divebombs are really difficult to to because the downforce is retracting so fast
"Well, a lot of people thought that it would be two Red Bulls disappearing off into the, uh, setting sun here at Suzuka. Not the case at the moment. One's leading. One's down in 22nd..." foreshadowing
They addressed this exact narrative during the Vegas buildup and everyone agreed that divebombs just aren't part of a reasonable race strategy any more. The cars are built different. They also used Danny Ricc as a great case study since he used to be known for "sending it". This is probably more why Perez has ostensibly fallen off. He doesn't feel at one with the car any more. Saying that he just doesn't dive bomb any more therefore bad is such a surface level take.
Yes, these were entirely Checo’s mistakes, not only because of misjudgment but also lack of confidence and mental issues due to pressure 😞 Considering he is driving a car not suited for him, his engineering and mechanics being not equally experienced as the ones working for Max and some unfortunate strategies this season, that made Checo look even worse 😅 I mean, it was not his best season, he made mistakes but he reached the minimum objective getting 2nd 🥈 place, making history for RB
Never had Redbull won a 1,2 in drivers championship, here comes Checo, pulls it off, and people like you make videos about him not having skills. You do it then, why no one else could but he could? It's a car designed for one person, and he learned how to fight it and make it work, even though it is not made to his liking. It's like trying tonolay sports on shoes that are not your size, but in this case can get you killed, and he did anyways and won 2nd. He is nothing but a legend, he is the reason why Verstappen beat Hamilton in his first championship and now secured the best result ever for Redbull. Total legend
I guess his driving style doesn't go with the settings of RB19 (and perhaps 18 as well). I believe he has publicly spoken it before. I am not saying he performed well, but i think its just related. The car is fast. Yet it doesn't give him enough confidence, thus undermining his overall performance.
It’s easy when the pressure is off, there are not huge expectations and your team mate isn’t on top of his game and the grid. At RB those things changed, even Max driving changes when those things change, he nails the quail but his races become very “messy” when the field catch up.
I still believe that if Mercedes got Checo for 2021 it would have been a 3-way title battle considering the way Checo was driving the RacingPoint in 2020 which was essentially the 2019 Merc. Impossible scenario tho since Merc were not going to keep George on the sidelines any longer, but fun to think about since the Merc and Redbull are fundamentally different cars.
Can believe he left the door open TWICE at Las Vegas GP. All he had to do was take the inside line and brake a tad later (or slower) to push Leclerc out. Verstappen did it when he overtook Leclerc for the lead.
they say that that RB suspension setup...the anti squat thing that keep the floor level under load screws up the 'feeling' under braking with the car. I guess that could play a big part in misjudging situations when he has to drive and brake differently from doing lap times.
@@davidboyer7706 Leclerc's divebomb last race looked way better than any of Perez's in this clip. Leclerc maintained control throughout the maneuver without locking up his tires or anything
surely the key difference really is that he's finally in a car where the _setup_ of the car to get competitive isn't one he's suited to in other words, i think he'd be making these same types of moves in the RB if only verstappen wasn't dominating the setup direction of the car
Everyone's claiming the RB18 and 19 are oversteery cars to suit Max, meanwhile Checo understeers hard af in Japan and the car is still not suited to him? Thought he liked understeery cars? All the old examples (anecdotal, but still), show him locking up and almost losing control. The two recent examples he was always in control, just dived like a kid playing F1 with damage off.
@@bogdanconstantin5911 i'm not just talking about an oversteer or understeery balance but the _entire_ way the car behaves and needs to be handled, like the way you approach a corner, how you apply the brakes, how you traverse mid-corner, etc. just because he likes the general tendency of the car to understeer doesn't mean he is in tune with the handling also, not just the rb 18 and 19. every car setup direction red bull have taken since verstappen joined the team has been based largely on verstappen's feedback because he's able to get the car to go quicker
I think the video is missing the part where the cars drastically changed. The current generation are super stiff and unforgiving, and I think he is still struggling with that. Verstappen seems to be much better understanding these changes and adjusting, while Checo fails to rotate the car in time and lunge. Driving on a knive's edge has been mentioned a lot in detailed videos about how the current cars are so much different. This would mean, that if he will regain his trust in the car, he is still the same checo, just unable to handle the car properly (or simply needs more time to adjust).
Checo isn't confident with RB cars because he prefers an understeer-y car, a complete opposite of what he currently drives, an immense oversteer but with immense sharp front. That makes the car, like, unpredictable to him because one wrong move on going to the limit means spinning, taking off the track and into the barriers. Understeery car on the other hand, based on what I have observed on the cams on Checo, he can definitely predict where the car is when understeering and deal with it immediately.
That second seat is cursed! I wonder what could be if Piastri took that seat. Young drive, tons of skill, doesn’t seem to let the pressures of F1 get to him. Could be an awesome contender for second seat.
The seat isn't cursed, Max just set the bar too high. Also Red Bull wants Norris not Piastri, and Webber as his agent would probably not let him join Red Bull without a preferential treatment and, as long as Max is there, that isn't going to happen. Although I agree, the rookie is a terrific driver and world champion material for sure.
@@LubomirGeorgiev I suppose that’s true…what else does RB need from checo? Obviously max can get the job done by himself and doesn’t need any ‘team’ help. They are 1-2 in drivers and secured the constructors.
I can't say that I can recall or have the recordings of every Perez overtake, so I ask, is there and selection or confirmation bias at play here? That is, we all expect Perez's form to be worse in the present relative to the past, so could the footage or the analysis of be selected to reflect that?
From RB or from himself? He's the one referring to himself as title contender etc each season and challenging max. Dude is the only one in the team expecting that level. All RB want is a decent driver bringing the 2nd fastest car home in p6-p3 each race
Here’s how I see this, yes he used to do these crazy overtakes, but the driving style of these cars is completely different than it was in 2011, hell is was different in 2013, and 2017 the cars changed so much in 13 or so years, especially now. These cars are meant to be driven smoothly because of the ground effect era carss
We can't discount the fact that a Fast Car doesn't mean a Stable car. This RB is as fast as it is oversteery and constantly on the limit (as many have pointed, similar to the dominant Ferraris of the early 00s). Max has obviously found how to tame it (both in setup and in handling) in ways he really enjoys and feels confident about. Then he can relax and take the best decisions because he knows he has blistering pace and great racecraft in his favor. Perez didn't, and all those great moments in the video seem out of character now. Red Bull knows that and it also knows that ANY driver on the grid would struggle for at least a full year before even starting to get grips with this car in a way that would be better than Perez with his experience now. So they don't think a swap would be effective anyway. He got his p2(thanks in great part to the fact that no single team had any consistency throughout the season, with McLaren and Aston Martin being the worst in going up incredibly and down catastrophically in different moments of the season) and that's it for now
You seriously believe that Alonso would not dominate this car after the second race? He dominated the horrible 2012 Ferrari and almost won the championship that year.
@@alejandroperez5368, I think Fernando would get used to the car to an extent a lot quicker than many people believe. The only problem is that Fernando's driving style is centered around understeer.
That argument would be correct if Perez had been bad since the introduction of the car. Except that's not the case. Perez proved that he can drive the car quite masterfully for a few races, but then after Miami he just lost his confidence. The Redbull car finished 30 seconds ahead in the first race of the season, just like it did in Spain. Difference was in the first race Perez was P2, in Spain he was far behind in P4 after a bad qualifying. It's not like Max discovered how to drive it, rather that Perez forgot to.
I think the problem is with the size and weight of the car. The cars used to be much smaller and lighter therefore allowing for easier control and awareness when sending a massive divebomb. I think the same goes with Ricciardo who used to be a god with the brakes but now with the new cars he just isn't as good. He probably just needs some time to adapt unlike Max who gets used to new cars very easily.
Stop saying "most dominant car ever" because it isn't. Not even close. The British channel THE RACE made a video about this with actual data. The Mercedes W11 was the most dominant car in recent years (biggest gap to competition). Is it ONE of the more dominant cars? Yes. But with Verstappen they have a driver that leaves no points on the table, the pit crew is on fire, strategy team is on fire, the team boss knows what he's doing .. all puzzle pieces fit together.
RB19 is fast at the cost of rear stability which is what Max exactly wanted, maximum agility and massive oversteer make the car a total beast that is really hard to tame, only the best of the best can. Unfortunately for Checo, he's decent but not The best, and the car is designed for The best.
I wonder if its fear/pressure from RB that is getting to him. He's clearly capable but something (RB higher ups) are getting to him and I think the fear of losing his seat is eating him up rather than it encouraging him to not miss a step. I don't think he has to 100% be a Max clone, but some of Max should shed off on him.
Just because it’s been the most dominant car in Max’s hands doesn’t mean it’ll be the same for Checo. Despite being the same chassis, cars are set up differently for each driver. And if the main handling characteristics of the chassis is geared towards your #1 driver preferences, it might not fair so well for driver #2. This is similar to Ricciardo tenure with McLaren. Norris could get performance out of the car and Ricciardo couldn’t
One of the main reasons for this was because the car was oversteer, which suited max’s driving style, whereas check liked a car that was more understory, because he likes to have more control over the car, especially over the front end of the car, but the rb19 didn’t suit him. That is why check looked horrible in the rb19 and max looked and was dominant in the same car.
That's not the most dominant car by far. There were cars much more dominant than the opposition. Just because max has been the most consistent driver ever the car is winning so much. I would argue the 2014 Mercedes and the 1989 mclaren are much more dominant. Just because of how much they were faster that the other cars. Max wins by a few seconds over a whole race. This is like 1-2 tenths faster every lap. I remember the 2014 Mercedes just smoking these guys by over 30 seconds every race. They didn't win when things went wrong for both cars
In terms of percentages it will be the most dominant car ever and Max seldom has had to push for most of his wins because the only other car that can challenge him was languishing down in the midfield after another terrible qualifying Why am I going to abuse the tires and stress the engine when I don’t need to, as Prost said I want to win a race at the slowest possible speed, this is often shown with Max when he put his fastest laps in and goes instantly 1-1.5 seconds faster you have to ask how much was he pushing before The difference is with Mercedes you had 2 drivers who wasn’t messing up Quali and were racing head to head. At that point the margins are finer and you’re gonna be pushing each other more leading to bigger gaps to the field
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 this is not true at all. In half of the races max has been somewhat pushed and hasn't let of the gas. The mercs were beating these guys by 1 second in qualy sometimes. Y'all just underestimate how good max has been. I've been watching since 2008 and I've never seen someone so consistent. Even when vettel was dominating in 2011 and 13 it wasn't like that. Qualifying is the best metric for a fast car and driver. There have been much better cars in qualy than the rb19. What makes great drivers is the race. Great example is the late 90s where schumi had a much slower car and wasnt on pole usually but still challenged for the championship and won many races because he is a better driver. The best drivers win the races providing their car is somewhat competitive. You mentioned prost. Senna is insanely overrated because he was a great qualifier. Prost is better than him because he is better in races. That's similar to max now. Look up all the best drivers and they have more wins than poles. If max was driving for Ferrari or Mercedes and someone else that wasn't as good as him was in the rb seat he still would've won the championship. The car is the best but it's not nearly as good as people make it out to be. Checo isn't a bad driver at all. Max is just that good
@@whogivesafack-ch3lj And I’ve been watching F1 since 2003 and seriously since 2005 I am not trying to downplay Max talent at all I think he’s an extremely talented driver or of the best talents to ever grace the field of formula 1 However that RB19 in race spec is as dominant as it gets as a car, the only thing the RB19 somewhat struggles in is Quali due to how its suspension is set up however Red bull were still easily taking poles for the most part (it was the class of the field) it’s closed up since due to them literally not have updated the car in nearly 5months now but teams that could get close-ish to it can’t hold a candle to it in race day conditions The 90s example of MSC I don’t like using even though the Michael was the best driver in the sport at the time car reliability affected results a lot more than it does today affecting how championship outcomes ended up it was a little easier to compete with not the best car for the championship than it is today Senna I wouldn’t say he’s overrated, did his death improve how people think of him yes but as a driver the most part he’s fairly rated rather than saying Senna is overrated Prost is simply the most underrated driver in f1 history as his name should be mentioned in places it rarely is often mentioned lol if Max was driving the Ferrari or Mercedes and let’s say Lando Norris was driving the RB, Red bull will still win that WDC/WCC nothing is stopping RB winning the WDC this year how I know this as bad a Perez has been this year he has still secured p2 in the championship so if I put a driver better than Perez in the RB instead of Max you’re telling me they’re gonna do worse than Perez?? And never forget Checo was a pay driver who got his break in McLaren flopped and was sent back to the midfield for most of his career he was never a world beater
It is known that Perez doent like a oversteering car. Since the post 2022 cars are heavier, and have a far harder time under traction it probably is down to the current era of cars he cant get along with. pre 2022 cars were also a lot more stable under braking and less likely to lock up.
Hes a good driver, the rb19 is a car that really doesnt like to understeer and checo's driving style of preffering understeery cars make it worse, and also he haslost confidence due to huge amounts of pressure
I find it hilarious how people keep saying that the RB19 is the most dominant car. How do people have such short memories, the Mercedes W06 and W07 were very clearly more dominant. Winning races by FAR larger margins and winning qualifying regularly more than 1 second clear of the field. The RB19 nor the RB18 have done that. The RB19 is only into the 2nd year of the current regulations, and it's been beaten multiple times in qualifying, and most qualifying sessions have been quite close. Go look at what was happening with Mercedes in the similar timeline in their era. Checo clearly is lacking with this car as Verstappen clearly shows he can extract more/all of its performance. The RB19 and Verstappen ARE possibly the most dominant combination of Driver and Car, but the Mercedes era of car dominance FAR surpasses the current Red Bull.
How is nobody talking about how hard the car is to drive? I think every teammate has complained about the car being too pointy. Then people boast the Bottas q3 stat, but doesnt that show that the mercedes was easy to drive? We're not going to pretend Bottas is even a tenth of Lewis caliber right? And he gave him trouble a couple of times... The fact that he hasnt outright beaten Zhou (rookie btw) just shows that the Mercedes was easy to drivr and the RB is not.
Even Max complained a few years back about the car being difficult to drive and not liking the way it was designed. But he adapted to it and improved, now he's unstoppable.
He hasn't lost his touch. You fail to mention two highly rated drivers failed miserably driving that car against Max. The pressure is ridiculous at RB. Whether it's Marko saying every week how much of a dissapointment you are, praising Max and reassuring his #1 status, and many more, Perez went through immense pressure and still managed to finish 2nd in the championship. At least he did a better job than Albon, Gasly and Ricciardo. Drivers don't ''lose their touch'' or forget how to drive from one year to another. The team simply won't listen to him when it comes to car development, so he's always in disadvantage.
Maybe Checo’s only hope of regaining some confidence is to return to the midfield with a teammate he can match. Or maybe he’s a driver who just can’t fully adapt to driving the heavier and ultra-stiff cars of the current formula.
Not the most dominant car, there are faster, more dominant against the rest if you wanna be specific and say just car.... Now if you say most dominant car+driver yes... Remember Mercedes was lapping cars that were 6th on the grid ... Thats how fast that car was..
His qualifying needs work he seemed off right before we hit the mid season mark. I believe he will do way better next season if he is able to adapt to the car better. He pace looks like he’s in an alpha tauri sometimes.
"the most dominant car ever" Ehmmm. Yes, RB is dominant now but have you looked at the Mercedes car of the previous F1 era? 🤔 For me this RB is dominant, but it seems more dominant because the rest of the teams are lost and the car really fits Verstappen driving style
They say the car is build for max driving style, but this doesn’t make any sense, the car is fast anyways, it is checo that can’t push it to the limit. Drives HAVE to adapt themselves to the car
Boss, the cars are so much more heavier and difficult to manoeuvre now. Make a video on how others are doing it, you will hardly find anyone. The 2023 las vegas grand prix, max threw in a dive bomb on russel and they had a collision too… its not as easy as you editing a few clips and posting it…
Perhaps it's harder to execute these moves properly with these wider, heavier cars? I agree with earlier comments that some of these successful moves in the past could have ended differently.
To me the only real difference is that the defending car is able to brake later in this years cars and thus cover it off easier. All of the moves from pre Red Bull in this video Perez was almost out of control.
He was always clumsy. The examples you are giving of dive bombs is just him doing very late uncontrolled braking while the other driver is losing time because there is a dumb smoky wall in the middle of the corner
@@keonxd8918 The Merc‘s in 2014/16 and 20 were all FACTUALLY more dominant than this years RB in terms of average quali/race pace advantage over the 2nd fastest car and you could go further back with the F2004/2, some of the 80/90‘s McLaren cars and Williams cars. The RB19 isn‘t even top 5 most dominant cars ever. Max and the whole operational RB team at the track is simply the greatest team/driver pairing that ever existed in this sport. The fact that Hamilton/Mercedes hold 0 seasonal records in F1 is almost comical given their insane car dominance from 14-21.
@@Reaz399Bullshit. Max looks better than he really is because his teammates suck and his team is perfect. The likes of Hamilton, Schumacher and Senna never had such luxury.
Max in the RB19 is the most dominant F1 car ever. Not the F1 car itself. It is very hard to drive, as we have seen from Perez, a great driver himself, Albon and Gasly, both top level drivers too, as we can see their performances the last 2 years. Max is just on another level, and takes the car to another level. this is the fact.
it's the fastest, not the most dominant if you're talking about the most dominant car ever, that would be the mclaren mp4/4 back in 1988 (93.7% wr), but if the redbulls win the abu dabhi gp, it will become the most dominant car ever within a season (95% wr)
@@44Andre dunno which car merc had in 2016.. but they won nearly all races in that year... besides a crash (spain max his first win) and an engine failure from the lead.. that was 19 out of 21 I see.. and the 2 races they lost they were by far the quickest too. thats a more dominant car probably than the RB19.. cause you have win rate (comparable).. but podium rate it was 1-2s all year for merc. the qualifying gap to the field was probably quite ridiculous too btw.
Nope fastest car ever sure but not most dominant car ever The most dominant cars would be either the 1988 McLaren 1992 Williams 2002 Ferrari 2016 Mercedes 2023 RB
And people where arguing with me early this year when checo was a few points away from max, that he was on the same level. Damn i wish i can find that video....
Right here is a picture-perfect side by side example of how this current generation of behemoth Sherman tanks that they're racing in formula 1 are influencing driving styles. Don't get me wrong, you can still sneak up the inside for gaps, but it just takes a whole lot more to stop these things now. And I imagine you have less control under braking as well. One of the rumors about the next major rules overhaul in 2026 is that they intend to make the cars smaller and lighter again. I hope so. F1 cars are meant to be nimble; like, it's part of their DNA... Just think back to the little cigar chassis that people like Jim Clark raced. When I first started following the sport almost 20 years ago, one of my favorite aspects was analyzing driving styles. In the days before they were lugging around batteries & hybrid equipment, when they were still refueling, just a casual/lay follower could track different lines that different drivers were taking through iconic corners, simply with the naked eye. You could just look directly at your non-HD television and go "oh, he likes a lot of oversteer and a planted front end, whereas this one likes a 50/50 balance and drives like he's on rails. Oh, this guy likes to brake a lot later than everyone else", etc. When was the last time you can remember a handful of the field deliberately taking radically different lines around a course for qualifying? Well now that they're racing around these giant limousines on one-dimensional street circuits, it's more or less funneling everybody into one, singular [understeer-y] driving style kinda. It's pretty sad.
Sorry there're a couple of typos: both crashes were from 2023, not 2022.
The most exciting and controversial last lap ever: ua-cam.com/video/C4ZqzohaeTY/v-deo.html
There's also a typo in: most dominant F1 car "ever"
@@deerlord2363 No there isn't.
@@hamouraimad7564 Surely there is. This is not a car that is over a second faster on 2nd fastest car, even with Verstappen behind the wheel. And what can we say about Bottas, he is not Max, for sure.
rb19 is not that dominant(
Merc in 19/20 have a really dominant car, just see lap at spa, LH going flat out at places where it's normally you don't do that
I think Perez just don't suit the car, fr after new regulations Perez drop massively
Checo needs to massively improve his qualifying performance. Period. That way he doesn't need to overtake KMag or Albono or anyone for that matter.
It's kind of a paradox isn't it? I mean if his quali pace was miles better, it would've been very easy for him to pass KMag or Albon, if he ever met one.
Yeah but still, Max is p10 and gets back to p3 in a matter of laps. The Redbull is capable of overtaking KMag or that fast williams. It was exactly the same with Ham and Bottas. Ham could start p10 and be up there on the podium places quickly, bottas would be stuck all race long and finish p8
@@octavelapize6657the difference between world champions and good drivers
@@octavelapize6657 At least Bottas qualifies extremely well, that's the difference between him and Perez.
@@FINtr0ll99 Yes and it feels like he committed less mistakes, but maybe my memory isn't perfect and biased by the fact that I like Bottas a lot
in 2012 at Suzuka he did exactly the same move again on Lewis like 15 laps later, except Lewis covered it & he ended up in the gravel & retired
Exactly.
I first thought it was a joke and he was going to show this exact clip
ua-cam.com/video/yFiP8SgmMLY/v-deo.html
the man just doesn't have a plan b
The RB looks tight as hell in the corner. Good luck dive bombing when you’re car wants to plows in a straight line.
I mean the guy was constantly pressured by all the media/rb fans, saying he doesn't deserve the seat, hes bad. etc etc. He just lost confidence in my opinion. Videos like this doesn't help
Rb fans are almost as toxic as the merc fans. Considering how much of a team player he was in 2021, it reinforces the point of how weirdly quickly some fans will abandon drivers.
but are they wrong
Moves like these don't help either. Straight up playing bumper cars in the last clip.
Stop crying
@@derekbrunette222He was useless for the majority of the 2021 season. People look at Abu Dhabi and assume Checo provided amazing support the whole season when he in reality he barely ever had decent track position in most races to be strategically useful.
I find it easier to believe that Checo doesn't feel as confident in the new car rather than the "lost his touch" thing, we know they're different cars and he has said he didn't feel always confortable with the setups and stuff
This gen of cars should suit him better than Max
@@lasaus6350in what world max loses to perez bruh
@lasaus6350 I seem to remember Max being ahead in the standings before Barcelona 🤔
@@lasaus6350 because the Barcelona car would be one of the slowest cars on the grid by now. Take your meds.
@@lasaus6350uhhh you do realize Max was leading the title long before then right? It was pretty solidified once the street tracks were over and he embarrassed Checo in Miami, crushing his confidence. And that was when the car suited Checo more than Max. Once that switched and the car got faster with Checo failing to adapt, he was left for dead with Alonso and Hamilton slapping him around with at times the third quickest cars lol. At this point I’m almost positive you hardcore Perez fans have a combined IQ of 11
I'm sorry, I don't see the difference between the haphazard moves of the past and of the present. The only difference is how the other drivers reacted to them. If norris or grosjean hadn't seen perez, it would've been the same as magnussen and albon, and that was luck. He never had control of the car in those moves, unless you consider locking the fronts and understeering across the track as having control. By that standard, Verstappen's move on leclerc on lap 1 of lvgp was legit, only because leclerc didn't turn into him.
There's a clear difference, in the moves he did in the past he was totally side by side going into the apex whereas the recent ones he only half sent it and hit the drivers in the rear, so it's a lot harder to react to that. You can call all of those dirty but the first ones are better executed
@@elplan3605maybe so with grosjean, but with norris, perez didn't crash into him because norris, who had begun to turn right, stopped turning before perez' front was even alongside his rear, letting him through.
Still, in both cases, he locked the fronts and lost too much time. It might look cool but it's not very efficient or clean racing. Only if it was a move for the lead, with not threat from behind, it would at least be efficient.
@@IhnalakoKaina Perez didn't overshoot the corner, he had control of the car. Got the inside line and overtook him. Lando would be in the wrong if he turned in. (Like Russell in Las Vegas)
Idk why no one is talking about this, these moves were awful (except the 1st one which was legit good).
Perez is just a terrible driver by F1 standards. He had a very lucky career.
i personally just think it has to do with media perception and motivation, since he’s gotten older he’s really laid off the aggression he once had, he’s always been good at saving tires and that allowed him to put more stress/flat spotting when he really needed to be aggressive. now he plays a completely passive role of just saving tires and letting strategy do it’s thing when in reality he’s done a much better job going for bursts of speed after saving his tires for a few laps.
I suspect that Perez has always driven cars with more grip at the rear, while RBR has had more grip at the front since 2014, so much so that, while last year's car had more grip at the rear, and this year's car was neutral, it was close to the Max, so I think it's very unfair for people to say he is a bad driver.
I agree
kind of like Daniel case eh? when the car wasn't suited because McLaren is rear-oriented car as opposed to RB and Renault front-oriented
Learn to adapt otherwise he should not be there. There are sufficient drivers in the wait.
@@mickeymike8723Nah, I'd say the Newey just isn't that good, otherwise the car would be friendly to both drivers, just because it doesn't adapt doesn't mean it's bad.
@@gmdascensia Yes, but I think Daniel could drive some front cars, the problem with the Mclaren car is that it only allows u lines, and Ricciardo is only fast doing v lines.
The singapour move on albon is so bad he just straight up plays bumper car, a shame to be witnessed in F1but we can all agree that the pressure to perform was a huge factor for him to take so much risk
no different to what max does on a weekly basis, only difference is people move out the way for him so there's no contact. most recent example: turn 1 vegas gp
@@ok-dy2tzI'm sorry but those are no way near comparable. Both max and Leclerc were side by side going into turn 1 at Vegas and Max had the inside line. They both understeered, I don't think it was at all because Leclerc moved out the way for him.
I've not seen Max do anything as bad as that Perez divebomb. He wasn't even 25% alongside him...
@@RJA leclerc didnt understeer. he knew it would be suicide to commit to the corner because he knew max wasnt going to leave him space. you have to take extra caution with max. he's not gonna back out, so if you dont either, theres a high chance of a crash. hamilton proved this in 2021
Max broke him in Miami since then hes never been the same.
what happened in miami? I always hear about it but i still dont get it
@@octanev223Max and checo were very close in points in the championship at the time and checo really thought he had a chance at winning the championship as he was performing so well in the season so far and started on pole in miami,but max who started 9th still overtook checo on pure pace and won by 5 seconds and seeing this checo faced reality and has never had great performances since then
@@octanev223 Max started from P9 because he couldn't set a time in Q3 because of a red flag. Checo got pole position. Checo was in a perfect position to win that race, because Red Bull was much quicker than the rest of the field, and his teammate started 8 places behind him. But Max still ended up winning the race by over 5 seconds.
People say it broke Checo, because up until then, Checo was actually competitive against Max a few times. He won the previous race (on merit), and Checo felt he was in a battle for the championship. Then in Miami, Max completely dominated Checo.
@@octanev223 Basically after Perez winning Baku and being hailed ''king of the street'', there were some people implying that Perez had an actual shot at WDC. Miami qualifying saw Perez starting from pole with Max starting 9th. Max put on an incedible stint on hards and outpaced perez on mediums and was already in striking distance within 20 rounds. After Max finally pitted Perez had one last chance to defend but Max overtook him effortlesly.
For most F1 fans (especialy redbull fans) this is the moment where Max proved to be on a different level from Perez, with Perez's slight hope at a WDC quickly dissappearing. From that point onward I feel like the pressure got to him and he started making mistake after mistake
@@octanev223max stole his juice box
It’s plain - pressure crack these people. Same thing happened to Gasly, Albon, Perez. Bottas at Mercedes. It’s very relatable to any real life situation where you make stupid mistakes under pressure. Emotions get the best of you.
It also doesn’t help that Checo has been in a championship capable winning vehicle for 3 seasons now, which amounts to your own pressure of becoming a world champion boiling over on yourself.
Yeah, I feel like he crumbled aftter Miami when everyone was talking about how Perez was going to "beat Max Verstappen" and then gets overtaken in 30 laps? That got to his head probably.
@@briannam1082that was the race mate.
Since then he's bottled quali, overtakes, and just race pace.
Max mentally broke him in Miami
@@slimstrait780 Since Miami, Perez has been mentally taunted, and has lost his confidence in the car. He was leading the race for more than 90% of the time, and when Max overtook him, his confidence went downhill. Critisism from the press isn't helping, and he can't find the groove that he once had in that RB19. In all truth, he has to "find his confidence" again by himself.
I've been a big fan of Checo since his Sauber days. I think what's happening to him now is similar to what happened in 2013. Drive to Survive newcomers don't realise that Checo was an absolute weapon back in the day, thanks for showing a bit of what he used to be like!
Don’t know about weapon lol but his race craft was defo better than he’s showing this season
He’s also getting old as well so one can make the assertion that his reaction times are starting to slip making him worse in close contact
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 He was a weapon, one of the most aggressive, brave and exciting drivers to watch and he'd pull great results from that and tyre wizardry. But his pitfall is clumsy mistakes and they're getting frequent now with age as you say.
@@gabe2968 yeah, I think a big reason was also since he's currently being used as a 2nd driver, rest of the stuff is true but that pressure driving along Max and being expected to be on par at this point seems quite unrealistic considering how fast Max really has gotten and I think it's obvious Red Bull also want the best for Max since he's in his prime.
calling people drive to survive fans because they dont like a driver negates any point you could ever make
@@zq3yp exactly🤣 the insult is so played out these days, children just throw it out whenever they lack a logical argument to a driver doing horribly.
Man I do miss these small nimble pre 2017 cars. Especially light pre 2014 cars without stupid hybrid power units.
Nah the 2014 were silly slow lol, arguably the slowest formula of cars since 1998
GP2 we’re competing with them in terms of lap times on certain tracks
they were already hybrid since 2009/2010
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 pre-2014
@@mcmystix Whoops just seen my bad on this lol
Those early V6 cars were boats lol. They drove like trucks.
The true downforce era started in 2017
from what im seeing in the explanations is the difference between then and now is Perez is expecting other drivers to just let him by as he is in a dominant car thinking "whats the point in fighting" as opposed to in the past where he is in a fight or flight mentality. The only issue is ALL of the attempts present and past he simply doesn't have control of his car, he understeers and has to fight to keep his car on the track at the expense of other drivers who have no room to defend. Perez initially getting the seat at RB was down to his surprising performances in a MERC 2.0 Racing Point and with him being a free agent with alot of fan support. Now? well, its difficult for him because he is directly compared to Max but should be consistently qualifying 2nd and finishing beside Max. I'm afraid he just doesn't cut it with the big boys and will be replaced fast.
At this point they've got the historical 1-2, they could decide he's out for next year.
You said it better than I did
One thing to consider as well is a fact that his divebombs were made with much nimbler cars and that he somewhat lost his skill in RedBull when cars became fatter and bigger than ever. Also all of his divebombs were not exactly perfectly executed, since he smoked his tyre and nearly losing it every time when performing this manouver. He managed to make it done, but by far not as smoothly as other experts of such manouvres.
@@bogdanconstantin5911 Yeah but why would they do that. Look at Mercedes. Russell is bitching all year if they are fighting the others or themselfs. Meanwhile takes every chance he can get to attack hamilton if he is behind himself to even downright sell out Hamilton, for example when he changed tires under a SC, which left Hamilton without any protection to get eaten up, compared to them possibly being able to hold their positions by giving DRS to the other driver and working as a team on the used but relatively fresh mediums. Idk which race it actually was but I remember that one very well. Or Leclerc and Sainz who I think had a similar moment in the very same race and really all the time are just fighting one another. While rivalry can be good we know it can be bad as well and putting a talented and hot headede young driver next to their established Champion really doesnt seem like the greatest idea.
Mercedes kinda has no choice as they at some point need a new number 1 with Hamilton not getting any younger, but Verstappen will surely race another 5 years at least and likely all of them for RB so they really dont have to worry about that right now.
Perez does everything RB needs him to do, which is right now secure P2 in the drivers championship and of course thus the constructors as well.
And honestly I think most people expect Perez to be doing better and even his relatively poor performance allowed him to take P2 behind Max.
And look at the rest of the Field. Russell and Leclerc for example massively underperformed this year, yet noone is talking about them being replaced.
@@LunnarisLP Russell I agree, he's been inconsistent but arguably the best they can get (unless they could somehow convince Albon idk).
Leclerc however has been immensely unlucky in at least 4 races so far: Bahrain, Spain, COTA, and Brazil. Car reliability aside he's still the third best driver in the second best car (when it reaches the finish line, lol).
There are more things, Riccardo used to be super divy! But since 2022 cars are heavier and slow to brake compared with previous years.
This matters
They sit much flatter and have stiffer front suspension and I think the FIA actually intended for the rules to discourage divebombing. It sucks because racing now is really about DRS and looking after tyres. I hated seeing Max run dudes off with his crazy divebombs but dammit I miss the hard racing and drama that use to come with that. F1 has never been so sanitised.
As a fan of Perez, he’s ALWAYS made his share of mistakes. It’s now more magnified at a top team
2012 Japan was the first race I ever saw! To bad checo beach his car some laps later.
Awesome your doing this recollections of checo, it really shows your knowledge of the sport.
Keep up the good work!
Very nice compilation bruv
All the pedants coming out of the woodwork to make exuses for Perez, downplay Max's season, and argue over the definition of "most dominant" 💀
I think its because he was always very concious and 2nd guessing on braking in the oversteery redbull. Back then he had a car that he can trust on the brakes so he can pull those off very confidently, then when he got the oversteery car, which he isnt comfortable in, he keeps on misjudging it. But now it looks like checo finally understand how to drive an oversteery car, which is why hes very close with max especially in qualis since mexico (vegas is an outlier since he got screwed by strat), it should be improved much by now like we can see in vegas and brazil he can cut through the field very neatly. But in defending he still has that hesitation like in brazil. Like because now he know he had to drive the redbull by early braking, he thought alonso can divebomb him in turn 1 so then he goes too defensive. Im happy for checo to see him finally understand how to drive an oversteery car, just now i wish he can race the oversteery car a bit more crafty, i think its just a matter of time
both singapore and japan were in 2023 btw
Seems Verstappen is the dominant factor in that car.
I’m sorry but none of the moves in the first part of the video were clean. They all involved him clearly locking up and sometimes being very lucky to not hit others.
1 clip in 2011
1 in 2016
1 in 2020
Lets make an entire religion out of this
LMAO 🤣🤣
I think we need to be a bit more understanding. The RB19 has anti-squat and dive features which makes the car difficult to feel, this has hurt perez's confidence -> leading to second guessing himself and confidence issues -> crashes and outbreaking or breaking to early. In addition it also means he is struggling to find the limit.
I feel its less the car being suited to max and moreso, Max is better at coping (he himself has lost the car at times). There are certain dominant cars that some drivers find abhorrent to drive, I think one of the dominant Williams under Mansell he really didn't like the car.
IIRC it wasn’t Mansell who didn’t like the car but Prost, Prost said there was no feeling in the car due to all of the gizmos the FW15-C so the car wasn’t as sensitive and you couldn’t feel when the car was on the limit so when it went there was no recovering
This is partially the reason the FW-16 to begin was such a troublesome car as it had the same concepts of the 15 but without the gizmos to stabilise ride height and provide a stable aerodynamic platform leading the car to stalling often and having a propensity to snap oversteer and bottom out
Let's add to this that these ground effect cars are even bigger and heavier. They look so much lazier under braking and rotation than the already large and heavy (by F1 standards) previous generation.
Anytime I see clips from 2017-2021 I'm astounded by just how nimble those cars look compared to the '22-'23 cars when I remember them being so much clumsier. Of course divebombing isn't going to work nearly as well when you're lugging around another 50kg. It's not just Perez, I feel like a lot of drivers stopped taking as many risks with divebombs.
@@RaZor921 the funniest thing is people called the 2017-2021 cars boats due to its weight and length of car compared to the mid 2000s cars
That should tell you how bad these current cars are in low speeds lol
These cars might as well be sea carriers lol
One of the most dominant cars, not the most dominant!
In %, it is the most dominant right now, slighty in front of the McLaren MP4/4.
Despite that, it's important to note that the only race that McLaren lost was due to a mistake from Ayrton and McLaren, that year, was the fastest car in every track. Red Bull, instead, at Singapore wasn't that great
@@kristianangeloni Both Senna and Prost where miles ahead of the field in quali- and racepace. The RB seems to be only just faster then the other cars, but one of the RB's has Verstappen in it. He is the big difference maker there.....
@@hound83 Yeah, Max + RB19 is one of the best combos ever and showed us what a champ can do with a dominant car and just a 'good' - and not at his best - driver as a team mate.
Here in Italy there are a lot of people who understimates Max efforts in this season because of how dominant the RB19 is (exactly like they did with Hamilton, but with Schumacher they were fine), but the fact is that you can't be dominant with the best car, and the best car not always is dominant with every driver. Max's driving style is something that requires a specific and extreme setup for perform at the best, and with that setup... Checo simply can't drive. Afterall, that's the difference between a monster and a good driver.
Btw, I think that Senna or Prost would've done the same in 1988, but the fact that they were pushing each other to the limit leaded to some DNF (with the Monza one that interrupted the perfect season).
If we watch the results of the MP4/4, they are insane. McLaren never crossed the line under the 6th place, with Prost that -except for the DNF- was always in the first two positions.
Checo is not worse than Webber. Webber didn't win a single race in 2013 while his teammate won 13 races, 9 race wins in a row. He was angry about multi 21 do you remember? In 2011 he just won the last race of the season in Brazil while his teammate won 11 races.
On both seasons webber couldn't even fight for second in the championship.
The major issue is that the new cars have softer suspension, to negate the purposing effects. While that helps, it filters out a lot of the tactile feedback of the car, making it feel "less confident". A driver that spends a lot of time in simulators, like Verstappen, Norris or Russel, can drive the car without relying on tactile feedback, and can perform well in a "dull" car. While old school drivers that dislike the sim, like Perez and Hamilton, don't have the necessary confidence to take the car to the limit.
I have a feeling know why his divebombs don’t work anymore, in the old clips he does nearly send it in the gravel, locks up and the cars are lighter AND smaller. He’s probably past his prime at this point, he’s been in the sport a good while now too. And he is a tire whisperer which doesn’t co exist with sending it up the Inside 40 meters back barely keeping it on the black stuff while smokescreening the driver next to you. While his 23 was not the best, the new cars being massive and his time in the sport is a good reason for this.
Out with the old in with the new...
@@flyfruit55And Hamilton
@@PauliesWalnuts @flyfruit55 Those two are just such enormous talents there's still room to lose a lot of their gifts. Nobody is immune to aging
@@PauliesWalnuts Hamilton looks washed as well. He hasn't competed for a race win much in the last 2 years. Losing the 21 title seemed to take its toll on him. His career is much like Jimmie Johnson in Nascar. Won multiple titles when he had the dominant car. Seemed to get old overnight, went from winning races and titles to not competing for wins at all.
Alot has to do with the way the new cars generate downforce, the old concept was front and bargeboard heavy with the downforce therefore at low speed their was more downforce available. The new regulations are relaying on the floor, but when the car is at low speed the car is higher from the ground because the downforce is not as high as at 100/200 km/h. So therefore divebombs are really difficult to to because the downforce is retracting so fast
Best F1 channel in UA-cam. Congrats and keep going mate💪
"Well, a lot of people thought that it would be two Red Bulls disappearing off into the, uh, setting sun here at Suzuka. Not the case at the moment. One's leading. One's down in 22nd..."
foreshadowing
They addressed this exact narrative during the Vegas buildup and everyone agreed that divebombs just aren't part of a reasonable race strategy any more. The cars are built different. They also used Danny Ricc as a great case study since he used to be known for "sending it".
This is probably more why Perez has ostensibly fallen off. He doesn't feel at one with the car any more.
Saying that he just doesn't dive bomb any more therefore bad is such a surface level take.
Yes, these were entirely Checo’s mistakes, not only because of misjudgment but also lack of confidence and mental issues due to pressure 😞
Considering he is driving a car not suited for him, his engineering and mechanics being not equally experienced as the ones working for Max and some unfortunate strategies this season, that made Checo look even worse 😅
I mean, it was not his best season, he made mistakes but he reached the minimum objective getting 2nd 🥈 place, making history for RB
Never had Redbull won a 1,2 in drivers championship, here comes Checo, pulls it off, and people like you make videos about him not having skills. You do it then, why no one else could but he could? It's a car designed for one person, and he learned how to fight it and make it work, even though it is not made to his liking. It's like trying tonolay sports on shoes that are not your size, but in this case can get you killed, and he did anyways and won 2nd. He is nothing but a legend, he is the reason why Verstappen beat Hamilton in his first championship and now secured the best result ever for Redbull. Total legend
I guess his driving style doesn't go with the settings of RB19 (and perhaps 18 as well). I believe he has publicly spoken it before. I am not saying he performed well, but i think its just related. The car is fast. Yet it doesn't give him enough confidence, thus undermining his overall performance.
It’s easy when the pressure is off, there are not huge expectations and your team mate isn’t on top of his game and the grid. At RB those things changed, even Max driving changes when those things change, he nails the quail but his races become very “messy” when the field catch up.
The Spirit of Kvyat possessed the car
I still believe that if Mercedes got Checo for 2021 it would have been a 3-way title battle considering the way Checo was driving the RacingPoint in 2020 which was essentially the 2019 Merc.
Impossible scenario tho since Merc were not going to keep George on the sidelines any longer, but fun to think about since the Merc and Redbull are fundamentally different cars.
why is RB19 the most dominant car ever? its one of the for sure, but not the most dominant
i agree for me W11 is the most dominant car even bottas is good in that car, Rb19 is not easy to drive look at Max and Perez diference.
Can believe he left the door open TWICE at Las Vegas GP. All he had to do was take the inside line and brake a tad later (or slower) to push Leclerc out. Verstappen did it when he overtook Leclerc for the lead.
they say that that RB suspension setup...the anti squat thing that keep the floor level under load screws up the 'feeling' under braking with the car. I guess that could play a big part in misjudging situations when he has to drive and brake differently from doing lap times.
That white force india steering wheel is so clean
That overtake on Norris in Austria is truly batshit insane. So incisive on the brakes. Why is this not talked about more?
because divebombs arent nice overtakes, it just forces the defending driver to avoid a collision,
@@fervunk1143
They are effective, and they are legal. I don't know why you don't think they're nice, I personally think they are epic.
That was an awful pass, these are all honestly very bad passes. All of them required the other driver to be very skilled to not cause the collision.
@@davidboyer7706 Leclerc's divebomb last race looked way better than any of Perez's in this clip. Leclerc maintained control throughout the maneuver without locking up his tires or anything
surely the key difference really is that he's finally in a car where the _setup_ of the car to get competitive isn't one he's suited to
in other words, i think he'd be making these same types of moves in the RB if only verstappen wasn't dominating the setup direction of the car
Everyone's claiming the RB18 and 19 are oversteery cars to suit Max, meanwhile Checo understeers hard af in Japan and the car is still not suited to him? Thought he liked understeery cars?
All the old examples (anecdotal, but still), show him locking up and almost losing control. The two recent examples he was always in control, just dived like a kid playing F1 with damage off.
@@bogdanconstantin5911 i'm not just talking about an oversteer or understeery balance but the _entire_ way the car behaves and needs to be handled, like the way you approach a corner, how you apply the brakes, how you traverse mid-corner, etc.
just because he likes the general tendency of the car to understeer doesn't mean he is in tune with the handling
also, not just the rb 18 and 19. every car setup direction red bull have taken since verstappen joined the team has been based largely on verstappen's feedback because he's able to get the car to go quicker
@@bogdanconstantin5911 You can make a nervous car understeery, does not mean it won't stay nervous though
the cars back then helped more on this kind of moves, lighter and smaler cars
I think the video is missing the part where the cars drastically changed. The current generation are super stiff and unforgiving, and I think he is still struggling with that. Verstappen seems to be much better understanding these changes and adjusting, while Checo fails to rotate the car in time and lunge. Driving on a knive's edge has been mentioned a lot in detailed videos about how the current cars are so much different. This would mean, that if he will regain his trust in the car, he is still the same checo, just unable to handle the car properly (or simply needs more time to adjust).
Okay, but then don't make the move if you know you lack the confidence fo do so
Checo isn't confident with RB cars because he prefers an understeer-y car, a complete opposite of what he currently drives, an immense oversteer but with immense sharp front. That makes the car, like, unpredictable to him because one wrong move on going to the limit means spinning, taking off the track and into the barriers. Understeery car on the other hand, based on what I have observed on the cams on Checo, he can definitely predict where the car is when understeering and deal with it immediately.
what's the definition of a dominant car? how do you measure this compared to other dominant cars?
Percentage of wins in relation to how many races there are.
That second seat is cursed! I wonder what could be if Piastri took that seat. Young drive, tons of skill, doesn’t seem to let the pressures of F1 get to him. Could be an awesome contender for second seat.
The seat isn't cursed, Max just set the bar too high.
Also Red Bull wants Norris not Piastri, and Webber as his agent would probably not let him join Red Bull without a preferential treatment and, as long as Max is there, that isn't going to happen. Although I agree, the rookie is a terrific driver and world champion material for sure.
I disagree. Checo is still second in the championship (basically the best thats possible). Max is too high caliber thats all.
@@LubomirGeorgiev I suppose that’s true…what else does RB need from checo? Obviously max can get the job done by himself and doesn’t need any ‘team’ help. They are 1-2 in drivers and secured the constructors.
I can't say that I can recall or have the recordings of every Perez overtake, so I ask, is there and selection or confirmation bias at play here? That is, we all expect Perez's form to be worse in the present relative to the past, so could the footage or the analysis of be selected to reflect that?
I'm not sure if it's the new cars , but since 2022 he's never been the same
i think the pressure from red bull making checo not the same
From RB or from himself? He's the one referring to himself as title contender etc each season and challenging max. Dude is the only one in the team expecting that level. All RB want is a decent driver bringing the 2nd fastest car home in p6-p3 each race
@@Jon-cw8bbNot lower than P4. P6 is a stretch.
Here’s how I see this, yes he used to do these crazy overtakes, but the driving style of these cars is completely different than it was in 2011, hell is was different in 2013, and 2017 the cars changed so much in 13 or so years, especially now. These cars are meant to be driven smoothly because of the ground effect era carss
We can't discount the fact that a Fast Car doesn't mean a Stable car. This RB is as fast as it is oversteery and constantly on the limit (as many have pointed, similar to the dominant Ferraris of the early 00s). Max has obviously found how to tame it (both in setup and in handling) in ways he really enjoys and feels confident about. Then he can relax and take the best decisions because he knows he has blistering pace and great racecraft in his favor. Perez didn't, and all those great moments in the video seem out of character now.
Red Bull knows that and it also knows that ANY driver on the grid would struggle for at least a full year before even starting to get grips with this car in a way that would be better than Perez with his experience now. So they don't think a swap would be effective anyway. He got his p2(thanks in great part to the fact that no single team had any consistency throughout the season, with McLaren and Aston Martin being the worst in going up incredibly and down catastrophically in different moments of the season) and that's it for now
You seriously believe that Alonso would not dominate this car after the second race? He dominated the horrible 2012 Ferrari and almost won the championship that year.
@@alejandroperez5368, I think Fernando would get used to the car to an extent a lot quicker than many people believe. The only problem is that Fernando's driving style is centered around understeer.
That argument would be correct if Perez had been bad since the introduction of the car. Except that's not the case. Perez proved that he can drive the car quite masterfully for a few races, but then after Miami he just lost his confidence. The Redbull car finished 30 seconds ahead in the first race of the season, just like it did in Spain. Difference was in the first race Perez was P2, in Spain he was far behind in P4 after a bad qualifying. It's not like Max discovered how to drive it, rather that Perez forgot to.
@@FirebonE_88he would tame it, but he won't be as good as Max, as Max's driving style suits that car well
@@gauravmalltarlok5354, I'm not saying Perez is bad, but I honestly believe that everything at that team is centered around Max, especially the car.
I think the problem is with the size and weight of the car. The cars used to be much smaller and lighter therefore allowing for easier control and awareness when sending a massive divebomb. I think the same goes with Ricciardo who used to be a god with the brakes but now with the new cars he just isn't as good. He probably just needs some time to adapt unlike Max who gets used to new cars very easily.
Stop saying "most dominant car ever" because it isn't. Not even close. The British channel THE RACE made a video about this with actual data. The Mercedes W11 was the most dominant car in recent years (biggest gap to competition). Is it ONE of the more dominant cars? Yes. But with Verstappen they have a driver that leaves no points on the table, the pit crew is on fire, strategy team is on fire, the team boss knows what he's doing .. all puzzle pieces fit together.
Maybe its different when you are racing for p10-p6 instead of p1-2. Pressure on him must be insane
RB19 is fast at the cost of rear stability which is what Max exactly wanted, maximum agility and massive oversteer make the car a total beast that is really hard to tame, only the best of the best can. Unfortunately for Checo, he's decent but not The best, and the car is designed for The best.
Thats bs. No car has oversteer compared to the early 2010 generation.
I wonder if its fear/pressure from RB that is getting to him. He's clearly capable but something (RB higher ups) are getting to him and I think the fear of losing his seat is eating him up rather than it encouraging him to not miss a step. I don't think he has to 100% be a Max clone, but some of Max should shed off on him.
In all of those old clips, he's doing it while locking up tho, which would compromise his tyres performance in the long run
It's not even close the most dominant f1 car ever. Did you start watching in 2022?
Just because it’s been the most dominant car in Max’s hands doesn’t mean it’ll be the same for Checo. Despite being the same chassis, cars are set up differently for each driver. And if the main handling characteristics of the chassis is geared towards your #1 driver preferences, it might not fair so well for driver #2. This is similar to Ricciardo tenure with McLaren. Norris could get performance out of the car and Ricciardo couldn’t
This channel would be so much better with a voiceover.
One of the main reasons for this was because the car was oversteer, which suited max’s driving style, whereas check liked a car that was more understory, because he likes to have more control over the car, especially over the front end of the car, but the rb19 didn’t suit him. That is why check looked horrible in the rb19 and max looked and was dominant in the same car.
That's not the most dominant car by far. There were cars much more dominant than the opposition. Just because max has been the most consistent driver ever the car is winning so much. I would argue the 2014 Mercedes and the 1989 mclaren are much more dominant. Just because of how much they were faster that the other cars. Max wins by a few seconds over a whole race. This is like 1-2 tenths faster every lap. I remember the 2014 Mercedes just smoking these guys by over 30 seconds every race. They didn't win when things went wrong for both cars
In terms of percentages it will be the most dominant car ever and Max seldom has had to push for most of his wins because the only other car that can challenge him was languishing down in the midfield after another terrible qualifying
Why am I going to abuse the tires and stress the engine when I don’t need to, as Prost said I want to win a race at the slowest possible speed, this is often shown with Max when he put his fastest laps in and goes instantly 1-1.5 seconds faster you have to ask how much was he pushing before
The difference is with Mercedes you had 2 drivers who wasn’t messing up Quali and were racing head to head. At that point the margins are finer and you’re gonna be pushing each other more leading to bigger gaps to the field
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 this is not true at all. In half of the races max has been somewhat pushed and hasn't let of the gas. The mercs were beating these guys by 1 second in qualy sometimes. Y'all just underestimate how good max has been. I've been watching since 2008 and I've never seen someone so consistent. Even when vettel was dominating in 2011 and 13 it wasn't like that. Qualifying is the best metric for a fast car and driver. There have been much better cars in qualy than the rb19. What makes great drivers is the race. Great example is the late 90s where schumi had a much slower car and wasnt on pole usually but still challenged for the championship and won many races because he is a better driver. The best drivers win the races providing their car is somewhat competitive. You mentioned prost. Senna is insanely overrated because he was a great qualifier. Prost is better than him because he is better in races. That's similar to max now. Look up all the best drivers and they have more wins than poles. If max was driving for Ferrari or Mercedes and someone else that wasn't as good as him was in the rb seat he still would've won the championship. The car is the best but it's not nearly as good as people make it out to be. Checo isn't a bad driver at all. Max is just that good
@@whogivesafack-ch3lj And I’ve been watching F1 since 2003 and seriously since 2005
I am not trying to downplay Max talent at all I think he’s an extremely talented driver or of the best talents to ever grace the field of formula 1
However that RB19 in race spec is as dominant as it gets as a car, the only thing the RB19 somewhat struggles in is Quali due to how its suspension is set up however Red bull were still easily taking poles for the most part (it was the class of the field) it’s closed up since due to them literally not have updated the car in nearly 5months now but teams that could get close-ish to it can’t hold a candle to it in race day conditions
The 90s example of MSC I don’t like using even though the Michael was the best driver in the sport at the time car reliability affected results a lot more than it does today affecting how championship outcomes ended up it was a little easier to compete with not the best car for the championship than it is today
Senna I wouldn’t say he’s overrated, did his death improve how people think of him yes but as a driver the most part he’s fairly rated rather than saying Senna is overrated Prost is simply the most underrated driver in f1 history as his name should be mentioned in places it rarely is often mentioned
lol if Max was driving the Ferrari or Mercedes and let’s say Lando Norris was driving the RB, Red bull will still win that WDC/WCC nothing is stopping RB winning the WDC this year how I know this as bad a Perez has been this year he has still secured p2 in the championship so if I put a driver better than Perez in the RB instead of Max you’re telling me they’re gonna do worse than Perez??
And never forget Checo was a pay driver who got his break in McLaren flopped and was sent back to the midfield for most of his career he was never a world beater
It’s impossible to divebomb in the post 2022 f1 cars
Poor albon
It is known that Perez doent like a oversteering car.
Since the post 2022 cars are heavier, and have a far harder time under traction it probably is down to the current era of cars he cant get along with.
pre 2022 cars were also a lot more stable under braking and less likely to lock up.
Hes a good driver, the rb19 is a car that really doesnt like to understeer and checo's driving style of preffering understeery cars make it worse, and also he haslost confidence due to huge amounts of pressure
I find it hilarious how people keep saying that the RB19 is the most dominant car.
How do people have such short memories, the Mercedes W06 and W07 were very clearly more dominant. Winning races by FAR larger margins and winning qualifying regularly more than 1 second clear of the field. The RB19 nor the RB18 have done that. The RB19 is only into the 2nd year of the current regulations, and it's been beaten multiple times in qualifying, and most qualifying sessions have been quite close. Go look at what was happening with Mercedes in the similar timeline in their era.
Checo clearly is lacking with this car as Verstappen clearly shows he can extract more/all of its performance.
The RB19 and Verstappen ARE possibly the most dominant combination of Driver and Car, but the Mercedes era of car dominance FAR surpasses the current Red Bull.
"you got the touch , YOU GOT THE POWER" *proceed to ruin kevin and alex race*
How is nobody talking about how hard the car is to drive? I think every teammate has complained about the car being too pointy. Then people boast the Bottas q3 stat, but doesnt that show that the mercedes was easy to drive? We're not going to pretend Bottas is even a tenth of Lewis caliber right? And he gave him trouble a couple of times... The fact that he hasnt outright beaten Zhou (rookie btw) just shows that the Mercedes was easy to drivr and the RB is not.
Even Max complained a few years back about the car being difficult to drive and not liking the way it was designed. But he adapted to it and improved, now he's unstoppable.
He hasn't lost his touch. You fail to mention two highly rated drivers failed miserably driving that car against Max. The pressure is ridiculous at RB. Whether it's Marko saying every week how much of a dissapointment you are, praising Max and reassuring his #1 status, and many more, Perez went through immense pressure and still managed to finish 2nd in the championship. At least he did a better job than Albon, Gasly and Ricciardo. Drivers don't ''lose their touch'' or forget how to drive from one year to another. The team simply won't listen to him when it comes to car development, so he's always in disadvantage.
Maybe Checo’s only hope of regaining some confidence is to return to the midfield with a teammate he can match. Or maybe he’s a driver who just can’t fully adapt to driving the heavier and ultra-stiff cars of the current formula.
The RB isn't that dominant, Max is just that good.
Not the most dominant car, there are faster, more dominant against the rest if you wanna be specific and say just car.... Now if you say most dominant car+driver yes...
Remember Mercedes was lapping cars that were 6th on the grid ... Thats how fast that car was..
His qualifying needs work he seemed off right before we hit the mid season mark. I believe he will do way better next season if he is able to adapt to the car better. He pace looks like he’s in an alpha tauri sometimes.
"the most dominant car ever"
Ehmmm. Yes, RB is dominant now but have you looked at the Mercedes car of the previous F1 era? 🤔
For me this RB is dominant, but it seems more dominant because the rest of the teams are lost and the car really fits Verstappen driving style
2022-2023 cars are heavier than previous cars were. That one of the reasons why divebombs look ”slow”
They say the car is build for max driving style, but this doesn’t make any sense, the car is fast anyways, it is checo that can’t push it to the limit. Drives HAVE to adapt themselves to the car
This video aged like milk before it was posted.
I think this just exposes how perez is simply not able to adapt to this generation of cars.
His move at Suzuka this year was so bad, the lap before he almost tried it, I knew he was gonna try that move again
Boss, the cars are so much more heavier and difficult to manoeuvre now. Make a video on how others are doing it, you will hardly find anyone.
The 2023 las vegas grand prix, max threw in a dive bomb on russel and they had a collision too… its not as easy as you editing a few clips and posting it…
Perhaps it's harder to execute these moves properly with these wider, heavier cars? I agree with earlier comments that some of these successful moves in the past could have ended differently.
He's born to drive for mid-table cars, ironically turning 2013 McLaren into a mid-table team
In 2013 McLaren was going down hill no matter what... That's why Hamilton jumped off that car... Button stayed and couldn't do much either so...
Driving a car that's set up way different is different than losing their touch imo. Hopefully he bounces back next year
To me the only real difference is that the defending car is able to brake later in this years cars and thus cover it off easier. All of the moves from pre Red Bull in this video Perez was almost out of control.
He was always clumsy. The examples you are giving of dive bombs is just him doing very late uncontrolled braking while the other driver is losing time because there is a dumb smoky wall in the middle of the corner
Stop calling the RB19 the most dominant car ever, it‘s factually not even top 3 since the turbo hybrid era started on pure pace over the 2nd best car🙃
hello fellow brain haver
Compared to the whole field it is, u can't compare it to the W11 because of the differences in regulations
it literally isn't
how can you say lapping whole field is not more dominant than finishing few seconds ahead of other car (not even teammate)
@@keonxd8918 The Merc‘s in 2014/16 and 20 were all FACTUALLY more dominant than this years RB in terms of average quali/race pace advantage over the 2nd fastest car and you could go further back with the F2004/2, some of the 80/90‘s McLaren cars and Williams cars. The RB19 isn‘t even top 5 most dominant cars ever. Max and the whole operational RB team at the track is simply the greatest team/driver pairing that ever existed in this sport. The fact that Hamilton/Mercedes hold 0 seasonal records in F1 is almost comical given their insane car dominance from 14-21.
@@Reaz399Bullshit. Max looks better than he really is because his teammates suck and his team is perfect. The likes of Hamilton, Schumacher and Senna never had such luxury.
I stopped watching after statement that RB19 is most dominant F1 car ever. Nice research bro
Two best on track battles this year included Perez.
He wants to be a Diamond but cracks under the immense pressure.
Two last incidents obviously come from 2023 not 2022*
Max in the RB19 is the most dominant F1 car ever. Not the F1 car itself. It is very hard to drive, as we have seen from Perez, a great driver himself, Albon and Gasly, both top level drivers too, as we can see their performances the last 2 years.
Max is just on another level, and takes the car to another level. this is the fact.
Perez is a mediocre driver, as are Albon and Gasly.
Isn't the W11 the most dominant F1 car ever?
W11 won 13 of 17 races.
RB19 won 20 of 21 (and there's one race left, probably won by RedBull too. So 21 of 22).
it's the fastest, not the most dominant
if you're talking about the most dominant car ever, that would be the mclaren mp4/4 back in 1988 (93.7% wr), but if the redbulls win the abu dabhi gp, it will become the most dominant car ever within a season (95% wr)
@@ceePx, I see your reasoning. But that's only because W11 had better competition. RB19 has no actual competition.
@@44Andre dunno which car merc had in 2016.. but they won nearly all races in that year... besides a crash (spain max his first win) and an engine failure from the lead.. that was 19 out of 21 I see.. and the 2 races they lost they were by far the quickest too.
thats a more dominant car probably than the RB19.. cause you have win rate (comparable).. but podium rate it was 1-2s all year for merc. the qualifying gap to the field was probably quite ridiculous too btw.
Nope fastest car ever sure but not most dominant car ever
The most dominant cars would be either the
1988 McLaren
1992 Williams
2002 Ferrari
2016 Mercedes
2023 RB
And people where arguing with me early this year when checo was a few points away from max, that he was on the same level. Damn i wish i can find that video....
Right here is a picture-perfect side by side example of how this current generation of behemoth Sherman tanks that they're racing in formula 1 are influencing driving styles.
Don't get me wrong, you can still sneak up the inside for gaps, but it just takes a whole lot more to stop these things now.
And I imagine you have less control under braking as well.
One of the rumors about the next major rules overhaul in 2026 is that they intend to make the cars smaller and lighter again.
I hope so. F1 cars are meant to be nimble; like, it's part of their DNA... Just think back to the little cigar chassis that people like Jim Clark raced.
When I first started following the sport almost 20 years ago, one of my favorite aspects was analyzing driving styles. In the days before they were lugging around batteries & hybrid equipment, when they were still refueling, just a casual/lay follower could track different lines that different drivers were taking through iconic corners, simply with the naked eye. You could just look directly at your non-HD television and go "oh, he likes a lot of oversteer and a planted front end, whereas this one likes a 50/50 balance and drives like he's on rails. Oh, this guy likes to brake a lot later than everyone else", etc. When was the last time you can remember a handful of the field deliberately taking radically different lines around a course for qualifying?
Well now that they're racing around these giant limousines on one-dimensional street circuits, it's more or less funneling everybody into one, singular [understeer-y] driving style kinda.
It's pretty sad.