An incredibly PAINFUL START as Persia - CIV 6 Persia TSL

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  • @Very_Okay
    @Very_Okay Рік тому +520

    these struggle starts are great bc they help me understand what i’m supposed to do when i’m being overrun in one way or another. thanks

    • @TurtleLover69527
      @TurtleLover69527 Рік тому +10

      Sometimes there is nothing to be done but ride out the pain :)

    • @NickSteffen
      @NickSteffen Рік тому +21

      Yea, when he adds a bunch of extra ai civs it dials up the early game difficulty 10x and makes everything much more interesting.

    • @eileenwellings
      @eileenwellings Рік тому +5

      Agreed - Potato is teaching how and why not to give up on tough Deity starts. So much to learn on *every* turn!

    • @Deathsinger99
      @Deathsinger99 Рік тому +1

      There’s nothing we can do…

    • @Ajax6116j
      @Ajax6116j Рік тому +2

      Thank you for suffering, so I know how to reflect pain on my enemies

  • @OvertlyEsoteric
    @OvertlyEsoteric Рік тому +144

    a map mod I like is shuffle++ It basically stitches a bunch of random maps together, so you could get a big chunk of highlands, then a sea filled with islands, then a swampy wetland. it's cool, particularly with larger map sizes

    • @PearlHarbor1941
      @PearlHarbor1941 Рік тому +1

      I’ve been wanting something like this for a while now, I’ll have to check it out

    • @rayriv14
      @rayriv14 Рік тому

      Warding this comment. Will probably get into PC Civ 6 soon

    • @Szczuriusz
      @Szczuriusz Рік тому

      Pretty sure he played with that type of map previously

    • @brendenjones5858
      @brendenjones5858 9 місяців тому

      Commenting for later

  • @limitates6319
    @limitates6319 Рік тому +67

    Plays with true start location - "We are actually as much to the east as possible"

  • @TedSCSI
    @TedSCSI Рік тому +45

    Yeah, since I love domination Persia is always my primary pick, I feel at home really watching this game. The thing that I always do in Ancient era is a double scout and trying to find some preferably far away civ's just for a sake of declaring war on them, this 2 hex boost to movement is a bargain it works so well with lowered penalty for surprise war. This helps in exploration snowball having 2 scouts with 5 movement I can find next civ's for war declarations with added bonus of quickly finding tribal villages etc. Usually I can cycle the war / peace between 2 or 3 such a distant civs all the time to keep this boost alive. Try it, and you will love it!

    • @jenkinsuu
      @jenkinsuu 2 місяці тому

      @@TedSCSI My fav strategy with JFD’s Hitler as well, you get +1 mov and +15% prod for military units while at war with a major civ so I just declare on someone miles away quickly spam a ton of units and roll over whoevers closest

  • @ElliottBelser
    @ElliottBelser Рік тому +150

    War has always been my weak point in Civ so watching you casually deflect Tamar going all in is fascinating

    • @snomcultist189
      @snomcultist189 Рік тому +7

      Tamar is the most aggressive civ

    • @RMCbreezy
      @RMCbreezy Рік тому +5

      War is my favorite part of civ other than exploration and seeing the story unfold

    • @cherrydragon3120
      @cherrydragon3120 Рік тому +12

      Here is a MASSIVE trick to war. If YOU are attacked. Place ranged units in your cities/encampments. They can get a + attack buff from a promotion when in districts (city center counts as district too)
      And have walls in every city. Then you can have 2 shots at your enemies without taking damage. If you got the gobernour victor you van even hit 3 times. 😂
      Then just have some melee units to surround enemy units and finish them off easily.
      When ur in the attack, your front line must be infantry and cavalry. Have ranged units and siege units behind them. You can increase siege unit range even later on with observation balloons and drones. 😂😂 to the point cities can't even hit your artillery units late game.😅 its good fun.
      Early game tips on siege weapons:
      Catapults, bombards, canons: these are used to destroy the city walls and lower city HP.
      Battering rams: theyare for walls, link with mellee units.
      Siege tower: link with mellee units (infantry like man at arms) and allow them to ignore the wall fortification and directly hit city HP.
      (HAS NO USE IF THE CITY IS NOT BESIEGED. AS IT WILL HEAL EVERY TURN IF NOT UNDER SIEGE.)
      [To siege a city you need to place several units around the city. Make sure at minimum all tiles adjacent ro the city are covered by your mellee units. This will usualy take around 3/4 units around the city. 😊😊
      Defensive buffs for mellee units: fortify on hills and forest tiles. (Stacks on forest hills)
      Fortress buildings, encampments and city centers. And at the other side of a river.
      Attack debuff: being on marshes and floodplains as well as being embarked on water as a Not Navy unit. 😊
      Having units next to each other can give support bonus on damage. Surrounding enemy units can give flankong bonus (some units gain more flanking or support bonuses based on unit and/or civ)
      And fcourse Intel on enemy units. By having higher intel on the civ by having embassies and/or spies in their capital.
      Ur welcome.

  • @birdiemcchicken1471
    @birdiemcchicken1471 Рік тому +10

    McWhiskey on Turn 1: Well, I'm screwed
    McWhiskey on Turn 83: Well, my enemies are screwed

  • @dionhoekstra3560
    @dionhoekstra3560 Рік тому +35

    I played on this map with Babylon just yesterday. The fertile rivers work AMAZING with the palgum.

  • @infladead9879
    @infladead9879 Рік тому +8

    I highly respect seeing the struggle on your side. Seeing your expertise work through it is a massive teacher in all of our games. Thank you.

  • @Ascisana
    @Ascisana Рік тому +53

    Well Persia's bonus"Fall of Babylon" is a fitting name for this scenario

  • @MagnusInternals
    @MagnusInternals Рік тому +303

    Can’t believe I played 3000+ hours and never seen Akkad/Immortal combo 😂

    • @andrewklang809
      @andrewklang809 Рік тому +47

      I wanted to scream at him when he talked about razing Akkad in a conquest game. Akkad and Kabul are so strong for warmongers the presence of either nearby can shift an entire game's strategy.

    • @arkadiuszrenc1498
      @arkadiuszrenc1498 Рік тому +4

      Yeah playing ottomans or Zulu with Akad just hits different

    • @rotomfan63
      @rotomfan63 Рік тому

      I've played a simular amount and still have yet to see a nuke or use one, although my PC is slow as hell so a lot more time spend loading then others and still so bad at war I ain't won a domination victory yet

    • @BigPurpleCarrot
      @BigPurpleCarrot Рік тому

      ​@@rotomfan63Domination is the easiest victory though

    • @exotic7597
      @exotic7597 Рік тому +1

      @@BigPurpleCarrot honestly diplo victory is the easiest but in a non dlc game religion and domination are the easiest

  • @masterofgreymog5751
    @masterofgreymog5751 Рік тому +13

    Part of me was really hoping he'd save the tile next to the iron for an IZ - but the encampment was a solid decision without spending gold on a 3rd ring tile to put it one tile further out.

  • @RandomGuyTalking
    @RandomGuyTalking Рік тому +1

    6:23 "Do a little, yoinkage" is now my new favorite phrase! 😂😂😂😂

  • @hesseldekraai
    @hesseldekraai Рік тому +2

    26:57 wow you managed to bait another warrior with your builder?? You truly are a master baiter

  • @blaircfleming
    @blaircfleming Рік тому +8

    Nice Mesopotamian start - Sargon (Akkad), Hammurabi, and Gilgamesh! All that's missing is Civ 5's Ashurbanipal and you'd have the set!

  • @hakonandreasolaussen1949
    @hakonandreasolaussen1949 Рік тому +5

    Nere's Seven Seas is a map script tweak that makes seven seas, in my opinion, the absolute perfect balance between land and sea, with islands, lots of canal potential, etc

  • @Chris_Tootoo
    @Chris_Tootoo Рік тому +8

    In this episode of Civ 6, you get to see Potato’s Awkward Sausage.

  • @PeterR444
    @PeterR444 Рік тому +4

    With Akkad’s bonus you honestly don’t even need catapults anymore lol

  • @MalucoDaBomba
    @MalucoDaBomba Рік тому +1

    My man, I just wanted to say that I love your videos. I found your channel a few years ago and you were the one that got me into this kind of game, but I gave up on trying to learn it because it's just too complicated for me. It would take a lot of time and dedication to learn and I just don't have neither. I even watched your beginner series but it simply did not work! Despite that, it's always so much fun watching you play. Keep it up!

  • @FanFive5
    @FanFive5 Рік тому +1

    “A path of destruction is before us and we will leave the world burning in the wake of our footsteps” -Potato McWhiskey, 2023

  • @aaroncruze4638
    @aaroncruze4638 Рік тому +4

    These types of games are always my favorite to play.
    Mediterranean world's are so fun.

  • @peterkang6677
    @peterkang6677 3 місяці тому

    Potato: Akkad is eating up too much land, I would probably raize it
    Akkad: But I help melee units smash cities
    Potato: understandable have a nice day

  • @whydoievenneedone
    @whydoievenneedone Рік тому +1

    Potato (on Diety): 3 cities founded. and one of them lost in 17 turns.
    Me (on chieftan): It's turn 50 maybe I should found my second city, awww.... I got forward settled? better restart.

  • @smiegto
    @smiegto Рік тому +1

    lets build a militairy. procedes to turn all cities away from militairy. love your vids, what a classic.

  • @gungho8180
    @gungho8180 Рік тому +1

    Pretty sure Potato mostly always talks to himself like this...but I enjoy listening in on his thought processes. Learning from these vids gives me hope to stop my scum saving ways and finally play a true game of CIV VI! Thanks, Potato!

    • @pep_fof
      @pep_fof Рік тому +1

      this helps me with my self esteem so much, i talk to myself like this as well and always worry that im going insane or sth, then see this clearly well-off guy do the same thing and think yeah, im not crazy (or atleast not the only one) :)

  • @HoshoLegacy
    @HoshoLegacy Рік тому +1

    Been a while since I watched a potato video and I legit thought I had youtube set to 1.5x speed. Turns out he just talks that fast.

  • @woomy8971
    @woomy8971 Рік тому +1

    TSL mediterannean is one of my favorite maps! playing it on a very slow speed like marathon is pretty goofy too since the map is so big you have time to grow a lot in the early periods (as can the enemy civs)

  • @maxwelljohnson2588
    @maxwelljohnson2588 Рік тому

    Thanks!

  • @bigfudge2031
    @bigfudge2031 Рік тому

    Love the auto subtitles for the intro "Hey buddies Potato MC here"

  • @richy497
    @richy497 Рік тому +1

    Love to see a TSL start. Often I find that they're seen as annoying because of the clutter but it's cool to see you turning the machine of war to expand your empire in the early game

  • @Coconut-br3jt
    @Coconut-br3jt Рік тому +1

    I really thought I knew how to play civ but after watching your videos. I absolutely don't know how to play 😂

  • @BlobZ_AK
    @BlobZ_AK Рік тому +20

    I never clicked on a video faster before

  • @sirso8422
    @sirso8422 Рік тому

    Potato i watch all your civ 6 contents but, TBH with you what i enjoy the most is to watch you suffer through a game, that's my favorite. And yeah i know choice of content is brokem lmao..

  • @leshamas_
    @leshamas_ Рік тому

    Potato: wages double-front wars with two cities
    Meanwhile Didona: 6+ cities and chillin'

  • @msmith42001
    @msmith42001 Рік тому +1

    I always have issues with loyalty on cities I take. Even with my religion and a gov in place; I seem to lose a city a few times before I can keep it.

  • @andreasfery
    @andreasfery Рік тому

    fantastic video, really love the "against all odds" starts 🙂

  • @-KFirefly
    @-KFirefly Рік тому +6

    Love ya. Can’t wait till the next episode

  • @LazyVanny
    @LazyVanny Рік тому +3

    That is ALWAYS WHY I FRIEND GREG!
    He gets my back like a chad, and he got you as well. Good luck on this cramped start.

  • @BeastTheNinja
    @BeastTheNinja Рік тому

    I started playing this a year ago where I did the tutorial which took me 8 hours as I never understood I gave up on the game now watching it again seems easier to understand

  • @jdavis.fw303
    @jdavis.fw303 Рік тому +5

    Have you done a deity++ game yet? Ursa has done some of those and its amusing to see pros still struggle 😅

  • @andrewklang809
    @andrewklang809 Рік тому +2

    This video: Can't expand, can barely defend my own cities, having to deal with wave after wave and wave of troops. There is literally nothing else I can do except lose.
    Next video: My infantry can fire arrows with dynamite on them. Everyone else's walls are useless and I'm unstoppable.

  • @kowclipth727
    @kowclipth727 Рік тому

    dude Immortal + Akkad combo is so nasty and I love it

  • @Daisemiin
    @Daisemiin Рік тому

    I like you Potato. I just cant get excited about Civ VI. Its all so complicated listening to you and I dont understand it all and cant be bothered to learn this edition to the degree that you have, but I like your love of this game and how each game us different so keep watching. Have loved Civ since it first came out.

  • @gumbycat5226
    @gumbycat5226 Рік тому +1

    If I had been playing this, I would have put both those encampments one away from each enemy city centre. That way I could have fired on them endlessly and both cities would have been guaranteed to fall with minimum effort. The iron would be protected by the cities' fall. It's my lazy way of playing because, with the AI as an enemy, those cities are pretty much guaranteed to fall any way.

  • @wifeofanacrobat3654
    @wifeofanacrobat3654 Рік тому

    Walls in Susa will help a lot in iron mines protection

  • @marvinellis7221
    @marvinellis7221 Рік тому +1

    I know I'm late but you hurt me a little bit when you picked Victor and didn't take Defensive Logistics. So much more Iron

  • @IANF126
    @IANF126 Рік тому +1

    owls is my favorite of the societies

  • @psychorabbitt
    @psychorabbitt Рік тому +1

    Potato going to war with Babylon just... seems par for the course at this point.

  • @markescareno7584
    @markescareno7584 Рік тому

    Man I’d really love for you to go deep in the technical aspects of Humankind.

  • @eberlchl
    @eberlchl Рік тому

    Declaring surprise war on Georgia probably would have been the move for the movement since she was obviously going to war dec anyway

  • @gavinpower2020
    @gavinpower2020 Рік тому +1

    Thanks gilgabro

  • @1977Futre
    @1977Futre 4 місяці тому

    I would be having palpitations at the start you had. War all around you by tun 13. Cities falling, cities flipping. People settling in your backyard. Basically 3 opponents all squeezed together with seemingly no where to expand to. Not to mention the random warriors walking past your open city. Honestly, that's a reroll for me.

  • @Dutch_is_a_Weird_Language
    @Dutch_is_a_Weird_Language Рік тому

    I think I would have used a Governor title to recruit Amani and place her in Akkad. But holy crap that's a thight spot!

  • @hatchhermit77
    @hatchhermit77 Рік тому

    Georgians, Ottomans, Sumerians, Phoenicians : "Then we'll fight in the shade."

  • @Cat_vs_Jad
    @Cat_vs_Jad Рік тому

    Left clicking units is a setting you can toggle I think

  • @alexvenick8999
    @alexvenick8999 Рік тому +1

    Age of Wonder 4

  • @SoCoMss
    @SoCoMss Рік тому

    Troops in city give loyalty, that's why you didn't lose 2nd city

  • @dominickfekete3458
    @dominickfekete3458 Рік тому +1

    Ayyooo I've been waiting for you to upload

  • @grantshearer5615
    @grantshearer5615 Рік тому

    The thing I HATE about TSL Mediterranean is that there is a dirth of production. Almost every tile in Europe has 0 production

  • @willjolivette6800
    @willjolivette6800 Рік тому

    Potato suffering is good content ngl

  • @alexadamsky
    @alexadamsky Рік тому

    This looks like a really fun game

  • @hanksoandso8778
    @hanksoandso8778 Рік тому

    Thanks For the vids Potato!

  • @TooniverseCentrum
    @TooniverseCentrum Рік тому

    Does setting Abundant Resources (in Settings) actually affect Ley Lines from Hermetic Order?

  • @danielberger1176
    @danielberger1176 Рік тому

    fitting that while playing persia, you're located in the east. making war against the west. reminiscent of 300.

  • @wifeofanacrobat3654
    @wifeofanacrobat3654 Рік тому

    Regarding maps, i'd suggest to try maps from Alternate Cartography mod like Fjord, Boreal etc

  • @TrevorHoelting
    @TrevorHoelting Рік тому

    What an ending 😊

  • @Slokingseba
    @Slokingseba Рік тому

    I look forward to the games so much man

  • @Newvirtues
    @Newvirtues 11 місяців тому

    I'm listening at 0.75 speed because you speak so fast. It helps me keep up. I tried half speed, but it makes you sound drunk...

  • @nowtherearetwo404
    @nowtherearetwo404 Рік тому

    Can you still get achivements with the mods you use?

  • @dankebabco134
    @dankebabco134 Рік тому

    Why not settle on the dyes??

  • @samueltrusik3251
    @samueltrusik3251 Рік тому

    Oh boy, I LOVE when you suffer! More, please!

  • @MrOpc51
    @MrOpc51 Рік тому

    Potato! When you play Civ I play Civ!

  • @1977Futre
    @1977Futre 4 місяці тому

    How did that CS appear? Surely there wasn't time for it to become one.

  • @troyjacobs8530
    @troyjacobs8530 Рік тому

    Didn't even look at my other watch recommendations

  • @seattlekarim964
    @seattlekarim964 Рік тому

    Yes! TSL is so difficult

  • @maxkirk944
    @maxkirk944 Рік тому

    Love tsl nice to see it

  • @raymondgreen9379
    @raymondgreen9379 Рік тому

    Where would someone DL map scripts from?

  • @TrippyDonut193
    @TrippyDonut193 Рік тому

    Me hearing “let’s chop out this stone”: 🥴

  • @Sp4rt4nSl4ya
    @Sp4rt4nSl4ya Рік тому

    Hey potato!
    Pairidaez nuts!

  • @drjonritz
    @drjonritz Рік тому +1

    Akkad is super helpful for taking cities...very lucky to spawn next to it.

    • @helltanuki
      @helltanuki Рік тому

      Well, in this case, it's Akkad that spawned next to him haha.

  • @BegaMetaZone
    @BegaMetaZone 8 місяців тому

    Pasar-god , Suza , Pardis ( Paradise ) , more Persia games pls , thank u

  • @AUTvillacherboyAUT
    @AUTvillacherboyAUT Рік тому +4

    damn clicked faster than a junky

  • @WlatPziupp
    @WlatPziupp Рік тому

    Left clicking doing the same as right clicking some times is the most annoying thing in this game. If I wanted to right click I would have right clicked

  • @nubifix
    @nubifix Рік тому

    Cant wait to see this war =D

  • @pharaohmedjaylawofmedjay2680

    He Loves Potatoes 😂😂

  • @nickfromtipp
    @nickfromtipp Рік тому

    Bring it on 🗡

  • @bitsa94
    @bitsa94 Рік тому

    Hey @potato! Long time fan first time commenter. Would you ever consider doing a zombie defence game?

  • @carrandgillfamily8901
    @carrandgillfamily8901 Рік тому

    12:59 It would be fun if in Civ 7 there was a mechanic for you to use a military unit (like your slinger there) to capture a settler or builder without having to declare a full war. Perhaps in the response there's a way for the other civ to declare a retaliation war, and maybe their chances of knowing who took their civilian unit is based on their own espionage skill level and diplomatic knowledge (or whatever system is in place).

    • @T0tenkampf
      @T0tenkampf Рік тому +3

      seems unrealistic, in what world would a leader allow civilians to be enslaved without retaliation?

    • @carrandgillfamily8901
      @carrandgillfamily8901 Рік тому

      Think of it like an abduction, it's a clandestine operation, it's secret. Perhaps like siphoning gold works, there's a dice roll involved. When not at war, each time you have a military unit move onto a foreign settler or builder, a warning screen could pop up and indicate the chance of success, perhaps a dice roll based on each of the civ's related tech or civics. If you win, you get the unit, if not, the opposing civ is alerted to the abduction and has a chance to formally accuse you of the theft (on the world stage, it could trigger an emergency, but if no one else joins it the emergency can still go through, just it'll be a 1 on 1 emergency. Idk, maybe it's overpowered, maybe it's stupid. But it'd be fun, I think. @@T0tenkampf

    • @JakoBvB94
      @JakoBvB94 Рік тому

      @@T0tenkampf in a world where they dont know who took the civilians, and they can still decide to retaliate. Warfare always has been information warfare, and people getting abducted into slavery was (sadly) part of the ancient and classical reality

  • @chrisbarr1990
    @chrisbarr1990 10 місяців тому

    Shameless old world undo move plug ; P

  • @internalfugue16
    @internalfugue16 Рік тому

    ooooh this is so exciting!

  • @FiauraTheTankGirlGamer
    @FiauraTheTankGirlGamer Рік тому

    Can you play an unmodded game on Epic and show us how to do a slower paced game?

  • @Blandge
    @Blandge Рік тому

    Why don't you ever go for Diplo or Religious victory?
    I would love to see one

  • @andrewnewell8217
    @andrewnewell8217 Рік тому

    When Babylon settles Kutaisi, the game looked like a total mess. I’d have given up in disgust. Marvelous to see how Potato turns it around.

  • @ClockworkOuroborous
    @ClockworkOuroborous Рік тому +1

    Commenting to feed the algorithm gods

    • @zoulogist9171
      @zoulogist9171 13 днів тому

      @@ClockworkOuroborous Algorithm for the algorithm god!

  • @philmo9667
    @philmo9667 Рік тому

    Turns out early churn is a thing ...

  • @trolley7947
    @trolley7947 Рік тому

    How does Babylon have 3 cities in 12 turns?

  • @RobertR19
    @RobertR19 Рік тому

    It's so ugly!!! I LOVE IT!

  • @GeneralOdium
    @GeneralOdium Рік тому

    How TF the AI have three cities in 9 turns?!?

  • @nitricoxidegod
    @nitricoxidegod Рік тому

    🎉

  • @T0tenkampf
    @T0tenkampf Рік тому

    Is there a game with more replay value than Civ6? So tired of games with tons of upgrades that you have to buy separately when they should have been in the base game.

  • @edwardcollins8102
    @edwardcollins8102 Рік тому

    Hey Potato. I have a challenge for you. Win a diplomatic victory. That's it. You can do that right? When's the last time you DID a diplomatic win series? It's all been boring cultural victories with maybe the occasional exception of science. Hell, a domination victory seems to fallen off as well. But let's face it, you seem to avoid religious and diplomatic victories like the plague. And I get not being a fan of religious victories. But you've done more of them than you've done Diplomatic victories. Can you even NAME the last series that was a diplomatic victory?