What's Next for Evernote?
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- Evernote has made some interesting tier subscription changes recently, along with their new look, here's where I think Evernote is heading in 2024. Join Tool Digest: toolfinder.beehiiv.com/subscribe
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00:00 - Where is Evernote heading?
00:52 - 14 Features Changes
01:50 - Pricing & Subscription Changes
03:45 - The New Evernote Look
05:10 - Bending Spoons Apps
06:30 - Predictions for AI & Mobile
07:10 - Summary
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In a world where there's now Obsidian, Notion, Upnote, and a hundred other alternatives available, Evernote acts like it's still 2010 and they don't have competition.
I kinda agree, but part of me wants to believe that now that Bending Spoons is closer to fixing the backend and making all the stuff under the hood work better, they can leap ahead others with how AI functionality gets integrated into the notes experience.
I have been disappointed with Evernote so many times, for so many years, that the hopes are pretty low. But hey, it’s a possibility at least.
standard notes, joplin notes, simplenotes, keep notes, onenotes, to name a more few which I use.
Exactly!
You‘re repeating bullshit. Bending Spoons is rocketing Evernote into new spheres. Wait and sea!
@@stefanhoffmann2353 wow so much hate! Get over it, it is just shitty app falling apart 3 years already
Once this subscription cycle is over I’m deleting that account. The amount they charge for what you get is RIDICULOUS.
I could not stomach paying more for Evernote than I pay for all applications under Microsoft's Office 365. Especially when my use cases are so simple. If they had kept a tier between Free and the new Personal tier, and priced it at the old Personal tier rate, I might have stayed. And I was a 12 year paying subscriber. They could have brought me along, but the near doubling in price killed Evernote for me based on the simple use cases I was utilizing. (I could not justify paying nearly double for no added value in my use cases.)
Ridiculous price. I have been a subscriber since it's biggining. No more!
The 50 notes and 1 notebook limitation in the free plan is a firm no for me. I’ll stick with Notion and use the money for Notion AI.
Indeed. I had 50 notes a few years ago. Now I couldn’t imagine being limited to such a low amount. You’d have to basically not use your notes app at all at that point. But if that’s the case - Google Keep and Apple Notes is all you need.
@@migueltoledo1884Exactly. Notes and folders / notebooks are just a basic necessity of any note taking app. Actually a bit surprised anyone is actually making a big deal about the new pricing. Also, Evernote has had a makeover for sure, but it’s still WAY behind other note taking and task apps. Not sure who’s actually paying for it these days other than fans.
Using Evernote since 2011 and i always got what i needed, a Note taking App. I stored all my personal and professional notes. Yes sometimes it was a little slow. But we are talking about seconds. Never lost a note. So all the last changes told me that i did good not changing to other apps.
I was an Evernote user since late 2010 and a paid user from 2012 - 2018, but honestly it has been such a huge sh.. show, I require waaay more proof before even considering the switch. A new coat of paint is not enough at this point.
Well-said, it’s been >5 years since you walk away, in technological terms, they have ALOT and a mountain of delivery to do in the least, showing how they’ve caught up and perhaps exceeded the competition in their own niche space in all that time, BEFORE they can even try to aggressively price their way into people’s hearts n minds again. But perhaps their goal is to convince a new generation (Gen 00?) of users and pretend legacy users have walked away and left the chat 😂
They redesigned the elephant...
The thing he didn't say is - that personal now includes Create up to 100,000 notes & 1,000 notebooks
10 GB monthly uploads
200 MB max. note size i.e. way more space
I have almost 10k notes. Hope the experience does keep getting better since I am so deep in.
The fifth in a series of 'What's next for Evernote?' videos from Francesco...
😜 They need to stop doing things
@@keepproductive Ha ha. I think that train has left. Smaller, more nimble companies are doing the innovating now.
@@impulsesystemsI’m curious - who is innovating? Obsidian? Nothing new really there except its sheer complexity! Notion? Again a complex mess! Capacities? Again a massive learning curve.
Actual innovation there is little, ever more complex systems there is an abundance.
Maybe in 2024 innovation is simplicity.
@@willb5548 You're right: complexity, for the sake of it, isn't what I want. Heptabase is not like the others; make it as complex as you want.
It took Evernote several years to introduce a third level of the hierarchy. To me [an older guy], many younger people don't seem to want organization [like a file/directory or notes/notebook hierarchy] when they can just search or use tags.
@@willb5548well put.
Still a Professional user, and was using Evernote since 2009. With all the changes, have started using Twos, which is free and reflect which I love for their AI capabilities (specially voice transcription), that I do not believe will renew my account any longer. Too sad, but I believe it has taken a very long time to get back in the game.
Ai search is bugged atm. The previous search engine worked waaay better before the update. Now it can't find a word I have right in front of my eyes
The removal of visual contrast between the sidebar and the notes is terrible. The fact that this cannot be customized is asinine at best. It’s not an improvement.
I've seen a couple of references to the "new look" of Evernote, and from what I've seen on the videos, it does look like an improvement. I saw it referenced that Evernote would start rolling it out Jan 15th. However, that new look has yet to show up in my version. Is there something I need to do to toggle it? It feels like if they started rolling it out a month ago, I should have had it by now.
I believe it's still in a rollout but there's an email you would get that had a link which would give you the new UI
I have been using Evernote since 2009, and I am waiting before leaving them. If they finally add the option to create subfolders, then I will stay, otherwise, in 2024, I will switch to Joplin.
You don’t need subfolders. You just need to start using tags as a main structure and elminite too much folders. Also don’t switch to Joplin. It is a dead-end. Slow, ugly, weak webclipper.
Peace ✌️
@@daliboroslav Tags are not for organizing, but for finding. It's not the same thing. It's great if you can be productive that way. For me, it's impossible. I organize my documents in a folder; I don't need to see them popping up again. As for Joplin, it suits me.
I think your hypothesis will pan out - Evernote goes into the daily planner/calendar space. It's peculiar that their 'tasks' feature has some functionality, but doesn't have any external APIs for external consumption. Gives me the impression that they're keeping that data internal to do more with it in the coming months.
I always appreciate an Evernote video, always learn something. I had cancelled my plan, though I like the direction that Bending Spoons is going with the product.
Would you agree that Evernote might be good to stay on for the personal part of it. (I have today the $10,83 per month annually payment plan) And then to switch the work-related notes, strategies, online course notes etc over to another more robust application? In that case, would you typically advice to look at Notion, Anytype, Capacity or something else?
Does it finally allow using Windows Polish keyboard? Or allows you to disable Evernote shortcuts globally? There has been a problem with using national characters and Evernote's shortcuts for years. US International keyboard also had same issue...
Interesting! Personally, I've left Evernote this month after 13 years or use. I had sync issues with work, and despite the wonderful Web Clipper, found it just wasn't worth a tenner a month. That said, I'll be keeping my eye on the old fella and hope the product is still around for many years to come.
People talk about how expensive it is, but it works out at around $3 / week which won't even buy a single coffee. For me, is is excellent value.
Still evernote payed user for
- best web clipper
- integration with many apps
- best pdf support - can set to display only title or the content
- on mobile can decide what's online/offline
- dont care about AI
- It costs me less than obsidian synchronization service
Though I hate search, also it's quite slow and sometimes I'm have doubts if content is stored locally
Tried allmost all the note app. Love logseq search and backlinks and how easy I can create new tags/pages
Web clipper was the best decision they ever made
Use the web clipper all the time and very good. The new multi-select option is good but a bit limited to specific page blocks. Amplenote has a better clipper in this regard as you can multi-select exactly what you want. But then it doesn't capture the URL of the page so no system is perfect
Yeah...clipper is marginally the best I've seen. I still use Onenote clipper when I want better text formatting to paste directly into word and save as a nice and tidy pdf document.
Francesco, This is a good slant on the changes in the paid plans. Much better than how it came across in the market. I still believe that I might have stayed with Evernote rather than leaving after 12 paid years as a subscriber, if there had been a plan closer to my expected budget and still handling my use cases. Instead the plan nearly doubled and provided me features I don't utilize at all. A plan in between the new improved personal plan and the free plan could have shifted free users to paid and kept paying subscribers like me who did not want to pay nearly double the price as last year.
Exactly this. I've been a user since 2011 and a paid user for most of that. But when the price nearly doubled this year I have to find something else.
Absolutely.....something around 5 bucks a month could have been good value to me being a very light user. Switched to UpNote for 30 bucks lifetime.
The calendar integration on the iOS apps is a pain in the ass. Why on earth don’t they have a day picker or a monthly overview? If I want to add a note to a calendar entry months away I simply can’t do it without swiping through the days. Or am I doing something wrong?
They should've done this from the start. It's great they finally did this after the mass exodus of paid users this year but I already switched to Zoho
Thank you for this video, I was on the fence whether to stay with Evernote after the price jump.. your explanation convinced me to stay with the app i love.
I just don't care about the AI
more stack layers on notebooks, better thunbnail image selection. Very annoying not able to idetify a note with an specific image but this thing makes it own selection. This tool could be much much better for the price they charge.
Loving the new features, completely worth the money! Thanks for this
Great video as always. Thank you. I have no need for any AI integration into my Evernote workflow. As a user since 2009 I think I will be migrating away from Evernote when my subscription expires. I completely understand a subscription fee, but the cost has just gotten too high relative to my usage.
I am so happy I stayed on Evernote with the useful inprovements. Evernote still have the best webclipper ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Why would someone still use Evernote is beyond my understanding. I left EN back in 2015 and I am happy with the decision I made!
We just don’t care
It'll become a personal productivity life coach. You'll be able to subscribe for $399/499 a year a get AI that will help you figure out how to plan your day and make additional accommodations if you have ADHD or such.
I follow your channel and your advice, so I have not used Evernote yet, so I will give it a try. I use Amplenote to take my notes now. Thank you
14 features that have become free and a new design are good, but it's unlikely that evernote will be very popular, the biggest drawback is the limitations.
I have been moving my notes to Notion and only took Evernote for one more year when they offered 1/2 price for the year so I don't have to rush to transfer my notes. But as far as I am concerned... Evernote is dead to me. Because obviously Bending Spoons is just 3 people and the rest are robots running the place and customer service is not their game. Over Priced for offering not much more. and then Nickel and Diming the users that still exist.
Personal is definitely better value. It looks good , feels clean , and is working well. Ive stuck with it over the past few years, and am pleased to have done so! Bending Spoons today secured large new investment! 😁🕸
I will only use Evernote if they lower their prices. So many note taking applications nowadays have most features for free. Then you upgrade if you want more collaborative features.
The new look is fine, but I was more impressed to see that its Performance has improved many-fold. Wow!
I've been using it (paid) since nearlythe beginning.
It worked beautifully for years. But then I've been used to their systems getting slower and clunkier with almost every "upgrade."
But to see it suddenly working so smoothly and efficiently was a pleasant surprise.
I know some seniors who use the Free version though. It's that unfortunate this might limit their usability.
I've been with Evernote since November 8th, 2009, and I've stuck with them through thick and thin. Raising my annual subscription from US$69.99 to US$129.99 - a dime less than my rent - is a pill I can't afford to swallow. I appreciate this video for what it is, but I'm switching before I lose everything. Say Goodbye To Evernote? You bet your bottom dollar I am.
Obsidian is offline and let's you import Evernote exports!
I’m one of the old users they want to go away. I did it, and only good things happened.
I've stayed and happy with the situation (often think it is more about using whatever platform you use effectively). What did you move to out of interest?
@@llicit1833 Obsidian initially. It made think about notes and PKM in a different way. But I also wanted to unify my tasks in a same place (I was using Things, before I used Todoist). To unify notes and tasks I tested many options and I discovered Amplenote. With backlinks, tags and powerful task management, I now have what I was looking for.
But that’s in the professional field, I’m still not sure what to do with my personal notes.
Honestly, nothing you can’t do on Onenote, which to me is their biggest competitor since i don’t think Notion or Obsidian users are really the target here. On one side you have Onenote, totally free and full of function, but yet, completely neglected by Microsoft, on the other hand Evernote is unusable on the free plan, but full of really useful function inside the app like calendar and tasks while microsoft only tries to make you use the whole suite to get every single function
Evernote may as well give up. There are too many alternatives and the company killed any good feelings users had about it. The new owners have just made it worse.
Does it mean, Evernote got an adrenaline shot 😂
I see 0 reasons why a video software company, if I got that correctly?, should be predestined to develop the next note taking/document management/planning or whatever app. also all note taking apps evolve into greater functionality i.e. planners, task mgt etc. that will not be a unique thing about Evernote
I never got to launch with Evernote because Free was so shit it never converted me to a paying customer. Other note taking apps did. So these changes should make a difference, and I am keeping an eye on how it evolves because I am currently on the lookout for a change, for reasons.
Who cares. Compared to the likes of Capacities and Anytype, Evernote is a dinosaur.
Had a quick look at both of those and Capacities (at first blush) looks a bit complex. I guess horses for course - I quite like the relative simplicity of Evernote
I don't use Evernote since 2020. Before 2020 Evernote was my day to day and most beloved app but now 😑👎🏻
I've persisted (using for perhaps a decade) and it did hit a bit of a speed bump for a while there, but now I find it fine again
Sorry, but Evernote had its moment in the sun and blew it. Good riddance.
"Create up to 100.000 notes." I mean... what hell is that about.. 500.000 notes... does it really mean, you can't have 500.001 notes? There is no noteapp on the world that has this ridiculous weird selling point of you can have this much notes, especially when you pay for it. It is that crazy way of thinking that I stopped using evernote, although I still think it is a great app. It has been hi-jacked by Uri Geller and put on a weird subscription pedestal.
No buy buy, but bye bye for me.
Deleted & unsubscribed paid customer; transferred my info to Apple Notes. Too late!!
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Another Evernote video??? Hard pass... Skip! It's junk! Leave it there...
It is a very reliable application, and the price is fair, but our work has changed. We work differently today than 20 years ago, and Evernote needs to be modernized better. They need to implement better integrations, add functionality to write with other languages, etc. As for AI, we are at the beginning of a new era, but it is far from being really usable these days.
evernote is extremely expensive. They are a disappointment because of their prices. They are money hungry and keep telling me to upgrade. Just shows how they are like.
Wasted many ppls patience and time. will never return, apple notes is running way ahead now!
Continuing “improvements” that nobody wants and makes the app far less useable. Member since 2009 and cancelling my subscription now.
Much better take than previous. Free users are absolutely free loaders and now that cheap money is gone, they had to cut the fat. No service wants free users unless they can monetize them in another way, e.g. ads or selling their data (e.g. robinhood)
I was a paying user for 12 years. They pushed me away with the near doubling in price. They did not provide a tier to my expected ROI value. And AI is simply not adding any value to my use-cases. Most notably, they have lost my trust by not providing me a tier that was priced to my usage-level into which I could slide into.
If rather eat avocado toast than pay for Evernote.