Is it Okay to Wear a Bikini?: Jackie Francois on Modesty
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- In this new Life Teen video, Jackie Francois addresses the question of whether or not it's okay to wear a bikini this Summer. And it's not just a yes or no answer. It's all about how you, as a woman, want other people to view you -- as a whole person or just attractive body parts.
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As a man I can honestly say that every man on this planet, deep down inside wants a decent woman of good character and moral values as his wife.
Amen! Christians are to behave reverently. It's a disgrace for a woman to not care how she presents herself.
Nah. I mean sometimes I just want a thot for the night
I wouldn't want my dads friends to see me in a leotard either..
Annie Bee lmao same
As a man who values ethics, integrity, character, morals and modesty you are saying everything i wanted to say but just because of the fear of being called misogynist, patriarchal, rudimentary, sexist i couldn't say any of these things. Now I will just share this video with that person. Thankyou for conveying our point of view in a very good way. More and more respect to woman like you.♥
Thank you for this! Can't wait to share it with my Endow group of teens,
God bless you and your ministry!
Agreed!!! Love this video!
“Say no to crack here... and back here”
*I died*
As a male I have seen bikinis that were more modest than some one piece swimsuits
This is soo good! Thank you sister for this truth filled video! And the reminder of God's amazing love❤❤
I'm still very confused about religion but when people like her say "my sisters" I get so touched aw and I totally agree!
It's not about religion, it's about God
@@eduardodias983Religion is how you have a relationship with God though.
Great video and great advice. Loved this video!
I know it's not my place here as a muslim to say this (please don't bully me): as a human with different faith, i support all people with any religion or no religion to dress modestly. Spread love not hate
genuine question - why do you believe Islam is true?
@@conquer0246 Because Islam is the only truth, others are man-made not divine & full of fallacies
Thank you for your input
@@vehement-critic_q8957 if that were true, why does the Quran claim the bible is true?
@@rebn8346 The Bible WAS true, but then it has been corruupted. Full of logical fallacies & chronological contradictions
I love your outfit in this video! where'd you get that necklace?
Thank you so much Jackie! :)
I love this!❤Thank you
What makes a woman's stomach more sexual than a man's?
well if you're looking at it from a Christian perspective, God shows us in the bible that men view sexual nature differently than women, and women view it differently than men. A man could simply be seduced by the sight of a woman's exposed torso at the beach, while women don't see it the same way naturally, we as woman naturally feel lust by ways other than sight, we feel it more from emotions. While men, on the other hand, lust over women by sight, which is why modesty is important as Christian women. It's all the chemistry of the man and women's brains and how they contrast.
same reason why a woman should cover her neck and whole legs-sexual arousal/physical sexual sensation area of men doesn't go above the navel or below the knees
Smol Bean Rosie where in the bible??
Smol Bean Rosie Well unless they're gay, if they are gay then they will be way more interested in a man's chest
nothing. Men should be modest too.
Well said Jackie! Thank you.
Absolute beautiful message
I don't think she's forcing anyone. Yet I agree as a teenager. Causing temptation would just be like Eve handing out the apple to Adam. She just intended to get something that she thought was good for her, but didn't think of the problems it will cause. And we know how vulnerable we are. Would it not be just for the best, if we help our brothers and sisters to keep away from sin? :))) God Love you
Wow never thought of it this way
You are very intelligent 😊🤗
It's definitely as wonderful side effects of modesty. You are innocent when a man or a woman chooses to sin, and you aren't an accessory.
Eve handed the apple to Adam, but the first person she ignored was God. Adam took the apple, and the first person he blamed was God.
Modesty is an interior disposition of the heart, would it not make sense to be focused on God honor and her dignity first?
I hate how these people assume women dress a certain way to attract guys. Did it maybe occur to you that it's 100 degrees outside and I'm not about to go out in what you consider "modest" clothing and sweat my ass off?
preach!!
Modest clothing moderates body temperature better.
in 80-150F modesty adds to comfort rather than taking from it.
Thank you for sharing your GODLY WISDOM!!! You have such GREAT talent! I love your videos! And I thank you so very much for standing Righteously in this world~ I am praying for you that God Blesses you ABUNDANTLY in all ways dear sister in Christ. Hugs
Amen Sister! Makes us think twice " You're a whole person!" and not just body parts.
Thanks so much! You are beautiful inside and out!
Nicely said!!!💖
nicely put.
As for me I'd feel uncomfortable if my family saw me walking in a swimsuit in a kitchen well.. But it is feels completely different when being on the beach, swimming pools and places like this. That doesn't need to mean that we want to seek males attention
Swimming in NO WAY sanctifies public.... NEAR NUDITY! And that goes for both women & men! It's 100% against Holy Scripture!!
@@websurfin9575 way to engage
I tried wearing a swimming shirt in the water and I gotta say it was harder to swim in because it weighed me down. So I took it off while under water and tried putting it on when I got out but its so hard to put it back on when its wet. Then I was just like this hassel isnt worth it. People dont just wear bathing suits to show off, they wear them because theres practical reasons to it.
Where there is a will there's a way
@@seyiomonigho9894 If you have an idea that would be more helpful then a random saying.
@@npistor2878 well sorry if you thought that was random
wat I simply meant was if you want to, there's other way around it may be difficult to but you can
- if you know anyone that can sew that could help
@@seyiomonigho9894 I have 2 peice bathing suits that are already comfortable it's just a matter of feeling confident in my own skin
@@npistor2878 And you will be dear.. just start with the mind 😊
And you look beautiful by the way ❤️
Very nicely done!
Love your messages, modesty is not just for women. Men can also be modest in clothing 🤫
Agreed.
You look Indian btq 👐
What about guys? I play water polo and so I'm used to wearing a speedo. They dry faster and are excellent for swimming. I wear them to the beach and am perfectly comfortable in them
Is it modest?
It's a man's bathing suit fit for swimming well. You can't swim as well in board shorts.
He is totally right! Greetings from Peru!!!
thank you for this video
PREACH SISSS!!
God bless you sister!
Great...Keep going.
You are speaking my mind lady.
Thank you for guiding us women to the right path
I know that most women won't follow you but there are women like me who need inspiration from people like you.
Please keep posting more videos.
Amen...THANK YOU!
Ok I seriously want a one piece but they're so stricken expensive. Either its a 10 dollar bikini or 30 dollar one piece or even more than just that. I'm still looking for a one piece though!
Wal Mart! :D haha :)
As a Muslim I absolutely stand behind your message.
As a Christian I stand by her message too
As a man I don't , LOL
Christy Crouse
As a human being I'm completely against Islamic ideology.
Thomas Comerford you forget to say as a stupid human being ..
ryan aj
So being against polygamous ideology is stupid? How about being against offensive jihad? Or maybe marrying girls when they're six? Lastly, maybe it's just stupid to be against domestic violence being mandated to adherents of the ideology? Perhaps a combination of them?
At the end of the day this is why the Church has always been against the false pseudo-religion known as Islam. But then again, I doubt you're a Catholic, if you are, you're probably a lukewarm Catholic who knows very little about their faith.
This is soo nice 👌
Okay, I don't know if I agree or disagree with you. You make some fair points but
a) modest people can still be objectified. It's the people who objectify them that should change.
b)attention is not the only reason why people want to wear bikini. It's comfortable and beautiful.
c)people don't need to justify reasons for doing things. at least not to you. they would only be doing so because you are judging them. but who grants you the power to judge over anyone?
that is a great way of suming it up
As a guy, I avoid wearing speedos at the beach so I don’t cause my sisters in Christ to stumble. 😉
Amen Brother Christopher!
Speedos should disappear from the face of earth forever 😀
@@calidag Along with bikinis & most other "swimming" attire!
Lovely logic 👍🙂
i am working on a documentary about modesty i appreciate if i can have an interview with you
Did it work out? Would love to see it
the lady: Everyone wants to be known!
Me: No, no we don't
When she says known, it means more to be understood and invited in. It’s more of a communion with someone’s heart more then like a fame kind of known. I hope that makes sense.
It’s a very good video
Jackie you are a beautiful example of what a christian woman should look like. I am so glad you made this video about covering your body parts and not wanting to be noticed for your sexuality but for your whole self and inside. It is very sad the way the world is walking around so naked and attracting men for the wrong reasons. It is shallow and empty and when the sex is over for them what is left? Did they even ever get to know the real person or did their sexual desire get in the way of truly getting to know the other person. Thank you Jackie and God bless and use you to point out the truth to this new generation of believers!!!
+Camille Voutour Nudity or semi nudity does not make you a lesser person in the eyes of god. God will judge you by your acts of kindness to others, not what you wear. Modesty is unhealthy in hot weather, and dirty and unhygienic. The skin needs sunlight for health and vitality.
@@richardsandwell2285 Christians are to behave reverently. It's a disgrace for a woman to not care how she presents herself.
wow beautiful speech i wish girl listen and understand beauty is inside
Want admiration, popularity, etc.? Be a blessing to others. Treat people the way you want to be treated. Be compassionate, loving, selfless.
Modest is hottest🔥🔥
YAAAAS!!!
Think it comes down to preference
*There are two types of modesty: Spiritual and physical*
*The Spiritual aspect is true 1000% and is made perfectly clear all throughout the Bible. It shows in the way we act and treat one another. It's what we carry in our hearts and minds and spirits. This is what God cares about and what we should be striving towards.*
*Physical modesty is a lie. It's nothing but a man made ideology designed to manipulate and control one another due to our lust for power. It's based on ignorance and our lack of understanding of what our bodies truly represent. This has no basis in the Bible or science.*
then....what do we wear to the beach??
Stormtrooper Uniform
+FManAngryAmerican
Oh my goodness lol
rash guards FTW
A burka apparently lmao
Love from India
Holiness is not for wimps and the cross is not negotiable, sweetheart, it's a requirement."
Mother Angelica🙏🏽
I agree with this topics
It's a totally different context like if I was having a pool party and my dad was playing poker with his guy friends inside and I would not be uncomfortable to grab a soda or whatever in my bikini
Amen to that and to be honest pre teens teenagers adult's women need to be modist and I was wondering if you could do a video should godly women wearr leggings yoga pants also dress that to revling
I think a good rule may not work in all cases but in meny cases. When I worked with teens I just said what if your grandma was wearing what ever the clothing or lack there of. If it would seem odd or weird then I say it's odd and weird for you as well.
I’m not even allowed to wear a swim suit without shorts !
Same 😑
Statistically speaking, most of the times when a guy lusts after a woman, she's fully clothed. Maybe we should outlaw clothes (or just don't try blaming bikinis) ;)
+909955847736 kids are crazy for sugar, but that's alright we just let a cup full of candy on the table. (they like candy anyways)
She's looking at this from a religious and empowered perspective, but it's clear that there are commenters here just getting on the defense for the hell of it.
Just for a moment it's nice to hear from a women who doesn't think getting naked=empowerment. It comes in all forms, and this is her way. I'm not even Christian, I am also a feminist, and I know the biggest pressures to wear a bikini come from my peers and pop-culture. So power to her because if I had it my way, I'd swim in a T-shirt and shorts.
Well...tshirts aren't that modest once wet. Lol
But many use shorts and sports tops when they can't find anything that upholds thier dignity and God's honor.
If you love God more then you fear others opinions...then in your security of self worth, how can anyone stop you?
@@rebn8346 what do you mean how can anyone stop me from what?
@@sanchitasarkar7839 see your last line on your first post.
@@rebn8346 I don't remember writing this comment actually. It was so long ago, and I don't agree with this video anymore. She makes weird points and tries to shift blame onto teenage girls instead of the adult men she's talking about. Just more purity culture bullshit that I'm glad to have outgrown.
@@sanchitasarkar7839 oh that's not the intent. See her original video on modesty. And Lily, the new girl, and then tell me who is responsible.
There is a difference between being responsible and being an accessory...even courts of law hold that up.
Since clothing is a language...
This video is awesome!!
Love from a niquabi muslim :)
Amb...Kro i dont think you are ..
What gets me is that these tools always talk as though THIS applies ONLY TO WOMEN. What about MEN who go shirtless or wear trunks or speedos? Oh, and my understanding about BIBLICAL MODESTY is that it actually has more to do with OVERDRESSING - like wearing "broided hair, gold, pearls and costly array" ( Timothy 2:9 ).
Biblically speaking; modest apparel is preached in 1st Timothy 2:9. Modesty in tudor~stuart era english meant not Lewd, bold, forward, or freely exposed.
And Lewd means "Given to the unlawful indulgence of lust; addicted to fornication or adultery; dissolute; lustful; libidinous." It's clear that a bikini replicates that of a bra + underwear in the modern ages. It can be shown to be a bold, and forward choice of a wardrobe even in its social norm environment (at the beach). It also gives indulgence (influences) to lust, more than most.
Therefore by definition of Hebrew, Greek, and English and it's social placement comparing its evolution and purpose. I wouldn't consider it modest. Especially since most wear it to show off their body, or to allure the eyes of men.
(I mean I feel comfortable in my underwear, but I don't go outside in them)
@@atari_hmb
But the Bible itself doesn't say not to wear a bikini, or not to wear a bra and underwear. Modesty in the Bible is clearly about overdressing, not underdressing.
Just to be clear, do you think it should be illegal for women to wear bikinis or do you just think it's wrong from a Christian perspective?
Modesty is very much about keeping clothes on properly. The other things too but we dress for God everyday not others. The standards are His if He has our heart v
@Cardboard Cape
Where does The Bible say that women who wear bikinis must be put in jail?
@Cardboard Cape
Okay, so then, why does it need to be a crime then?
I love you already 😍
I speak as a man, Christian, Minister...I'm also a professional photographer. Lust is not caused by what we see but how we respond to what we see, male or female. It's an issue mostly of the mind. If it is that men automatically lust seeing a woman nude or partially nude then Christian men should never become doctors especially Gynecologists; please don't tell me that doctors are professionals and hence it's okay for them to see women naked since it's their profession, they are still men unless they are not naturally attracted to women. Being a doctor doesn't stop a man's natural attraction to the opposite sex. Sadly many docs do lust at and even sexually seduce patients. Why? because of their mind. So my point is that if seeing a woman in bikini is sinful so is seeing her in underwear in an examination room sinful if it'ts true here it must be true there too. As a photographer yes I've seen and photographed many women in bikini, when I do weddings some brides want to be photographed getting dressed. I have discovered that my attitude around them makes a big difference because I do not stare or make any sexually suggestive comment. In fact I don't lust, I focus and concentrate on my job.
Also bear in mind it us true that many women who are fully clothed gets raped, so the real issue is about the sexualization in our western culture of the body and how each of us choose to think. Interestingly if wearing bikini is wrong especially for Christian women the athletes should also cover up, In fact if it's a sin it's so for Christians and non Christians alike. For Christians allow the Holy Spirit to lead you listen to Him if He has an issue about what you wear He'll let you know.
Thank you for clearing all of this up. My family is Mormon and I have to go to all the events including church every week. When I learned right from wrong they created a bunch of side things like what to wear and how it's bad to wear sleeveless tops. I thought it was ok to judge the people who did that. When I got older I had an event right after church where I had to wear this particular dress that just happened to be sleeveless so I also wore it to church and I could feel all of the glares from everyone it was so uncomfortable. I now believe that it's not what you wear but why you wear it.
The Holy Spirit will let us know for sure and we will keep learning and growing at it. I hope we all try not hinder anyone at all for any attempt at modesty. It’s so precious and under attack these days.
Jesus I love you. I belong to you. You are my concern.
While one can't sinfully lust without a depraved heart, it is much easier or more likely when looking at an immodestly dressed woman. One can't control one's thoughts, nor can a person fully control his emotions (and certainly not certain movements of their body). One CAN control what one chooses to wear. I know for a fact that during a brief period in my life, I had a time where it seemed like my body's proclivity to lust was diminished. It was when I was working for a city service department during the summer where probably 95 percent of the department was composed of men. (I am a man.)
Certain occupations (such as in medicine) allow a person to be exposed to a greater risk of lusting because there are sufficiently rational justifying reasons.
How many women dressed like Amish get raped? That would be an interesting study.
It is on the person not to lust, but we can't take the responsibility away from women to not show their private parts disgracefully. It's not the same as going to a doctor to take care of something private. You would hope the doctor acts professionally that's their job. If my husband was a wedding photographer and the bride asked to have pics done of her getting dressed I would tell him I do not feel comfortable with that and it would be perfectly professional to say he wouldn't be able to do that. Not that he couldn't be professional, but that we are married it's not okay for him to put himself in an intimate situation with another woman. I also would never marry a man who sees naked women for his job.
I was not Sure about Emily’s talk.
🔥
1 Peter 1:13-19
13 Therefore gird up your minds, be sober, set your hope fully upon the grace that is coming to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.
14 As obedient children, do not be conformed to the passions of your former ignorance,
15 but as he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in all your conduct;
16 since it is written, " You shall be holy, for I am holy."
17 And if you invoke as Father him who judges each one impartially according to his deeds, conduct yourselves with fear throughout the time of your exile.
18 You know that you were ransomed from the futile ways inherited from your fathers, not with perishable things such as silver or gold,
19 but with the precious blood of Christ, like that of a lamb without blemish or spot.🔥
Agreed
"if you wanted to get some milk or something"
Beautiful ❤️
Bra and undies are not the same at a bikini and bottoms . You are prepared for people to see the latter . Also, what if you just want a tan?
If you are not tan byu nature, a tan is an example is why modesty is best.
Ohhh some Magdalene kinda thing. I suggest leah darrow on modesty. She gets it.
Lot of people are saying this is sexist or wear what you want! Whatever but remember that the time will come when we all have to answer God on judgment day. Don't forget that!
But you aren't God? I mean, I guess your guess is as good as mine. Personally, I don't think God is going to send a woman to Hell for wearing a bikini. Or even love her less for it. If so--wow, we need to quit preaching that God is all-loving. It seems pretty strange that I, a lowly human, could love a person wearing a bikini without lusting after them (I'm gay, btw) and God wouldn't? I don't know. Maybe quit judging people a second and try to find the love God has in store for Their creation? You're chasing people away from the gospel by making them feel unwanted or undeserving.
Well than God is sexist.
What the heck do you mean?
Very well said. I agree. There are many christian videos which will defend wearing bikini
Amen
Word
Amen, modest is the best policy.
What about girls walking the street wearing just a swimsuit?If they have one on they should have a cover up on.
It depends on the construction of the suit. A rare few are modest.
*The idea of "modesty" is an absolute joke. God created us to be fully naked with NO SHAME and it was only when we started playing our own game that we started viewing our bodies as disgraceful. 99% of clothing has nothing to do with trying to be provocative, it's just the person wearing what makes them comfortable. Clothing doesn't influence evil actions, immoral character does.*
@@starhunter9085 Christians are to behave reverently. It's a disgrace for a woman to not care how she presents herself.
Serena joy
Bikinis and underwear are not the same thing. I mean, that's like saying that male underwear and swim trunks are the same thing but it's not.
Underwear is a layer protection between your clothes and your sweat. It's also meant to protect your skin from sturdy material-made clothes.
Bikini is simply just a swimsuit/bathing suit. Bikini, one piece swimsuit and swim trunks are all meant to cover your private areas when you go swimming or tanning.
I personally wear a bikini because it's a lot more comfortable to wear. It's also a lot easier to change into and out of and it's easier to find a matching bikini than finding a matching one piece.
+Shanti McCormack Some male suits are worse then wearing underwear. If it is like long shorts it is thick and it also has a lining inside, but for christian men speedos are out and tight suits without legs.
+James Johnson I believe a man should wear bathing suits that are like long shorts and thick. I also admire a man that covers his top body with a polo shirt and keeps himself pure. this is the mark of a gentleman that has dignity , values, and honors the Lord with his body.
+Shanti McCormack Just because you wear Bikini don't it up with something does not makes sense. Westerns invented bikini because they look at woman as a lust thing and that's why they have failing relationships and 80% of their children does not have parents together. its a failing and falling society !!! Bikinis are not the thing. no true boyfriend/husband would like their partners to show of their skin to everyone.
+James Johnson how does it matter James. Did they say wear bikinis in holy bible ?
+James Johnson yes . I am a Christian
I believe I can wear a bikini and still be modest. I’m wearing the bikini, the bikini is not wearing me.
@@koolmckool7039 then that is their fault
@@chrisesparza3786 Okay, fair enough. Please ignore me. I'm very sorry for what I said. I wasn't exactly in my best mind when I made the statement.
That's like saying you can go to the store wearing your bra and underwear and still be modest. Just because it is at the pool doesn't make it modest.
Actress and entrepreneur Jessica Rey’s recent Q presentation on the evolution of the swimsuit has generated quite an interest in her beautiful line of Hepburn-inspired swimsuits. And I couldn’t be happier to see this smart, savvy businesswoman succeed. (Well, except that I’ve got my eye on the “Holly” design and it’s now sold out … but otherwise, more power to her!)
Rey’s presentation has also generated renewed interest in the hot topic of modesty, so the folks at Q asked me to share some of my thoughts on the matter in order to keep the conversation going.
It’s no secret that women today are bombarded with mixed messages about what it means to be a woman in a woman’s body.
On the one hand, we are all familiar with the dreaded walk down the grocery store checkout aisle, where magazine after magazine boasts airbrushed photos of impossibly thin celebrities and headlines promising to teach us how to “please our men” with sexier bodies, more fashionable clothes, hotter sex moves and better flirtation skills. Ours is indeed a culture that tends to assign value to a woman based on her sex appeal rather than her character, and that’s something we must work to change.
But many of us are also familiar with the other extreme. We know what it feels like to have rulers slapped against our bare legs so our Sunday school teachers can measure the length of our skirts. We know how hard it is to do a cannonball into a swimming pool when you’re wearing a giant “Jesus Saves” T-shirt over your bathing suit. We know what it’s like to be told over and over and over again by red-faced preachers that our legs, our breasts, our curves, our bodies have the bewitching power to “make our brothers stumble.” So it is our responsibility to cover them up, to dress modestly to “please our brothers” by keeping them on the path of righteousness.
I grew up in such a culture, and I remember feeling bad for the tall girls who were sent home from my Christian school because their shorts were millimeters too short. I remember the tear-stained faces of little girls turned away from swimming pools because their bathing suits had two pieces. And I remember trying desperately to cover up the shape of my breasts, which despite all my turtlenecks and layers and crossed arms insisted upon showing up early. When I caught a male classmate’s eye on them, a wave of guilt would rush over me-Oh no, he noticed me! I’ve made him stumble. To this day, I have to deliberately avoid folding my arms in front of my chest because I made such a habit of it in my youth.
What I’ve only just begun to realize is that these two extremes represent different sides of the same coin. While popular culture tends to disempower women by telling them they must dress to get men to look at them, the modesty culture tends to disempower women by telling them they must dress to keep men from looking at them. In both cases, the impetus is placed on the woman to accommodate her clothing or her body to the (varied and culturally relative) expectations of men. In both cases, it becomes the woman’s job to manage the sexual desires of men, and thus it is seen as her fault if a man ignores her on the one hand or objectifies her on the other. Often, these two cultures combine to send out a pulse of confusing messages: “Look cute … but not too cute! Be modest … but not frumpy! Make yourself attractive … but not too attractive!” Women are left feeling ashamed of their bodies as they try desperately to contort around a bunch of vague, ever-changing ideals. It’s exhausting, really, dressing for other people.
But all of this takes the notion of modesty far beyond its biblical context.
In 1 Timothy 2:9-10, the apostle Paul writes “I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God.” The Greek word translated “modesty” here is kosmios. Derived from kosmos (the universe), it signifies orderliness, self-control and appropriateness. It appears only twice in the New Testament, and interestingly, its second usage refers specifically to men (1 Timothy 3:2). In fact, nearly all of the Bible’s instructions regarding modest clothing refer not to sexuality, but rather materialism (Isaiah 3:16-23, 1 Timothy 2:9-12, 1 Peter 3:3). Writers in both the Old Testament and New Testament express grave concern when the people of God flaunt their wealth by buying expensive clothes and jewelry while many of their neighbors suffered in poverty. (Ironically, I’ve heard dozens of sermons about keeping my legs and my cleavage out of sight, but not one about ensuring my jewelry was not acquired through unjust or exploitive trade practices-which would be much more in keeping with biblical teachings on modesty.)
And so biblical modesty isn’t about managing the sexual impulses of other people; it’s about cultivating humility, propriety and deference within ourselves.
With this in mind, there are three extremes those of us who value modesty should take care to avoid:
1. We turn modesty into objectification when we hold women responsible for the thoughts and actions of men.
It is important here to make a distinction between attraction and lust. Attraction is a natural biological response to beauty; lust obsesses on that attraction until it grows into a sense of ownership, a drive to conquer and claim. When Jesus warns that “everyone who looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart,” he uses the same word found in the Ten Commandments to refer to a person who “covets” his neighbor’s property. Lust takes attraction and turns it into the coveting of a woman’s body as though it were property. And men are responsible for their own thoughts and actions when this happens; they don’t get to blame it on what a woman is wearing.
Notice Jesus doesn’t say, “everyone who looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart, so ladies, be sure to dress more modestly.” Instead he says to the men, “if your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away”! The IVP New Testament Commentary notes that at the time, “Jewish men expected married Jewish women to wear head coverings to prevent lust. Jewish writers often warned of women as dangerous because they could invite lust (as in Sirach 25:21; Ps. Sol. 16:7-8), but Jesus placed the responsibility for lust on the person doing the lusting.”
People have expressed skepticism of the Princeton study cited by Rey, pointing out that it was drawn from a small sample size, included men who already held negative or sexist views of women, and used headless images of women either fully dressed or wearing a bikini to evoke responses. But regardless of whatever synapsis involuntarily fire in a man’s brain when he sees a woman’s body, he alone is responsible for the decision to objectify a woman or treat her with respect. Placing that burden upon women is unnecessary and unfair.
2. We turn modesty into objectification when we assume there are single standards that apply to all people in all cultures.
Interestingly, the same study cited by Rey has been cited by a popular Muslim site as support for encouraging women to wear the hijab, which reveals something of how different cultures and faiths view modesty. I spent some time in India, where women in traditional saris exposed their midriffs and navels without a second thought, but would carefully avoid showing their knees. Rachel Marie Stone recently wrote an excellent piece for Christianity Today about how, in Malawi, women typically nurse in public without shame of exposing their breasts. In many cultures, a one-piece bathing suit would be considered scandalous; in others, bikinis-or even topless bathing- are the norm. What is considered modest or appropriate changes depending on culture and context. It also changes from woman to woman, depending on body type, personality, personal convictions and season in life. While we may long for a universal dress code that would make all of this simpler, we aren’t given one. Perhaps this is why Paul encouraged women to “adorn themselves with good deeds,” and why the valorous woman of Proverbs 31 is praised because “she clothes herself in strength and dignity.” At the end of the day, the most important things we project to the world are strength, dignity and good deeds; the sort of things that transcend culture, circumstance, and clothing.
The truth is, a man can choose to objectify a woman whether she’s wearing a bikini or a burqa. We don’t stop lust by covering up the female form; we stop lust by teaching men to treat women as human beings worthy of respect.
3. Finally, we turn modesty into objectification when we make women ashamed of their bodies.
It doesn’t take long for a woman to realize that no matter what she wears, the curves of her body remain visible and will occasionally attract the notice of men. If this reality is met only with shame, if the female form is treated as inherently seductive and problematic, then women will inevitably feel ashamed of their bodies.
But our bodies are not something to be overcome; they are not dirty or shameful or inherently tempting. They are a beautiful part of what it means to be created in the image of God. These are the bodies that allow us to be the hands and feet of Jesus in the world, the bodies that feel sun on our skin and sand between our toes, the bodies that nurse babies and cry with friends, the bodies that emerge from the waters of baptism and feast on the bread of communion. They are beautiful, and they are good.
So my advice for women looking for bathing suits this season is this: Don’t dress for men; dress for yourself. It’s not your responsibility to please men with either your sex appeal or your modesty; each man is different, so it would be a fool’s errand anyway. Instead, prioritize strength, dignity and good deeds, and then dress accordingly.
Find something that makes you comfortable. Find something that is ethically made. Find something that gives you the freedom to run with abandon into those incoming waves-hot sand tickling your feet, warm sun tingling your skin-and revel in this body and this world God gave you to enjoy.
And if it’s one of Rey’s designs, go for it. Just please leave a “Holly” for me!
Andrea Roy I stopped reading as soon as I saw you mentioned Jessica Rey. It is unfortunate that Jessica has lied about the findings of that study just to make a profit.
+Puttincomputers - Defensive Driver from Lynchburg I almost did, but this is a really great comment. Don't skip over it!
+Jaquelynn Gering actually it's directly from an article about modesty I saw online which perfectly captured the subject
+Puttincomputers - Defensive Driver from Lynchburg I would read the article because it really highlights both sides
Andrea Roy Andrea, I used to be a conservative Mennonite. I have no desire to read heresy propagated by someone looking to make a dollar.
'oh, but it's a swim suit' give me a break, might as well be naked
We can somewhat agree on this topic. I think some of these bikini's are no more than a string. I had 2 sons but if I had a daughter no way would I let her wear what I see these models wearing these days.
She right
It is the girl's choice if she wants to wear a bikini or not. Some girls like the attention, some girls can give two craps. The only reason I don't wear bikinis is because they can never hold my breasts while I am swimming, and the other ones are always cheaper
Fernanda Cabrera One-pieces are cheaper? I get the idea you actually haven't price checked much. The two-piece suits I own were all $5-20. most around $10 range. I've never found a decent one-piece for less than $20.
Jaquelynn Gering I haven't shopped for 2 pieces since I was ten, so yeah. Also different brands can cost more or less, maybe I am looking at different brands than you because I find pretty decent 1 piece swim suits around ten dollars ish. Then the price changes if you buy them after summer, in the fall, when they are just trying to get rid of them bc no one will be using them for the Fall season.
Ok, well, I shop online, Costco, Target, Kohls, etc, both on and off season, and always always found two-piece suits to be cheaper, unless you are comparing name-brand two-piece to off-brand one-piece, the one-piece is almost always more expensive.
Jaquelynn Gering Well I still personally don't like to wear them for other reasons, but like I said before it should ALWAYS be the woman's choice if she wants to wear a one piece or a two piece.
Absolutely. I always wore a one-piece growing up, until I was a teenager and got tall, gangly, and long-waisted, which made it impossible to find one that fit.
People need to understand the difference between Biblical commands and personal convictions about how exactly those commands should be followed. Making blanket statement about how something not addressed in the Bible is wrong or sinful is legalism, and ultimately damaging to the unity of the church and Christ's message.
A woman should be able to wear a bikini without people assuming she's trying to cause men to "stumble" and a women should be able to wear a one-piece without anyone assuming she's silently judging them or looking down on them with a "holier-than-thou" attitude.
Whether anyone believes it or not me and all the women I've ever gone swimsuit shopping with have always had the same basic priorites:
#1 fit
#2 fit
#3 fit
#4 fit
#5 color and pattern
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#652 any other considerations.
Contrary to what some may think, women aren't really buying swimsuits going "let's pick out something that will really make guys stare!"
Modest dress is much more than not wearing bikinis.
The only issue that could be found with the presenter's clothing (of what can be seen) is that it is somewhat tight in the bodice. I have an old picture of some of my relatives from the early 20th century. In it, the wife is wearing a very loose fitting dress in the bodice. There is obviously something "happening" in the area, but one can't distinguish any clearly recognizable shape. The make seems to be similar to what a tuxedo shirt might be for a man today. It is stiff and doesn't cling to the body.
Most of the below standard are taken from the Marylike modesty standard.
“A dress cannot be called decent which is cut deeper than two fingers’ breadth under the pit of the throat; which does not cover the arms at least to the elbows; and scarcely reaches a bit beyond the knees. Furthermore, dresses of transparent material are improper.” (Cardinal-Vicar of Pope Pius XI, Cardinal Pompili, on 24 September 1928)
Modest dresses have sleeves extending at least to the elbows, and skirts reaching below the knees.
Modest dresses require full coverage for the bodice, chest, shoulders and back, except for a cut-out about the neck not exceeding two inches below the neckline in front and in back, and a corresponding two inches on the shoulders.
Modest dresses do not admit, as modest coverage, transparent fabric - laces, nets, organdy, nylon etc - unless sufficient backing is added.
Modest dresses avoid the improper use of flesh colored fabrics.
Modest dresses conceal rather than reveal the figure of the wearer; they do not unduly emphasize parts of the body. This prohibits dresses that are tight in the bodice area.
Modest dresses provide full coverage according to the standards from the Vatican after removing any outergarments such as a cape or jacket and after being seated.
These rules are a minimum and admit of no exception even for clothes for special purposes (e.g. athletics, playing, swimming) or places (e.g. beach).
It is unfortunate that it must be noted that pants or shorts are definitely immodest.
modesty is beautiful
A bikini is the same as a bra and panties? Let's try this comparison, but change the gender. Make a video addressing men. Ask them, would they feel comfortable hanging out in front of their mom's friends wearing nothing but their boxers? No?
Well then, clearly, guys should not be wearing swim shorts!!
I wish I could like this a million times :) thank you!!
Love this comment
You realize a lot of guys would say yes?
uhh for guys it wont be that much of a problem. next feminist plz
THAT is exactly what get's me about this issue! .. . is that these religious tools always talk as though THIS applies ONLY TO WOMEN, .. . what about MEN who go shirtless or wear trunks or speedos?
What about female professional surfers? They wear bikinis
Couldn't have said better myself! Thanks for being such a great role model Jackie!
Actually, the popular view that bikinis are sexy is actually misogynistic because why should a girl need to use her body to attract men? If you paid any attention to Jackie's work, you would know that she does her best to empower girls and women. She is teaching that we girls do not need to use our body to attract men. Did you even watch the video? In what way did she say it was their fault for guys' views? She teaches girls that their body is something to be cherished. She is a great role model because she follows her faith to the best of her ability and challenges us to do the same.
I loved the video until the part where you mentioned God... why do you involve him? I invite you to think and decide for yourself. If you are actually shure he exists or not completely shure.
Um...this is a Christian vid. It's all about God.
I just wanna swim
Plus the example of wearing a bra and underwear in front of your dad with his friends makes no sense. If you're in the beach, where it's hot and you want to lay in the sand or get in the beach, you aren't going to be fully clothed. Well I don't know how you get into the beach, but I prefer wearing bathing suits, of ANY kind
i agree completely 10000000000000% as a guy who has been single all my life (I'm 30) I hated growing up around women who showed their skin so much, even though i understand now they didn't know what they were doing (yes they knew in a sense that they wanted 1 guy or so to notice) but they didn't realize the rest of the men they were teasing and i would say tormenting also. women should seriously think about what they're wearing, why they're wearing it and who else is watching them.
this video makes me want to take my top off.
As a Christian, it perturbs me that the church has so accepted the misuse of the word modesty. Modesty is NOT about women wearing certain articles of clothing. It's about our behavior, our habits and by our, I mean EVERY Christian. Men have just the same amount of opportunity to practice immodesty, and it has little to do with clothing. It's our focus. To be immodest is to focus on ourselves and to draw attention to ourselves.
Do we brag, talk bad about ourselves to fish for complements, speak coarsely, be self-conscious, treat others less than how Christ would, etc? That's immodesty. Sure, dressing to get attention grows from that same poisoned root -- but just think for a second how many of us "modest" girls wear lots of jewelry, spend a half-hour on our makeup, spend money we don't have on nice shoes, or wear a figure-clinging top that's somehow magically a-okay because we're wearing a camisole under it that covers our breasts "just" enough? That's NOT cutting it; we're just as immodest as the bikini-girl with bad motives.
God intends for us to be modest like Christ, which means we have to empty ourselves to look like Him. (Jesus was still modest and loving while He was naked on a cross.) To be modest is that when others look at us and our life, they see our LORD; we should be so unfocused on ourselves and our presentation that they hardly notice us and instead they see HIM.
Modesty has much less to do with clothes than we think.
+MustardFlower Thank you so much for saying this. The oft-misquoted verse about modesty, 1 Timothy 2:9, says nothing whatsoever about women covering themselves up a certain amount. It's saying we shouldn't flaunt elaborate hairstyles and expensive clothing and jewelry.
MustardFlower Modesty can have many meanings but clearly she is only talking about the topic of women's bathers and not every single modesty topic in the world, its just your own assumption on her video of what you thought it meant.
You clearly missed the point of mustard flower's comment, much as the woman in the video misunderstands the very concept of modesty.
Modesty is NOT about what kind of swimsuit you wear!
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a very basic rule of modesty in dressing is to be properly clothed in a way that pleases God. In this vid the topic is modesty in dressing.
Believe it or not, there are modest bikinis out there. I think it is perfectly acceptable to wear a bikini that is modest and does not draw attention to female body parts. I think if a girl is comfortable wearing it around her parents and other relatives, it's modest. If a girl can move around in it without feeling uncomfortable, it's modest. It is possible
You got may subscription sister. Ohhh sorry..
This channel is sided with catholicism, take it back.
But you got my like, about modesty..
what is wrong with Catholicism?
@@oh_say_it_ditto mariology, idolatry, paid church serve, pedophile priest tolerated by vatican, corruption in money & power.
Unbiblical teachings, like purgatory & indulgence, praying to dead, rosary, and others.
Fruit of the Holy Spirit
If a bikini is like a bra and underwear then aren't swim trucks like boxers? Shouldn't men wear a shirt? Your example is flawed. Of course it'd be weird for the girl to come downstairs in her bra and under it'd be weird for her to come downstairs in a bikini or a one piece bc they are not at a beach or a pool. Now if the girl was with her dad and his friends at a pool or beach then it would be completely ok to wear a bikini bc it's the situation for one. You wouldn't wear a bikini to church right? Well you would wear your church clothes to the beach. If women should have to dress more modestly for men. Men for have to be more modest for women. Here's an idea lets not dress for men let's dress for ourself and God. I think if your mind set should change if your mind set it well I wanna wear a bikini to attracted guys then you shouldn't wear the bikini. You should wear a bikini bc you want to and it makes you feel good. I think it's a heart issue on both sides really. Girls should change there reasoning for wearing what they wear and guys need to get lust our of there heart bc Guys can still lust after you in a one piece if lust is in their heart! So instead of says let's coverup so men don't lust we should be saying let's dress for ourself and the situation and men deal with the sin of lust in your heart.
Oh and also one more thing I forgot men should be taught to respect all women regardless of what they are wearing. They should look at them like Jesus looks at them.
Stasha Addison But the thing is, that they NEVER will. No man can look at women the way Jesus does. Not on this life, at least. Yes, we should strive to be better each day, but we will never get to that level of purity like Christ in this lifetime.
I believe men should wear shirts to the beach too. Everyone should cover up, not just women. Modesty is about the heart, and about pleasing the Lord. The Bible says we should do everything to the glory of God. How can wearing a bikini, showing cleavage and butt cracks, be giving Christ glory?
I used to think the way you do too, but trust me, read the Bible and you will change! :) God bless.
1. I suppose it is inappropiate as well for a male to go about the beach without a shirt on, but that amount of immodesty does not compare to a woman's immodesty when wearing a bikini. It was wayyyy more sexually tempting for a guy to see a woman's cleavage than for a girl to see a male's abs or plain jelly-belly. God made boobs for pleasure between a husband and a wife, and that is why the male's brain is uncontrollably lustful over a woman's boobs or cleavage. They cannot help it, it's not society telling them that, it's how they're brain functions and they cannot stop that. That's why we should cover ourselves up, because we are called to love one another and NOT to cause another to stumble, Jesus himself even speaks of this. 2. If you are concluding to just wearing whatever for yourself and God, that is a huge problem as well. If you wear whatever you want for yourself, knowing this will cause someone to stumble (in some cases, not even men, women who undergo homosexuality problems or any young girl for that matter) then this is completely selfishness. You are doing what makes you feel good, and causing another to have sinful thoughts without caring. And God does not want selfishness in your heart, nor does he want a young man to stumble or a girl facing problems with former homosexuality etc etc. So in this case, God would not even allow this. I hope you see this, and i really do care for you and your viewpoint on this, especially because it is summer. Thanks and that's all, God bless. xoxo
Actually, I didn't men wouldn't respect women. I said that they won't be perfect. They won't always respect women. They will sometimes, but not all the time. Only God can do that. You are a woman and you don't know what it is like for a man to see women dressed immodestly. And even if you don't care about men, you should still dress modestly. There are so many benefits from it apart from spiritual ones. Like respect from other women. If you dress like a hoochie, you are going to be treated as one. Look, I REALLY don't want to argue with you. I hate that to be honest. Let's agree to disagree. I have tried explaining myself and I have noticed others doing the same but you don't seem to listen.
Not really. Modesty is important for a number of reasons. Men are lustful already, why add to the fire by dressing provocatively? It's like saying "don't disrespect me even though I disrespect myself for not covering up my privates." It doesn't make sense to me at all. That's why I figured you weren't listening, because you don't seem to understand what it is that I'm trying to say.
The fake blonde hair is immodest.
why? and why do you have donald trump with what i think is a bible as your pfp?
Completely agree!! As a man, it's difficult for me not getting visually attracted (not in the most positive way) to girls wearing clothes that allows us to see parts of their body that aren't necessary to show.. of course I try as hard as possible look them to their eyes. That's why I love modesty! Because wearing modestly actually show what is needed to be shown, integrity and self-respect! ❤️👌🏼
Yes! Christians are to behave reverently. It's a disgrace for a woman to not care how she presents herself.