My basic knowledge as an aircraft mechanic tells me that by "electrical noise" they mean electrical interference. Some times electrical wiring can screw with radio waves if not properly insulated or routed.
To my knowledge, EMI, aka as electromagnetic interference, is an disturbance or altercation within the electrical system that causes a part or parts within the electrical system from performing effectively. And ohms is a typical measurement for resistance as well. So if you either have some sort of electromagnetic interference within the system or an insanely large amount of resistance leading to those spark plugs, your car simply just won't run right or won't run at all. Resistance won't be as big of a problem as some sort of electromagnetic interference will, but still might have an affect on performance.
All true. As I recall, EMI can actually add resistance (like a pin hole or small crack in plumbing; you'll still get water, but will be at a lower pressure). Generally speaking, its not a common problem, due to all of shielding within stock modern electrical systems. However, your car is one big rolling antenna, and if anything has been done to your electrical system at all and things weren't wrapped up correct, in theory you could register some EMI... Then again, those spark plug wires are so short, you'd probably have to be running a corded drill right next to your engine for it to make a difference.
Monday206am Yeah I think that sounds about right when you mention EMI might add some sort of resistance in the electrical connection. Although not a common problem, like you said, every car is different and some might be more prone to having an issue with electrical stuff more than others.
EMI is pretty important for longer wire runs, less so for the short camaro runs. If you have too much EMI, power signal gets garbled which reduces potential power and/or creates instable performance. Most plug wires have more than enough EMI. I would recommend silicon on the plug ends though. Helps prevent water seepage into the wires from your hood or road.
Easiest way to tell if the wire is good is to just take a multimeter and check the ohms of the wires. CSP has a good video on comparision msd vs stock.
So your key fob battery may be dying. Mine was being silly unlocking from the touch pad on the handle and then it would not want to start. 3 days later it told me the battery in my fob needed to be replaced.
I had the MSD super conductors on my L 86. I was doing a compression test and all the spark plug wires were disconnected, but they were arcing big time through side of the wires. All parts of the wire. I don’t know what’s up with that silicone wires but it does not insulate at all. I went back to Stock.
Just get a 4 size cable from old jumper cable and replace the wires with that guarantee 0 resistance and +15% power, disclaimer: power gain based on different factors not all electrons created equal.
The problem is that the people who make MSD wires also make Taylor and a lot of other in-house wires for places like Jeg's and Summit. Nothing wrong with the wires, just can't justify the price.
Back when I used to listen to AM radio I could hear interference from the plug wires I'm not mentioning brand name because it is what it is there is certain brands that are made with a lower quality control that is why there is radio interference
hello, i just installed them on my v8 engine and the grey boots are straight and are touching the headers, will that be a problem? also, can you bend the straight boots to be in angle?
My car makes decent power and under the hood he has a 6.2 whipple super charger with long tube headers I bet he’s making 700+ hp 😃 I guess my 550HP 2013 Tahoe still needs more mods lol nice set up brotha on your camaro
I had problems with MSD wires on my 2016 Camaro SS. Staying with stock on my new Camaro. CSP Andrew did a test and his test proved stock where better in electrical tests.
MSD seems to be hit or miss nowadays. There are quite a few videos and forum posts about various issues. I had one of their cap/rotor/external coil conversion kits on another platform and it was complete junk, also had one of their Pro Billet distributor/coil kits and that was awesome.
Anyone know why my #7 spark plug wire would be smoking it was burning up the outside of the boot after running for like a minute then I swapped another plug on and it’s doing the same thing and it’s far from the headers
I heard back from the GM help line for my 1500 , 4x4 , 2018 , #1 the girl said she didn't know what an oil filter looked like #2 she said find a different dealer to TRY to fix my truck ( Vs Not try & just say " it works for us see ya " ) problem .. after rain , my floor shifter ( in 2x4 ) shifts itself into 4x4 .. over & over .. stick is in 2x4 spot .. Part of the reason I say this is because , your job today would ALSO call for what I asked ( if it would fix my truck & not void warranty ) >> dielectric grease put into the connector then plugged in ?? Point is to keep water out . In your case keep from shorting & sticking to the spark plug .. did you put DI Grease on your wires . Still looking for an answer .. PS the lady on the help line said by Policy she could not do or say anything till a dealer said they saw that , in fact , the truck had a problem . At this point they claim it was tow'd in And they Paid for the tow .. but that there is Nothing wrong with the truck ?? WTF , I am looking to trade for a Subaru ?? An Outback ?? That works !!! I think this is what is going on >> ua-cam.com/video/Yv-NdL_X0T4/v-deo.html
I have these sitting around I was gonna wait to install them until I do the cam and heads. But fuck it you inspire me to put mine on also.. I do wanna ask could a hi ram intake manifold for under that hood you think?
Lol electrical noise isn’t audible sound. It’s a disturbance in an electrical signal. Less noise you have the more consistent the signal is. “ can you hear your wires?” 🤣😂
GAIN AN ADDITIONAL 5-15 HP GOING FROM MSD TO GRANATELLI. We would be happy to send you a set. If you want to test them on the dyno. Granatelli Motorsports wires are ZERO OHM WIRES. G's Footage did the test on his N/A Camaro and gained 5 HP over MSD. Your supercharged you WILL SEE MORE POWER.
Wait what happened? I just seen I video of you explaining why you were going with a procharger style supercharger. Then the next video that's pops up I see traditional style. Change of hart? Sorry, I'm not a subscriber. Haven't been following. I was pretty convinced for your explanation of going with the ProCharger though.
I watched this video recently and they tested the resistance of the stock vs. MSD and stock was better: ua-cam.com/video/GgNu2FQqO5E/v-deo.html I definitely want to get those heat sleeves. Thanks for testing these though, look forward to the follow up
That was strange because I saw another video showing a 2000 ohm drop. I tested the ones that came off my Stingray and it showed just over 2000 ohms drop on the 2 wires I tested. I also saw another video where they tested the stock wires and it showed 1.9 ohms. I’m actually wondering if they read the ohm meter wrong because it will show a small “k” on the side to signify it is measuring in kiloohms which are 1000 ohms. So the video I saw of 1.9 ohms would make sense if it were 1.9 kiloohms or 1900 ohms. My meter shows 2.004k to signify it is 2004 ohm resistance for example.
Msd is now Chinese sorry it’s garbage. Those of us with multiple projects over the years have seen the changes to their products. They have earned the name “msd might soon die” with many people. For ignition boxes and coils crane has surpassed them and wires for any lt or ls granetelli is the obvious choice as cars have picked up hp using them. I’d say firecore is a close second. I’m not risking a car this expensive to a cheesy cheap plug wire and that’s what msd has now become. Tell you this too with the msd on 16 psi and a .030 gap I was getting blow out randomly. Now with the granetelli on nearly 18 psi I am at .034 with no issues. So more getting from my coil to the plug and that’s an obvious example of a better product.
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I love that you do what YOU want to your car and not guided by what others say!!!
Hey Matt, I’ve always used MSD wires with all my Camaro’s and not once did I have an issue. Great video brother and love your channel 👍🏻💯
My basic knowledge as an aircraft mechanic tells me that by "electrical noise" they mean electrical interference. Some times electrical wiring can screw with radio waves if not properly insulated or routed.
To my knowledge, EMI, aka as electromagnetic interference, is an disturbance or altercation within the electrical system that causes a part or parts within the electrical system from performing effectively. And ohms is a typical measurement for resistance as well. So if you either have some sort of electromagnetic interference within the system or an insanely large amount of resistance leading to those spark plugs, your car simply just won't run right or won't run at all. Resistance won't be as big of a problem as some sort of electromagnetic interference will, but still might have an affect on performance.
All true. As I recall, EMI can actually add resistance (like a pin hole or small crack in plumbing; you'll still get water, but will be at a lower pressure). Generally speaking, its not a common problem, due to all of shielding within stock modern electrical systems. However, your car is one big rolling antenna, and if anything has been done to your electrical system at all and things weren't wrapped up correct, in theory you could register some EMI...
Then again, those spark plug wires are so short, you'd probably have to be running a corded drill right next to your engine for it to make a difference.
Monday206am Yeah I think that sounds about right when you mention EMI might add some sort of resistance in the electrical connection. Although not a common problem, like you said, every car is different and some might be more prone to having an issue with electrical stuff more than others.
EMI is pretty important for longer wire runs, less so for the short camaro runs. If you have too much EMI, power signal gets garbled which reduces potential power and/or creates instable performance. Most plug wires have more than enough EMI.
I would recommend silicon on the plug ends though. Helps prevent water seepage into the wires from your hood or road.
In a dunk test from stock to msd does help purity during combustion and adds a tear drop of horses
Can’t stop starring at that Whipple😍😍😍😍
Easiest way to tell if the wire is good is to just take a multimeter and check the ohms of the wires. CSP has a good video on comparision msd vs stock.
i guess it is kinda randomly asking but do anyone know a good website to stream newly released series online ?
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Is it worth to upgrade on stock engine 😂I just like red wires
Granatelli all the way, their wires are amazing.
Thank you
So your key fob battery may be dying. Mine was being silly unlocking from the touch pad on the handle and then it would not want to start. 3 days later it told me the battery in my fob needed to be replaced.
Any help is appreciated. I have long tube headers, flex fuel and intake and want to upgrade the spark plugs and wires but dont know which route to go.
05 silverodo MSD for a couple years now no problems
What spark plug exactly do u have I got new ones and it’s misfiring, I have headers
Solid copper wire would be your best choice, assuming you're not listening to the radio when driving.
I had the MSD super conductors on my L 86. I was doing a compression test and all the spark plug wires were disconnected, but they were arcing big time through side of the wires. All parts of the wire. I don’t know what’s up with that silicone wires but it does not insulate at all. I went back to Stock.
Just get a 4 size cable from old jumper cable and replace the wires with that guarantee 0 resistance and +15% power, disclaimer: power gain based on different factors not all electrons created equal.
10 inch or 12 inch wire ?
The problem is that the people who make MSD wires also make Taylor and a lot of other in-house wires for places like Jeg's and Summit. Nothing wrong with the wires, just can't justify the price.
Did you use the old aluminum shield for the new MSD plugs? Or is it a direct fit the way they are?
i have that same question
Me too…. I guess he’s shy.
Back when I used to listen to AM radio I could hear interference from the plug wires I'm not mentioning brand name because it is what it is there is certain brands that are made with a lower quality control that is why there is radio interference
hello, i just installed them on my v8 engine and the grey boots are straight and are touching the headers, will that be a problem? also, can you bend the straight boots to be in angle?
Arguing over spark plug wires is a bit like arguing over the primers on a bullets 🤣
I am running msd on my supercharged 14 Silverado, and most other projects I have
Cough still slow cough
@@fluffy3401 cool story. What do you drive than?
Probably a Prius
@@dirtydave82 i drive a
454ss
C7 corvette and im working on a
supercharged lightning
My car makes decent power and under the hood he has a 6.2 whipple super charger with long tube headers I bet he’s making 700+ hp 😃 I guess my 550HP 2013 Tahoe still needs more mods lol nice set up brotha on your camaro
What plugs do you recommend
What light are you using?
the ignition systems in these cars want to see the resistance to know its working correctly. ask around about it. that is what iv been told
Source : trust me bro
I have a 5th gen SS looking for recommendations for after market plugs and wires. What would you suggest? Thank you
Mine caused a misfire because my headers burned through the wire 😭 made my engine sound horrible hope that the only problem 😅
I had problems with MSD wires on my 2016 Camaro SS. Staying with stock on my new Camaro. CSP Andrew did a test and his test proved stock where better in electrical tests.
Why is Whipple so loud? Did something happen?
Sounds the same tbh.
Will these wires be good for 2014 Silverado 5.3? And any recommended spark plugs?.
EMI: Electromagnetic interference. The reason the early Mustangs were so slow :) all that whine in the radio!
MSD seems to be hit or miss nowadays. There are quite a few videos and forum posts about various issues. I had one of their cap/rotor/external coil conversion kits on another platform and it was complete junk, also had one of their Pro Billet distributor/coil kits and that was awesome.
Updates on the wires? Zero noticable differences right? Also, is that supercharger supposed to sound like that?
Yes and yes
I use gm oem wires. Not related to this video but how high is the cowl on your new carbon fiber hood.
2.5” I think
Anyone know why my #7 spark plug wire would be smoking it was burning up the outside of the boot after running for like a minute then I swapped another plug on and it’s doing the same thing and it’s far from the headers
How long will the msd’s last?
I just bought these for my truck. What's ur opinion after having for several months?
I took them off.
@@Lethalgarage how come?
Will these fit on any ls engine, I got a ls4 I ordered msd coils but I'm now thinking of these plug wires they should fit right?
These are LT wires, but their LS wires fit all LS motors.
I got msd wires on my mustang
EMI Electro magnetic interference. and noise = interference
I think they mean noise in your radio EMI
How was or how did you end up pulling the stock heat shields out? My hands are too big.
On the passenger side leaving the reservoir there.
Just 2 Allen head bolts. We didn’t remove mine. Would have been easier to pull the radiator overflow back a bit
Hey lethal what's that orange thing with the numbers on it? Lmk asap
It’s a stick with wire numbers you can add to know which is 1-8
@@Lethalgarage shortly after asking I put it together lol I'm a idiot sometimes
Spark it up!! 🔥
I heard back from the GM help line for my 1500 , 4x4 , 2018 , #1 the girl said she didn't know what an oil filter looked like #2 she said find a different dealer to TRY to fix my truck ( Vs Not try & just say " it works for us see ya " ) problem .. after rain , my floor shifter ( in 2x4 ) shifts itself into 4x4 .. over & over .. stick is in 2x4 spot .. Part of the reason I say this is because , your job today would ALSO call for what I asked ( if it would fix my truck & not void warranty ) >> dielectric grease put into the connector then plugged in ?? Point is to keep water out . In your case keep from shorting & sticking to the spark plug .. did you put DI Grease on your wires . Still looking for an answer .. PS the lady on the help line said by Policy she could not do or say anything till a dealer said they saw that , in fact , the truck had a problem . At this point they claim it was tow'd in And they Paid for the tow .. but that there is Nothing wrong with the truck ?? WTF , I am looking to trade for a Subaru ?? An Outback ?? That works !!! I think this is what is going on >> ua-cam.com/video/Yv-NdL_X0T4/v-deo.html
What wheels were you running in your outro at the end of the video? Probably a stupid question
Flow form FF04s
Hey, Lethal do you know of any intakes that can be shipped to California?
Only the GM one.
Hey Matt, you use stock heat shield on the MSD wires?
I used no shield
Heat shields on your sparkplugs, burn out your sparkplugs faster because they retain the heat. Not recommended bro.
I have these sitting around I was gonna wait to install them until I do the cam and heads. But fuck it you inspire me to put mine on also.. I do wanna ask could a hi ram intake manifold for under that hood you think?
Lol electrical noise isn’t audible sound. It’s a disturbance in an electrical signal. Less noise you have the more consistent the signal is. “ can you hear your wires?” 🤣😂
Hey Matt, I'm planning on getting these for my 16 2ss but am curious will these have an affect on the exhaust popping? Will it pop more or less? thx
I’d checkout the Taylor ones JDP offers. These will not change the pops.
Electrical noises u wont hear they interfere with the computer
GAIN AN ADDITIONAL 5-15 HP GOING FROM MSD TO GRANATELLI.
We would be happy to send you a set. If you want to test them on the dyno.
Granatelli Motorsports wires are ZERO OHM WIRES. G's Footage did the test on his N/A Camaro and gained 5 HP over MSD. Your supercharged you WILL SEE MORE POWER.
You can send them to me! I'm nearly ready to start my build and would gladly take you up on the coils/wires offer...
Wait what happened? I just seen I video of you explaining why you were going with a procharger style supercharger. Then the next video that's pops up I see traditional style. Change of hart? Sorry, I'm not a subscriber. Haven't been following. I was pretty convinced for your explanation of going with the ProCharger though.
Awesome man your car is so bad great job
You should measure the resistance Factory wires. Then measure the resistance of the MSD wires that should tell you something
A few videos out there doing that already
@@Lethalgarage what brand of spark plugs are you using on that beast? Gorgeous car !
Resistance is futile
#Hux #StarWars
I watched this video recently and they tested the resistance of the stock vs. MSD and stock was better: ua-cam.com/video/GgNu2FQqO5E/v-deo.html I definitely want to get those heat sleeves. Thanks for testing these though, look forward to the follow up
That was strange because I saw another video showing a 2000 ohm drop. I tested the ones that came off my Stingray and it showed just over 2000 ohms drop on the 2 wires I tested. I also saw another video where they tested the stock wires and it showed 1.9 ohms. I’m actually wondering if they read the ohm meter wrong because it will show a small “k” on the side to signify it is measuring in kiloohms which are 1000 ohms. So the video I saw of 1.9 ohms would make sense if it were 1.9 kiloohms or 1900 ohms. My meter shows 2.004k to signify it is 2004 ohm resistance for example.
Msd!
Your key fob battery is dead.
Guarantee hp title.... w out a dyno or time slips or anything but reading from the msd box. Come on lethal.
Did you miss the? At the end of the statement
Msd is now Chinese sorry it’s garbage. Those of us with multiple projects over the years have seen the changes to their products. They have earned the name “msd might soon die” with many people. For ignition boxes and coils crane has surpassed them and wires for any lt or ls granetelli is the obvious choice as cars have picked up hp using them. I’d say firecore is a close second. I’m not risking a car this expensive to a cheesy cheap plug wire and that’s what msd has now become. Tell you this too with the msd on 16 psi and a .030 gap I was getting blow out randomly. Now with the granetelli on nearly 18 psi I am at .034 with no issues. So more getting from my coil to the plug and that’s an obvious example of a better product.
My girlfriend has the same car 😅
I got those wires and they’re causing me mis fires 🥲